Random Talks: Bedroom Dealbreakers & Swinger Club Etiquette

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All right, y'all.

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Before we dive in, a quick heads-up This
show is raw, real, and definitely not

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rated PG We're talking about adult themes,
sexual content, and the kinda stuff you

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probably don't want blasting through
your speakers at work or around your

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kids So grab some headphones, pour your
drink of choice, and get comfy Oh, and

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just so we're clear, we are not licensed
therapists, counselors, or sex couches.

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Sex coaches.

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Sex coaches.

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Not sex couches We're just a couple of
people sharing our lives, experiences, and

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sexy adventures in ethical non-monogamy.

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So with that, pull up a chair and
enjoy the show Hello, and welcome to

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another episode of Beyond Monogamy.

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I'm Adam.

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And I'm Pris.

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Sorry, I had to change it up a little bit
because I, I edit the show all the time.

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Uh-huh.

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And then I also listen to the show, and
I'm like, "Huh, I say the same thing every

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single time." Well, that's your name.

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You say it in the same tone every time.

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Yeah.

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Well, that's what I meant.

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Yeah.

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Anyways, uh, you know, I was
getting, getting going this Saturday.

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I was kind of making my way through
the day, and then I was like, "Hey, we

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should probably record a Sunday show- Yes
… because tomorrow's Sunday." And if you're

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listening to this, it's probably Sunday.

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Um, and uh, you know, just thinking
off the top of my head, I was

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like, "What could we talk about?"
Well, I've got, like, a whole

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bunch of questions to ask you.

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I have a whole bunch of stuff.

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Do you?

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So- I have… No, I just have
things to ask, but I mean, not

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to ask, but like to talk about.

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You have things to ask?

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Well, good.

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We can talk, and we can
throw it all through.

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Okay, go.

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I wrote down some things, uh,
because I figured that we were

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just gonna free flow it today.

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Why not?

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Why not?

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Let's free flow it.

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We free flow life, might as well
do the podcast the same way.

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Free flow.

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Our sexual free-flowing freedom.

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Joking.

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<< Freedom.

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>> All right.

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So I wrote a few things down here-
Okay … on my phone, my smartphone.

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Are we gonna go back and forth so we
can ask each other the same questions?

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We can if you've got… Wait,
what are you, what now, what, what

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are you gonna- Whatever questions
you have, I wanna ask you, too.

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Go ahead.

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Okay, go.

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All right.

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Here we go.

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Okay.

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Question number one: What is
something that you don't like for

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other people to do when you're
being sexually intimate with them?

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Ooh.

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Now, I have one for you that comes
to my mind, and I don't know if

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you're gonna say it or not, but I'm
interested- It's like, "Don't touch

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me." I'm int- Stay three feet away.

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Uh, there's one in particular that
has been in my head, and I, and I,

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I hope that you say it- Yeah … but
I don't think that you will.

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Do you wanna whisper it to me?

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No.

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You gotta… I wanna see
what you've gotta say.

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Um- So what is something that you don't
like for other people to do to you

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when being sexually intimate with them?

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Pound me severely hard Yeah?

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Mm-mm.

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You don't care for that, huh?

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Mm-mm.

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You d- um, kinda like the pornographic
s- Mm-hmm … smack, smack, smack,

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smack, smack It just creates air.

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Like, especially if we're doing it
from the, uh… Actually, if we're

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doing it doggy, I don't like it.

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It's like bam, bam, bam, and then
you get air in me, and I just do

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not f- it feels uncomfortable.

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Yeah, yeah, doing doggy.

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Plus, you gotta do it
outside by the bushes.

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Just weird.

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Woof, woof.

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Just weird.

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But you gotta be
authentic- Um … you know?

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Gotta be authentic.

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Don't suck on my neck.

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Don't suck on your neck.

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You can kiss, but don't suck on my neck.

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Um- Okay … I don't like that.

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Um, don't bite my nipples.

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No biting the nipples.

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So, uh, so far you have not- I haven't?

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No.

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Um- But I'm, I'm waiting.

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Keep going.

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If there's anything more, tell me when you
s- tell me when you've, uh, reached that

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point, and I'll let you know what I think.

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Don't kiss me for so long.

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Long kissing.

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Okay.

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I don't know.

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What else?

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I mean, I'm starting to
like the fingering, but…

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Well, so one thing that you
forget until it happens is, uh,

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when people touch your face.

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Oh, God, don't touch my face.

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Oh, man.

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Yeah.

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Because I can.

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Yes.

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I can.

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Yeah.

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And that was something that I
was thinking about the other day

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'cause… or today, actually.

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Today, 'cause you touched my face.

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Yeah, I sure did.

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I was like, "Ew."

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Mm. I was like, "Don't touch my
face." And that was a hot session.

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But yeah.

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Like, to grab me and my face and
then to- I've seen other guys

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do that before … I'll, I'll,
like, move their hand and be like-

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Yeah … "Yeah, that's not my thing."
I've seen- "That's a woman's thing.

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That ain't my thing." I've
seen other guys, uh, grab your

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face like that during sex.

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Now… Yeah.

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And, and I'm like, "Ooh." Yeah.

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"Watch out." Like, no.

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I feel like 'cause that's very dominating,
and it's like I'm not that girl.

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I am not that woman who- who's
gonna be, like, cool with that.

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If I'm okay with that-
True … I'll tell you.

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But, mm. It takes a lot of trust, I think.

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Do you know what I mean?

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But first of all, people should ask.

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Yeah.

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That's true.

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Nobody asks, like, "What don't you
like?" It'll give me a moment, but

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no, I'm gonna write them all down.

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No, yeah, you should.

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Yeah.

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Just keep a tally.

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Is there anything you don't like?

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That I don't like when it comes
to, uh, sexually- I can tell you

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what you don't like … intimate?

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Um, I don't like anyone assuming, uh, that
my ass area is up for grabs, so to speak.

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You haven't had that, but yeah.

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I haven't, but- Thank
goodness … uh, you know, that's-

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I would've heard about it, guys.

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Yeah.

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Well, I mean, I had it when I was younger-
Yeah … you know, without consent.

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Right.

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Uh, but yeah, there
was, uh… there's that.

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But, like, as far as experiences,
there's not really a whole lot.

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You know what?

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I don't like my balls aggressively sucked.

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Yeah.

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It's like some women, they've seen porn
or whatever, and they're like, "Mm, mm,"

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like that, doing that whole- Really?

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Oh, dude, yeah.

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What, have you had that recently?

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Not recently.

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Yeah.

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But I had it, like, since we've
been together, I've had it before-

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Yeah, yeah … with another woman.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Um, I've had that before.

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Um, or just, like, putting it in your
mouth and, like, sucking on it like

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you're sucking on a nipple or something.

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It's like- Different … that's
got some force.

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Nah, you gotta be gentle
with them things, you know?

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Uh, and even then, I don't know.

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Maybe just stay away.

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We're gonna have to do a
fellatio one-on-one, one-on-one.

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Not a one-on-one.

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So yeah, you know, I think that,
that would probably be one of

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the, uh, one of the things.

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Why?

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Did, did you, did you have one?

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Uh, no.

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I mean-

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Am I missing one?

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There's really not a whole lot for me.

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Yeah.

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Uh, no sucking on the neck.

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Like you realize how that- That's… Yeah.

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Well, you- But you realize
what it is, like no marking up.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Well, I just don't like
to get in trouble by you.

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Oh, but you don't like 'em anyway.

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I don't like 'em anyway.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's what I was saying, but
I'm saying I don't like to get

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in trouble by you a- as well.

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Like that's the- Well, you're
about to get in trouble.

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What the hell?

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I mean- Take it easy, Holmes.

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Geez.

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I'm just saying.

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God, so angry, aggressive.

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Gonna be aggressively sucking my balls.

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I

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am.

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That's right.

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All right.

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You're not gonna stop me.

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All right.

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Hang on a second.

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Here we go.

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What is something that they will do, they
being whoever you're sexually intimate

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with, what is something that they can
do that will immediately turn you off?

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Now it's kinda similar to the last
question, but maybe you haven't started

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sex yet, like leading up to the sex.

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What is something that the, the
person that maybe you're on board to

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have sex with- Hmm … can do or say
that will immediately turn you off?

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Probably like your number one thing.

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If we haven't already discussed
it, to immediately assume

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You don't have to wear a condom Ah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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If it hasn't already
pre-been, been pre-discussed.

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I, I feel like there's a lot of
people who are, uh, newer in the

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lifestyle who maybe haven't had that
conversation but just assume it's okay.

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Mm-hmm.

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Um, I've, I've run into a
lot of people that it's like,

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"Uh, we, we don't really- Yeah

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we don't really do that." And it's
like, well- Mm … are you sure?

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We don't really do this then.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, you know?

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Um, you can tell the ones that are
really in the community, the ones

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that are really deep-rooted into the
community, and, uh, you know, they go

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to events, and they, they're just there.

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Yeah.

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Those are the ones that are
really championing, uh, condom

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usage and regular testing.

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Yeah.

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Uh, a lot of newer, uh, couples tend to
just go, "Hmm, let's maybe not talk about

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it. Maybe we can just do it." Mm-hmm.

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Mm-hmm.

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Let's… A- and I get the s-
the spontaneous hotness of

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let's rip each other's clothes
off and just fucking go at it.

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Yeah.

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Right?

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That's hot.

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That's fantasy.

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Uh, but reality is,
hey, no glove, no love.

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00:09:02,697 --> 00:09:03,407
That's right.

253
00:09:03,507 --> 00:09:04,147
Oh, yeah.

254
00:09:06,077 --> 00:09:06,347
You?

255
00:09:06,927 --> 00:09:16,157
For me, um- Immediately … immediately,
an immediate turnoff, if I, if I'm

256
00:09:16,277 --> 00:09:19,827
s- if I'm into them, like I find
them attractive, like I'm like, "Ooh,

257
00:09:19,857 --> 00:09:26,897
yeah," uh, an immediate turnoff t-
s- that's gonna sound silly, but an

258
00:09:26,897 --> 00:09:32,767
immediate turnoff for me would be if
they kinda cast me aside or, like-

259
00:09:33,217 --> 00:09:34,117
Oh, yeah, you've had that before

260
00:09:34,127 --> 00:09:36,897
treat me like I'm-
Yeah … like, eh, whatever.

261
00:09:36,957 --> 00:09:37,077
Yeah.

262
00:09:37,077 --> 00:09:37,437
You know?

263
00:09:37,517 --> 00:09:39,047
And then you piss off the
wife when you do that.

264
00:09:39,447 --> 00:09:39,607
Yeah.

265
00:09:39,607 --> 00:09:41,057
You piss me off when you
do that to my honey, so.

266
00:09:41,067 --> 00:09:41,957
Yeah, it's not good.

267
00:09:42,037 --> 00:09:42,267
No.

268
00:09:42,277 --> 00:09:42,727
It's not good.

269
00:09:43,017 --> 00:09:46,077
Uh, but, you know, I mean, I, I, I
don't… It doesn't happen often- But,

270
00:09:46,077 --> 00:09:51,044
you know- … but it has happened before
… it, Bad kissing in the very beginning Yeah

271
00:09:51,294 --> 00:09:52,424
if we haven't even had sex.

272
00:09:52,434 --> 00:09:54,124
Like, the bad kissing is like, ooh.

273
00:09:54,134 --> 00:09:59,254
Like, Adam really has to be like,
"It's okay. Try it again." Does it-

274
00:09:59,254 --> 00:10:02,024
Bad, bad kissing has definitely-
Yeah … been a turn-off for you, and

275
00:10:02,024 --> 00:10:05,944
something that you had to deal with
often in this lifestyle, which is funny.

276
00:10:06,524 --> 00:10:06,804
Yeah.

277
00:10:06,854 --> 00:10:09,294
Uh, I haven't run into a
whole lot of bad kissers.

278
00:10:09,294 --> 00:10:10,594
I don't think you're picky at all, so.

279
00:10:10,644 --> 00:10:12,734
Well, I have a lot of women
who say I'm a good kisser.

280
00:10:12,734 --> 00:10:17,922
So, can you be a, an overly good
kisser to alleviate the bad kisser?

281
00:10:17,932 --> 00:10:18,583
I have.

282
00:10:19,363 --> 00:10:20,363
I'm a great kisser.

283
00:10:20,753 --> 00:10:22,833
Well, no, I'm not, I'm
saying, I'm in general.

284
00:10:22,833 --> 00:10:25,323
And so, like, like, the bad kisser-
Yeah … I just go, "Okay. Hold on.

285
00:10:25,443 --> 00:10:26,383
We're gonna teach you real quick."

286
00:10:27,003 --> 00:10:27,303
Yeah.

287
00:10:27,333 --> 00:10:29,333
And then I just do something and it works.

288
00:10:29,333 --> 00:10:30,383
You just do something?

289
00:10:30,603 --> 00:10:30,933
It works.

290
00:10:31,433 --> 00:10:34,233
I just do something by
massaging his balls.

291
00:10:35,013 --> 00:10:36,663
That's, that's- You're really
into the ball thing right now.

292
00:10:36,713 --> 00:10:37,113
Yeah.

293
00:10:37,113 --> 00:10:37,433
I don't know.

294
00:10:37,433 --> 00:10:38,443
It's the ball truth.

295
00:10:38,823 --> 00:10:38,863
I see.

296
00:10:38,873 --> 00:10:39,493
Okay.

297
00:10:40,053 --> 00:10:40,503
Hey.

298
00:10:41,443 --> 00:10:42,543
This is a PG show.

299
00:10:43,593 --> 00:10:44,013
All right.

300
00:10:44,053 --> 00:10:44,893
Next question.

301
00:10:45,083 --> 00:10:45,393
Go.

302
00:10:45,803 --> 00:10:47,823
Is there a wrong way to eat a pussy?

303
00:10:47,903 --> 00:10:48,453
Yes.

304
00:10:48,663 --> 00:10:49,173
Yeah?

305
00:10:50,023 --> 00:10:50,403
Tell me.

306
00:10:50,603 --> 00:10:50,933
Yes.

307
00:10:51,513 --> 00:10:51,893
Um,

308
00:10:55,127 --> 00:10:57,681
Okay, guys I have two
fingers up right now.

309
00:10:59,361 --> 00:11:01,941
This are the lips.

310
00:11:03,301 --> 00:11:04,301
You spread.

311
00:11:05,891 --> 00:11:07,481
You find the little man on the boat.

312
00:11:08,241 --> 00:11:09,051
He's there.

313
00:11:09,831 --> 00:11:10,971
Takes him a little while, though.

314
00:11:11,331 --> 00:11:12,451
Takes him a little while to come out.

315
00:11:12,651 --> 00:11:13,361
He's a little shy.

316
00:11:13,541 --> 00:11:13,841
Is he?

317
00:11:13,921 --> 00:11:15,311
He's like a groundhog-
Yeah … on the groundhog day?

318
00:11:15,311 --> 00:11:17,571
So you're gonna have to put some
effort in there and kind of push.

319
00:11:17,571 --> 00:11:19,421
And when he comes out,
six more weeks of winter.

320
00:11:19,471 --> 00:11:19,821
There you go.

321
00:11:20,921 --> 00:11:21,411
Push.

322
00:11:21,831 --> 00:11:22,291
Move.

323
00:11:22,971 --> 00:11:23,641
That's where it's at.

324
00:11:24,191 --> 00:11:25,741
Slowly, Nick.

325
00:11:25,921 --> 00:11:26,651
Slowly.

326
00:11:27,831 --> 00:11:33,541
Don't chomp like it is a burger
you haven't eaten in forever.

327
00:11:34,001 --> 00:11:36,501
Like… No, don't use your teeth.

328
00:11:37,841 --> 00:11:42,871
It's really more of a… As for men, it's
a, it's a very lick and suction action.

329
00:11:43,001 --> 00:11:49,181
And for women, it's a very lick action
until the little man on the boat appears.

330
00:11:49,251 --> 00:11:49,711
Uh-huh.

331
00:11:49,771 --> 00:11:53,731
And then it's a more flicky, flicky,
sucky, sucky, flicky, flicky.

332
00:11:53,731 --> 00:11:55,131
Flicky, flicky?

333
00:11:55,141 --> 00:11:56,061
Yeah Like with the finger?

334
00:11:56,371 --> 00:11:56,751
Oh, okay.

335
00:11:56,951 --> 00:11:57,381
Yeah.

336
00:11:57,611 --> 00:12:01,231
I thought you meant like flick, flick- No
… like they do with their nipples, you know?

337
00:12:02,191 --> 00:12:03,731
Oh, you're talking flick with the tongue.

338
00:12:03,811 --> 00:12:04,701
You need to stop.

339
00:12:04,731 --> 00:12:05,041
Yeah.

340
00:12:05,201 --> 00:12:05,291
Stop.

341
00:12:05,321 --> 00:12:06,441
Put that tongue back, man.

342
00:12:07,111 --> 00:12:07,981
There's a lot happening right there.

343
00:12:08,951 --> 00:12:09,321
Yeah.

344
00:12:09,361 --> 00:12:12,711
It's, um… So yes, there is.

345
00:12:13,921 --> 00:12:17,731
I haven't had a lot of,
um… I'm lying to you.

346
00:12:19,051 --> 00:12:20,921
I've had men and women do it wrong.

347
00:12:21,321 --> 00:12:21,591
Yeah.

348
00:12:22,111 --> 00:12:26,871
But I don't think I was very
vocal about what I like.

349
00:12:27,981 --> 00:12:34,021
Again, men, ask or don't assume because
you've been with your partner, your

350
00:12:34,031 --> 00:12:36,941
primary partner for so long, your…

351
00:12:36,961 --> 00:12:39,371
You have m- um, muscle memory, right?

352
00:12:39,371 --> 00:12:41,231
So, like, you do the same thing.

353
00:12:42,551 --> 00:12:44,451
Doesn't work for everybody.

354
00:12:44,671 --> 00:12:47,621
I am not your partner.

355
00:12:48,681 --> 00:12:49,781
I am very different.

356
00:12:49,801 --> 00:12:53,821
I guarantee you everybody that
you've been with is very different.

357
00:12:53,891 --> 00:13:00,081
And I feel like you have to ask,
like, "Do you like this?" Nobody asks.

358
00:13:01,091 --> 00:13:01,661
Nobody asks.

359
00:13:01,881 --> 00:13:02,431
Nobody asks.

360
00:13:02,451 --> 00:13:04,511
Like, in the middle of it you
can be like, "Do you like that?"

