Polyamory, Marriage, and Dating Women: How One Couple Makes Non-Monogamy Work

0:07 Alright y'all, before we dive in, a quick heads up. This show is raw, real, and definitely not rated pg. We're talking about adult themes, sexual content, and the kind of stuff you probably don't want blasting through your speakers at work or around your kits. So grab some headphones, pour your drink of choice and get comfy. Oh, and just so we're clear, we are not licensed therapists, counselors, or sex. Couches. Sex coaches. Sex coaches, not sex couches or just a couple of people sharing our lives, experiences and sexy adventures. An ethical non-monogamy. So with that, pull up a chair and enjoy the show.

0:50 Hello and welcome to another episode of Beyond Monogamy. I'm Adam. And I'm Pris. And today we're talking with someone who lives a relationship dynamic that I think a lot of people are curious about because it's a little different than what most people are used to seeing. Yeah. But honestly not that different from the kinds of relationships that we talk about on this show all the time. Exactly. Dominique from the TikTok account life with Dominique has been really open about her relationship dynamic. She's married to her husband and she also has a long-term girlfriend who's joining us here today. Leah and she shares a lot about what all of that looks like in real life, which I actually love because people see things like that online and immediately have.

1:32 About a thousand questions. Yeah. Yeah. People are always like, okay, but wait, how does this actually work? Mm-hmm. Who lives here? How does jealousy work? Do people get along? How do you balance relationships? Who gets the weekends? Exactly, exactly. Yes. The logistics alone are fascinating. So thank, yeah. So today we're gonna talk about how Dominique discovered non-monogamy, how her relationship dynamic works, what people misunderstand about poly relationships and what it's like sharing all of that publicly on social media. And honestly, I am really excited about this conversation because there are so many different ways people practice non-monogamy, and it's always interesting hearing about how different couples make it work.

2:16 Yeah. But before we jump in, if you're enjoying the show and these conversations, make sure you are following Beyond Monogamy with Adam and PRIs on whatever platform you're listening to on right now. And if you want even more beyond monogamy content, video clips, blogs, merch, all of our episodes and our anonymous Beyond Monogamy, confessional, or you can leave us questions and stories, you can find all of that on our website@www.beyondmonogamy.com. That's right. And with that, Dominique, Leah, thank you so much and welcome to Beyond Monogamy. Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, ladies. How are you guys? Good. Very good. Good. I'm so happy to have you on here, Leah.

2:56 I followed you only because my husband said she's spicy like you, you need to follow this one. And I said, great. And I'll pop in your lives most times 'cause I'm, I'm working. So I'll get on there and I'll just, I'll listen to your things because. You say a lot of things that really hit home for me. Yeah. Well, and like we were saying before we, uh, started the show, uh, and what our, a lot of our listeners already know is that, you know, we had our, our five year stint, uh, in Poly. Yes. And it did not go well. It did not go well. We'll get into that, but yeah. And, and, and we'll, we'll get into that. But, for the most part, uh, you know, she just wasn't, uh, really into it. Yeah. And so a lot of what you say definitely reframes how people think about this sort of thing.

3:42 So I wanna start from the very beginning. And Leah, you feel free to jump in as anytime you guys talk, as you would. Okay. But what I really wanna know is, Dominique, how did you, how did you even get to non-monogamy? Like what brought you here? Honestly, I didn't even know or think that I'd be here. Yeah, I say it all the time, like, I never thought you couldn't pay me to think that I'd be here. But eight years ago I had set my husband down and I told him, Hey, I have a desire and an attraction to be with other women. Um, I wanna go ahead and act on that. I've been suppressing this for a long time in my life. Do you wanna be here? Do you wanna be involved? I want you here, but I get you didn't sign up for it.

4:24 Literally. I was like, I couldn't breathe when I sat down with this man. I was so nervous. I was like, okay, cool. Uh, if he leaves and I'm gonna just give him the ability to have the option to know me authentically, love me authentically, or say, Hey, this is not for me. Yeah, that was eight years ago. He looked at me, he said, I already knew. I already knew. Really? So why'd you know that? What? I thought I was hiding it. Well, he was like, no, your friends would hit on you and you just seem so intrigued. Like you seem like you were interested. And I'm like, what? I thought I was hiding it. Well, we all think that, right? I was so confused by like how he knew, but yeah, he apparently knew it. And then we kind of talked about different boundaries, like what we wanted to see.

5:09 Oh, I don't wanna, I'm not comfortable seeing that. I'm not comfortable knowing details. We were 24 at that time, so we were young. It was all about you. Kind of like how you guys said, like the sexual nature of it. Right? Like we wasn't thinking about anything like serious. But in the midst of that and kind of just putting myself out there and talking to friends, I ended up getting pregnant and I. Yeah. Damn. How does this happen? That changes shit. Doing, doing grown folks things. You, you gotta, you know. Yeah. It happens. It happens. Believe me. Yeah. That put things to a, a, a nice little halt. I stayed home.

5:49 I raised our baby. We bought a house, we opened a business. We did so many, like, just regular things, but I brought it back up at 28. I said, Hey, bringing this back to the forefront here. Now that we kind got things settled let's talk about this again. What do you wanna do? Like, do you wanna leave? Do you wanna be here? Kind of giving you a out again? He's like, no, but you know what? I think this journey is for you. I feel like it's for you to be with a woman outside of me and know what that's like, and it has nothing to do with me. I completely support you on your journey. Go ahead. I said, well, how do you feel about me talking publicly about it? He's like, yeah, fine. I don't care what people think. I said, okay. So I started talking about it. I got online, I wanted to tell my story.

6:31 I'm very dramatic. I'm very big energy. So if I'm gonna tell my story, I'm gonna tell it myself and I want to tell it with all the flares. Like, so yes, that's what I did. And then she came along sliding in my dms at 11:00 PM at night. Oh, that's the only way to do it. That's the only way to do that. Is the only way to do it. I wanna care to know exactly what type of time I was on. Mm. Yeah. And I thought she just wanted to be a friend. I'm like, oh, we're talking about astrology, we're talking about family. And I'm like, just, flowing back and forth in conversation. She was like, by the way, I'm not trying to be your friend. I, oh yes, dude. That's smart.

7:12 That was smart right there. I was ready to buy some tea and I didn't want her to think I'm just a customer and I'm just trying to be a friendly customer. No ma'am. No, I'm trying to play, I was, there was more intentions there. Now, did Leah, did you know already that she was in like looking. Were you a follower of that? Like, of her content? Yes. I, I followed her on Instagram for a while, was following her whole journey. We were both like walking to lose weight at the same time, so we were just doing a lot of the same things and it, oh, that works. The time. That right there is awesome. That's cool's Awesome, because now how long have you been married Dom? Um, so we'll be 11 years this year. Okay.

