The Hot Seat: Adam Answers Swinger Lifestyle & ENM Questions

0:07 All right, y'all. Before we dive in, a quick heads-up This show is raw, real, and definitely not rated PG We're talking about adult themes, sexual content, and the kinda stuff you probably don't want blasting through your speakers at work or around your kids So grab some headphones, pour your drink of choice, and get comfy Oh, and just so we're clear, we are not licensed therapists, counselors, or sex couches. Sex coaches. Sex coaches Not sex couches We're just a couple of people sharing our lives, experiences, and sexy adventures in ethical non-monogamy. So with that, pull up a chair and enjoy the show Hello, and welcome to another episode of Beyond Monogamy.

0:53 I'm Adam. And I'm Pris. And on today's quickie, we are talking about nothing. Oh. Because today Adam is on the hot seat, and I'm asking him all the questions I want. Yeah. And I'm sure he's gonna wanna dodge some of these. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I, I have no idea- That'll be fun I have no idea what she's gonna be asking me. It's, it's not in my knowledge. These are all fun. I did not do any, like, questions I already know the answers to. So you did questions- So these are fun … that you don't know the answer to? Yeah. Yeah? They're fun questions. Oh. I mean, I can't ask you certain things though, because it's like I already know. You can ask me whatever you want. No. You can hit me with your best shot. Are you ready? I'm ready. Okay. So this is all fun, guys. Like, we're just, we're just having a fun show.

1:35 Mr. Adam here. Yeah. If you were a dating app, what would your most honest review say? If I was a dating app, what would my aut- most honest review say? Yeah. Definitely underrated. Underrated. Underrated where? Not, not the, not the best interface, but awesome innards. That's really good. Yeah. That's a good one. Yeah. Yeah. I like that. I would write something like that. That would be your review. That would be my review. All right. What's your signature move at a lifestyle party? Is it your charm, your arc- awkward small talk, or finding the snacks?

2:15 Uh, you know, it was all three at, at different times. It was. Yeah, so when I first started out, it was definitely finding the snacks. Mm-hmm. Uh, which I am not… I still do that, kind of. I'm more of the s- you get the snacks for me now. Yeah. I, you know what? I, I gotta find the snacks a lot of time because it's, it's an easy way to make my exit from talking to people. Yeah. So I'm like, "Let me go to the kitchen. Let me go get a plate of food." You know what I mean? I don't have to talk to people if I have food in my mouth. This is true. Uh, so that was really my number one thing. I was always about the snacks. I really was scared to talk to people. Then I reached a phase where I could talk to people, but I felt like everything that I said was awkward. I would get very nervous, and I would go into comedian mode, and I would just say, like, lots of weird shit, and, uh- I think you still do that I do, but now- … it's just a part of my charm.

3:03 That's right. That's what we call it. Uh, that's what I call it. Fuck everybody else. What's your least sexy but most useful skill as a lifestyle husband? Least sexy but most useful skill? Least sexy but most useful skill. But most useful skill. I am very good at watching you have… I'm very good at that. Uh, and, and- You're very good at being the quiet husband sometimes. I, I'm very good at being the, uh, the fly on the wall. But you make it awkward. So, so that, that is the least sexy, most useful skill is actually my humor. Yes.

3:44 So every time that we have ever had fun with anybody, I, I will sometimes get a little nervous or if I notice that there's tension or anything like that, I, I make little jokes. I say little things and we start laughing. Like, it happens. But it kind of, it eases tension. It makes everybody feel more comfortable and- Like, I literally have to tell you to shut up I've been told that a few times, yeah. Yes. Yeah, I have been told that a few times. I mean, it's not the le- it's not… It, I think it's still sexy, but- It's definitely useful. It's very useful. I know that I've, I've made people feel comfortable enough to, to enjoy themselves. That's always nice. Now, this is mainly, like, a me and you thing. What is something you've done to try to look sexy that you hope I never noticed?

4:25 Something that I've done where I've tried to look sexy that I've hoped you've n- not noticed. Yeah. So sometimes, sometimes I will, um- I will quietly jack it a little bit. Yeah. You know? I will, I will, uh, you know, do some self-loving to, to get me, like, really peaking hard, and then I'll be like, "Oh, look at this. Check this out. I just woke up like this." I did not wake up like that. I've been- Really? You're such a cheater. Hey, man. I'm just… I, I wanna impress you. Yeah. But then I'm like, "Let me put a little bit of work in this," and, uh, 10 minutes later… But then, uh, but then we have sex and it's like- And it's like one minute three strokes. Three strokes in and I'm like, "Oh, damn it." That, that sign that do, do, do- … from SpongeBob, three seconds later.