361
00:13:04,511 --> 00:13:10,161
And I'd be like, "No, I don't like that."
So if a guy's in between your legs, he's

362
00:13:10,161 --> 00:13:14,021
just starting to do the swirl, and he pops
his head up and goes, "Hey, sweetheart,

363
00:13:14,031 --> 00:13:17,521
what, how do you want me to eat your
pussy?" What are you gonna tell him?

364
00:13:18,291 --> 00:13:18,731
Um.

365
00:13:18,991 --> 00:13:19,831
You're laying there.

366
00:13:19,861 --> 00:13:20,171
Yeah.

367
00:13:20,331 --> 00:13:21,311
You're in the middle of everything.

368
00:13:21,341 --> 00:13:22,561
I would tell him- Literally,
what are you gonna say?

369
00:13:22,571 --> 00:13:25,721
I would be like, "Okay, what
you're doing is fine, but go a

370
00:13:25,971 --> 00:13:27,671
little bit more north." Gotcha.

371
00:13:27,751 --> 00:13:28,101
Yeah.

372
00:13:28,421 --> 00:13:28,661
Yeah.

373
00:13:28,671 --> 00:13:29,411
Stop fingering.

374
00:13:29,821 --> 00:13:30,391
I don't like that.

375
00:13:30,541 --> 00:13:34,591
Now, you don't like a, a finger
penetration or two- I do- … while

376
00:13:34,591 --> 00:13:35,471
you're getting eaten out?

377
00:13:35,471 --> 00:13:40,721
I do with… If you're, if certain
people, um, and you're doing it right.

378
00:13:41,841 --> 00:13:46,849
But- Don't… There's no- Yeah

379
00:13:46,889 --> 00:13:48,089
don't finger bang me.

380
00:13:48,159 --> 00:13:50,009
Who the fuck likes finger banging?

381
00:13:50,019 --> 00:13:54,039
You know, it's in- Drunk women … every
s- Drunk women lo- Every porn … drunk

382
00:13:54,049 --> 00:13:56,919
women- Yeah … I will s- I have
seen them thousands of times.

383
00:13:56,929 --> 00:13:58,799
Drunk women love that.

384
00:13:58,879 --> 00:13:59,299
Really?

385
00:13:59,419 --> 00:14:02,419
And it's a thing for them because then
they start squirting and all that stuff.

386
00:14:02,459 --> 00:14:03,419
Let me tell you, that's pee.

387
00:14:05,429 --> 00:14:05,609
Jesus.

388
00:14:05,899 --> 00:14:06,329
But yeah.

389
00:14:06,429 --> 00:14:06,689
No.

390
00:14:07,309 --> 00:14:07,939
I don't like that.

391
00:14:07,979 --> 00:14:14,289
I don't like… I'm, I'm a very delicate
flower- … until I have bloomed, and when

392
00:14:14,289 --> 00:14:16,849
I bloom, then we can go to pound town.

393
00:14:17,239 --> 00:14:17,419
Yeah.

394
00:14:18,719 --> 00:14:19,929
I like the way you put that.

395
00:14:19,949 --> 00:14:20,419
That's good.

396
00:14:20,419 --> 00:14:21,659
I'm a delicate little flower.

397
00:14:21,659 --> 00:14:22,869
Delicate little flower, huh?

398
00:14:22,949 --> 00:14:23,089
Yeah.

399
00:14:23,369 --> 00:14:29,469
Now, uh, during that whole session,
w- what's your take on incorporating

400
00:14:29,469 --> 00:14:30,749
a little bit of anal play?

401
00:14:30,769 --> 00:14:31,289
No.

402
00:14:31,609 --> 00:14:34,009
Or, uh- I will kick you … a
tongue, a tongue just a little

403
00:14:34,009 --> 00:14:36,729
bit further down, maybe- No.

404
00:14:37,399 --> 00:14:39,599
… around, just around the O-ring.

405
00:14:39,599 --> 00:14:39,809
No.

406
00:14:39,809 --> 00:14:40,289
No.

407
00:14:40,319 --> 00:14:40,679
No?

408
00:14:40,749 --> 00:14:42,339
Do not go back there.

409
00:14:42,419 --> 00:14:44,309
No, no- It is so uncomfortable
for me … no munching the,

410
00:14:44,309 --> 00:14:45,779
uh, the chocolate starfish?

411
00:14:45,779 --> 00:14:45,969
No.

412
00:14:45,969 --> 00:14:46,169
No?

413
00:14:46,169 --> 00:14:46,329
You know what I… Ugh.

414
00:14:46,329 --> 00:14:46,779
Ew.

415
00:14:47,659 --> 00:14:47,679
You

416
00:14:49,719 --> 00:14:51,859
know what else I don't,
I don't really care for?

417
00:14:51,889 --> 00:14:55,219
I won't sit on anybody's face
un- unless I really know them.

418
00:14:56,179 --> 00:14:58,889
So I don't like anybody going behind me.

419
00:14:59,039 --> 00:14:59,449
Uh-huh.

420
00:14:59,959 --> 00:15:00,503
And eating me out.

421
00:15:00,503 --> 00:15:01,049
And eating you from the back?

422
00:15:01,079 --> 00:15:02,789
That is not comfortable for me.

423
00:15:02,789 --> 00:15:05,549
Because then their, their
nose is inside your asshole.

424
00:15:05,569 --> 00:15:06,339
Yeah.

425
00:15:06,679 --> 00:15:07,099
Yeah.

426
00:15:07,319 --> 00:15:11,759
Which, I mean, we know what that area is.

427
00:15:12,289 --> 00:15:14,119
It's a little chocolate starfish.

428
00:15:14,119 --> 00:15:14,549
Chocolate starfish.

429
00:15:14,699 --> 00:15:16,359
That I just said I don't like touched.

430
00:15:16,369 --> 00:15:16,929
That's right.

431
00:15:17,029 --> 00:15:17,819
Um, yeah, no.

432
00:15:17,819 --> 00:15:17,862
That's right.

433
00:15:17,862 --> 00:15:17,949
I don't like that.

434
00:15:17,949 --> 00:15:19,459
That's your DQ Dilly Bar.

435
00:15:19,679 --> 00:15:21,429
Y- Yes.

436
00:15:21,879 --> 00:15:21,899
Yeah.

437
00:15:22,609 --> 00:15:23,519
You can do that.

438
00:15:24,149 --> 00:15:24,629
Uh, yeah.

439
00:15:24,629 --> 00:15:26,029
And y- well, you know, and I have.

440
00:15:26,309 --> 00:15:30,219
I remember when we first got together,
you, you liked a little bit of a massaging

441
00:15:30,219 --> 00:15:32,229
of the, uh, the ass- With you, yeah

442
00:15:32,259 --> 00:15:33,189
when we would have sex.

443
00:15:33,299 --> 00:15:33,599
Yeah.

444
00:15:33,749 --> 00:15:35,469
You treat me like a
little delicate flower.

445
00:15:35,469 --> 00:15:37,399
I do treat you well, and then
I treat you like a whore.

446
00:15:37,499 --> 00:15:37,709
Yeah.

447
00:15:38,009 --> 00:15:38,309
Yeah.

448
00:15:38,779 --> 00:15:40,165
And then we both- Whore … come
and then we go to sleep.

449
00:15:40,165 --> 00:15:41,499
And we go to sl- like, we just did.

450
00:15:41,539 --> 00:15:41,949
Yeah.

451
00:15:41,949 --> 00:15:43,609
We took, we took the best nap.

452
00:15:43,619 --> 00:15:44,049
Yeah.

453
00:15:44,119 --> 00:15:44,499
Yeah.

454
00:15:44,709 --> 00:15:51,631
Um, I mean, I, h- like you,
do you- On oral, what don't…

455
00:15:53,011 --> 00:15:57,651
Well, first of all, this man will not
stop you if you're doing it incorrectly.

456
00:15:58,101 --> 00:16:01,691
I will Yeah, no, I won't And then
he's- I'll just deal with it … and

457
00:16:01,691 --> 00:16:05,261
then he's gotten up and he's been
like, "That was a lot of teeth."

458
00:16:05,321 --> 00:16:06,691
I was like, "Ooh." Oh, yeah.

459
00:16:07,561 --> 00:16:09,711
Be like, "I think I'm
done for the night." Yeah.

460
00:16:09,711 --> 00:16:10,751
And be chafing.

461
00:16:10,791 --> 00:16:13,171
I think you… I think
everybody should be more vocal.

462
00:16:13,721 --> 00:16:16,331
I think people should really
t- say what they like and what

463
00:16:16,331 --> 00:16:20,971
they don't like, because the
experience is not going to be fun.

464
00:16:21,511 --> 00:16:22,831
And I think it's okay.

465
00:16:23,031 --> 00:16:24,971
I really do think it's okay.

466
00:16:25,121 --> 00:16:28,271
I mean, like, when I'm with women, I'm
not… I haven't been with a lot of

467
00:16:28,271 --> 00:16:35,111
women, so I stop and I'm like, "Do you
like that?" Like, "How do you like it?"

468
00:16:35,561 --> 00:16:35,891
Yeah.

469
00:16:35,921 --> 00:16:36,481
You know?

470
00:16:36,511 --> 00:16:44,891
I mean, I feel like you really should ask
because it's important for satisfaction.

471
00:16:45,161 --> 00:16:45,471
Yeah.

472
00:16:46,081 --> 00:16:51,571
But some men are very selfish.

473
00:16:51,951 --> 00:16:52,251
Yeah?

474
00:16:52,261 --> 00:16:52,671
How so?

475
00:16:53,091 --> 00:16:53,721
They don't ask.

476
00:16:54,161 --> 00:16:54,741
They just do it.

477
00:16:54,741 --> 00:17:00,041
It's just their thing, and it's like,
"No. No, sir." I know a lot of men who

478
00:17:00,041 --> 00:17:02,321
pride themselves on being a great eater.

479
00:17:02,331 --> 00:17:04,661
Yeah, but- Like, there's a lot of
men who are like- Who have they a-

480
00:17:04,661 --> 00:17:07,841
"I can, I can eat pussy better than a
woman can" How have they asked- Right,

481
00:17:07,841 --> 00:17:08,721
right … the person that they're with?

482
00:17:08,971 --> 00:17:10,451
Where's your trophy case?

483
00:17:10,801 --> 00:17:14,591
Or like, yeah, look, I'm really good
at that, and then I kiss them, like

484
00:17:14,591 --> 00:17:17,531
just regular kiss, and I'm like,
"Oh, I can't imagine what you do."

485
00:17:17,921 --> 00:17:22,831
But see, that's why I'm, I'm always
like, I try not to say shit like that.

486
00:17:23,191 --> 00:17:23,421
Yeah.

487
00:17:23,691 --> 00:17:26,671
Because- But I'm your wife … I am a
good eater I'm your wife, and I will

488
00:17:26,671 --> 00:17:29,271
tell you if you are doing it incorrectly.

489
00:17:29,301 --> 00:17:34,351
Yeah, but you also assume that most
people who are married, the wife

490
00:17:34,351 --> 00:17:36,971
would tell the husband when they're
bad- Yes … at stuff, and we

491
00:17:36,971 --> 00:17:38,571
realize now that that's not the case.

492
00:17:38,581 --> 00:17:39,101
It's a no.

493
00:17:39,101 --> 00:17:42,311
There are men who are bad, bad
kissers and you're like- Yeah

494
00:17:42,391 --> 00:17:46,141
why doesn't the wife tell him, "Hey,
that you're not kissing good." Yeah.

495
00:17:46,151 --> 00:17:46,921
You know, stuff like that.

496
00:17:47,091 --> 00:17:47,151
Yeah.

497
00:17:47,591 --> 00:17:52,601
Like, I… it just, just sometimes it's
just accepted as- Yeah … what it is.

498
00:17:52,601 --> 00:17:52,851
Yeah.

499
00:17:53,211 --> 00:17:55,661
And they're like, "I'm not
gonna rock the boat." Mm-hmm.

500
00:17:55,751 --> 00:17:58,321
"He's gonna lick my face."
You know what I mean?

501
00:17:58,411 --> 00:18:00,571
Like- Yeah … that's just how it is.

502
00:18:01,031 --> 00:18:05,811
Um, you know, when it comes to
oral for me, yeah, you know,

503
00:18:05,811 --> 00:18:07,921
obviously I'm not a teeth-y person.

504
00:18:08,221 --> 00:18:11,991
I'm also not one of those that
cares for the woman to go head

505
00:18:12,461 --> 00:18:15,811
up and down real fast, just the
wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah.

506
00:18:15,811 --> 00:18:16,491
You know what I'm saying?

507
00:18:16,491 --> 00:18:18,901
Like- Yeah … like that's,
I've seen that in porn, but

508
00:18:18,901 --> 00:18:20,321
I've also seen that at the club.

509
00:18:20,601 --> 00:18:20,771
Yes.

510
00:18:20,791 --> 00:18:26,231
Uh, women who will… It, it's
like a, I don't know, it's almost

511
00:18:26,231 --> 00:18:27,831
like an automatic washing machine.

512
00:18:27,831 --> 00:18:31,321
It's just this head is just bobbing
up and down, and you can see there's

513
00:18:31,321 --> 00:18:34,581
a good vacuum going on, and it's just
whack, whack, whack, whack, whack.

514
00:18:35,001 --> 00:18:37,361
And I'm like, gosh, that
just looks uncomfortable.

515
00:18:37,611 --> 00:18:37,941
I don't know.

516
00:18:37,941 --> 00:18:41,371
I'm a, I'm a s- a low and slow kinda guy.

517
00:18:41,461 --> 00:18:41,931
You are low and slow.

518
00:18:41,981 --> 00:18:42,951
Uh, I like- I am, too.

519
00:18:43,021 --> 00:18:43,971
I- I like it sloppy.

520
00:18:44,121 --> 00:18:45,861
I, I, yeah.

521
00:18:46,021 --> 00:18:46,331
Yeah.

522
00:18:46,551 --> 00:18:47,081
I don't

523
00:18:49,215 --> 00:18:54,125
I'm not really, like, don't, don't munch
on, on me like you're gonna … Like

524
00:18:54,125 --> 00:18:57,185
it's something that you've just
never eaten before and it's amazing.

525
00:18:57,185 --> 00:18:59,355
Like, it's like, "Ar, you
just wanna devour it." Yeah.

526
00:18:59,455 --> 00:18:59,805
No.

527
00:19:00,125 --> 00:19:02,415
That's not … I love low and slow.

528
00:19:02,455 --> 00:19:02,775
Yeah?

529
00:19:02,915 --> 00:19:03,245
Mm-hmm.

530
00:19:03,505 --> 00:19:05,005
Okay, controversial topic.

531
00:19:05,225 --> 00:19:05,885
Spitting.

532
00:19:06,305 --> 00:19:06,925
Nope.

533
00:19:07,005 --> 00:19:08,395
Spitting on the pussy while eating.

534
00:19:08,745 --> 00:19:10,755
I've had it done and I
think it's disgusting.

535
00:19:11,035 --> 00:19:16,705
You know, I have had a woman spit on my
dick while su- you know, while sucking it.

536
00:19:16,715 --> 00:19:16,735
Yeah.

537
00:19:17,255 --> 00:19:18,135
I thought it was kinda hot.

538
00:19:18,135 --> 00:19:18,395
Yeah.

539
00:19:19,015 --> 00:19:20,165
I mean, I do it to you.

540
00:19:20,615 --> 00:19:21,005
Yeah.

541
00:19:21,005 --> 00:19:21,075
Yeah.

542
00:19:21,075 --> 00:19:22,685
Yeah, but there was, there was a- It's-

543
00:19:22,695 --> 00:19:23,995
a couple that we played with.

544
00:19:24,045 --> 00:19:24,405
Yeah.

545
00:19:24,575 --> 00:19:27,005
And the woman was skiing.

546
00:19:27,925 --> 00:19:28,115
Yes.

547
00:19:28,215 --> 00:19:30,535
So I was on one side and then
her dude was on the other.

548
00:19:30,545 --> 00:19:30,565
Yeah.

549
00:19:30,945 --> 00:19:34,455
And yeah, she just immediately
was, like, spitting and then

550
00:19:34,455 --> 00:19:35,465
sucking and doing… Yeah.

551
00:19:35,465 --> 00:19:37,795
And I was like, "Oh, wow." That's okay.

552
00:19:37,845 --> 00:19:38,775
That was, that was hot.

553
00:19:39,215 --> 00:19:39,385
Yeah.

554
00:19:39,515 --> 00:19:43,245
I don't have enough spit for that,
but I don't like being spit on, like-

555
00:19:43,275 --> 00:19:44,965
Even if they're going down on you
and they're spitting on your dick?

556
00:19:44,965 --> 00:19:46,125
I don't like the sound of it.

557
00:19:46,205 --> 00:19:46,635
Really?

558
00:19:47,725 --> 00:19:48,465
I don't like that ptt, ptt.

559
00:19:48,705 --> 00:19:51,295
Well, so I understand to an
extent, because I don't care for

560
00:19:51,295 --> 00:19:53,385
the, the gagging during oral.

561
00:19:53,385 --> 00:19:53,745
Yeah.

562
00:19:53,785 --> 00:19:54,655
I don't like the gagging.

563
00:19:54,695 --> 00:19:54,715
No.

564
00:19:54,965 --> 00:19:58,045
Only because- Accidental
gagging- … I associate gagging-

565
00:19:58,055 --> 00:19:59,565
With vomiting … with grossness.

566
00:19:59,655 --> 00:20:02,281
Yeah, but accidental- So it's like, "What?

567
00:20:02,281 --> 00:20:02,952
What did I smell?" You know?

568
00:20:02,952 --> 00:20:04,465
… accidental, accidental gagging is okay.

569
00:20:04,915 --> 00:20:05,185
Yeah.

570
00:20:05,215 --> 00:20:09,815
But there's some women who, like,
they want to gag on it, like Yeah.

571
00:20:09,815 --> 00:20:10,935
No, I don't care for that.

572
00:20:10,995 --> 00:20:11,125
Yeah.

573
00:20:11,355 --> 00:20:16,245
Um, I, I really, I really asso- I
associate gagging with being grossed out.

574
00:20:16,305 --> 00:20:16,615
Yeah.

575
00:20:16,745 --> 00:20:18,475
And I associate spitting with noogies.

576
00:20:20,725 --> 00:20:20,765
Really?

577
00:20:20,765 --> 00:20:21,215
Noogies?

578
00:20:21,555 --> 00:20:22,275
Loogies.

579
00:20:22,535 --> 00:20:23,195
Loogies.