7:52 And Leah, you're married? Yes. And me and my husband will be 10 years this year. Okay. Okay. Leah, now I, I'd like to know how you got here now, now we, we, we, we got up to a certain point with Dom, so I, I, I gotta know like how you got to, to the non-monogamy portion of it. So basically. I didn't come out to my husband until 30 and I'm about to turn 35 this year, so, okay. A little later, a little later in life. We had been married for a while and things were just very monotonous. Yeah. In our marriage, just the same. We had a good routine. We had four kids together, so I was a stay at home mom for a long time, and then COVID happened and he deployed.

8:37 He was Air Force, so he deployed and I was like, I'm not about to do life alone, I'm not doing this. Yeah. Yeah. So when he got back from his deployment, I had a conversation with him basically telling him that I wanted to pursue women, that I was interested in women, and I wanted to date them separately outside of him. And he, and here we're, he was supportive of That's, that's Amazing's. Cool. Yeah. I, we have a lot in common ladies. We do. Yeah. I, I like that. Um. He would I would, I love women. I think women are the best. If I had not found my best friend here mm-hmm. I have to sneeze. I would've totally been with, I'm, I'm, I'm I'm com I'm competition.

9:22 I'm competition. Yeah. For sure. Um, I told her she could date others and I'm competition. I'm, I'm telling you right now. Yeah. I have, I've lived open since I was little that I can remember. Um, but I was raised in a very Latino culture that, that was frowned upon. They were very Catholic. Are you crazy? My mom would tell me when I was little. Um, if you, ev we have, we have a lot of gay family. We have, I've gay cousins in gay uncles and I have gay aunts and it's all in the family. Like it's there, but it's very my parents were very, if you ever marry outside of your race, you're out of here. If you marry or if you get with somebody that's in your same, same gender, you're out of here.

10:04 Yeah. And so that scared me when I was little. And I just stayed within my people and followed the, you know, the norm of hey or what they consider the norm of just marrying a man. So, man, number three, you think I learned my lesson after man number one, but I didn't. Um, when I, you know, and when I got with without, I was like, look, I like women. Like I've done this, I've done that, and I really like women. Like, I don't normally like 'em sexually. I like 'em like they are, we are the fucking bomb. Like, period. We are amazing humans. Yeah. You know? Yeah. We just need these beautiful creatures right here to have babies. And that's about, and I, I have boys, so she says that now, but when this thing hits off, then she's like, oh, I missed you.

10:49 Be my best friend. You know, when you find your best friend, your soulmate, it's like, this is amazing, right? Yeah, I did, we did try the poly thing. We did, we did try the poly thing. Now, you know, there was two things that, that we really wanted to experience from that. Yeah. Because. When she first came out and she came out to me like within our first month dating. Yes. And she was like, Hey I'm bisexual. I was like the first person she ever came out to. Mm-hmm. She's like, I'm bisexual. I love women. I had these experiences in the past with other women. With my last relationship, it did not go well because of the person I was with and of thing, it was just swinging. So I was just swapping. Um, but she told me all these stories and as a guy, you know, I have this whole amazing fantasy cinema thing in my head, and I'm like, you know what?

11:32 Let's do that. That sounds amazing. Uh, and she had tribulations about that initially because of her past experiences. But I wanted to try poly. You know, we did the sexual thing for a while, but I wanted to try poly for me, because I realized I was non-monogamous since like middle school, high school. I've always had. Crushes, like I've always been with you know, I, I date a girl and then I always had like a roving eye. And I remember in high school always thinking like, what the hell's wrong with me? Mm-hmm. I don't understand why I can't just do what everybody says and just focus on one relationship when all of a sudden somebody else will come through and I'll see somebody else and this and that, you know?

12:14 And I, I didn't know it had a name until I got older. Mm-hmm. Uh, and then we started exploring the lifestyle together and then we had some friends that were poly and they kind of explained it to us. And then I did my research 'cause I'm total geek. And so I started learning a lot. Here's the problem that I really had though, uh, is when we first started poll. The only resources we had were Facebook groups. Mm-hmm. And we would go into these Facebook groups and everybody was horrible. You know, you'd ask questions and they would not help you at all. They'd say, you know what? You need to Google it. Don't waste my time. You need to Google it. And so when we decided to start this podcast, I said, you know, we need to be resources for others. And when I see people like yourself who are actively being resources for others the, the content you provide is valuable.

13:03 It's very valuable. It is. Yeah. And I, where also we, you, I believe you had mentioned before, Dom, that you don't wanna see your husband dating anybody. Mm-hmm. Like, that's not your thing. Okay. So that's the way it is here. I, he, he would love for me to date a woman and he has no problem with it. He wants friends with benefits, which I can do, but for him to call somebody else, like his girlfriend doesn't sit well with me. Yeah. Going out and doing all that stuff. I'm not down for that. He loves it for me. And I'm like, okay, well that's fine, but I don't, I know that you like it for me, but I don't wanna do that for I don't want you to do that. Mm-hmm. Um, how did you, how did y'all walk through that?

13:43 Did you, did he try at least, or that was just something that was not on the table for you? Um, so in the beginning it never was something that we discussed. Okay. Um, he just was kind of like, this is your journey. Like this is something you need to do, you need to figure out for yourself. So that's never been a thing. Now, later, you know, now that it's been some time and things like that, we've had a discussion. 'cause we usually do like monthly check-ins where we'll say, Hey, how's it going? How you feeling? Do you need any reassurance? X, Y, Z? We'll do that. Um, so during that conversation, he was like how do you feel in regards to like, if I, that's something I wanted to explore. And I Yeah, that, that conversation, that took quite a few conversations because conversations, 'cause I said, excuse me, like, excuse me.

14:33 And that was kind of crazy because when I asked him how would he feel if I was with other men, he was like, oh no I'm okay. Like, if that's what you wanna do, you could do it, but without me. And I was like, well, why? And he's like, because that's like apples and apples. And I said, huh, okay, so then can you flip that? Flip it? How do you think it would be from my point of view then? And he's like, yeah, I get it. You know? He was like, I understand that. So it was a conversation I just told him like, if that's something you ever desire, just come to me, let me know. But it's not something I want to be like a part of or mm-hmm. Any of those things. So he's not there yet. He hasn't done it. He doesn't know if he has the capacity to mm-hmm. He is an electrician, so he works a lot.