5:11 Yeah. Yeah. And it's, it's… They, they definitely don't have that written in the manual. No. No. They don't. But yeah, guilty as charged. If someone made a documentary about us, what scene would you beg them to cut? It'll be a documentary about us. It would be a documentary about us. What scene would you beg them to cut? Someone's following us around. Pretty much every single time that we've finished playing- … my scramble to put on underwear. If we could just cut that out of the documentary, that would be lovely. That is such a scramble. Because I feel like… It is. It, it… I'm very, uh, insecure about my body.

5:52 Yeah. Uh, when- But no, even with me and you. Oh, yeah, even with me and you. Like- Like, I'm real quick to put on my, my underwear. Yeah. Uh, yeah, I don't know why. I just feel very uncomfortable being naked. If I don't have underwear on, I can be in my underwear and be all right. But if I don't have underwear on, I feel like shame on me, and not the good shame. Shame. Yeah. I feel dirty. And you scramble. I do. I do, because I get very bumbly, bumbly, you know? Yeah. Like, I don't… I'm like Chris Farley, you know, just kinda knocking down furniture trying to put on underwear. You… Yeah. And then something happens, because I have very big feet, so I have 16- Oh my goodness size 16 shoes. And then when I'm in a hurry to put on my underwear, all of a sudden my feet are getting caught in my underwear, and then I'm almost falling down.

6:35 Yeah. I almost grabbed a guy at the club the other day. I know. I had to apologize to him, because I thought there was a pole there that I was grabbing. It was his pole. And I was like, "Man, I'm so sorry." I'm like, "I'm just trying to put on my underwear." And then it was even more awkward because I was naked. Baby, you're so funny. Yeah. Cut those out- … of the documentary, thank you. Okay Yeah I think we can… People, stop recording. There you go. All right, let's see. If your flirting style were a weather forecast, what would it be? A weather forecast? Yeah. My flirting style, you know, this is, it's gonna sound funny, but pretty sunny. Yeah? Pretty sunny. I've noticed I smile a lot naturally.

7:17 Yeah. I smile a lot. I smile at people. Even if they're not smiling at me, I smile at them. And at the club, I smile at everybody, and I get smiles back, and it's, it's very nice. But I've noticed even at H-E-B, even going to the grocery store- Mm … I smile at everybody while I'm talking to you, and I'll see somebody and I'll lock eyes with them and I'll smile, and they smile back at me. And you can tell it's a flirty smile. You can tell. Mm-hmm. And that's kind of my thing. Like, non-verbal flirting. I would definitely refer to it as sunny 'cause it revolves around my smile- I like that … and my eyes. Oh my goodness. Calm down. My eyes. Calm down there.

7:57 I gotta bat my eyes. Okay. All right. Just saying. If our relationship came with a warning label, what would it say? If our relationship came with a warning label, what would it say? Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. It would say, "Don't raise your voice or you're gonna get stabbed by the lady." I like that. Yeah. I would do more where like, "Don't look at me." She stabs. Don't look at me. Her prison name is Stabby. Stabby McStabbins. You've always called me that. Yeah. Why? Or back when the kids were small, I used to call you Doc McStabbins. All right. Yeah. When you and I feel differently about a connection- Yeah … how do you think we should handle it?

8:37 That's a tough one because we feel differently about a connection often. Yes. It's very rare that we feel the same about certain people, and when we do, we tend to assimilate them into our circle very quickly. But there are people that I've been interested in that you have solidly not been interested in, and by far expressed interest in me not being interested in them because you're not interested in them. I think that I'm still a work in progress on that. Uh, you have become more susceptible to me just navigating on my own and, and, and if that's, if that's something that you wanna experience, go ahead. But I voiced my opinion. The problem is with that is your opinion means a lot to me.

9:19 Yeah. You're my priority, and how you feel about things are very important to me. I wouldn't want you pursuing something if I didn't feel good about the people. But you and I are also very different on how we feel about people. Yes. I like everybody. I do not. You don't like anybody. So that is very difficult to navigate, 'cause there are people that I would love to spend time with or I, I'd enjoy their probably pursuing that or whatever, but I know how you feel about it. And I know that I could… I'm just talking for instance. But I know that if I were to really tell you, like if I felt strongly about it and I were to really tell you, "Hey, I really wanna see about this," you would have this very open conversation- Yeah with me about it and we would talk about it.

10:02 Yeah. And you would most likely be like, "I'm not gonna stand in your way." Yeah. But- I'm sure you're not … here's how I feel about it. Mm-hmm. But I don't think internally that I could get past the fact that I don't have your approval. Yeah. I have your approval, but I don't have your approval. Yeah. I get it. Uh, so is that something that we could eventually get past? I don't know, honestly. It's not a deal breaker for- Yeah … for us, not for me, um, because I do, I do get to explore several opportunities. Mm-hmm. Just not the ones that you don't care for them. Yeah. You know? Yeah. So yeah, i- it's, it's always a work in progress, but is it, is it really progress? I feel okay where we're at. There you go. Yeah. I like that. Yeah. We are okay. Yeah.