580
00:20:23,265 --> 00:20:25,475
Noogies is when they- Oh, that's
right … rub their fist in your head.

581
00:20:25,475 --> 00:20:26,495
Loo-, like blah.

582
00:20:28,795 --> 00:20:34,015
Like, there's this one person,
and they spit, and when they spit-

583
00:20:37,205 --> 00:20:39,645
It looks gross and I try not to see it.

584
00:20:40,305 --> 00:20:41,275
It looks gross.

585
00:20:41,305 --> 00:20:44,725
I mean, to a man it probably looks
super-duper hot, but it looks

586
00:20:44,755 --> 00:20:46,705
gross to me and it's like, God.

587
00:20:47,925 --> 00:20:51,505
So then when a woman is,
is going down on a man.

588
00:20:51,515 --> 00:20:54,255
Say, say we've got a
couple swap going on, okay?

589
00:20:54,645 --> 00:20:59,555
And the woman is with me and she's
sucking my dick and it's, it is wet.

590
00:20:59,595 --> 00:21:05,415
Like it is… She's- Yeah … very
sloppy with it and she's got like saliva

591
00:21:05,435 --> 00:21:06,515
coming down her chin and shit like that.

592
00:21:06,515 --> 00:21:06,745
Yeah.

593
00:21:06,895 --> 00:21:10,895
It's like, it's she's in- Yeah
… immersive in it, and she comes

594
00:21:10,895 --> 00:21:12,165
up to you and makes out with you.

595
00:21:12,175 --> 00:21:12,205
Nope.

596
00:21:12,205 --> 00:21:12,995
You're gonna be grossed out?

597
00:21:12,995 --> 00:21:13,235
Yes.

598
00:21:13,235 --> 00:21:15,305
You're gonna be like, "No, no,
no. You gotta get a towel first."

599
00:21:15,315 --> 00:21:15,425
Yes.

600
00:21:15,615 --> 00:21:15,995
Really?

601
00:21:16,035 --> 00:21:17,385
Oh, and then if I'm gonna-
Even if it's your man.

602
00:21:17,415 --> 00:21:20,505
And then if I'm gonna go down on
you right after her, I'm wiping you.

603
00:21:20,555 --> 00:21:21,065
No shit.

604
00:21:21,095 --> 00:21:21,345
Yes.

605
00:21:21,375 --> 00:21:22,135
It's gross.

606
00:21:22,415 --> 00:21:22,625
Wow.

607
00:21:22,715 --> 00:21:23,385
It's not okay.

608
00:21:23,395 --> 00:21:24,835
I get it, sloppy seconds.

609
00:21:25,615 --> 00:21:25,995
Woo, hot.

610
00:21:26,675 --> 00:21:29,865
Um, I'm just pickier.

611
00:21:31,575 --> 00:21:32,555
You're such a dork.

612
00:21:34,705 --> 00:21:40,065
So is biting ever okay when it's
someone that isn't your primary partner?

613
00:21:42,621 --> 00:21:44,441
No No?

614
00:21:44,481 --> 00:21:45,391
What are you gonna bite?

615
00:21:46,661 --> 00:21:47,551
You tell me.

616
00:21:48,001 --> 00:21:49,131
I mean, people bite.

617
00:21:49,251 --> 00:21:53,431
There's people… I've, I have talked to
people who are like, "I like to bite." No.

618
00:21:53,791 --> 00:21:54,351
Like, I've heard that.

619
00:21:54,351 --> 00:21:55,301
And don't bite my man.

620
00:21:55,331 --> 00:21:57,461
I've heard that a lot
from, from people before.

621
00:21:57,561 --> 00:21:58,041
Oh my God.

622
00:21:58,041 --> 00:21:59,281
I've seen it written I
would be so obsessed.

623
00:21:59,281 --> 00:22:00,111
Not towards me.

624
00:22:00,111 --> 00:22:00,371
Yeah.

625
00:22:00,371 --> 00:22:01,361
So settle down, all right?

626
00:22:01,661 --> 00:22:02,571
It's like, what, like- I've just
seen it in comments and things.

627
00:22:02,571 --> 00:22:03,761
No, no.

628
00:22:03,761 --> 00:22:09,191
Like, like, like a little nipple,
like a little, mm, is nice, but no.

629
00:22:10,651 --> 00:22:11,511
I've seen people bite.

630
00:22:12,311 --> 00:22:12,851
Yeah, no.

631
00:22:13,001 --> 00:22:13,341
Yeah.

632
00:22:13,921 --> 00:22:15,531
I've seen- They bite and they
scratch … yeah, I've seen people bite.

633
00:22:15,561 --> 00:22:18,021
I've seen people show up with bite marks.

634
00:22:18,031 --> 00:22:18,551
No.

635
00:22:18,651 --> 00:22:21,811
People have been like, "Oh, I had a
play session last night, and look, I've

636
00:22:21,811 --> 00:22:23,016
got all these bite marks," and stuff.

637
00:22:23,016 --> 00:22:24,281
And you, you know, that's-
What are you, a vampire?

638
00:22:24,711 --> 00:22:27,131
Some people dig that sort
of thing, man That's good.

639
00:22:27,131 --> 00:22:28,571
Good for you, but don't- You can't
yuck anybody's yum I don't like

640
00:22:28,571 --> 00:22:30,871
it But for us- No … it's a no.

641
00:22:32,271 --> 00:22:32,611
No.

642
00:22:32,781 --> 00:22:35,471
Like, I don't mind teeth around my nipple.

643
00:22:35,561 --> 00:22:35,871
Mm-hmm.

644
00:22:35,881 --> 00:22:38,201
But, like, the way you
do it, it's very light.

645
00:22:38,391 --> 00:22:38,691
Yeah.

646
00:22:39,071 --> 00:22:40,161
It doesn't, it doesn't hurt.

647
00:22:40,311 --> 00:22:40,611
Mm-hmm.

648
00:22:40,681 --> 00:22:40,971
Yeah.

649
00:22:41,211 --> 00:22:42,301
Yeah, that's more nibbling.

650
00:22:42,471 --> 00:22:42,741
Yeah.

651
00:22:42,741 --> 00:22:42,941
Yeah.

652
00:22:42,951 --> 00:22:43,571
I like the nibbling.

653
00:22:43,811 --> 00:22:45,341
So nibbling is okay.

654
00:22:45,491 --> 00:22:45,781
Don't bite.

655
00:22:45,781 --> 00:22:48,131
But only from your spouse,
or just from anybody?

656
00:22:48,131 --> 00:22:48,181
No, I don't care.

657
00:22:48,181 --> 00:22:48,291
Yeah.

658
00:22:48,361 --> 00:22:50,131
So nibbling from anybody's okay.

659
00:22:50,161 --> 00:22:50,621
Yeah, yeah.

660
00:22:50,621 --> 00:22:51,501
But biting.

661
00:22:51,551 --> 00:22:52,331
Don't bite me.

662
00:22:52,351 --> 00:22:52,971
Don't bite.

663
00:22:53,531 --> 00:22:54,971
Don't bite, Mike Tyson.

664
00:22:55,051 --> 00:22:55,871
Don't bite me.

665
00:22:55,871 --> 00:22:56,791
No biting.

666
00:22:57,121 --> 00:22:58,941
It's a re- I'll have a reaction, I think.

667
00:23:02,721 --> 00:23:07,751
Yeah, I think the, uh, the key is to,
uh, keep it sexual- Yeah … and not

668
00:23:07,761 --> 00:23:09,871
inspire triggering feelings, right?

669
00:23:09,931 --> 00:23:10,871
Exactly.

670
00:23:11,211 --> 00:23:17,131
But I'm, I… You know, I, we have met…
So this is more for newbies who are coming

671
00:23:17,131 --> 00:23:19,191
into the lifestyle who don't really know.

672
00:23:19,521 --> 00:23:22,801
I know that there's a lot of people out
there who are… They're used to, like

673
00:23:22,801 --> 00:23:24,029
you said, doing things with their partner.

674
00:23:24,029 --> 00:23:24,831
You're used to your… Yeah.

675
00:23:25,111 --> 00:23:28,781
And that doesn't carry over to a-
No … first time play partner.

676
00:23:28,791 --> 00:23:30,081
Like, you can't do that stuff.

677
00:23:30,151 --> 00:23:30,731
You can't.

678
00:23:30,781 --> 00:23:31,811
And it's also-

679
00:23:34,109 --> 00:23:39,579
You should be okay and be comfortable
enough to tell, ask these people,

680
00:23:39,589 --> 00:23:43,179
like, uh, as a person, like, you
should be able to say, "Hey, by

681
00:23:43,179 --> 00:23:47,879
the way, when we play, I don't like
A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K."

682
00:23:47,889 --> 00:23:47,909
Yeah.

683
00:23:48,139 --> 00:23:49,309
Like, I just don't like it.

684
00:23:49,699 --> 00:23:49,749
Yeah.

685
00:23:49,759 --> 00:23:53,539
Um, now these things can change.

686
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:54,869
Of course.

687
00:23:55,029 --> 00:23:55,389
You know?

688
00:23:55,389 --> 00:23:58,099
Like, if you're with a certain person
and it's like, ooh, that's fun,

689
00:23:58,379 --> 00:24:01,049
because, like, there's people I like
to sit on their face, but then there's

690
00:24:01,049 --> 00:24:02,739
people, like, I will not do that again.

691
00:24:02,959 --> 00:24:03,419
Yeah?

692
00:24:03,489 --> 00:24:03,849
Yeah.

693
00:24:04,409 --> 00:24:08,309
Now what, w- w- what, what would make
you say, "No, I won't do that again"?

694
00:24:08,809 --> 00:24:09,699
I didn't like it.

695
00:24:09,949 --> 00:24:10,199
Yeah.

696
00:24:10,619 --> 00:24:12,369
Just wasn't- I did not like it.

697
00:24:12,409 --> 00:24:13,779
Teeth, ar, ar, ar.

698
00:24:14,089 --> 00:24:14,559
Yeah.

699
00:24:14,959 --> 00:24:15,039
Ugh.

700
00:24:15,209 --> 00:24:17,599
And their face shape just didn't-
Yeah … work for my vagina.

701
00:24:17,979 --> 00:24:18,209
Yeah?

702
00:24:18,939 --> 00:24:21,229
And- Does face shape play a part in that?

703
00:24:21,229 --> 00:24:24,339
Do you think face shape would play
a part in, in, in how- No … you

704
00:24:24,339 --> 00:24:25,559
would sit on somebody's face?

705
00:24:25,789 --> 00:24:28,629
Like, if they have a wide face,
you'd have to spread a bit more.

706
00:24:28,709 --> 00:24:29,229
That's nice.

707
00:24:29,469 --> 00:24:32,369
But if they have a thin face- I'm
s- … then you can just let it

708
00:24:32,369 --> 00:24:34,199
kind of come in and- My thighs
are, thighs are soft … slap, slap

709
00:24:34,199 --> 00:24:35,519
their cheeks a few time, you know.

710
00:24:35,529 --> 00:24:35,879
Yeah.

711
00:24:36,029 --> 00:24:36,399
Yeah.

712
00:24:36,639 --> 00:24:36,959
Yeah.

713
00:24:36,999 --> 00:24:37,299
No.

714
00:24:37,589 --> 00:24:37,929
No.

715
00:24:37,939 --> 00:24:39,689
So face, face shape doesn't play a part.

716
00:24:39,699 --> 00:24:39,719
No.

717
00:24:39,849 --> 00:24:40,789
What about, like, chin?

718
00:24:41,019 --> 00:24:42,399
Chin and nose shape?

719
00:24:42,939 --> 00:24:44,669
I will say beard plays a part.

720
00:24:44,749 --> 00:24:45,619
Beard plays a part?

721
00:24:45,619 --> 00:24:45,919
Yeah.

722
00:24:45,919 --> 00:24:46,309
Yeah?

723
00:24:47,059 --> 00:24:47,429
Yeah.

724
00:24:47,579 --> 00:24:50,649
Full beard or, uh, mustache?

725
00:24:51,079 --> 00:24:52,189
Like, mustache ride?

726
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:52,779
Hmm.

727
00:24:53,219 --> 00:24:53,759
Or does it matter?

728
00:24:53,769 --> 00:24:54,119
That's hot.

729
00:24:55,299 --> 00:24:58,119
I think a full beard plays a part in some.

730
00:24:58,289 --> 00:24:58,659
Really?

731
00:24:58,739 --> 00:24:59,119
Yeah.

732
00:24:59,179 --> 00:24:59,429
Hmm.

733
00:24:59,869 --> 00:25:00,189
Yeah.

734
00:25:00,669 --> 00:25:01,179
Interesting.

735
00:25:01,849 --> 00:25:04,899
But, like, longer than yours plays a part.

736
00:25:04,989 --> 00:25:05,869
Longer than mine?

737
00:25:05,919 --> 00:25:06,299
Yeah.

738
00:25:06,299 --> 00:25:07,039
I'm talking ZZ Top.

739
00:25:07,049 --> 00:25:07,589
Like, this is perfect.

740
00:25:08,199 --> 00:25:08,679
Ah.

741
00:25:09,019 --> 00:25:09,259
Yeah.

742
00:25:09,269 --> 00:25:10,709
I like the way you grab it.

743
00:25:10,989 --> 00:25:11,409
I know.

744
00:25:12,249 --> 00:25:13,839
Women like to grab beards.

745
00:25:13,899 --> 00:25:14,049
Hmm.

746
00:25:14,079 --> 00:25:14,809
What's that about?

747
00:25:15,269 --> 00:25:16,249
It's just, I don't know.

748
00:25:17,539 --> 00:25:18,389
I mean, it's hot.

749
00:25:18,539 --> 00:25:18,999
Yeah.

750
00:25:18,999 --> 00:25:19,166
Yeah.

751
00:25:19,166 --> 00:25:20,449
I love to grab your beard.

752
00:25:20,669 --> 00:25:21,209
I know.

753
00:25:21,219 --> 00:25:21,769
And then I, like-

754
00:25:24,989 --> 00:25:25,729
Easy there, girl.

755
00:25:25,839 --> 00:25:27,779
We're about halfway through this show.

756
00:25:27,779 --> 00:25:31,359
You better just slow your roll
or we're gonna be taking a break.

757
00:25:31,999 --> 00:25:37,589
Okay, real quick before we get back into
it, we gotta talk about sdc.com Oh, yes.

758
00:25:37,689 --> 00:25:40,949
Okay, so if you don't know SDC,
it's basically the largest online

759
00:25:40,949 --> 00:25:44,939
community for open-minded adults
Which if you're listening to this show

760
00:25:44,939 --> 00:25:49,279
right now, I feel like you probably
already know if that's your scene.

761
00:25:49,639 --> 00:25:49,919
Yeah.

762
00:25:49,939 --> 00:25:51,859
It's your people all in one place.

763
00:25:52,199 --> 00:25:56,869
Just make a profile and go explore
No weirdness, no judgment, just

764
00:25:56,869 --> 00:26:00,409
a ton of like-minded humans
living their lives, just like us.

765
00:26:00,589 --> 00:26:03,399
Honestly, it's kinda fun just to
poke around Yeah, it really is.

766
00:26:03,599 --> 00:26:05,829
Go sign up at sdc.com.

767
00:26:06,039 --> 00:26:07,469
Use code 38236.

768
00:26:07,559 --> 00:26:10,169
Link's in the show notes.

769
00:26:10,209 --> 00:26:11,899
Okay, now back to what we were saying.

770
00:26:12,079 --> 00:26:12,499
Yes

771
00:26:13,066 --> 00:26:13,416
Okay.

772
00:26:14,406 --> 00:26:14,546
Woo.

773
00:26:15,456 --> 00:26:15,906
That was hot.

774
00:26:15,946 --> 00:26:18,966
Okay, so biting is not okay.

775
00:26:19,046 --> 00:26:19,536
Not okay.

776
00:26:19,716 --> 00:26:21,996
Unless you've discussed it
ahead of time- Yeah … and it's

777
00:26:22,006 --> 00:26:22,646
something that you all agree on.

778
00:26:22,646 --> 00:26:23,186
Nibbles.

779
00:26:23,246 --> 00:26:25,226
Uh, first of all, don't assume people.

780
00:26:25,796 --> 00:26:26,296
Yeah, don't assume.

781
00:26:26,296 --> 00:26:27,436
And spanking of the ass.

782
00:26:28,756 --> 00:26:29,996
So that's a big one there.

783
00:26:29,996 --> 00:26:33,356
That's a big… 'Cause people assume
that that's- I, I do not like pain,

784
00:26:33,366 --> 00:26:36,216
and I've had guys, like, had me
from behind and they're like, slap.

785
00:26:37,436 --> 00:26:38,346
It's good

786
00:26:40,408 --> 00:26:45,548
If the action's being done in, like
if you're in me and you feel good and

787
00:26:45,548 --> 00:26:47,018
you spank me, it's gonna feel good.

788
00:26:47,058 --> 00:26:52,238
But don't swat me like… These
guys are doing it for the ver- the

789
00:26:52,248 --> 00:26:55,088
vibration of it or the, what do
you call it when the booty bounce?

790
00:26:55,088 --> 00:26:55,898
The reverb.

791
00:26:55,928 --> 00:26:56,348
Reverb.

792
00:26:56,408 --> 00:26:56,798
Yeah.

793
00:26:57,418 --> 00:26:58,088
And that's fine.

794
00:26:58,248 --> 00:26:59,468
There's a certain spank.

795
00:26:59,848 --> 00:27:02,968
But when it's like,
wa-pah, like for pain, no.

796
00:27:03,068 --> 00:27:04,998
I will beat your fucking ass.

797
00:27:05,068 --> 00:27:05,738
Yeah.

798
00:27:05,838 --> 00:27:09,558
You hurt me, and I'm gonna beat you.

799
00:27:09,578 --> 00:27:13,018
You know, I'm not even that comfortable
slapping your ass in some occasions.

800
00:27:13,218 --> 00:27:13,548
I know.

801
00:27:13,758 --> 00:27:16,678
Um- Yeah, no you don't … it
is a slappable ass.

802
00:27:16,828 --> 00:27:17,148
Yeah.

803
00:27:17,298 --> 00:27:20,928
But at the same time I'm like, "I
don't wanna trigger you." Yeah.

804
00:27:20,928 --> 00:27:22,258
I ain't trying to get my ass beat.

805
00:27:22,258 --> 00:27:22,488
Yeah.

806
00:27:23,068 --> 00:27:26,058
But yeah, you know, there's
been, there's apparently a right

807
00:27:26,058 --> 00:27:27,338
way and a wrong way to do it.