15:16 He goes to school, so he doesn't even know if he has the capacity to even do it. Yeah. So, yeah, that's where said it is time consuming. I mean, there's no lying about that. Like, it is the, the big thing that we're constantly, bringing up is the calendars. So was there a moment did it, did it feel natural when, when you started out of, you know, you, you said, okay, you know what, I'm gonna explore this. Mm-hmm. Did it seem natural to you or was it really scary at first? It was scary. Yeah. Like, because I never thought that I would actually have a relationship with a woman. Like I was like, yeah, I like being with women.

15:56 They're cute. You know? I like being like that and sexual with a woman, but I'm like, I never thought I'd actually have the genuine feelings behind it. And then she comes around and I'm like, wait. So it was very, it was very scary in the beginning to figure out how to do it all. So we were learning like right, everything was hypothetical. You know? Everything is different in theory than it is in reality, right? Oh yeah. So when it actually started to happen, we were learning in the moment of, this is a boundary. This is not, we can do this, we can't do that. So it's just so much that you learn at that point, it was definitely scary. Now, do y'all live in the same city?

16:37 No. So is this, is this really long distance or just. Hop, skip and jump away. She's in Okay. In Mexico, I'm in Arizona. Oh, wow. Wow. So how does that work? How do y'all It's a seven hour drive. Wow. And do y'all like set up a time where y'all like, Hey, this is my week, or Hey, this is this is his week. 'cause y'all are moms, right? Like literal weekends that come 'cause y'all are moms and Yes. And you're also wives, so. Mm-hmm. That's a lot of, that's a lot. Mm-hmm. It's a lot. It is. It's a lot. I mean, you know, we're, we're the moms and we do most of it, right? Mm-hmm. And I mean, of course we love our husbands and they're amazing. But we do because we're just, we're just creatures like that.

17:18 Yeah. How do you manage that? 'cause that's so hard. We live on a schedule. Okay. Like, we have a calendar back. Perfect. Everything is written and we put one on the fridge, we put one in our bathroom, we put one on our phones. Like, it's so much where it's like, okay. Same. This is when her and I have the time to see each other, and every time before we leave each other, we try to make sure that we have the next month's schedule. Like, okay, well this is when we have the availability to see each other again. And then I'll go home, I'll go put it on the calendar right away on the fridge. I'll tell my husband like, Hey, this is the time. And he'll be like, okay, cool. That's Zach. And then my husband and I kind of just scheduled time around there and Okay.

17:59 Yeah. Pretty simple. I love that that's how it's supposed to. I mean, that's how our lives are, period. I mean, it, it should ideally flow that way. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's so difficult to get to that point though. 'cause it takes a lot of figuring stuff out. Yes. I'm not dating anyone, but I'm pretty much married to this podcast and the content that I do. So, I mean, anybody who does content, you know, it's like that's a lot of it can be a lot of work. Mm-hmm. It can get exhausting. And so that's, that's pretty much, that's who I'm dating right now is my podcast. But we have, we have all the calendars, you know, we got our podcast calendar, we got our lifestyle calendar, you know, we've got our kids' calendar, our family calendar, we've got our date night calendars. Yeah. You know, we've, we've got so many different things on top of, work and just the regular everyday life.

18:43 Yeah. I'm curious though, you're probably gonna ask the same question probably. I'm sure we're on the same, same way I'm have manys you guys, you guys are seven hours away from each other. On the day to day, you know, uh, when, when you're with somebody, uh, you know, you want to fit them in your day as much as possible, even though you're already busy. So I'm assuming you guys talk almost every single day. Maybe FaceTime, that sort of thing. Like, how does it work? Like, are y'all able to, are there days where it's like, I'm sorry, I just don't have time? Or is it a guaranteed every single day? It's a relationship, so it's very, okay. It's a high priority for me to send her a good morning text before I even get out of bed. I'm sending her audio mm-hmm.

19:24 Daily, every day. And we usually just find our time when we can talk check in. Like if we're gonna go pick up our kids, we'll call each other like, Hey, waiting on the kids to come out. We'll check in on each other. So yeah, we make the time. Yeah. You guys are so excited. Do y'all, do your significant others, do your other partners have relationships within, like, are y'all friends or is everybody friends? Are kids, do they all Yeah. The whole Metamore thing. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We cool like her? I think her husband's cool. Um, she's met my husband quite a few times. They've, they have like a whole nickname for each other. Like when they first met, they had a whole, he take dinner together. Yeah. Y'all had a whole little handshake going on.

20:04 Like, ID him up. Yeah. I him up. I, okay. I do call him Big dog. I do call him Big Dog because he be taking care of shit financially. So I, yeah. I call him Big Dog. I have respect. Yeah. Cool. And I've met her daughter. We've hung out. She's met my kids at our event when she's come to my city in mm-hmm. Albuquerque. Okay. She's met my husband. The kids haven't met yet. Mm-hmm. But they're begging us to come on a trip to get us. They're sick of us leaving once a month and them not getting go. Do you ever have that mommy guilt when you leave? I dunno why, but I have in the kids be in the beginning. I did. My kids are, our kids are freaking adults.

20:46 They're all, Weve got two, I mean, our youngest are 14 and we got two 14-year-old about to be 15. I have such mom guilt when I leave them. I don't, I don't have any guilt and it's I'm good. It's like they don't even need me. They do not need me. There is Uber. My kids have tea. They're old Ubers, they're, they know how to cook, they know how to clean. They don't do either of them, but they know how, you know, I have such mom guilt, so that's why I'm like, man, I don't even know. I have mom guilt and I have wife guilt. Like, I'm like, holy. That was AGB earlier and I was like. Man, I really should have brought him with me. You know, it's, it's, I didn't wanna go. I'm so, I'm, so, I was good. What is that called when you're like, you just need somebody around you.

21:26 Like it's, uh, that, that attachment. That what? It's because you got you disgust sometimes. You like having somebody. Yeah. So time. It could be anybody if I, I'm just gonna blow up of him. Just have him there next to me in the car. Buffer. Buffer. Not a blow, like a Right there, there every time. Put his face on there. Cut. Yeah. No. So they make pillows like that. You could get a body pillow. I thought about, you know, 'cause uh, Sunday is her birthday, so I'm, oh, about I thank, thank you. Yeah. I would love that. That's a good idea. That's awesome. Is that Pisces? Yes. I'm gonna be 48. I'm a Pisces and I love it. I just found out I'm gonna be 44 this year. Yeah, he forgot. I, I thought I was gonna be 43 this year. I can't believe it. Awesome. I was kind of disappointed.