10:43 I think so. Sure. What's a boundary of mine that took you time to understand? Oh, wow, that's a great question. That's a great question. A lot of the feelings that you've had throughout this whole journey, I haven't always been able to understand, and it's always taken a lot of communication between us to, to get there because you have to figure out how to verbalize it and I have to figure out how to understand it. Mm-hmm. There was probably the, the whole- where you didn't want me to s- to take women out, like, as a friends with benefits. You didn't want me to take them out on a date or anything like that. Mm-hmm.

11:23 Because you were afraid it would turn romantic. Yeah. And I just could not understand that for the life of me, and I, and I got what you were saying, but I couldn't understand it because I'm like, "I'm not… If I'm not seeking out romance, what would it matter?" Like, you knew that I wasn't seeking out romance, so if I'm not seeking out romance, romance, what would it matter? And then you'd be like, "Well, I don't know what their intentions are." And it's like, well, I don't… It doesn't matter what their intentions are. I know what my intentions are. Mm-hmm. And I'm not gonna let it go past a certain point. Yeah. And I think it took a lot from you to be able to sit back and go, "I trust he's not gonna let things go-" Yeah … "past a certain point." And it, but it took a while.

12:10 Mm-hmm. And it took a lot of open conversation and things like that, but that was really a tough one for me to tr- to really try and understand where you were coming from. Yeah. Because for me it's like, I trust you, and if I kn- I know for a fact, if I told you, "I don't want you doing this," or, "I don't want you doing that," you wouldn't. Like, you would- Yeah … overthink not doing it. Yeah. You know what I mean? But also, we're in different wants of this lifestyle, where I really enjoy it and I actually want to play. You could take it or leave it. I could take it or leave it. Yeah. Yeah. So I've never had to worry about you. I worry about you being monogamous. Get out of here with that shit. All right, we're gonna pause right there for a quick second for a quick word from our sponsor.

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14:14 Yeah. Only, it took me a long time to realize that. So I went into this like most guys who just got told that they could sleep with other women by their wife. Mm-hmm. I went in like a happy puppy in a pet store, and I was all over the place. You know? I, I thought, "Oh, I get to have sex with all of these women on this app." Yeah. You know? And I'm looking through this website, I'm like, "Oh, look at her, she's hot. We can have sex with her. Oh, look at her, she… We can have sex with her." And it was all very exciting. And then you, the more you start delving into it, the more you start getting kinda dismissed by people- Mm-hmm … that you're initially- Mm-hmm … thinking, "Oh, I got a shot with," and then all of a sudden you're just dismissed, and not in a very nice way.

14:58 And it causes, it would cause me to look inward at myself, and it's like, "Well, I'm fat. I'm, I'm, I'm not a good-looking person. I'm, I'm not their, their cup of tea." You know, those were the insecurities that I grew up with, and so I carried it on into this thinking, "Oh, well, nobody, nobody's gonna wanna sleep with me." Yeah. You know, they just want my wife. And I think a lot of guys struggle with that is, "I don't want… You know, nobody wants me. They just want my wife." I, I, I've seen good-looking dudes in this lifestyle say that exact phrase, and it's like, yeah, you're right.

15:40 Yeah. There are g- plenty of people want your wife, but guess what? You're so busy looking at that, that you're not seeing all the people that are actually flirting with you and are actually showing interest in you, because you're too busy averting your eyes this direction and saying, "Yeah, they only want her." It's you're cutting yourself off at the knees, and I realized that that's what I was doing to myself. I feel a lot of men do that. Yeah. I mean, 'cause I've heard you had conversations with men, and they're like, "Well, they, they only look at my wife. They're not, like, talking to me." I mean, think we did a show on that. Yeah, yeah. You know, it's, it's a sad thing, but you know, it's something that I can definitely understand because I have felt it early on. I've, I still kind of feel it on occasion.

16:23 But I want you to go out and enjoy yourself. Mm-hmm. And I know I can watch you walk over to the dance floor and you'll get s- surrounded by people, and I can sit off to the couch by myself and nobody's gonna come up to me. And I know, like, that's, that's a thing. Mm-hmm. And normally that would kill me, and I'd look inward and I'd go, "Well, nobody wants to talk to me because I'm gross and I'm ugly and blah, blah, blah." Now I'm just enjoying the solitude you know what I'm saying? So I don't know. I- it's, it's, it's just changed. Yeah, early on- It was a difficult little ride … early on I knew I liked it, uh, but you were not there. You would disconnect every time we would play with somebody.