808
00:27:27,438 --> 00:27:27,788
Mm-hmm.

809
00:27:27,818 --> 00:27:31,868
You have been slapped the wrong
way- Mm-hmm … and had it triggered

810
00:27:31,868 --> 00:27:33,368
you, by both men and women.

811
00:27:33,998 --> 00:27:34,238
Yeah.

812
00:27:34,318 --> 00:27:37,888
Um, but there was one person
that slapped your ass just

813
00:27:37,888 --> 00:27:39,278
right, and you really liked it.

814
00:27:39,748 --> 00:27:40,248
Yes.

815
00:27:40,808 --> 00:27:41,308
Well-

816
00:27:43,876 --> 00:27:45,716
Two people have so far Yeah?

817
00:27:45,786 --> 00:27:46,206
Yeah.

818
00:27:46,476 --> 00:27:47,886
And what was it that they did?

819
00:27:47,946 --> 00:27:49,356
The, they did it perfect.

820
00:27:49,446 --> 00:27:49,726
Yeah.

821
00:27:49,776 --> 00:27:51,046
Like Bestie does it great.

822
00:27:51,136 --> 00:27:51,426
Yeah.

823
00:27:51,586 --> 00:27:52,016
Uh-huh.

824
00:27:52,256 --> 00:27:53,626
And then the other person does it perfect.

825
00:27:53,656 --> 00:27:54,426
Like, it's just perfect.

826
00:27:54,426 --> 00:27:54,456
Yeah.

827
00:27:54,456 --> 00:27:55,236
Like the way you do it.

828
00:27:55,246 --> 00:27:58,466
Like, it's not… It's just
for, it's for the reverb.

829
00:27:58,476 --> 00:27:58,496
Yeah.

830
00:27:58,506 --> 00:28:00,916
It's not, it's not for the pain.

831
00:28:00,926 --> 00:28:01,586
Right.

832
00:28:01,636 --> 00:28:04,406
So that's a different… It's
a, it's a very subtle, but

833
00:28:04,406 --> 00:28:08,076
still you can hear the… Yeah.

834
00:28:08,516 --> 00:28:08,836
Yeah.

835
00:28:09,406 --> 00:28:14,786
Now, playing with somebody for the first
time, is, is light choking ever okay?

836
00:28:14,796 --> 00:28:15,206
No.

837
00:28:15,916 --> 00:28:16,166
No.

838
00:28:16,986 --> 00:28:17,286
No.

839
00:28:18,446 --> 00:28:20,426
Playing with somebody for the first time.

840
00:28:20,426 --> 00:28:20,925
Not for me, nope, mm-mm.

841
00:28:20,925 --> 00:28:22,826
'Cause you've had that before
where, where people have done that.

842
00:28:22,826 --> 00:28:23,986
And I have moved their hands.

843
00:28:24,086 --> 00:28:24,396
Yeah?

844
00:28:24,436 --> 00:28:24,856
Yeah.

845
00:28:26,246 --> 00:28:27,506
Yeah, no, not for me.

846
00:28:29,316 --> 00:28:29,996
I don't like it.

847
00:28:30,296 --> 00:28:36,226
Now, say it's a regular play partner
that, uh, we both know and like,

848
00:28:36,626 --> 00:28:42,276
and it's somebody that you play
with on occasion solo, because we

849
00:28:42,276 --> 00:28:44,106
have that hot wife dynamic thing.

850
00:28:44,116 --> 00:28:44,676
Mm-hmm.

851
00:28:44,796 --> 00:28:49,056
Um, and then all of a sudden they start
creeping into the, the choking thing.

852
00:28:49,066 --> 00:28:51,196
Do you allow it still, or do you say nope?

853
00:28:52,006 --> 00:28:53,746
Um, it depends on, it depends.

854
00:28:53,756 --> 00:28:57,126
So probably not.

855
00:28:57,576 --> 00:28:57,911
Yeah, yeah.

856
00:28:57,911 --> 00:29:01,076
Because that leaves me vulner-
because I'm very crazy.

857
00:29:01,596 --> 00:29:02,566
You watch a lot of Datelines.

858
00:29:02,566 --> 00:29:03,346
And, and yeah.

859
00:29:03,346 --> 00:29:08,266
And so if I give them a little bit,
how far are they gonna take it?

860
00:29:08,316 --> 00:29:09,526
And I'm gonna have to be…

861
00:29:11,816 --> 00:29:13,626
A, a switch flips in my brain.

862
00:29:13,786 --> 00:29:13,986
Yeah.

863
00:29:13,986 --> 00:29:18,046
Where I'm like, "Okay, now I'm fight or
flight." So it becomes less sexual and

864
00:29:18,046 --> 00:29:20,226
more- Yeah … uh, uh, uh, surviving.

865
00:29:20,236 --> 00:29:20,686
Yeah.

866
00:29:20,756 --> 00:29:20,906
Kind of.

867
00:29:20,906 --> 00:29:22,026
And I don't like that feeling.

868
00:29:22,026 --> 00:29:25,506
I don't like the feeling of,
of a hand around my neck.

869
00:29:25,696 --> 00:29:27,836
Even sometimes when you're
doing it, I still hold…

870
00:29:27,866 --> 00:29:30,036
And I been with you for 15 years.

871
00:29:30,426 --> 00:29:34,526
I still kind of hold your, like, I'll
hold your hand a certain… Like, you'll

872
00:29:34,526 --> 00:29:38,596
do this, and if I hold your hand, it's
because I'm just, I'm not relaxed.

873
00:29:38,736 --> 00:29:39,016
Yeah.

874
00:29:39,196 --> 00:29:42,576
I'm not… I mean, but I always
have my hand on yours, on your neck.

875
00:29:42,826 --> 00:29:43,166
Yeah, well.

876
00:29:43,176 --> 00:29:43,736
Usually.

877
00:29:43,756 --> 00:29:44,416
Like, I like that.

878
00:29:44,416 --> 00:29:45,756
'Cause usually I'm on top of you.

879
00:29:45,756 --> 00:29:46,046
Yeah.

880
00:29:46,046 --> 00:29:46,456
Yeah.

881
00:29:46,456 --> 00:29:51,376
Um, but even when you're, when it's
the other way, it's, uh, I, I'll hold

882
00:29:51,376 --> 00:29:57,306
your hand if it, if it's, if I'm not in
the right mindset and I'm not relaxed.

883
00:29:57,786 --> 00:29:59,676
But yeah, no, it becomes survival mode.

884
00:29:59,686 --> 00:30:00,286
Like, no.

885
00:30:00,346 --> 00:30:01,026
No.

886
00:30:01,356 --> 00:30:02,586
Do not do that.

887
00:30:03,576 --> 00:30:04,516
Do not choke me.

888
00:30:04,516 --> 00:30:07,766
Do not even attempt to, because
I will choke your ass out.

889
00:30:08,446 --> 00:30:08,716
Jesus.

890
00:30:09,176 --> 00:30:10,686
Jeez, I'm so aggressive.

891
00:30:10,866 --> 00:30:12,976
So aggressive.

892
00:30:12,976 --> 00:30:13,136
Still wanna have sex with me?

893
00:30:13,136 --> 00:30:13,156
Yeah.

894
00:30:13,156 --> 00:30:13,866
Do you still want me?

895
00:30:14,036 --> 00:30:16,186
Hey, let me tell you,
high risk, high reward.

896
00:30:19,256 --> 00:30:20,036
That's right.

897
00:30:20,176 --> 00:30:21,366
I'm just gonna say that.

898
00:30:22,236 --> 00:30:30,476
Now, what do you feel is too intimate for
you or me to do with someone else that

899
00:30:30,476 --> 00:30:32,816
would make you extremely uncomfortable?

900
00:30:37,656 --> 00:30:38,696
Too intimate.

901
00:30:39,326 --> 00:30:42,806
Something that if you knew it
took place, you'd be like, "Yeah,

902
00:30:43,116 --> 00:30:44,316
I don't, I don't like that."

903
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:47,100
Hmm

904
00:30:49,216 --> 00:30:51,766
I mean, in comparison to
when we first started.

905
00:30:51,776 --> 00:30:52,906
So- I mean, a lot has changed.

906
00:30:52,906 --> 00:30:54,076
Yeah, a lot has changed.

907
00:30:54,106 --> 00:30:57,266
Um, I don't like

908
00:30:59,658 --> 00:31:02,668
So I don't, we know that we, I
don't like the cuddling part, right?

909
00:31:02,848 --> 00:31:08,138
And I understand, like, afterwards there
is a little bit of take my breath away.

910
00:31:08,148 --> 00:31:10,038
You're, it was, you know,
catching my breath, I mean.

911
00:31:10,048 --> 00:31:10,348
Mm-hmm.

912
00:31:10,568 --> 00:31:12,838
And like, oh, that was fun, whatever.

913
00:31:12,838 --> 00:31:14,458
Like, I, I understand that.

914
00:31:15,628 --> 00:31:18,808
But say we're at the club.

915
00:31:20,448 --> 00:31:21,528
This hasn't happened yet.

916
00:31:21,708 --> 00:31:24,058
I've seen it with other people,
but this has not happened to us.

917
00:31:24,498 --> 00:31:29,388
Say we're at the club, and then
we're playing with a couple, and

918
00:31:29,388 --> 00:31:32,538
then we come back to our couch and

919
00:31:34,806 --> 00:31:35,706
The man wants…

920
00:31:35,936 --> 00:31:39,856
I end up sitting next to the man, and
then you're right here next to me,

921
00:31:39,856 --> 00:31:41,056
and then the woman is right there.

922
00:31:41,406 --> 00:31:46,836
And then the woman, um, still
proceeds to, like, be all over you.

923
00:31:48,316 --> 00:31:51,026
I don't- I've never had
that around- We've had that.

924
00:31:51,476 --> 00:31:52,976
We've had that several times

925
00:31:55,264 --> 00:31:58,764
And I know that because it,
I never know what to do.

926
00:31:59,994 --> 00:32:03,854
We've had that a lot since, since the
beginning when we first started going to

927
00:32:03,854 --> 00:32:09,314
the club No, I mean like, um, like really
aggressively arou- on you, like sitting on

928
00:32:09,314 --> 00:32:13,734
you and kind of like… The way I do it-
Yeah … I don't, I've never seen that.

929
00:32:13,874 --> 00:32:15,804
I would, I, I know I've never seen that.

930
00:32:16,024 --> 00:32:17,534
I would've taken person out.

931
00:32:18,194 --> 00:32:19,664
I would've been like,
"Yeah, no, we're done."

932
00:32:19,674 --> 00:32:19,694
Yeah.

933
00:32:20,104 --> 00:32:24,024
Like, "We're good." Um, that, I
think that would have made, that

934
00:32:24,024 --> 00:32:25,074
would make me uncomfortable.

935
00:32:25,104 --> 00:32:29,664
But I haven't… I've seen other people,
but I've never had it done to us, but

936
00:32:29,664 --> 00:32:31,384
I don't know how I would react to that.

937
00:32:31,824 --> 00:32:32,364
Um-

938
00:32:34,784 --> 00:32:36,804
I think that's, I think that's it.

939
00:32:37,244 --> 00:32:39,524
That's the only thing- You know,
it's funny that you mention that.

940
00:32:39,524 --> 00:32:44,034
I, I never know how to … You know,
we have a f- a few couples that we're

941
00:32:44,034 --> 00:32:47,114
really close to- Yeah … that we're
very, very comfortable with, and

942
00:32:47,114 --> 00:32:48,644
we've gone to the club with before.

943
00:32:49,174 --> 00:32:52,714
And there have been nights where
it's like you and I start sitting

944
00:32:52,934 --> 00:32:56,274
next to each other, and then
eventually I'm sitting next to her

945
00:32:56,274 --> 00:32:57,564
and you're sitting next to him.

946
00:32:58,224 --> 00:33:01,454
And I never know- It's
hard … can I touch her?

947
00:33:01,474 --> 00:33:04,034
Can, do I put my arm around her?

948
00:33:04,034 --> 00:33:04,744
You have to think if you're
gonna have sex with her, right?

949
00:33:04,774 --> 00:33:05,194
Yeah.

950
00:33:05,224 --> 00:33:07,464
I t- And, and- I understand … and
you the same thing.

951
00:33:07,474 --> 00:33:13,614
Like I'm, it, but I also, I don't know if
it's w- what's good between us, but then I

952
00:33:13,624 --> 00:33:15,484
don't know what's good between you and I.

953
00:33:15,854 --> 00:33:16,104
Yeah.

954
00:33:16,104 --> 00:33:17,994
I don't know what I can
do and you're cool with.

955
00:33:18,064 --> 00:33:19,124
I, I don't know either.

956
00:33:19,384 --> 00:33:20,794
Dude, you know I'm cool with everything.

957
00:33:20,814 --> 00:33:21,244
Yeah.

958
00:33:21,304 --> 00:33:24,384
Like, I, I kinda see it kinda
hot with people that I trust.

959
00:33:24,384 --> 00:33:24,874
Yes.

960
00:33:25,204 --> 00:33:26,564
Um, when it's people that I trust.

961
00:33:26,614 --> 00:33:29,654
But if it's somebody, like, we've
just started with- Brand new … brand

962
00:33:29,654 --> 00:33:31,574
new- We don't know them like that

963
00:33:31,574 --> 00:33:31,994
I don't know them, yeah.

964
00:33:31,994 --> 00:33:35,294
If I don't know them like that, the
people that we, that we're s- close

965
00:33:35,294 --> 00:33:38,534
to are really close to each other.

966
00:33:38,574 --> 00:33:38,884
Yeah.

967
00:33:39,024 --> 00:33:43,754
So… So c- you know that
their relationship is, is good-

968
00:33:43,754 --> 00:33:47,514
Yeah … and you don't have to
worry about anything, uh, being

969
00:33:47,514 --> 00:33:49,314
misinterpreted or anything like that.

970
00:33:49,314 --> 00:33:49,704
Yeah.

971
00:33:50,314 --> 00:33:51,104
Yeah, I get that.

972
00:33:51,184 --> 00:33:51,634
Exactly.

973
00:33:51,764 --> 00:33:52,334
I get that.

974
00:33:52,884 --> 00:33:57,704
Um, yeah, tho- those instances
have come up and I've sat there

975
00:33:57,704 --> 00:33:59,814
and gone, "What do I do?" Yeah.

976
00:34:00,564 --> 00:34:03,614
Because my instinct is to
be all over this chick.

977
00:34:03,814 --> 00:34:04,184
Yeah.

978
00:34:05,084 --> 00:34:08,814
It's something I wanna do, but
then I don't know if that's okay.

979
00:34:08,864 --> 00:34:10,464
I, I kind of feel like it is okay.

980
00:34:13,524 --> 00:34:14,204
Isn't that silly that we could just ask?

981
00:34:14,204 --> 00:34:14,224
We could.

982
00:34:14,224 --> 00:34:14,244
We could.

983
00:34:14,244 --> 00:34:14,294
We could just ask.

984
00:34:14,294 --> 00:34:16,624
But this is another one of those
situations where it's like,

985
00:34:17,014 --> 00:34:18,224
is that gonna kill the mood?

986
00:34:18,704 --> 00:34:19,424
You know what I mean?

987
00:34:20,044 --> 00:34:20,184
No.

988
00:34:20,514 --> 00:34:21,837
Like, is that conversation
gonna kill the mood?

989
00:34:21,837 --> 00:34:22,554
It's not gonna kill the mood.

990
00:34:22,554 --> 00:34:25,164
You see people say that about,
like, condom, condom conversations.

991
00:34:25,214 --> 00:34:26,154
It's not gonna kill the mood.

992
00:34:26,204 --> 00:34:27,484
You already just had the mood.

993
00:34:28,054 --> 00:34:28,934
What is it gonna kill?

994
00:34:29,654 --> 00:34:32,424
Well, so if I'm sitting next to this girl
and it's like, I don't know whether or

995
00:34:32,424 --> 00:34:33,954
not I… What do, what do I even say?

996
00:34:33,954 --> 00:34:38,954
Do I look over and go, "Hey, so is it okay
if I touch you all over right now?" Yes.

997
00:34:39,094 --> 00:34:39,614
Okay.

998
00:34:39,624 --> 00:34:40,474
Well, I'm gonna use that one.

999
00:34:40,494 --> 00:34:43,684
Or, "Hey, um, is it cool that,

1000
00:34:45,724 --> 00:34:46,314
is it… Come over here." Can
I give you a purple nurple?

1001
00:34:46,414 --> 00:34:49,194
You can just be like, "Come
over here." I've done that once.

1002
00:34:49,194 --> 00:34:49,474
Yeah.

1003
00:34:49,514 --> 00:34:51,684
I've done that once before- Right
… and it worked out kinda nicely,

1004
00:34:51,684 --> 00:34:54,764
but then, uh, it, it lasted for a
couple minutes and then it stopped.

1005
00:34:54,764 --> 00:34:56,184
I mean, 'cause I follow your lead too.

1006
00:34:56,184 --> 00:34:58,124
So, like, if you were to do
that, I would sit over here.

1007
00:34:58,124 --> 00:34:58,634
Do you?

1008
00:34:58,634 --> 00:35:00,064
With the people that
we're comfortable with?

1009
00:35:00,064 --> 00:35:00,224
Yeah.

1010
00:35:00,224 --> 00:35:01,234
For sure.

1011
00:35:01,394 --> 00:35:02,144
That's good to know.

1012
00:35:02,414 --> 00:35:02,804
For sure.

1013
00:35:02,814 --> 00:35:05,114
But they're comfortable with each
other too- Right … so I'm like,

1014
00:35:05,144 --> 00:35:08,844
"Okay, what am I doing? I don't wanna
break up your, your fun-ness right

1015
00:35:08,844 --> 00:35:10,444
now," so, like, where, where is it?

1016
00:35:10,564 --> 00:35:10,734
Yeah.

1017
00:35:10,734 --> 00:35:11,354
Where are we?

1018
00:35:11,614 --> 00:35:11,964
Yeah.

1019
00:35:12,214 --> 00:35:13,084
What should we do when?

1020
00:35:13,404 --> 00:35:17,624
You know, we get reached out to by a
lot of couples who listen to the show.

1021
00:35:17,804 --> 00:35:18,274
Mm-hmm.

1022
00:35:18,644 --> 00:35:19,664
Uh, and singles.

1023
00:35:20,254 --> 00:35:25,234
Uh, and a lot of people feel
they know us because of the show.