22:06 Now I have another question. So my, everyone has jealousy. It's a thing. It's a, it's a normal feeling. It's feeling a human right characteristic. It's just a thing. Do you ever, did you ever find yourself with y'all's other, with your partners, with your husbands, where that jealousy came through? Or y'all pretty much like Adam and I were, you just have those uncomfortable conversations and just kind of work through it? Are you saying from Martha? Our spouses? Yeah. Like did your spouses have Jenny jealousy? Oh. And did y'all have any jealousy? Because you know, you're leaving each other to go back with your husband. I like, I mean, I see you guys staring at each other, longly. I know. It's freaking adorable. It's so cute. But I'm also sitting and I'm watching you guys, and I'm like, Ooh, how the husband's feeling about that?

22:51 Adam, you being messy. He's, he's, you hear Adam. It's International Women's Day. Okay. Thank you, ma'am. Yes ma'am. Thank y'all. Yes, ma'am. I'm sorry. On us, Adam being messy. Um, I don't forgot the, I'm the only, I'm the only husband representation here, so I gotta bring it up. So as far as like jealousies from, from fair, honestly, he loves that. He loves that. I, he loves when I can find even a woman that I can be friends with. I do not like people. Yeah. And I'm just not a people person. Sometimes like that's just. You know, it's like you have to really rub me the right place for me to even like you. Like, and I rub me the right place.

23:32 I'm not gonna lie to you. I'm so, I'm that one that's like, I could see her picture and be like, nah, I ain't gonna like her. She's like straight up, dang. And I'm my profile picture straight up. I'm sorry. There's something about her or something about them. And that's just the way, that's just the way I've always been. And I, I, I personally, so she's my balance because I don't. I don't have, he thinks everybody's a sweetish human. I love everybody so bad. I get along with everybody. And so, yeah, like, I'm that guy. Like I, I'll get along with everybody. Yeah. So I'm like, oh man, I love this person. They're, and she's like, no. Yeah, no, they're, oh, he's her. And he loves that. So him saying that, y'all look love, he loves that. He loves that. Like, when I find somebody that I like, oh dude, I love, love, man. Yeah. I, I, I'm totally digging what I see here front.

24:12 I think it's beautiful. Beautiful. Said that earlier. Yeah. Like, I think this is, then that's really why I wanted to I, yeah. I kind of wanted to bring you guys on just to celebrate what you guys got going on, because I, I think, yeah, we need to see more of this, especially nowadays, you know what I mean? Yes. Um, but I do want to turn it back around to the jealousy portion. Yeah. Because I was, uh, yeah, I was just a little curious about that. Well, because, you know, it's aval, it's valid, it's valid. This, I would say yes. The husbands did get jealous, especially in the beginning Ooh, child. So when two women get together, you know, it, it can be very fast, very intense. Yes. And I would say it started right after her and I first meetup.

24:54 We spent the whole weekend together. I came back in the door, like she dropped me back off at the house. I came in the door, I sat on the couch and I was talking to my husband. He was asking me like, so how's your, how was the weekend? And I was just like, it was fine. I was, I guess I didn't notice. I was talking soft was like, oh my God, you're talking different. What going on? And I was like, what? What are you like, I see it all on you. He was like, you, you're in love with her. And I'm like, oh, I, yeah. Okay. See, now that right there is so uncomfortable. Like I don't even think I could tell him that. I mean, it would be accepted. Yeah. He would be. I, yeah. I'm not a jealous person. Like I, I very rarely run jealous.

25:35 And I never. I never viewed her when it came to women as anything to feel threatened by. Yeah. Because like your husband says, apples to apples, you know, I like what she gets from a woman relationship. She can't get from the relationship with me. Yeah. Like it's a different thing. Exactly. Now, you know, if she wanted a relationship with another guy, I still wouldn't have a problem with it. I would explore it a little bit more and be like, well, what's he got that, that you're not getting from me already, but whatever. Uh, but as far as, you know, her exploring women relationships, I was like, dude go do your thing. You know, like, it doesn't bother me. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I love that. I love that y'all just sat and just been like, okay. Yeah. Yeah, that was definitely the hardest.

26:16 And then that's when the emotions kind of flooded in for both husbands. We were both getting it at the same time. They were like, oh, wow. How do you guys love each other already? You didn't go through anything. You didn't see her when she was sick. You didn't see her through death. And I'm like, whoa. Pump the brakes. Yeah, it's, they're a little, it's a little different. It's a little different. I mean, now that you have explored it so much, you can explain it in different, it's not, it's not. It's love. It is. It's just a love, like we love our friends. It's just, it's love. It is. Yeah. Well, you know. The, the love aspect of it was difficult. It was an uncomfortable conversation for me to have with her. So I tell 'em right now, you fall in love with anybody.

26:57 What are you supposed to do, baby? Stuff it deep down inside. That's right. I do not want to know about it. Nah, that ain't gonna happen though. And, and, you know, that's the thing about it is, I really, when we started becoming poly, I really wanted to explore relationships. I wanted to see, because I frigging love my friends. Like, I'll fall in love with my friends. I'm like, dude, I love you guys and it doesn't matter what I'm a straight man, but like, I love my guy friends. Like, I, I'll straight up, I'll say it out loud. I love you guys. I, I, I'm affectionate with everybody. And so I was like, man, I, I got so much love to give. That was my, that was my line. I got so much love to give. Mm-hmm. Can you can't just keep me caged up in this cage like a bird. And she was like, no, I, I can't, I can't.

27:39 You need to stay in that cage. And uh, and so we finally agreed that we were gonna give it a shot. And I, I told her, I said, look at, in this entire time, whatever happens, if you ever feel, if either one of us feel like we have to get out of this, like we just can't do this anymore. Mm-hmm. Just say it, just pull that rip cord and say, I don't wanna do this anymore. And without any argument, without any discussion. Like, I will accept it, or we will accept it and we will walk away. Because the priority has always been this relationship for me. Mm-hmm. Um, even though I am more poly than anything else, I can put that on the back 'cause it, it, it's not that big a deal for me. I'm married my soulmate, you know, I married my best friend, so, you know, it's gonna be really difficult to find anything outside of that.

28:26 And that was an issue that I had when I was poly two, was I was comparing everybody to her. Yeah. That's a hard part, like the comparison, I know you can't compare a woman to a man, but relationship re relationship wise, the what you. What kind of information you're giving the other partner, like if he and I are having a bad day, do I go discuss it with the other person? Do y'all keep a boundary where it's like, we don't, we're not talking about our husbands right now, but then she is also your best, one of your best friends, right? Mm-hmm. So it's like how do you keep that kind of, how do you walk that line? Yeah. It's difficult sometimes. 'cause like you said, this is my best friend. So like we'll be talking and I'll be like, man, you know, Warren done pissed me off today.

29:10 Lemme tell you about it. Yes. And it's just like such a thing. But it does like, that is something that's in the back of your mind where you're like kind of like how do you really tote that line? 'cause it is. Very hard to flow into that. And I think that's something that like, you know, as we're going on we're gonna learn to maybe fine tune or maneuver, but yeah, that's difficult. Yeah, that's difficult. I think on the other side of that though, I'm able to offer different perspectives 'cause I'm able to relate to Warren, him and I are very similar in personalities, so I'm able to offer some resolution sometimes without her having to get Yeah. With just true, just being able to have a conversation. I'm able to offer you a new perspective.

29:50 And that's true in the best, in the best friend role almost, you know, it's like, yeah, well you're not, she's my therapist. So a lot of things I come to her with, like, that's what she's doing to school for, that's what she do. So, and she's just very easy to talk to and she has a lot of, a lot of good perspective to offer. That's awesome. Dominic, you true? Yeah. You're, you're going to school for, are you going to school for that right now? Yes. To be a therapist? Yes. Okay. Wow. Any specific arena or that you're going for? So I'm trying to be a licensed clinical social worker. Beautiful. We need that. Oh, I love that. That's amazing. We need that. Mental health is mm-hmm. So important right now. Mm-hmm. Yay. It always has been, but especially right now. Um, thank you. Yeah. We need, we need a whole lot of you, so that's awesome.

30:32 That's great. That's awesome. Well, I'm sending you good vibes for that. Yeah, because that's, thank you. You're gonna, you're gonna kick ass at that. That's awesome. Thank you. I, I love what you guys have and I think that's really, really cool that y'all are able to work that where you can give her other perspective on what she's kind of going through. I have another couple of friends that they're all kind of in a relationship together, the two couples. Mm-hmm. And Oh, they play that. Yeah. They, they play that role for each other, even though, the ladies are together, but they play that role in which, you know, it's like, okay, well let me, let me tell you, this is kind of what you're going through. And I always found that kind of Fascinating. Is there ever Leah, is there ever a time where you're playing that role and you're doing what you should as, as the best friend should?

31:18 Uh, but then you're kind of like, man, I gotta, I wanna give my, uh, I want to give like a real passionate opinion, but I should probably, I should probably keep that to myself for a little bit every day. Yes. I was like, of course, right? Yes. Yeah, because I don't, I don't wanna, yeah. I don't wanna impact their relationship in any kind of way, you know? Of course. If I can't add something positive to the conversation, then I'm just not gonna say anything I that is, so that's a really great answer. Yeah. Yeah. That's a really great answer. And you guys are so strong. Now, now do, okay, so y'all are together. Parents, I mean, family knows your, your significant others know. Do your other, do your. Outside family?

31:58 No, we don't have any, like, we don't talk to our family, so we can give a shit if it No, we're not. It's, it's really just the people in this household. I don't talk to me. Yeah. I mean we, we became, when we came out she came out as bisexual. We came out as Poly. Poly or, and they were just people shed off of us, like fleas off of a clean cat. Like they just started just jumping off. Yeah. And so, mm-hmm. It was kind of like the trash kind of taking itself out to the curve. Those Oh, yeah. We realized that this was, it's the best. These were the people that were stressing us out and all of a sudden they were all gone. Yeah. And they weren't stressing us out anymore. Mm-hmm. So y'all are in different, I mean, know you have your sisters on here, everybody knows Ev It's pretty open, it's accepted. Yeah, so I came out, I, so the first person I was really scared to come out to was my mom.

32:41 Mm-hmm. She was the reason why I hid this side of myself. Yeah. Like the entire time. So I text her, I FaceTimed my dad. I called my sister. I told everybody, but like distance family, they found out through my TikTok. Okay. Yeah. And they were like, what's going on here? Like, what do, what is Dominique doing out there in Arizona? It got freak on point where Yes. It got to the point where my grandma found out and she's like, so how's your lady friend doing over there? And I'm like, whoa, grandma, how did you find this out? I call your TikTok. Hello. That's awesome. That's amazing. Yeah. I love that. Same for you, Leah. Was that just pretty much everybody knows.

33:24 For the most part. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't have conversations with like my extended my stepdad or Yeah. People that I grew up with that I knew were really religious. Yeah. I already knew what their comments are gonna be, so I didn't feel the need to, of course. But they're all on my Facebook and they can see my social media. Yeah. My oldest daughter is also on my Instagram, so she's hit to our relationship. She's seen our trips and she knows what's going on. I love that. I need to find me a girlfriend. I've been telling you for a long time, man, I could, frankly, I could use the break at home. I, I'm actually you, so Adam should have a conversation with our husband to be like, that is is such a husband thing to say.

34:06 I'm sorry, but I, yeah, no, I mean. You love your husband, but yeah, every now and then a good break. I always go to that, that damn eighties song. Every lover needs a holiday. It's like, yes. You, you do. You know, and I, this is where I always said that I'm, I'm competition because, you know, I. I bus her chops a lot. But we really are best friends and it's for both of us. We rarely are apart from each other. Yeah. Like we're always together. And I always keep her laughing. Like this is, this is just, yeah. What you see here is the way we are all the time with each other. And, uh, I know. Don't feel sorry for me. Yeah. No, she chose this. I can survive. She chose this. I didn't, I I, she caught me right after a divorce and I was like, I don't wanna get into a relationship.

34:51 She was like, no, we're getting married at some point. I was like, no. Like I just divorced. I gotta get married. So, yeah. No, it's, it is hard. I, we actually, we have been discussing every now and then, I'm like, wow. Because I talk to people like yourself and we talked to therapists and we get to interview a lot of really amazing people on our show that I have. I've actually grown. If you listen to the first podcast and listen to my podcast, I listen to our podcast from like today. It's just holy crap. Is that the same woman? I love women, and so we have discussing. I was like, man. I could go for a girlfriend, I really could. But then she wants to take me on her dates, but then I'm like, you think they'll legit? She wants to take me on her dates.