1024
00:35:25,234 --> 00:35:27,794
They get to know us pretty
well, and that's fair because

1025
00:35:27,794 --> 00:35:28,854
our whole life is out here.

1026
00:35:29,544 --> 00:35:37,484
Um, but I think a lot of people wanna
know if they want to link up with

1027
00:35:37,484 --> 00:35:43,534
us, what would be their, their, their
surefire way of getting that happening?

1028
00:35:43,534 --> 00:35:46,914
Like, if they wanna, they wanna s-
schedule something with, uh, Pris

1029
00:35:46,914 --> 00:35:47,924
and Adam, how do they do that?

1030
00:35:48,824 --> 00:35:50,084
To, like, have dinner and stuff?

1031
00:35:50,554 --> 00:35:53,464
To have dinner and see if
there's a vibe If there's a vibe.

1032
00:35:53,784 --> 00:35:55,524
Um- If we're bangable.

1033
00:35:56,914 --> 00:35:58,544
First let's have a conversation.

1034
00:35:58,734 --> 00:35:59,354
Let's chat.

1035
00:35:59,984 --> 00:36:02,174
Let's get to know each other.

1036
00:36:02,264 --> 00:36:02,604
Mm-hmm.

1037
00:36:02,644 --> 00:36:04,014
And then let's meet up for dinner.

1038
00:36:04,404 --> 00:36:10,214
Well, so now… But, but you have claimed
that you're not good, uh, chatting online.

1039
00:36:10,224 --> 00:36:14,824
No, but I wanna at least have some
kind of little bit of conversation.

1040
00:36:14,844 --> 00:36:15,174
Yeah.

1041
00:36:15,174 --> 00:36:15,214
Yeah.

1042
00:36:15,214 --> 00:36:15,524
Yeah.

1043
00:36:15,554 --> 00:36:19,674
And then we can schedule a dinner
or a meetup, and then even after the

1044
00:36:19,674 --> 00:36:22,794
meetup, if it's cool, then I'd be
like, "Let's go." Now, do you have

1045
00:36:22,794 --> 00:36:26,834
to be physically attracted to them
in pictures before you even consider

1046
00:36:26,834 --> 00:36:27,974
setting something like that up?

1047
00:36:28,924 --> 00:36:33,874
Um- Or do you at least meet up and then
go, "Ah, there's no sexual vibe here"?

1048
00:36:34,064 --> 00:36:38,764
No, I wanna at least,
um, I wanna see pictures.

1049
00:36:38,874 --> 00:36:39,204
Yeah.

1050
00:36:39,244 --> 00:36:44,604
Doesn't mean necessarily that the
pictures… I'm lying to you guys.

1051
00:36:44,604 --> 00:36:45,124
I'm sorry.

1052
00:36:45,124 --> 00:36:48,794
I'm very, very, like, I will…
I'm a very… I'm not judgy

1053
00:36:48,794 --> 00:36:50,574
on looks, I'm judgy on vibe.

1054
00:36:50,594 --> 00:36:53,564
And if I see a picture, I could
tell you if I like somebody or not.

1055
00:36:53,714 --> 00:36:54,344
Yeah, totally.

1056
00:36:54,344 --> 00:36:57,284
I was sitting here thinking- So- … no,
I, I didn't know we lived on a farm,

1057
00:36:57,284 --> 00:36:58,524
but I'm smelling some bullshit.

1058
00:36:58,544 --> 00:36:58,864
Yeah.

1059
00:36:59,374 --> 00:37:02,874
No- I'm good … um, I know if I,
if I like somebody immediately,

1060
00:37:02,884 --> 00:37:04,324
even before I meet them.

1061
00:37:04,624 --> 00:37:05,114
Um- I've seen it.

1062
00:37:05,394 --> 00:37:08,504
Yeah … in conversation
I'll, I'll let my guard down a

1063
00:37:08,504 --> 00:37:10,564
little bit and be like, "Okay.

1064
00:37:11,124 --> 00:37:11,554
Mm.

1065
00:37:12,084 --> 00:37:16,564
Let, let's, let's continue talking,"
because I can tell intentions immediately.

1066
00:37:17,344 --> 00:37:17,524
Yeah.

1067
00:37:17,534 --> 00:37:19,654
Um, and I go with my gut feeling.

1068
00:37:20,194 --> 00:37:20,534
Yeah.

1069
00:37:20,704 --> 00:37:25,344
So, you know, depending on how
the conversation goes via text,

1070
00:37:25,684 --> 00:37:28,204
even though I don't like to chat,
I will chat for a little bit.

1071
00:37:28,704 --> 00:37:32,534
And if the conversation is good,
then I'm like, "Okay, cool."

1072
00:37:32,774 --> 00:37:34,354
But if the conversation is,

1073
00:37:36,484 --> 00:37:42,844
oh, very oversexual or just
boring, I'll still give you

1074
00:37:42,844 --> 00:37:43,924
the benefit of the doubt- Yeah

1075
00:37:44,214 --> 00:37:45,244
when we meet up.

1076
00:37:45,614 --> 00:37:46,014
Yeah.

1077
00:37:46,274 --> 00:37:46,524
Hmm.

1078
00:37:47,554 --> 00:37:48,024
Yeah.

1079
00:37:48,134 --> 00:37:48,974
That's interesting.

1080
00:37:49,954 --> 00:37:55,372
Yeah, you know, I, I, uh- I feel like
there's a, a lot of people out there who

1081
00:37:55,372 --> 00:37:59,212
are like, "Well, you know, we could, we
could hang out and have a good time."

1082
00:37:59,222 --> 00:38:04,242
And, and you know, I, I am a, a… I
love making friends in this lifestyle.

1083
00:38:04,242 --> 00:38:04,340
Same.

1084
00:38:04,340 --> 00:38:05,122
I know so do you.

1085
00:38:05,162 --> 00:38:11,382
Um, there's a lot of people out there in
the lifestyle who have not separated the

1086
00:38:11,382 --> 00:38:15,712
fact that you can be friends with somebody
in the lifestyle and not sleep with them.

1087
00:38:15,892 --> 00:38:16,482
Oh, for sure.

1088
00:38:16,492 --> 00:38:19,202
Um, and I think I just, I just
had this conversation with

1089
00:38:19,202 --> 00:38:20,952
somebody, I think last weekend.

1090
00:38:21,512 --> 00:38:24,622
Uh, I was talking to another couple,
and there was somebody who was

1091
00:38:24,622 --> 00:38:29,682
saying, "Yeah, you know, I, I'm just
realizing this, that, uh, you know,

1092
00:38:29,782 --> 00:38:33,142
we can be friends with people and
we don't have to sleep with them."

1093
00:38:33,162 --> 00:38:33,502
Mm-hmm.

1094
00:38:33,602 --> 00:38:38,422
Uh, because it's, it's really…
That's something that, that people

1095
00:38:38,422 --> 00:38:41,502
automatically associate, and I think
you did for a long time as well.

1096
00:38:41,502 --> 00:38:42,192
For, for a long time.

1097
00:38:42,192 --> 00:38:45,512
But guys, we have all of our
friends are, are swingers.

1098
00:38:45,522 --> 00:38:46,962
Like, all of our friends.

1099
00:38:46,962 --> 00:38:47,232
Yeah.

1100
00:38:47,672 --> 00:38:49,032
That's a lot of people.

1101
00:38:49,222 --> 00:38:51,362
No, we don't sleep with them.

1102
00:38:51,472 --> 00:38:52,632
We don't sleep with everybody.

1103
00:38:52,632 --> 00:38:53,442
No.

1104
00:38:53,452 --> 00:38:53,472
Yeah.

1105
00:38:53,762 --> 00:38:57,242
Like, it's, it's not, it's not like that.

1106
00:38:57,292 --> 00:38:58,452
It's, um, friendship.

1107
00:38:58,452 --> 00:39:03,602
It's people that you can hang
out with, have a lot of common

1108
00:39:04,272 --> 00:39:09,092
characteristics and common things
that y'all like, and common, you know.

1109
00:39:09,092 --> 00:39:10,652
It's so, it's fun.

1110
00:39:11,332 --> 00:39:13,082
It's like having a lot of best friends.

1111
00:39:13,412 --> 00:39:13,712
Yeah.

1112
00:39:13,712 --> 00:39:17,442
You know, for us, it's reached
o- it's reached more than sex.

1113
00:39:17,572 --> 00:39:17,802
Yeah.

1114
00:39:18,042 --> 00:39:22,352
Uh, we went to a hotel takeover where we
stayed in a room with another couple- Yeah

1115
00:39:22,362 --> 00:39:25,752
… that we're really, really close with, and
we usually have sex with all the time.

1116
00:39:26,222 --> 00:39:27,962
And we didn't have sex with
them once- We had sex… No,

1117
00:39:28,212 --> 00:39:29,302
once … in the entire weekend.

1118
00:39:29,572 --> 00:39:29,642
Mm-hmm.

1119
00:39:29,652 --> 00:39:32,442
We were there, and we had
a great weekend with them.

1120
00:39:32,452 --> 00:39:32,522
Mm-hmm.

1121
00:39:32,542 --> 00:39:35,122
And they, they are really great friends.

1122
00:39:35,562 --> 00:39:37,472
And we enjoyed the entire weekend.

1123
00:39:37,602 --> 00:39:37,782
Yeah.

1124
00:39:37,782 --> 00:39:39,902
And, and sex did not take place.

1125
00:39:39,912 --> 00:39:40,142
No.

1126
00:39:40,352 --> 00:39:43,242
Um, and, and those are the kind
of connections that we really

1127
00:39:43,242 --> 00:39:45,442
love to have and entertain.

1128
00:39:45,892 --> 00:39:49,192
Um, so when people reach out and
they're like, "Oh, well, how can I,

1129
00:39:49,802 --> 00:39:51,862
uh, link up with, with you guys?"

1130
00:39:51,862 --> 00:39:56,712
Well, really, um, we're not much
for one-night stands, you know?

1131
00:39:56,942 --> 00:39:57,402
Yeah.

1132
00:39:57,412 --> 00:40:00,522
We're more or less looking for people
that we can be friends with, people that

1133
00:40:00,522 --> 00:40:03,442
we enjoy- Yeah … um, personality-wise.

1134
00:40:03,452 --> 00:40:03,472
Yeah.

1135
00:40:03,482 --> 00:40:06,602
People that we can be friends
with and turn to when we want.

1136
00:40:06,602 --> 00:40:06,962
No.

1137
00:40:07,312 --> 00:40:07,742
Yeah.

1138
00:40:07,902 --> 00:40:09,482
That's, that's a very good point.

1139
00:40:09,592 --> 00:40:14,322
Um, I'm a little, I'm a little
easier- A little teapot.

1140
00:40:17,506 --> 00:40:23,406
And maybe, not to sound a certain
way, but I'm pretty sure that if I

1141
00:40:23,426 --> 00:40:27,886
meet up with a guy or a couple that
they're probably gonna wanna have

1142
00:40:27,896 --> 00:40:31,186
sex that time, and I'm cool with it.

1143
00:40:31,186 --> 00:40:33,656
Like, you don't have to show
any type of like… You don't

1144
00:40:33,656 --> 00:40:34,696
have to be a certain way.

1145
00:40:34,706 --> 00:40:36,956
If you're just like… If
you're the one who says, "Hey,

1146
00:40:36,986 --> 00:40:38,026
do you think we can have sex?"

1147
00:40:38,346 --> 00:40:41,076
I'll tell you yes or no
that- Yeah … moment.

1148
00:40:41,456 --> 00:40:46,456
Um, you need a little bit more attention.

1149
00:40:46,556 --> 00:40:47,866
I like to feel wanted.

1150
00:40:47,956 --> 00:40:48,476
Yeah.

1151
00:40:48,476 --> 00:40:48,576
Yeah.

1152
00:40:48,576 --> 00:40:48,676
Yeah.

1153
00:40:48,676 --> 00:40:54,036
And I, I'm very… I can be like, "Yeah,
you know, I think you're hot. Let's do

1154
00:40:54,036 --> 00:40:55,986
this." Um- I li- I like to feel wanted.

1155
00:40:56,016 --> 00:40:59,716
I like to feel like the woman really
wants to- Yeah … have sex with me.

1156
00:41:00,196 --> 00:41:02,906
Like, that's all I,
that's all I need, really.

1157
00:41:02,906 --> 00:41:06,296
I mean, even if it's faked but
it's really good faking, uh, as

1158
00:41:06,296 --> 00:41:07,796
long as I feel it, like, I'm good.

1159
00:41:07,806 --> 00:41:07,826
Yeah.

1160
00:41:08,326 --> 00:41:12,106
Um, but the moment that I feel
like I'm kind of just, I don't

1161
00:41:12,106 --> 00:41:18,896
know, another screw in, in the,
uh, the bridge- Yeah … you know?

1162
00:41:18,896 --> 00:41:21,006
It's like, eh, I'm good.

1163
00:41:21,096 --> 00:41:21,506
Yeah.

1164
00:41:21,806 --> 00:41:22,566
I can pass.

1165
00:41:22,616 --> 00:41:26,576
And I'm, I'm like, "Eh." Um,
and then that's only because-

1166
00:41:29,174 --> 00:41:35,434
I'm a woman and I'm not
everybody's cup of tea, but

1167
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:43,050
I can go with the flow for

1168
00:41:46,392 --> 00:41:48,182
For, for the, for the pleasure?

1169
00:41:48,582 --> 00:41:48,892
Yeah.

1170
00:41:49,032 --> 00:41:49,472
Yeah.

1171
00:41:50,372 --> 00:41:50,612
Hmm.

1172
00:41:50,802 --> 00:41:51,152
Yeah.

1173
00:41:51,902 --> 00:41:55,792
I mean, I would say transactional,
but I still need to meet you.

1174
00:41:56,062 --> 00:41:56,922
You know, I- You know?

1175
00:41:56,922 --> 00:41:58,342
… I don't need that much.

1176
00:41:58,372 --> 00:42:01,452
Like, I- Yeah … I just need to
see that the, the woman is into me.

1177
00:42:01,462 --> 00:42:03,282
It really doesn't ta- Yeah … it
doesn't take that long.

1178
00:42:03,632 --> 00:42:08,012
It can be as long as it takes for us
to have a conversation on the couch.

1179
00:42:08,092 --> 00:42:08,402
Yeah, you'll get the vibe.

1180
00:42:08,402 --> 00:42:09,162
You know what I'm saying?

1181
00:42:09,172 --> 00:42:10,252
Like, i- immediately.

1182
00:42:10,252 --> 00:42:10,832
Yeah, same.

1183
00:42:10,832 --> 00:42:12,472
You can tell if the
person's- Same … into you.

1184
00:42:12,492 --> 00:42:13,842
So, and, and I mean, that's easy.

1185
00:42:13,862 --> 00:42:16,202
Like, that's, honestly, like, I
know that I sound like I'm a v-

1186
00:42:16,382 --> 00:42:18,362
difficult person, but I really am not.

1187
00:42:18,362 --> 00:42:19,292
Like, it doesn't take a lot.

1188
00:42:19,292 --> 00:42:24,182
It just takes for you to be a very nice,
respectable person, couple, to come up

1189
00:42:24,182 --> 00:42:26,002
to us and be like, "Cool, let's chat."

1190
00:42:26,032 --> 00:42:29,412
And then be like, "Hey, do y'all
wanna go to the ba…" Yeah.

1191
00:42:30,172 --> 00:42:32,672
You know- If it's not good when we're
back there, I'm gonna tell you and be

1192
00:42:32,672 --> 00:42:34,872
like, "Ooh, I don't like that." Yeah.

1193
00:42:35,012 --> 00:42:36,102
Like, I'm good with that.

1194
00:42:36,132 --> 00:42:39,092
Um, so yeah, that's, you know.

1195
00:42:39,122 --> 00:42:42,962
So if you're ever in, uh, uh, the
same place as us and it's a sexual

1196
00:42:42,962 --> 00:42:45,082
setting… Feel free … you got a shot.

1197
00:42:45,202 --> 00:42:45,602
Yes.

1198
00:42:45,702 --> 00:42:46,532
You got a shot.

1199
00:42:46,542 --> 00:42:48,222
You just- Yes … gotta
play your cards right.

1200
00:42:48,222 --> 00:42:48,382
Yes.

1201
00:42:48,382 --> 00:42:48,962
You know what I'm saying?

1202
00:42:49,262 --> 00:42:51,502
Like, like we said, we
are a very real couple.

1203
00:42:51,552 --> 00:42:55,242
And, and this is something that
people, uh, don't always understand

1204
00:42:55,242 --> 00:42:58,932
because there are a lot of content
creators out there who are not really

1205
00:42:58,932 --> 00:43:01,282
attainable in the, uh, lifestyle.

1206
00:43:01,502 --> 00:43:04,102
It's more of a niche that
they produce content for.

1207
00:43:04,112 --> 00:43:04,372
Yeah.

1208
00:43:04,552 --> 00:43:08,342
Um, a- and they… and to be fair,
they all have their small circle.

1209
00:43:08,882 --> 00:43:08,992
Yeah.

1210
00:43:09,002 --> 00:43:12,152
Um, but we're always looking
to expand our circle.

1211
00:43:12,162 --> 00:43:12,532
Yes.

1212
00:43:12,542 --> 00:43:15,792
So, you know- Yes, we are … uh, we're,
we're always looking for, for new friends.

1213
00:43:15,822 --> 00:43:15,982
Yeah.

1214
00:43:15,982 --> 00:43:19,302
Especially ones that, uh, playtime might
ensue, so that's always, always- Yeah

1215
00:43:19,302 --> 00:43:20,482
always a good time.

1216
00:43:20,682 --> 00:43:20,742
Yeah.

1217
00:43:20,742 --> 00:43:24,292
Uh, you know, there is, there's
something that I still struggle with.

1218
00:43:24,492 --> 00:43:25,922
You know, we've come so far.

1219
00:43:26,222 --> 00:43:26,702
Mm-hmm.

1220
00:43:26,782 --> 00:43:30,522
But when we go to the club…
Mm-hmm … there are more experiences

1221
00:43:30,522 --> 00:43:36,022
that I wanna have, but I can't seem
to break away from your side to do it.

1222
00:43:36,622 --> 00:43:37,172
Yeah.

1223
00:43:37,652 --> 00:43:39,732
I struggle with that, and we
talk about it all the time.

1224
00:43:39,742 --> 00:43:40,292
We do.