35:31 She's like, you think they'll let you come with me too? So when we were poly and, and we had, in the hometown that we were at, we lived in this, a small beach town in South Texas. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And it was a very conservative town, and everybody there cheated. And if it was out in the open, they were like no, we're not doing that. Yeah. Like I, I would go out with women that I would meet on, on different apps and they'd be like, yeah, it's open. I don't think so. I there's a better chance of if you were cheating. And I was like, what? I'm the competition. Right? They have to compete with the wife. And that was the mentality. So then we moved out here towards central Texas. We're near, we're, we're by Austin. And, you know, it's, it's a bit more accepted out here. It's, it's a bit easier out here. Mm-hmm. And so I told her, I was like, look go explore.

36:12 Go find yourself a, a nice girl, this and that. See what, what comes out of it. You can explore a relationship. Yeah. Like an actual relationship. And after the relationships that she had, she was like, I don't want to date women. You know, it was very, um, it was all about sex, you know. So, yeah, no, we, um, now that I get to talk to a lot of people. And in, in, and different relationships and different therapists and different just people that we have on our platform, it really has opened my eyes up to different scenarios. Mm-hmm. But when I was dating with poly and I was dating women, it was just, it, it was just sex. That's all they wanted. And, and that's all they, you know, and they, it's very hard for me to accept gifts.

36:56 It's very hard for me to be pampered when it's not my husband. And so that was really, I was okay with it. It was really awkward for me. And I didn't have to buy AirPods. Okay. Like, you know, how expensive those things are. I didn't have to buy AirPods, you know, I didn't know. I, I'm always the gift giver. And so it was really hard for me to have that kind of relationship and mm-hmm. It felt weird. It didn't feel right to me. Now I see things way differently. Have experienced a lot of different things. And so it's like, oh, okay. The only hard part that I could see would be because this is where we balance at, you know, I wear my, my heart on my sleeve, like I'm just that guy.

37:36 My lovely wife here is a bit cynical and that's the label that she should choose, you know, she wears it as a badge. It's okay. And that's where we balance, you know, because she'll see me flying off to the next adventure and she's like, Uhuh, come back over here. You know? And so she's not, it takes a lot for her to trust somebody. Yes. Enough to let those true feelings fly. I'm getting better. I'm getting better. But that is hard. But that's where I'm, I'm getting better. I have, I like a lot of, yeah, he's, he's, I was like, you sure about that? I'm telling you. No. I have women in my life now that I actually like to be around. Absolutely. Just as friends. Like that's just, that right there is a win for me.

38:17 So, yeah. You know, but, you know, sound familiar? Mm-hmm. There's it's just funny because a lot of people they have fantasies about this whole mm-hmm. Scenario, and I'm not even talking sexually, but just the look of this is like, it gets very beautiful in somebody's mind. It's like, yeah, I can go out there. I mean, I had it. I can go out there and I can date other women, and I can have my primary relationship. That shit was hard, guys, and I'm, I'm, I'm saying it wasn't just hard date. I mean, it's, I'm 43 and swiping left and right is not the easiest thing for me because I kept swiping on the wrong person. Yeah. I would swipe, I swiped the wrong direction. I couldn't get my coordination down. And then I'm like, why is this person messaging me?

38:57 I swiped the other way. Yeah. But then when I finally stood, you know, I, I dated a few women and I had a few girlfriends and this and that. It was stressful. And it was stressful because my wife purposefully made it stressful. I did. Like, she straight up a admit, she's like, I did, I made it hard for you because I didn't like it. Mm-hmm. And, uh, and I knew she was, but we did our best to try and, and get those experiences as much as possible. The hard part for me was really kind of sharing, sharing my time, because we have so many kids. Mm-hmm. Uh, we have five kids, we have four at home, and I'm very, very close to them. Like, I, I homeschooled them for a while. Like, I was really, really, really close to my kids and we spent a lot of time together.

39:40 And then of course, my wife and I spent a lot of time together. It was really difficult to say, okay guys, I'll see you later. Mm-hmm. I'm gonna go out with this girl now, you know, and spend time with them. It just was really, it was too difficult for me. Uh mm-hmm. Now when the kids are outta the house, I don't know. Yeah. Maybe, maybe. But, you know, with the kids still around there, it's like, gosh, it's just too difficult. And our kids know, uh, uh, you know, we came, when we came out, uh, as poly, we let our kids know, look, we're you know, we're in open relationships, you know, we didn't get into the details, but we explained to them what non-monogamy meant, and this and that. Mm-hmm. Well, now they're older, this generation, they, they know more about non-monogamy than we ever did.

40:20 Yeah. You know, the, the research is out there. Like I said, it's normalized now. Yeah. Uh, being out there, what did you, how did you decide, I'm just gonna start sharing this relationship online? Like how, where did you just like, yes, I'm just gonna do this, this content creator here? Yes. You, you had to put your whole life out there. And I, I, and I get it because that's what we do. Yeah. Um, but that's a very personal portion of you. How did you, how did this even come about? Like you just said, you know what? I'm gonna throw it out there. Yeah, pretty much. Um, like I said earlier, I wanted to tell my own story. Yeah. I didn't want no one to call up this person, call up that person, get the details wrong, say this, say that.

41:00 Listen, if I'm gonna do it, number one, I'm gonna do it and I'm gonna be proud of what I'm doing. Nobody's gonna shame me into any box. Nobody's gonna tell me what I can and can't do, and I'm gonna tell you straight out what I'm doing. However, I just thought I was gonna put a camera in front of my face, yap. About what's going on and nobody was gonna care. Yeah. They can't. Thousand people care. Turns out I took a lot of things by storming. I had no idea that this was gonna come. I've been called everything under the sun. Yeah. I've been, had so much stuff happening and I'm just like, I didn't quite think all of this through. Like, I just wanted to tell my story, but I've so much good came from it.

41:42 I have a group of over 730 women in it, and we all share inspiration. We've gone on trips, uh, together. We're playing in our second trip. I've helped so many women just come out to their husbands, come out to their family members. So much Good has come out of it. However, I never expected me to be here. Yeah. I just was like, I wanna tell my story. Oh, I don't want anyone to tell it for me. So, yes. Yeah, that was kind of like my decision factor was for me to tell it. I had no idea it was gonna get this public. I love that. Now, I, you know, I'm curious while we're on the content portion of it, because, uh, I know how difficult a live can be and mm-hmm.

42:24 I frigging love your lives because I'm, and I'm not gonna lie to you, Dom, I, I'm a little scared of you the same way I'm scared of my wife. Okay? And, and I got no reason for me to be scared of you. But it, what it is, is you're just a very strong personality. Like you're a strong direct woman. And one, I, I dig that, but two uhhuh, it's, it kind of makes you sit off to the side and go, Ooh, I don't wanna say the wrong thing. You know what I mean? Um, and so it, that's very similar to how my wife is. I've seen her on her lives. She's dealt with her trolls so beautifully. I. I hate going on lives, I'll be honest with you. Yeah. I go on lives maybe once a week if I can get past the anxiety of it all. But I build up this whole thing in my head like, no.

43:05 'cause as soon as I'm gonna get on, I'm gonna deal with trolls. They're gonna piss me off and it's gonna ruin my day. I don't even wanna go there. You know what I mean? Yes. Because people come in and they tell you also, and I've seen the comments on some of your stuff. They never say whatever the hell they wanna say. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. So how do you, how do you deal? I mean, I know what I see, but how do you deal with it? Like when you shut it off, does it sit with you still? Are you able to just kind of push it away and not think twice about it? I'm gonna be honest. So I've been talking online for over a year now. In the beginning, those comments used to hit hard. Yeah. I used to be like, why so? So many mean people, they'll, if they can't attack my actual relationship dynamic, they'll attack my looks.

43:48 Right. They'll attack this, they'll attack that. And I'm like, damn. Yeah. It's so much hatred in the world. So much people are so, so unhappy. Yes. That it's like, oh my God. And they'll throw it at you. Mm-hmm. They'll keep throwing at, yeah. And so in the beginning, I used to hate getting on live. I used to be like, man, I can't do this. But then I'll get so many people coming to me and they'll be like, you helped me. Thank you. I love talking to you. You did this for me. And I'll be like, okay, well let me focus on that. But like now, everybody has said the same damn thing. Yeah. I hear the same comments. Yeah. You are this, you are that. They'll bring up my race, they'll bring up my weight, they'll bring up my looks, they'll bring up my hair, they'll bring up everything. And I've heard it all.

44:29 Yeah. And so now it's just like redundant. So I'll just tell them like, try again. Put your back into the next comment and try a little bit more. Yeah, and a little bit razzle. So when I get offline, once I press and nobody else exists, like they don't even exist for real. So I'll press in and I'll go on about my day. I'll blow it off. I'll be like, huh, cool. All right, let's go. Like, yeah, because I've seen it all. So I'm, I'm hoping to attain that level and I'm getting better. I used to take a lot of comments, you know, comments on my content, comments on the lives, all that stuff on our YouTube, oh my God. The contents we get on our YouTube. I was called a bad parent because we're, we're non monogamous, whatever. But all of these comments, I used to take 'em very seriously.

45:10 And then I, I saw an interview with Dave Chappelle. Dave Chappelle said, you know, I, I would get upset about it, but social media's not real. This is not a real space. It's not these, this, these people just come on here and they write on your wall or they say whatever they're gonna say. And this is not real. It's really not. And I just kind of, and that kind of rang with me and I was like, okay, whatever. And so I can handle it a lot better, but I still got that anxiety. Mm-hmm. Nothing, nothing bothers me. Care. Nothing bothers her. And I don't really like a lot of men. So when men, of course, men are the first people to get on there and they're like, oh your man doesn't do what you want, and that's why you're, I'm like, yeah, O okay. Bye. I mean, I'll fight back with them just because I, just, because I like to fight with men.

45:52 It's pretty much what it's, but I don't get bothered by anything. I'm like, oh, we're gonna do this. All right. You wanna do this on live? Let's do this. Mm-hmm. Yeah. You know, she's, she's definitely got her way of, of doing things and Yeah. Um, you know, from the content creation, you know, I didn't figure that I would be here. For sure. Um, you know, this was not in the plans for me. You know, when we moved out here and my lovely wife in the year 2020 decided, Hey, let's start a podcast. And I was like, Uhuh, ain't nobody gonna listen to us. Like that's, no, nobody wants to hear about this. I wish I had because we'd probably be more popular right now. We started about a year ago. You just gotta do it.

46:33 Yeah. You really do. And. Like you said, when it comes to men, like men were my biggest haters in the beginning. Oh, first, sure. Then it became a lesbian women, men and lesbian women cannot stand me. They shake hands and they get in my comments. And they just destroyed. And it's just like, what the hell? So as men, lesbian women, religious people, those three. Yeah. And it never fails. It never fails. And then the world just goes around everybody literally. Because men want you, and lesbian women want you, and they can't. Neither one of them can have you. It's true. And religious people, well, they're just religious people so that they're just throwing whatever around. Yeah. There's preaching going on there. Exactly. Uh, yeah.

47:13 So that's that. And that was one of the things that I, I had wanted to discuss with you because I, I highly respect your, uh, your tactics during live. Mm-hmm. Uh, you're, you know, you really are. You come off very unbothered very straightforward. And like I said, you caught my attention because what you're doing is very, very important. The information you're giving is, um, is really, it's great. It's information that it's clear. Yeah. It's concise. Yes. You know, it's straight and direct and to the point. There are a lot of, uh, you know, there's a lot of us content creators in this niche that we're in. And some of 'em only. Show the happy sides. Mm-hmm. The, the, the beautiful highlight reel all the time.

47:54 Yeah. You know what I mean? Um, we got into this because we really wanted to focus on the relationship aspect of it, the internal mechanics of it, all the questions that you have to ask yourself before you jump into something like this. Mm-hmm. People don't really realize what goes into this. This is not a one night stand situation that turns into, oh, I'm in a relationship now. There's a lot of moving parts and you guys really embody that. And that's really why I wanted to have you guys on, with that, I, uh, we're gonna go ahead and start wrapping up. We're gonna definitely have you back on. We would love to have you guys back on Yes. Maybe later on in the year. Sure. We can schedule something and get you guys back on and, because there's so much, and I wanna know about these friends with all the trips that you go on, take me with you.

48:38 Yes. Join the group, girl. Yes. There's room for you. Yes. Gme gotta call. I, I, yeah, I wanna know all about that because I would love to not only like, just sit there and kind of be amongst women who have the same mentality. You know this, this woman is very empowered. She's very strong woman. That's what I, that's what I adore about her. And that to me, honestly, I'm, I'm gonna put it all out on the table here. I am very turned on by strong women. Like, I love and adore strong women, opinionated. Independent, straightforward kind of women. So that's what I'm talking about. Preach. You got it. You got it. Yes. And so that's, that's what I dig, because there's no, there's no question about it.