1225
00:43:40,342 --> 00:43:45,332
And- And I know that I can … and
so at this hotel takeover, I… Lil'

1226
00:43:45,342 --> 00:43:46,692
Birdy spread her wings a little bit.

1227
00:43:46,792 --> 00:43:47,102
Yeah.

1228
00:43:47,412 --> 00:43:49,302
Um, I, I did.

1229
00:43:49,302 --> 00:43:52,922
I, I would swim in the… we
were in the pool, and I would

1230
00:43:52,922 --> 00:43:54,282
swim toward other people.

1231
00:43:54,332 --> 00:43:57,502
And I was kinda bring… I was
trying to bring everybody that

1232
00:43:57,502 --> 00:43:59,272
I wanted to meet other people.

1233
00:43:59,272 --> 00:44:00,132
Like, you know, we have- Yeah

1234
00:44:00,142 --> 00:44:02,902
certain friends that are, that don't
really know this group of people.

1235
00:44:02,932 --> 00:44:03,222
Yeah.

1236
00:44:03,322 --> 00:44:04,102
And so I was trying to.

1237
00:44:04,162 --> 00:44:06,472
But I was out there, and
I was, I was chatting.

1238
00:44:06,472 --> 00:44:09,962
And then every now and then I'd be like,
"Ooh, I wanna kiss this person." And

1239
00:44:09,962 --> 00:44:11,672
I'd be, "Can I kiss you?" And we'd kiss.

1240
00:44:11,682 --> 00:44:14,255
You know, that was a good hot
wife experience because- That-

1241
00:44:14,255 --> 00:44:17,262
I was there in the pool, and then you
just went up to the guy next to me,

1242
00:44:17,262 --> 00:44:18,452
and you started making out with him.

1243
00:44:18,472 --> 00:44:21,382
I thought- And you started
giving basically a hand job

1244
00:44:21,382 --> 00:44:22,372
through his- Yeah … shorts.

1245
00:44:22,372 --> 00:44:22,722
Yeah.

1246
00:44:22,852 --> 00:44:23,282
Right there.

1247
00:44:23,282 --> 00:44:26,472
It was a s- That was hot … super hot

1248
00:44:28,732 --> 00:44:33,342
comfortable weekend And I'm glad
that you were able to do that,

1249
00:44:33,372 --> 00:44:35,382
that you felt okay leaving my side.

1250
00:44:35,822 --> 00:44:38,542
I have yet to feel okay
with that at the club.

1251
00:44:38,602 --> 00:44:38,802
Yeah.

1252
00:44:38,802 --> 00:44:42,042
And I'm trying to- And that's because
at the club is probably the best

1253
00:44:42,042 --> 00:44:46,972
place because- Everybody knows us
there … we know at least h- the

1254
00:44:46,972 --> 00:44:48,842
full building, if not more than half.

1255
00:44:48,902 --> 00:44:52,842
And, you know, whoever I would be walking
up to i- are people that we would know.

1256
00:44:53,312 --> 00:44:53,372
Yeah.

1257
00:44:53,372 --> 00:44:55,532
I wouldn't walk up to
anybody who's a stranger.

1258
00:44:55,802 --> 00:44:56,052
Yeah.

1259
00:44:56,082 --> 00:45:01,492
Um, it would be somebody that we know
and, and that I've got a good shot with.

1260
00:45:01,492 --> 00:45:02,942
I think it's the fear of leaving you alone
… but I don't, I'm, I have this fear.

1261
00:45:02,982 --> 00:45:03,522
Check this out.

1262
00:45:03,552 --> 00:45:05,442
It, it, it's played out in my head.

1263
00:45:05,442 --> 00:45:11,276
Okay, tell me I look at you on the couch
and I go, "Hey, I'm gonna, I'm gonna

1264
00:45:11,276 --> 00:45:14,406
go over here across the dance floor
and I'm gonna go talk to so-and-so."

1265
00:45:14,836 --> 00:45:18,056
And you're gonna have that same
look on your face that- This look.

1266
00:45:18,056 --> 00:45:20,986
You can't see me right now, guys,
but… No, that's not the look.

1267
00:45:22,016 --> 00:45:26,646
The look that you gave me this, uh,
there was a, a couple that we played

1268
00:45:26,646 --> 00:45:32,376
with a long time ago, and the wife
and I ended up walking to the room,

1269
00:45:32,416 --> 00:45:34,866
and you were sitting on the couch and
you were like, "Where are you going?"

1270
00:45:35,146 --> 00:45:36,526
Like- Yeah … I was going without you.

1271
00:45:36,556 --> 00:45:36,756
Yeah.

1272
00:45:36,876 --> 00:45:39,636
And you had a very freaked out-
We hadn't, we hadn't talked

1273
00:45:39,636 --> 00:45:40,096
about it … look on your face.

1274
00:45:40,236 --> 00:45:41,196
We hadn't talked about it.

1275
00:45:41,206 --> 00:45:41,226
No.

1276
00:45:41,236 --> 00:45:41,836
I remember that.

1277
00:45:41,866 --> 00:45:46,486
And but I remember the look on your
face was very, uh, deer in a headlight,

1278
00:45:46,526 --> 00:45:50,066
what's happening, I'm very, I'm, I'm
freaking out right now kinda look.

1279
00:45:50,166 --> 00:45:50,446
Oh, yeah.

1280
00:45:50,476 --> 00:45:52,856
And I did not like that look,
and I never- No … wanted to

1281
00:45:52,856 --> 00:45:54,726
prus- produce that look again.

1282
00:45:55,246 --> 00:45:57,836
And so this is what- You haven't … this
is what I have in my head, though.

1283
00:45:57,856 --> 00:45:58,266
Okay.

1284
00:45:58,296 --> 00:46:03,636
So e- even as we sit on the couch in
the club and I have this in my head,

1285
00:46:03,636 --> 00:46:07,396
I'm like, "Okay, I could easily go walk
over there across the c- the dance floor

1286
00:46:07,796 --> 00:46:11,236
and sit next to so-and-so and put the
moves and probably head to the back.

1287
00:46:12,416 --> 00:46:15,746
How am I going to tell my wife this?"
Like that- And this is going on in my

1288
00:46:15,746 --> 00:46:21,946
head … you know, all you have to do
is be like, "Hey, I saw Sabrina, and

1289
00:46:21,946 --> 00:46:24,096
I really, I wanna go chat with her.

1290
00:46:24,156 --> 00:46:27,426
Are you cool being right here
by yourself?" Be like, "Yes.

1291
00:46:28,406 --> 00:46:33,436
Are you gonna go to the back?" And you
say, "Maybe." Like, "Okay, two hours

1292
00:46:33,436 --> 00:46:34,526
by the time you walk to the back."

1293
00:46:34,536 --> 00:46:35,086
That's what we have.

1294
00:46:35,086 --> 00:46:36,186
We have a two-hour gap, right?

1295
00:46:36,426 --> 00:46:36,746
Yeah, we have a two-hour gap.

1296
00:46:36,746 --> 00:46:39,606
So, and it doesn't start till
you start walking to the back.

1297
00:46:41,096 --> 00:46:41,856
So you have some time.

1298
00:46:42,326 --> 00:46:45,876
Um, and you know, I know you're prob…
And I mean, I don't think I would

1299
00:46:45,886 --> 00:46:47,666
be by myself for a very long time.

1300
00:46:47,686 --> 00:46:50,271
I would probably- I know that you wouldn't
be by yourself for a very long time

1301
00:46:50,271 --> 00:46:52,846
Yeah, but I mean, like, 'cause we have
so m- I have so many girlfriends there.

1302
00:46:52,856 --> 00:46:54,386
Like, there's so many fr- people.

1303
00:46:54,536 --> 00:46:54,876
Yeah.

1304
00:46:54,886 --> 00:46:58,216
So I would be like, "Oh, I'm…" I
mean, I would probably get up and

1305
00:46:58,226 --> 00:47:01,466
be like, "Okay, Adam's talking over
there, so come sit with me." Uh-huh.

1306
00:47:01,726 --> 00:47:04,626
Um, I think that would be hot.

1307
00:47:04,916 --> 00:47:08,416
So but that's, and I know- Only
because- I, and I know that this

1308
00:47:08,416 --> 00:47:14,256
is your point of view now … only
because I'm pretty comfortable with

1309
00:47:16,456 --> 00:47:17,936
everybody that's there.

1310
00:47:18,686 --> 00:47:21,766
There's, if there's a new person, I'd be
like, "Nah, you better pump your brakes.

1311
00:47:21,766 --> 00:47:27,366
Hold on." Um, but anybody else, I think
right now in the m- in the time of my

1312
00:47:27,426 --> 00:47:33,462
life that I'm in, I'm okay with I mean,
I would say try it Well, understand

1313
00:47:33,462 --> 00:47:38,092
it's very hard to break away from you,
uh, considering we're always together.

1314
00:47:38,102 --> 00:47:40,452
Like And I'm always, like- It's, it's
hard … dancing or on him or something.

1315
00:47:40,452 --> 00:47:43,402
Yeah Yeah It's, it… and, and I'm not
saying it's anything that you're doing.

1316
00:47:43,502 --> 00:47:44,492
No, yeah It's internally.

1317
00:47:44,492 --> 00:47:44,542
It's me.

1318
00:47:44,552 --> 00:47:44,872
Yeah, yeah.

1319
00:47:44,882 --> 00:47:48,802
It's, like, it's very hard for me to go,
'cause I have this whole thing in my head.

1320
00:47:48,802 --> 00:47:52,642
I have this picture of you as me
telling you that and you going,

1321
00:47:53,262 --> 00:47:54,612
"Well, are you gonna go to the back?"

1322
00:47:54,942 --> 00:47:55,282
Yeah.

1323
00:47:55,382 --> 00:47:58,602
'Cause you, you don't say
things that calmly and nicely

1324
00:47:58,602 --> 00:47:59,542
the way you just said it.

1325
00:47:59,972 --> 00:48:03,212
You have a tone of voice sometimes-
I do … when you're uncomfortable.

1326
00:48:03,212 --> 00:48:03,752
Yeah, yeah.

1327
00:48:03,752 --> 00:48:06,612
And it just comes out and you're- You
know, we should- You react … we,

1328
00:48:06,722 --> 00:48:08,022
we're gonna have to practice that.

1329
00:48:08,432 --> 00:48:09,402
Like, role-playing?

1330
00:48:09,402 --> 00:48:12,822
We're, we're gonna have to, we're
gonna have to try it at least one night

1331
00:48:12,832 --> 00:48:14,802
and, and, and then I can s- I agree.

1332
00:48:14,872 --> 00:48:18,582
We are … and then I can tell you,
"Okay, so next time do this." Because,

1333
00:48:18,592 --> 00:48:22,132
like, remember when we had this thing
where people would just make out with

1334
00:48:22,132 --> 00:48:24,102
you and I'd be like, "Okay, well,
when you're done making out with

1335
00:48:24,102 --> 00:48:27,132
them, like, you need to bring me in.

1336
00:48:27,142 --> 00:48:30,912
Like, you need to kind of, you need
to come back and come back to me."

1337
00:48:30,932 --> 00:48:31,292
Right.

1338
00:48:31,482 --> 00:48:34,882
Um, and I think that's, that's great.

1339
00:48:34,882 --> 00:48:42,066
So I don't know I s- I would say
try it, and I can tell you what

1340
00:48:42,076 --> 00:48:44,996
I don't… What made me feel
uncomfortable once we're done.

1341
00:48:45,236 --> 00:48:45,516
Yeah.

1342
00:48:45,836 --> 00:48:48,166
I mean, I don't mind having that
conversation and being like,

1343
00:48:48,536 --> 00:48:50,806
"Ooh, baby, no, I need this.

1344
00:48:50,856 --> 00:48:51,716
A little bit more.

1345
00:48:52,016 --> 00:48:52,866
You did great.

1346
00:48:54,176 --> 00:48:55,256
I give you a B.

1347
00:48:55,856 --> 00:48:59,226
Let's try to shoot for an A."
Um, because I don't, I don't know

1348
00:48:59,226 --> 00:49:01,306
what I like until it happens.

1349
00:49:01,346 --> 00:49:06,236
Um, I can tell you that I
wouldn't mind doing that.

1350
00:49:07,476 --> 00:49:10,926
Um, I love you watching.

1351
00:49:10,936 --> 00:49:10,956
Yeah.

1352
00:49:11,556 --> 00:49:15,356
So I kinda am picturing it right now,
like you going over there and you

1353
00:49:15,356 --> 00:49:20,676
chatting it, and I'm just watching
you, and then I watch you walk by me,

1354
00:49:20,686 --> 00:49:22,776
and you give me that little smile.

1355
00:49:23,046 --> 00:49:23,386
Mm-hmm.

1356
00:49:23,646 --> 00:49:24,966
And then you go to the back.

1357
00:49:25,066 --> 00:49:27,946
I kinda can see that, and
it's kinda… It's hot.

1358
00:49:28,176 --> 00:49:28,526
Yeah.

1359
00:49:29,046 --> 00:49:30,426
Well, so- Because I can go back there.

1360
00:49:30,646 --> 00:49:33,256
And see, I… And so we've talked
about this over and over again.

1361
00:49:33,286 --> 00:49:37,086
I think the idea of you breaking
away, finding somebody out there.

1362
00:49:37,346 --> 00:49:38,726
Like, I stay sitting on the couch.

1363
00:49:38,776 --> 00:49:41,906
I watch you go across the, the floor-
I mean, I always have a toy too

1364
00:49:41,906 --> 00:49:46,116
and, and talk to somebody, and, and
then eventually y'all go to the back.

1365
00:49:46,116 --> 00:49:46,386
Yeah.

1366
00:49:46,416 --> 00:49:50,904
The problem is, is that as, as a guy
by myself, I can't go back there-

1367
00:49:50,904 --> 00:49:52,176
You cannot … and, and watch you.

1368
00:49:52,196 --> 00:49:52,526
No.

1369
00:49:52,816 --> 00:49:55,226
Uh, I have to have a female
companion to go back there.

1370
00:49:55,226 --> 00:49:55,676
Yeah.

1371
00:49:55,766 --> 00:49:57,366
So you would go back there.

1372
00:49:57,366 --> 00:49:59,296
You'd have your fun, and I wouldn't
be able to scope it out- Yeah

1373
00:49:59,306 --> 00:50:00,026
unless I'm with you.

1374
00:50:00,196 --> 00:50:03,946
I… And I can go back there,
and I can… I have a toy.

1375
00:50:04,076 --> 00:50:04,436
Yeah.

1376
00:50:04,516 --> 00:50:06,336
Like, I can go back there with my toy.

1377
00:50:06,366 --> 00:50:07,261
And sit there and watch.

1378
00:50:07,261 --> 00:50:10,586
And be like, I wouldn't e- I mean, you
might be even c- like, in a little cubby.

1379
00:50:11,286 --> 00:50:12,006
I don't care.

1380
00:50:12,896 --> 00:50:15,226
Like, I'd be like, "My man's
somewhere back here. When he

1381
00:50:15,226 --> 00:50:16,916
pops out of these curtains…"

1382
00:50:17,046 --> 00:50:17,386
Yeah.

1383
00:50:17,876 --> 00:50:19,766
You know, it's, it's, it's- It's
kind of hot … it really is.

1384
00:50:19,796 --> 00:50:21,256
The experience is hot.

1385
00:50:21,296 --> 00:50:24,886
And again, we don't know- Until
you try it … until we try it.

1386
00:50:24,886 --> 00:50:25,246
Yeah.

1387
00:50:25,346 --> 00:50:25,746
I know.

1388
00:50:25,776 --> 00:50:26,156
You know?

1389
00:50:26,166 --> 00:50:28,756
And, and you know, I've,
I've come to the thought.

1390
00:50:29,326 --> 00:50:30,696
Like, that's how hot it is.

1391
00:50:30,706 --> 00:50:30,726
Yeah.

1392
00:50:30,746 --> 00:50:35,366
I have jacked off and come to
that thought- Yeah … of I want,

1393
00:50:35,506 --> 00:50:38,716
I want this to happen this way,
or I wanna, I wanna do this.

1394
00:50:38,746 --> 00:50:43,236
And I've had… We've sat there and
people-watched, and I've had this whole

1395
00:50:43,246 --> 00:50:46,616
thing play out in my head like, "This
is what I wanna do." You should- "How

1396
00:50:46,616 --> 00:50:48,726
the hell am I gonna do it?" You should-
And then I don't say shit … you

1397
00:50:48,726 --> 00:50:51,486
know, you should be like- I don't say
nothing … "Hey, how, how are you

1398
00:50:51,496 --> 00:50:54,478
feeling right now?" I'm feeling good.

1399
00:50:54,678 --> 00:50:55,038
Yeah.

1400
00:50:55,118 --> 00:50:55,558
Okay.

1401
00:50:56,208 --> 00:50:57,468
I'm gonna go try this, okay?

1402
00:50:57,538 --> 00:50:57,868
Okay.

1403
00:50:58,108 --> 00:51:00,938
So it's gotta be right, it's gotta
be the right people there, it's gotta

1404
00:51:00,938 --> 00:51:04,138
be the r- I, I gotta fe- be feeling-
You gotta be feeling … good.

1405
00:51:04,148 --> 00:51:04,168
Yeah.

1406
00:51:04,178 --> 00:51:04,608
You know?

1407
00:51:04,608 --> 00:51:07,418
It's, it's not just, uh, not-
Not just me … just you.

1408
00:51:07,448 --> 00:51:07,728
Yeah.

1409
00:51:07,728 --> 00:51:08,168
Mm-hmm.

1410
00:51:08,168 --> 00:51:11,668
And it's the same thing, like, we've
talked about where, you know, we'll

1411
00:51:11,668 --> 00:51:14,418
be talking about, "You're gonna do
this," and, "Oh, yeah, I'm gonna

1412
00:51:14,418 --> 00:51:16,478
talk to this person, I'm gonna take
them to the back," and whatnot.

1413
00:51:16,478 --> 00:51:19,898
And then as soon as we get there, it's
like neither one of us is feeling that.

1414
00:51:19,908 --> 00:51:20,378
Yeah.

1415
00:51:20,588 --> 00:51:22,178
And we just kinda cling to each other.

1416
00:51:22,178 --> 00:51:22,598
I think it's just a fear of… Yeah.

1417
00:51:22,598 --> 00:51:23,338
It's scary.

1418
00:51:23,338 --> 00:51:23,418
It is.

1419
00:51:23,418 --> 00:51:28,278
It is scary because you're doing
something that y- we've never really-

1420
00:51:28,328 --> 00:51:31,938
But it's- … done … it is kinda hot,
so we should really try to have that.