49:21 Yeah. There's no beating around the bush. I, I'm, I know exactly what this woman is thinking because she's saying it out loud. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. Or my face is showing it. Right. And for a lot of us guys, we need that simplicity, you know, because Yeah. You know, it's like, Hey, be, and I use, tell her all the time, I can't figure out what you're thinking. You have to tell me. Yeah. And so she, she is very empowered now. She loves strong, to be around strong women and kind of be a part of that group. Yes. And when we started all of this. The podcast started taking off about six months into it. Mm-hmm. And I was informed by people who do podcasts. They were like, Hey man, you need to take this to the next level. You need to start doing video and you need to start doing TikTok.

50:02 And I was like, dude, I don't like TikTok. I don't wanna be on TikTok. I mean, I do my, like he, his tiktoks and my tiktoks are very different. Right. Different. Like, he's very sweet, he's very direct, but he's very sweet and he wants to be more educational. And I'm more of the, now we're gonna keep this real, like yeah, they're jealousy. Yes, there's this and that and mm-hmm. Get over it. Talk to your spouse. And it's our styles. Yeah. It's our different styles. And, and it's what I love about her and that's, that's really what I wanted when we started our TikTok was because she was like we should start a, a TikTok together. And I said, no. I said, what we need are our own two separate tiktoks. Mm-hmm. Where you can be this one. Individual person. Mm-hmm. I could be this one individual person.

50:43 People can get to know us as individuals. Yeah. And then they can come onto our pod, they can see our podcast and see how we interact with each other as a couple. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Uh, because everybody knows us as a unit. Yeah. And it's, I think it's important that people know her, specifically her, because I am the frigging talker. It's important that they get to know her because I frigging adore this woman. And she, there's a reason why I love her so much and if people get to know her, they're gonna love her too. But we need more women like that. Like we need more of us. Yeah. We, we really do stay. We need more, we need way more of us. Like there should not be any reason for us to be quiet. There should not be any reason for us not to be able to talk to our spouses. Nobody owns us.

51:24 We are all together in this relationship. It is partnerships. Yes. I love that you said that. And I say that all the time in regards to women, that we need to speak up more, we need to be more confident, we need more confident women in the world so that things can be better. Yes. There's so many unconfident women that just sit back. They kind of just let the men run all this. Look at what's going on. Exactly. Look at what we have going on. Exactly. 'cause we don't have women that are confident enough in their energy. Our energy alone, our cadence alone as women is so valuable. Yes. It's so valuable. And the more confident women we have, baby.

52:04 Yes. It's just, it's so important. We gotta stand up, we gotta speak up. We can't be quiet. Why? Why as a woman are you quiet? Like, why are you quiet? Exactly. Speak up and if you're their part turned you every which way but loose. Exactly. And he's, and, and if you have a man who's behind you, beside you and just telling you, do it. Do it. They're there for you. You know, your family's there for you. Like it's, that's your support. It's your support. Yeah. It's, it's, it's a partnership and yeah. We definitely need more women. So I will definitely be looking into those vacations. That's right. Our next one is in October, so Yes. The crew, you can't do, you know, we're going on a cruise in October.

52:45 We have been invited to go on a cruise from Montreal to Boston. To Boston to go see, um, the, the foliage changed. The foliage changed. Yeah, the leaves changed. What's that? The leaves changing during the, oh girl. I don't even know what it is, but it's that we're down in south Texas, or we were down in South Texas. We lived our whole lives in Texas. It's changing. Right. And we don't have seasons in Texas. Uh, you know, and so we were told this is like a beautiful event. Yes. Apparently the colors of the leaves all changed. And this is the thing, we're gonna go to Nova Scotia. What? Yeah, I didn't even know it was, I didn't even know how close that place is. But yeah, I wanna know more about your, your trips and stuff, so I will definitely keep in touch. Yeah. So you guys definitely should link. Yes. Yes. Awesome. We, you know, I, I gotta say, I, I appreciate Leah, I appreciate you joining.

53:27 Yes. Uh, I think you guys are frigging adorable, man. I love that you, I love, love and I love what you guys have going on. Yes. Y'all, y'all. Rock on with that. And thank you for being here and sharing y'all story with everybody. We love how different people, different relationships, know how to navigate through non-monogamy in their own way. So I find it so beautiful and we're gonna have way more conversations with you guys. We really are. So we're gonna, I'm gonna be in contact with you. We're gonna, we're gonna get something scheduled now. With that, Dominique, this has been a really great conversation. We appreciate you coming out and sharing your story with us. And thank you everybody for listening, and thank you for being here again. We love to hear how different people navigate through this non-monogamy and doing it their own way.

54:09 Yeah. So if you've enjoyed today's episode and you wanna follow Dominique and see the content that she shares about her relationship dynamic, you can also find all of her social media links on our website under the guest bio section at www dot beyond monogamy do com. And while you're there, you can check out all of our past episodes, our video clips, our blogs, merch, and ways to contact us. Yes. Uh, you can also leave us a message through our 100% anonymous beyond Monogamy confessional, where people share their stories, their questions, their opinions about relationships, the lifestyle, even our podcast like. We have no way of tracking you down. It is you just throw it out there and if you elect to you check that little box, we will talk about it on our next shelf.

54:54 So that is always something that, uh, you have available to you. Yes, and we've got some really fun events coming up. That's right. On March 22nd at 4:00 PM Central, we'll be doing our monthly online webinar at SDC. Yes. And the topic is red flags and green flags in the Lifestyle, which honestly is one of the most important things should understand when navigating through the lifestyle. Oh, big time. Big time, yes. Then on March 29th from 6:00 PM to 8:00 PM Central, we'll be doing an in-person workshop called Swingers 1 0 1 at Forbidden Fruit. So if you're curious about the lifestyle or just wanna learn more, you can find all the information there at www.forbiddenfruit.com/workshops.

55:35 Also, the weekend of April 11th will be at the Texas Desires Hotel Takeover in San Antonio, Texas, doing a live show. Hanging out all weekend long. Yeah. So if you're there, definitely come say hi. Also, don't forget to catch us every Thursday, 2:00 PM and 7:00 PM Central on full swap radio.com, along with a Be of other Cool and sexy podcasts. Oh, that's so good. That's so good. That's right. And you're gonna be able to catch. These awesome people here as our guest. Yes, Dom. Leah, thank you so much for joining us, and with that we, thank you all for listening. Yes. And, we'll see you next week. Bye.