1421
00:51:32,088 --> 00:51:36,628
That's a, that's something that we,
that we fantasize about, so we should

1422
00:51:36,628 --> 00:51:37,728
really try to make that happen.

1423
00:51:37,758 --> 00:51:40,138
It's so funny because we've come so far.

1424
00:51:40,578 --> 00:51:46,038
You used to think that this, uh, this
solo play was because I didn't wanna

1425
00:51:46,048 --> 00:51:47,858
have sex in front of you or whatever.

1426
00:51:47,858 --> 00:51:48,168
Yeah.

1427
00:51:48,458 --> 00:51:50,848
But now you're realizing it's, it's hot.

1428
00:51:50,898 --> 00:51:51,308
It's hot.

1429
00:51:51,358 --> 00:51:55,118
Like, there's a hotness- Yeah … to it
that- There's nothing that you can do

1430
00:51:55,128 --> 00:51:58,988
that's, that behind a curtain that I'm
gonna be wondering about is he doing.

1431
00:51:59,278 --> 00:52:03,068
I'll be like… You know, life's
too short to obsess over stuff.

1432
00:52:03,068 --> 00:52:03,338
Yeah.

1433
00:52:03,338 --> 00:52:03,598
You know?

1434
00:52:03,598 --> 00:52:06,645
It's like you know how I feel about
us- The way you… Exactly … and,

1435
00:52:06,645 --> 00:52:09,588
and- The way you fuck me is not the
same way you fuck everybody else.

1436
00:52:10,598 --> 00:52:11,198
This is true.

1437
00:52:11,428 --> 00:52:14,368
I don't care if it's just the same
three moves, they're different with me.

1438
00:52:15,198 --> 00:52:15,978
That's a fact.

1439
00:52:16,858 --> 00:52:17,096
That is a fact.

1440
00:52:17,096 --> 00:52:19,588
So yeah, no, that insecurity is not there.

1441
00:52:19,828 --> 00:52:20,818
We should definitely try that.

1442
00:52:20,838 --> 00:52:21,538
That would be fun.

1443
00:52:22,018 --> 00:52:23,118
Baby steps, yeah.

1444
00:52:23,168 --> 00:52:26,068
So as you can see, we still have
experiences that we're- Oh, yeah

1445
00:52:26,218 --> 00:52:27,768
… working on having as well, you know?

1446
00:52:27,768 --> 00:52:32,528
Um, I, I feel like you're starting
to explore more of the hot wife

1447
00:52:32,678 --> 00:52:34,248
role- Yeah … a little bit more.

1448
00:52:34,378 --> 00:52:36,528
I told you, like, if, I was
like, "If I plan it and have it

1449
00:52:36,538 --> 00:52:38,248
scheduled, it's all good." Yeah.

1450
00:52:38,698 --> 00:52:38,988
Yes.

1451
00:52:39,188 --> 00:52:39,478
Yeah.

1452
00:52:39,508 --> 00:52:43,128
So y- I thought you thought,
uh, spontaneity was hot.

1453
00:52:43,178 --> 00:52:47,968
It is, but I'm a busy person, so
spontaneity at the club is good, but

1454
00:52:49,198 --> 00:52:53,588
personally, like, in my, you know, having
to set it up outside of the club- Yeah

1455
00:52:53,648 --> 00:52:54,468
is hard.

1456
00:52:54,578 --> 00:52:54,898
Yeah.

1457
00:52:54,978 --> 00:52:55,958
But it's fun.

1458
00:52:56,148 --> 00:52:56,438
Yeah.

1459
00:52:56,438 --> 00:52:57,288
But it's hard.

1460
00:52:57,368 --> 00:53:03,018
Now, y- uh, kinda switching up a
little bit and going back to listeners'

1461
00:53:03,048 --> 00:53:07,678
inquiries about us, uh, I know that
there's a lot of people who, uh, reach

1462
00:53:07,678 --> 00:53:09,608
out throughout since we've been around.

1463
00:53:09,918 --> 00:53:10,178
Mm-hmm.

1464
00:53:10,268 --> 00:53:11,638
Uh, interested in you.

1465
00:53:11,968 --> 00:53:12,488
Mm-hmm.

1466
00:53:12,658 --> 00:53:19,508
And, uh, I'm curious, are
you open for business?

1467
00:53:20,558 --> 00:53:21,568
I don't mean it like that.

1468
00:53:21,838 --> 00:53:29,518
But, like, uh, not, not talking sexually,
um, but are you open to entertaining

1469
00:53:29,528 --> 00:53:31,358
any kind of relationship with a woman?

1470
00:53:33,158 --> 00:53:33,698
Yes.

1471
00:53:33,918 --> 00:53:34,308
Really?

1472
00:53:34,538 --> 00:53:34,868
Yeah.

1473
00:53:36,348 --> 00:53:41,038
Now, would you entertain a relationship
with a woman who has listened to the show?

1474
00:53:43,574 --> 00:53:46,132
Yeah Yeah Why not?

1475
00:53:46,172 --> 00:53:47,092
I don't think it would make a difference.

1476
00:53:47,142 --> 00:53:50,312
Well, you know, uh, I think we've
talked about it, and we've kinda

1477
00:53:50,322 --> 00:53:53,972
gone back and forth because some
people, uh, you know- Oh, God

1478
00:53:53,972 --> 00:53:55,082
you've gotta question their motives.

1479
00:53:55,412 --> 00:53:55,802
Yeah.

1480
00:53:55,852 --> 00:53:56,012
Uh.

1481
00:53:56,012 --> 00:53:56,812
No, I wouldn't care.

1482
00:53:57,672 --> 00:53:57,812
Yeah.

1483
00:53:57,812 --> 00:53:58,382
I wouldn't care.

1484
00:53:58,782 --> 00:53:59,042
Yeah.

1485
00:53:59,382 --> 00:54:02,962
But you would be down for a, a
woman-on-woman- Oh, yeah … like

1486
00:54:02,962 --> 00:54:04,282
a romantic relationship?

1487
00:54:05,842 --> 00:54:06,422
Maybe.

1488
00:54:06,432 --> 00:54:10,002
Oh, that's the big R. The big R. Maybe.

1489
00:54:10,192 --> 00:54:11,952
Oh, maybe.

1490
00:54:11,962 --> 00:54:11,972
Oh.

1491
00:54:12,062 --> 00:54:12,412
Yeah?

1492
00:54:12,542 --> 00:54:12,842
Yeah.

1493
00:54:12,932 --> 00:54:13,372
Maybe.

1494
00:54:13,692 --> 00:54:14,332
Wow.

1495
00:54:15,082 --> 00:54:15,822
Maybe.

1496
00:54:15,992 --> 00:54:17,512
Let's push this to the extreme.

1497
00:54:17,842 --> 00:54:21,872
Would you ever have
someone move in with us- No

1498
00:54:21,872 --> 00:54:23,322
like a sexual roommate?

1499
00:54:23,332 --> 00:54:23,362
Nope.

1500
00:54:23,572 --> 00:54:23,902
Never.

1501
00:54:23,902 --> 00:54:24,672
No romance.

1502
00:54:24,682 --> 00:54:25,062
No.

1503
00:54:25,112 --> 00:54:26,062
Sexual roommate.

1504
00:54:26,102 --> 00:54:26,362
Nope.

1505
00:54:26,882 --> 00:54:28,152
Sexual roommate.

1506
00:54:28,202 --> 00:54:28,472
No.

1507
00:54:28,472 --> 00:54:29,902
Nobody can ever move in with us.

1508
00:54:29,902 --> 00:54:30,142
Thank God.

1509
00:54:30,142 --> 00:54:31,412
I'm trying to get rid of people.

1510
00:54:31,682 --> 00:54:32,022
Yeah.

1511
00:54:32,022 --> 00:54:32,072
Nope.

1512
00:54:32,072 --> 00:54:34,752
But, you know, I'm talking adults
that help contribute to the bills.

1513
00:54:34,782 --> 00:54:35,132
No.

1514
00:54:35,742 --> 00:54:36,012
No.

1515
00:54:36,112 --> 00:54:36,382
No?

1516
00:54:36,442 --> 00:54:36,822
No.

1517
00:54:37,162 --> 00:54:37,292
Okay.

1518
00:54:38,442 --> 00:54:39,922
We've actually talked about that before.

1519
00:54:39,932 --> 00:54:40,802
Be- oh, years ago.

1520
00:54:40,802 --> 00:54:41,032
Yeah.

1521
00:54:41,032 --> 00:54:42,272
I, I can't live with people.

1522
00:54:42,272 --> 00:54:42,542
No.

1523
00:54:42,552 --> 00:54:43,872
I, I can't live with other people.

1524
00:54:43,872 --> 00:54:46,102
I get very, um… I don't know.

1525
00:54:46,102 --> 00:54:49,382
It, it's novel- I'm territorial
… it's novel for a day or two,

1526
00:54:49,382 --> 00:54:52,042
but then eventually I'm like,
"God, why are they here?" Yeah.

1527
00:54:52,042 --> 00:54:53,352
I'm trying to watch TV.

1528
00:54:53,392 --> 00:54:53,712
Yeah.

1529
00:54:53,712 --> 00:54:53,822
No.

1530
00:54:53,822 --> 00:54:56,392
Like, I'm very, very, uh,
dominant about my space.

1531
00:54:56,402 --> 00:54:56,882
Yes.

1532
00:54:57,342 --> 00:54:57,702
No.

1533
00:54:57,882 --> 00:54:58,572
And I'm the same.

1534
00:54:59,212 --> 00:54:59,612
Yeah.

1535
00:54:59,852 --> 00:55:05,232
I, I feel like having somebody
around sexually, um, they

1536
00:55:05,232 --> 00:55:06,272
can go back home afterwards.

1537
00:55:07,962 --> 00:55:08,322
They don't have to stay.

1538
00:55:08,322 --> 00:55:09,222
You gonna hit it and quit it?

1539
00:55:09,532 --> 00:55:10,332
They don't have to stay.

1540
00:55:10,402 --> 00:55:10,722
No.

1541
00:55:10,912 --> 00:55:13,402
What about separate quarters
but lived on the same- No.

1542
00:55:15,292 --> 00:55:15,522
Jesus.

1543
00:55:15,522 --> 00:55:16,102
Take it easy.

1544
00:55:16,102 --> 00:55:16,812
It's a question.

1545
00:55:16,812 --> 00:55:20,882
I'm not asking like, uh, there's somebody
outside right now waiting with a U-Haul.

1546
00:55:21,592 --> 00:55:23,032
This is just a hypothetical.

1547
00:55:23,612 --> 00:55:23,642
Okay.

1548
00:55:23,642 --> 00:55:24,932
There's nobody outside.

1549
00:55:25,422 --> 00:55:25,742
No.

1550
00:55:26,032 --> 00:55:28,932
Not moving… But, you know,
we went from talking about a

1551
00:55:28,932 --> 00:55:32,232
possible, uh, WLW relationship.

1552
00:55:32,522 --> 00:55:33,002
No.

1553
00:55:33,072 --> 00:55:36,822
Um, and, you know, sometimes- What's WLW?

1554
00:55:36,832 --> 00:55:37,762
Women love women.

1555
00:55:39,932 --> 00:55:43,852
And, and, you know, that- I think every
woman loves a woman … you've always

1556
00:55:43,852 --> 00:55:46,182
told me women tend to move very fast.

1557
00:55:46,312 --> 00:55:46,942
No.

1558
00:55:47,082 --> 00:55:48,542
Nobody can move in with us.

1559
00:55:48,562 --> 00:55:51,392
Like our good friend Dom, uh,
who we've had on the show.

1560
00:55:51,392 --> 00:55:51,612
Yeah.

1561
00:55:51,622 --> 00:55:52,612
You know, she's got a husband.

1562
00:55:52,622 --> 00:55:52,862
Uh-huh.

1563
00:55:52,922 --> 00:55:56,932
And she's got a girlfriend, and that
girlfriend relationship is very serious.

1564
00:55:57,382 --> 00:55:59,652
Uh, could you ever do something like that?

1565
00:56:00,272 --> 00:56:01,442
Could you entertain that?

1566
00:56:01,682 --> 00:56:04,252
Now, like- Yes … l- you've
seen exactly what they have.

1567
00:56:04,252 --> 00:56:05,372
Like, that is love.

1568
00:56:05,372 --> 00:56:05,512
Que amore.

1569
00:56:05,512 --> 00:56:08,032
I think that's so cool.

1570
00:56:08,062 --> 00:56:11,042
Um… Like, sh- they're really
in love with each other.

1571
00:56:11,042 --> 00:56:12,922
No, I don't, uh- Like, that's heavy stuff.

1572
00:56:13,032 --> 00:56:13,252
Romantic.

1573
00:56:13,932 --> 00:56:15,292
Stop being messy, Adam.

1574
00:56:15,292 --> 00:56:15,792
Romantic.

1575
00:56:15,842 --> 00:56:16,562
What did I tell you?

1576
00:56:16,562 --> 00:56:18,672
What did you tell, she
tell… Stop being messy.

1577
00:56:18,672 --> 00:56:19,182
She said I'm messy.

1578
00:56:19,182 --> 00:56:19,692
She said I'm messy.

1579
00:56:19,692 --> 00:56:23,722
Um, I think if it's done correctly, yes.

1580
00:56:24,222 --> 00:56:30,782
I'm… it's very hard for me to give
so much of myself to somebody else.

1581
00:56:30,792 --> 00:56:32,922
Like, I don't know how to balance that.

1582
00:56:32,942 --> 00:56:36,422
Like, I am a… Yes, I'm
non-monogamous, but I am a

1583
00:56:36,632 --> 00:56:38,762
full… You have my whole heart.

1584
00:56:39,592 --> 00:56:43,142
So I don't know- If you could
make room for somebody else?

1585
00:56:43,402 --> 00:56:46,226
… if I can make room for
somebody else like that.

1586
00:56:46,496 --> 00:56:50,506
I find the, I find it fun.

1587
00:56:50,936 --> 00:56:51,546
I like it.

1588
00:56:51,546 --> 00:56:55,826
I see it and I'm like, "Oh,
that's so cool." But they travel.

1589
00:56:55,856 --> 00:56:57,566
They, they- Yeah … you know,
they live in different states.

1590
00:56:57,566 --> 00:56:59,096
They spend weekends together.

1591
00:56:59,106 --> 00:57:00,466
They spend weekends together.

1592
00:57:00,466 --> 00:57:00,606
Sometimes more.

1593
00:57:00,606 --> 00:57:05,336
Um, I think maybe when
we're empty nesters.

1594
00:57:05,396 --> 00:57:05,666
Yeah.

1595
00:57:05,696 --> 00:57:06,786
Maybe.

1596
00:57:07,296 --> 00:57:10,956
But- I think part of the problem
too is that we're always stressed.

1597
00:57:11,356 --> 00:57:12,366
We're always strapped.

1598
00:57:12,366 --> 00:57:12,496
Yeah.

1599
00:57:12,556 --> 00:57:14,616
We- we- it's always financially strapped.

1600
00:57:14,616 --> 00:57:14,636
Yeah.

1601
00:57:14,636 --> 00:57:16,176
So I think- We've always
got some sort of stress.

1602
00:57:16,246 --> 00:57:17,226
You can't really enjoy yourself.

1603
00:57:17,236 --> 00:57:17,556
Yeah.

1604
00:57:17,556 --> 00:57:21,246
So I think if life, when life
gets a little easier, m- maybe.

1605
00:57:22,416 --> 00:57:23,396
But that's a maybe.

1606
00:57:23,396 --> 00:57:24,586
That's a big maybe, huh?

1607
00:57:24,646 --> 00:57:25,186
It is.

1608
00:57:25,416 --> 00:57:25,816
Yeah.

1609
00:57:25,846 --> 00:57:27,926
So you think that you
could entertain a- Maybe

1610
00:57:27,946 --> 00:57:30,706
a romantic relationship like that?

1611
00:57:30,706 --> 00:57:30,746
Maybe.

1612
00:57:30,746 --> 00:57:31,316
That'd be interesting.

1613
00:57:31,326 --> 00:57:32,576
I would love to see that.

1614
00:57:32,576 --> 00:57:33,386
I know you would.

1615
00:57:33,546 --> 00:57:36,656
I… And you know, there was a time
where I wouldn't entertain that

1616
00:57:36,656 --> 00:57:39,496
without being able to say, "Well,
I wanna date somebody." Yeah.

1617
00:57:39,606 --> 00:57:40,336
But I don't wanna date anybody, bro.

1618
00:57:40,336 --> 00:57:40,376
Yeah.

1619
00:57:40,376 --> 00:57:41,776
I don't wanna date anybody, bro.

1620
00:57:42,716 --> 00:57:42,836
Um, I,

1621
00:57:46,496 --> 00:57:51,686
I, I just don't, I don't think I'm
interested in that so much- Yeah

1622
00:57:51,686 --> 00:57:55,156
… anymore, um, the romantic… I don't know.

1623
00:57:55,156 --> 00:57:59,146
I think, I think it's just been the
tr- the trauma throughout the years

1624
00:57:59,166 --> 00:58:02,926
of talking- Yeah … polyamory-
Yeah … and our experiences

1625
00:58:02,926 --> 00:58:05,336
together, and feeling uncomfortable.

1626
00:58:05,336 --> 00:58:08,426
And the last thing I ever
wanna do is make you feel hurt.

1627
00:58:08,436 --> 00:58:09,286
Yeah, you do not like that.

1628
00:58:09,346 --> 00:58:11,746
I don't like you to be hurt by my actions.

1629
00:58:11,756 --> 00:58:11,776
Yeah.

1630
00:58:11,786 --> 00:58:13,366
I don't like to see you hurt.

1631
00:58:13,446 --> 00:58:15,336
I don't like to see
you feel a certain way.

1632
00:58:15,336 --> 00:58:20,186
So, you know, those make any stupid
decisions that I've made in the

1633
00:58:20,186 --> 00:58:23,636
past very, um, traumatic for me.

1634
00:58:23,646 --> 00:58:23,666
Yeah.

1635
00:58:23,676 --> 00:58:25,839
So I'm like, "Don't do that
again," you know what I mean?

1636
00:58:25,839 --> 00:58:26,276
Yeah, yeah.

1637
00:58:26,276 --> 00:58:26,486
No.

1638
00:58:26,546 --> 00:58:30,886
Um, and so like even the sexual
portion, like we were just talking

1639
00:58:30,886 --> 00:58:34,966
about, you know, me walking away from
you and going to- Yeah … proposition

1640
00:58:34,966 --> 00:58:36,446
somebody else just sexually.

1641
00:58:37,076 --> 00:58:40,386
I struggle with that because
I don't want you to feel hurt.

1642
00:58:40,406 --> 00:58:43,016
I don't want you to f- Yeah … be
scared or anything like that.

1643
00:58:43,016 --> 00:58:43,026
Yeah.

1644
00:58:43,026 --> 00:58:44,186
I wanna protect you from all that.

1645
00:58:44,736 --> 00:58:48,506
Uh, so if at one point you would be like,
"You know what? I'm gonna entertain this,

1646
00:58:48,536 --> 00:58:53,371
and you know, if you wanna see somebody,
you can too," I don't think I would.

1647
00:58:53,371 --> 00:58:54,306
I don't think you would.

1648
00:58:54,306 --> 00:58:55,196
I don't think I would.

1649
00:58:55,206 --> 00:58:58,556
Honestly, I'm at this point
where solitude is kinda nice.

1650
00:58:58,666 --> 00:58:58,956
Yeah.

1651
00:58:59,036 --> 00:59:00,006
Uh, I'd be like, "Yeah- And I mean, I-

1652
00:59:00,006 --> 00:59:02,636
go ahead and enjoy yourself." It was…
It, it… And you know, I dated women,

1653
00:59:02,676 --> 00:59:08,196
and I, I didn't, I didn't care for it, but
I don't think they were the right women.

1654
00:59:08,566 --> 00:59:12,536
Well, you also just jumped
at whatever came across you.

1655
00:59:12,536 --> 00:59:12,566
Yeah.

1656
00:59:12,566 --> 00:59:14,016
I don't think they were the right women.

1657
00:59:14,016 --> 00:59:16,416
Like, I really, I would do, like

1658
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:19,550
I don't know.

1659
00:59:19,550 --> 00:59:21,220
They would have to be
a really good friend.

1660
00:59:21,780 --> 00:59:24,900
Well, and you're also a different
person on how you communicate now-

1661
00:59:24,910 --> 00:59:26,280
Yes … and what you look for.

1662
00:59:26,300 --> 00:59:31,860
And, um, you know, I think if you were
to find it, it would be more or less

1663
00:59:31,870 --> 00:59:35,770
organic- Yeah … rather than those other
ones where you just kind of forced it.

1664
00:59:35,860 --> 00:59:36,060
Yeah.

1665
00:59:36,070 --> 00:59:39,880
I think you were forcing it because
you saw that I was doing it- Yeah

1666
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,900
and you wanted to make sure that
we were both doing it, you know?

1667
00:59:42,900 --> 00:59:43,100
Yeah.

1668
00:59:43,110 --> 00:59:44,420
So that there wasn't any bad feels.

1669
00:59:44,420 --> 00:59:44,760
And you too.

1670
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,520
You were like, "Go. You need to
go. Go find someone." Oh, I pushed.

1671
00:59:47,570 --> 00:59:47,790
Oh, yeah.

1672
00:59:47,790 --> 00:59:50,080
I pushed because- So, I mean- … it
made me feel less guilty.

1673
00:59:50,090 --> 00:59:50,640
Yes.

1674
00:59:50,740 --> 00:59:50,960
Yeah.

1675
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:51,270
Yeah.

1676
00:59:51,340 --> 00:59:51,560
Yeah.

1677
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:57,730
Um, but this time around, I
really do… I value the solitude.

1678
00:59:57,740 --> 00:59:58,140
Yeah.

1679
00:59:58,180 --> 01:00:01,250
And it's, and we're kind of like, "Eh,
let's just go with the flow. Whatever

1680
01:00:01,250 --> 01:00:02,760
happens, kinda happens." I like organic.

1681
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:06,610
I think organic is, is very nice,
and we have really two organic

1682
01:00:06,980 --> 01:00:09,050
friendships that are really, really fun.

1683
01:00:09,060 --> 01:00:12,880
Like- Yeah … it's, um, it's nice.

1684
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:14,400
It's nice.

1685
01:00:14,460 --> 01:00:16,700
Now, could either one
of those turn romantic?

1686
01:00:21,728 --> 01:00:22,688
I could see it.

1687
01:00:22,818 --> 01:00:25,228
Yeah That it probably
could at some point maybe.

1688
01:00:25,388 --> 01:00:25,558
Hm.

1689
01:00:25,968 --> 01:00:26,398
Yeah.

1690
01:00:27,908 --> 01:00:28,018
Just never know.

1691
01:00:28,018 --> 01:00:28,738
You just never know.

1692
01:00:28,768 --> 01:00:29,218
You never know.

1693
01:00:29,218 --> 01:00:33,178
You know, you never know what, where
people's lives are taking them and, and

1694
01:00:33,188 --> 01:00:40,708
I think that it's just, it's a fun…
It's fun right now, and wherever it takes

1695
01:00:40,708 --> 01:00:42,098
us, I think it's gonna just be more fun.

1696
01:00:42,738 --> 01:00:43,078
Yeah.

1697
01:00:43,078 --> 01:00:47,608
You know, I've noticed that there are a
lot of, uh, a lot of the content creators

1698
01:00:47,608 --> 01:00:53,898
that I follow, uh, start out as swingers,
and then as they research more and as they

1699
01:00:53,898 --> 01:00:58,108
get to know the community more and things
like that, uh, things open up a bit more.

1700
01:00:58,508 --> 01:00:59,128
Yeah.

1701
01:00:59,268 --> 01:01:02,738
I guess people kind of grow
emotionally, they grow mentally- Yeah

1702
01:01:02,738 --> 01:01:05,138
and they grow in their relationship,
and things just kinda change.

1703
01:01:05,138 --> 01:01:05,248
Mm-hmm.

1704
01:01:05,768 --> 01:01:06,848
Um, and who knows?

1705
01:01:07,518 --> 01:01:07,928
See when- Who knows?

1706
01:01:07,928 --> 01:01:09,058
You never know where it goes.

1707
01:01:09,278 --> 01:01:09,368
That's right.

1708
01:01:09,378 --> 01:01:12,458
But I, I, I'm a big believer
in not pushing anymore.

1709
01:01:12,468 --> 01:01:12,488
Yeah.

1710
01:01:12,498 --> 01:01:13,718
And I, and I see that a lot.

1711
01:01:13,718 --> 01:01:17,018
I see a lot of men pushing their
spouses, and I see a lot of women

1712
01:01:17,158 --> 01:01:20,908
pushing their spouses, uh, to do
things that maybe their spouses are

1713
01:01:20,908 --> 01:01:23,358
not quite on page with, not- Yeah

1714
01:01:23,368 --> 01:01:24,238
quite comfortable with.

1715
01:01:24,758 --> 01:01:27,608
Um, and you know, it, I, my
reaction's always the same.

1716
01:01:27,608 --> 01:01:31,808
"Hey, just, just take it easy. Don't
push. You can have conversations."

1717
01:01:32,028 --> 01:01:33,568
Let them have their own voices too.

1718
01:01:33,618 --> 01:01:34,438
Let them have their own voices.

1719
01:01:34,438 --> 01:01:37,548
So I do not like if I'm in the,
like, we're, we're playing and he,

1720
01:01:37,618 --> 01:01:41,338
um, me and Adam are playing and
a guy's like, "Can my wife join?"

1721
01:01:41,438 --> 01:01:42,958
Excuse me, your wife has a voice.

1722
01:01:43,808 --> 01:01:44,098
Yeah.

1723
01:01:44,098 --> 01:01:46,688
Let your wife be the one to
be like, "Can I join?" Yeah.

1724
01:01:46,688 --> 01:01:50,718
You know, that, and that kinda raises the
age-old question that we've been asked

1725
01:01:50,728 --> 01:01:55,868
before, which is, you know, who should
proposition who when it comes to couples?

1726
01:01:56,218 --> 01:01:59,008
The person who wants to play.

1727
01:01:59,828 --> 01:02:04,528
So, you know, most times because
Adam's very vocal, he's like,

1728
01:02:04,528 --> 01:02:06,108
"Hey," like, "do y'all wanna play?"

1729
01:02:06,668 --> 01:02:10,198
But honestly, it's been
a lot of the other side.

1730
01:02:10,508 --> 01:02:13,548
The other side has propositioned us and,
you know, it's either the guy or the girl,

1731
01:02:13,548 --> 01:02:17,738
but talking to both of us being like, "Do
y'all wanna go to the back?" "Yeah." Sure.

1732
01:02:17,868 --> 01:02:20,688
Um, so I think it just depends.

1733
01:02:21,468 --> 01:02:22,288
Don't be pushy, though.

1734
01:02:22,288 --> 01:02:28,118
Like, I do not like, "Can my wife join?"
No, mijito, that's not the way it works.

1735
01:02:28,208 --> 01:02:33,298
Your wife needs to be the one to be
like, "Hey, can I, can I play?" Yeah.

1736
01:02:33,338 --> 01:02:34,778
I think that's pretty good advice.

1737
01:02:35,368 --> 01:02:36,278
That's pretty good advice.

1738
01:02:36,588 --> 01:02:39,838
Uh, you know, uh, there's couples
out there who really feel like you've

1739
01:02:39,848 --> 01:02:43,668
gotta have the woman only talks to the
woman, the man only talks to the man.

1740
01:02:43,748 --> 01:02:43,958
Uh-huh.

1741
01:02:43,958 --> 01:02:47,048
And I think there's a lot of
confusion there as far as, well,

1742
01:02:47,068 --> 01:02:49,058
who should proposition who.

1743
01:02:49,258 --> 01:02:49,538
Yeah.

1744
01:02:49,618 --> 01:02:52,578
Uh, especially if it's like a full
swap couple on couple kinda thing.

1745
01:02:53,018 --> 01:03:02,118
Um, now if we are a couple and we're
looking for a single female, do

1746
01:03:02,138 --> 01:03:05,188
you look for that in other couples?

1747
01:03:06,188 --> 01:03:08,158
You know, um, I don't know.

1748
01:03:08,248 --> 01:03:10,478
I, I- I see that a lot … so I-

1749
01:03:12,578 --> 01:03:17,068
I can play, we both can play
separately if we're comfortable.

1750
01:03:17,168 --> 01:03:17,458
Yeah.

1751
01:03:17,718 --> 01:03:21,748
And I do not mind ever playing
with a couple by myself.

1752
01:03:22,728 --> 01:03:28,866
But I think you just have to, I don't
know … 'cause I've seen a lot of couples

1753
01:03:28,866 --> 01:03:35,696
who have posted that they're looking
for single females only, but then they

1754
01:03:35,696 --> 01:03:39,966
start hitting on couples The, the woman
of the couple or- Yeah … the couple

1755
01:03:39,966 --> 01:03:42,436
itself And then it's like, well, what
are you, what are you trying to do?

1756
01:03:42,536 --> 01:03:45,856
Yeah Like, if you're, if you, if
these are your intentions and you're

1757
01:03:45,856 --> 01:03:49,166
just going for a couple that you
find attractive in hopes- Yeah

1758
01:03:49,226 --> 01:03:51,916
that the woman will be like, "Okay." Yeah.

1759
01:03:52,006 --> 01:03:54,016
"I'll give it up." You
know, that sort of thing.

1760
01:03:54,016 --> 01:03:54,516
Or the guy.

1761
01:03:54,546 --> 01:04:00,966
I mean, I've seen, I've seen a guy really
tread on the couple, but for the guy.

1762
01:04:01,656 --> 01:04:02,126
No shit.

1763
01:04:02,146 --> 01:04:02,556
Yeah.

1764
01:04:02,766 --> 01:04:02,846
Wow.

1765
01:04:02,856 --> 01:04:03,956
And then try to flip 'em.

1766
01:04:05,216 --> 01:04:05,986
Like, literally?

1767
01:04:06,046 --> 01:04:08,596
No, you know, like trying to
be like- Oh, figuratively.

1768
01:04:08,596 --> 01:04:09,026
Yeah.

1769
01:04:09,126 --> 01:04:09,536
Yeah.

1770
01:04:09,576 --> 01:04:09,896
You know.

1771
01:04:10,246 --> 01:04:10,946
Switch sides.

1772
01:04:10,956 --> 01:04:12,316
How do you know you're not bi?

1773
01:04:14,366 --> 01:04:14,626
Yeah.

1774
01:04:14,666 --> 01:04:15,096
You know.

1775
01:04:15,816 --> 01:04:16,366
You just know.

1776
01:04:16,416 --> 01:04:16,636
Mm-hmm.

1777
01:04:17,486 --> 01:04:21,086
You just know when you- But yeah
… you aren't turned on by penises.

1778
01:04:21,526 --> 01:04:21,836
Penii?

1779
01:04:22,136 --> 01:04:22,386
Yeah.

1780
01:04:22,446 --> 01:04:22,836
Penii.

1781
01:04:23,216 --> 01:04:23,706
Penises.

1782
01:04:24,026 --> 01:04:24,166
Yeah.

1783
01:04:24,626 --> 01:04:24,866
Yeah.

1784
01:04:24,976 --> 01:04:29,226
So anyways, uh, you know,
this was a fun conversation.

1785
01:04:29,236 --> 01:04:29,816
It was.

1786
01:04:30,226 --> 01:04:30,576
This is nice.

1787
01:04:30,576 --> 01:04:30,606
It always is.

1788
01:04:30,606 --> 01:04:31,486
This is what happens.

1789
01:04:31,516 --> 01:04:34,066
You know, honestly, these are all the
questions that I would've asked you

1790
01:04:34,366 --> 01:04:36,256
while we were driving later on today, so.

1791
01:04:36,266 --> 01:04:36,526
Yeah.

1792
01:04:36,676 --> 01:04:40,906
Uh, why not just hit record and
see where the magic takes us?

1793
01:04:41,186 --> 01:04:44,266
You know, we're gonna go
ahead and wrap up here.

1794
01:04:44,276 --> 01:04:46,916
Thanks everybody for
listening to us as always.

1795
01:04:46,926 --> 01:04:50,466
If you like this show and
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1796
01:04:50,466 --> 01:04:52,256
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1797
01:04:52,496 --> 01:04:56,486
Hit that like button, subscribe,
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1798
01:04:56,826 --> 01:04:57,706
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1799
01:04:57,716 --> 01:04:59,666
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1800
01:04:59,676 --> 01:05:00,426
You know you do.

1801
01:05:00,866 --> 01:05:06,696
And also, you know that you can catch
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1802
01:05:06,696 --> 01:05:08,936
at 2:00 PM and 7:00 PM Central.

1803
01:05:09,496 --> 01:05:11,796
Uh, it's, it's us.

1804
01:05:12,046 --> 01:05:12,696
What can I say?

1805
01:05:12,776 --> 01:05:14,986
Along with a lot of other podcasters.

1806
01:05:14,986 --> 01:05:15,093
Yes.

1807
01:05:15,093 --> 01:05:15,736
Uh, you can scope 'em out.

1808
01:05:15,736 --> 01:05:21,376
Don't forget to go to our website,
www.beyond-monogamy.com to find

1809
01:05:21,416 --> 01:05:25,726
all of our episodes, blog, merch,
and of course our confessional.

1810
01:05:25,866 --> 01:05:26,516
It is anonymous.

1811
01:05:26,516 --> 01:05:26,536
Yeah.

1812
01:05:26,536 --> 01:05:30,846
100%. 100%. And if you like, you can
just let us know that we can read

1813
01:05:30,846 --> 01:05:32,386
it on the show and we will do that.

1814
01:05:32,646 --> 01:05:33,196
That's right.

1815
01:05:33,276 --> 01:05:35,416
It creates interesting shows.

1816
01:05:35,426 --> 01:05:35,456
Yes.

1817
01:05:35,466 --> 01:05:37,376
And again, you can always
find us on YouTube, guys.

1818
01:05:37,376 --> 01:05:40,836
So if y'all are listening on
the radio on your way to work,

1819
01:05:41,656 --> 01:05:42,756
remember, you can watch us too.

1820
01:05:43,356 --> 01:05:45,576
That's right, and if you're
listening, you're probably gonna

1821
01:05:45,576 --> 01:05:47,266
miss this booby shake right now.

1822
01:05:47,286 --> 01:05:48,326
Let's see 'em go.

1823
01:05:48,706 --> 01:05:48,726
Yeah.

1824
01:05:49,836 --> 01:05:50,506
Oh, what?

1825
01:05:50,506 --> 01:05:52,056
Wah, wah, wah, wow.

1826
01:05:53,276 --> 01:05:53,926
That's right.

1827
01:05:53,986 --> 01:05:55,216
You're so sexy, you know that?

1828
01:05:55,216 --> 01:05:55,606
Thank you.

1829
01:05:55,716 --> 01:05:57,296
My goodness, you are fine.

1830
01:05:57,686 --> 01:06:00,176
Uh, by the way, if you wanna
hang out with us, there's gonna

1831
01:06:00,176 --> 01:06:01,496
be plenty of opportunities.

1832
01:06:01,806 --> 01:06:06,246
Uh, we, we… Be sure and check out
our socials because we have different

1833
01:06:06,246 --> 01:06:07,326
events that are gonna be coming up.

1834
01:06:07,656 --> 01:06:10,996
The one that we've been talking
about lately, though, is Krazy

1835
01:06:10,996 --> 01:06:15,276
Winter Nights out there in Kansas
City, Missouri in February of 2027.

1836
01:06:15,556 --> 01:06:20,452
You can find all that information on
our events tab At our website, uh, but

1837
01:06:20,462 --> 01:06:27,512
you can also just go to krazykasbh.com
and, uh, buy tickets to go hang out

1838
01:06:27,512 --> 01:06:29,702
with us there for that weekend takeover.

1839
01:06:29,752 --> 01:06:31,832
And we'll be doing a live show out there.

1840
01:06:31,952 --> 01:06:38,412
And if you type in the discount code
Beyomono, B-E-Y-O-M-O-N-O, you can

1841
01:06:38,412 --> 01:06:41,712
get a discount on some tickets- There
you go … to come hang out with us.

1842
01:06:41,722 --> 01:06:42,992
So that's gonna be fun.

1843
01:06:43,562 --> 01:06:44,092
All righty, guys.

1844
01:06:44,092 --> 01:06:44,882
Hells yeah.

1845
01:06:45,102 --> 01:06:48,142
So with that, thanks a lot for
joining us as always, and we

1846
01:06:48,142 --> 01:06:49,582
will see you guys next week.

1847
01:06:49,682 --> 01:06:49,992
Bye.