17:04 Mm-hmm. And it would take a lot to bring you back. Like, you were not there. You weren't present. It was, it was kinda disheartening. So we weren't on the same level of enjoying experiences. It was almost like I was enjoying experiences and you were just there. And there were a couple times, or even one particularly, where you were just like, "I, I don't… Are we even doing… Like, if this is right for us. Like, I feel like we're wrong for doing this," and stuff like that. Didn't take you long to get over that, but that was definitely a time where I was like, "Is this even a thing?" I revisited that thought probably right around the time we started the podcast. Because when we started the podcast, we were still growing.

17:46 Mm-hmm. And we were just toying with the notion of entertaining friends with benefits, and I was trying to talk you into, "Hey, you know, I'm gonna have to meet with people solo," and that's never been our thing. And we've had lots of conversations about that. Yeah, yeah. I would tell you about how, you know, I couldn't enjoy my experiences in the lifestyle because I was so worried about is she gonna enjoy her experiences in the lifestyle. And it seemed like every experience you had was not a good experience. Yeah. And so because of that, you didn't wanna give other people a shot, because every experience you had previous to that sucked. You weren't open to new experiences, and that left you really just kind of lacking in that department.

18:31 Mm-hmm. Whereas I wanted to pursue all these different things, I didn't feel like I could. So I remember, uh, having that talk with you and going, "I… Should we even be doing this?" Like, I'm … I enjoy my experiences, but you don't really wanna do much and, and you don't wanna try and meet other people and, and, and explore that. And then you kinda sat back and you were like, "You know what? I think I am being kind of a stick in the mud, and I should give more chances out there," and you kind of explored more options. Mm-hmm. And a lot has changed since then. Mm-hmm. Yeah. But we were never on the same level, and I felt like, should … Is this even for us? Like… Yeah. You know? I, I knew it was for me.

19:11 Yeah. Like, me personally, I, I could be non-monogamous all the time, but I know you're the exact opposite. Yeah. You come from a very monogamous kind of state of mind and, and, and childhood. And, and it's hard to really go and do anything that's different from that. Yeah. So we've always been on different wavelengths. On different wavelengths. Yeah, yeah. So the … It's come up a couple times, but I don't feel that now. Yeah. What did you learn about yourself? I know what we learned about me. But what did you learn about yourself when we tried poly? I, I have always said that you were my number one priority. Yeah. I really learned just how much.

19:53 Mm. Mm-hmm. Like, I don't say words emptily. If I tell you I love you, I love you. Yes. If I tell you you are my number one priority, you're my number one priority- Mm-hmm … over all else. Yeah. But th- this was something that I really felt like I could identify with, and it made sense to me. And it, I don't know, it just felt right. And I was like, I had thought about it, too. I was like, you know, if she doesn't wanna be non-monogamous, what then? Like, I'm gonna have to- It's like a, it's like somebody who came out as bisexual having to go, "Oh, no, I'm straight now." Yeah.

20:34 You know what I mean? It, it seemed like it would've been a difficulty. And when you said, "I don't wanna be poly anymore," it wasn't even a question in my mind. Yeah. Because you are, you, you really are my number one priority, and I didn't think twice about it. I was like, "Okay, fine. Let's just work on us." And probably a couple days after we had that conversation, I remember I sat back and I said, "Wow, I really do love her. Like, I know I love her, but I really love her, that I'm willing to take this part of me and go, 'You know what? So what if I don't get to do it? It's okay.'" Yeah. " You're important to me." Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I, I learned that. Well, I likes you. I love you. You're so handsome. Now, what is your… Have, have you… Uh, no.

21:18 Have you ever been in a situation that made you feel, "Okay, we need to get out of here"? Like, let's go. Hmm. End the lifestyle. End the lifestyle. You know, I hate to say this, but I'm really bad at, at- Reading the room … reading that kind of room. Yeah. Yeah, I'm really bad at that. Yeah. Uh, I don't really pay attention to my environment. That's where you balance me. Yes. I know that you're watching, you're keeping track of everything. No matter where we go. Really. Yeah. Really. I s- it's… There's very few times where I have felt uncomfortable and been like, "We gotta get out of here," but that's now. Mm-hmm. I will tell you, I have grown a lot with how I handle situations.

22:03 We've had to be at events or get-togethers around people that we don't like. Yes. Or that there is drama with, and we don't wanna be around them. My reaction for so many years would have been to run away the moment that somebody is there who can make the environment more uncomfortable for us just by their presence. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. And then one day I said, "You know what? I am not going to ruin my good night because some asshole showed up who I don't want to, to be there." Oh, yeah. "I'm just gonna… I'm, I'm gonna let it be." Yeah. Uh, and from that point on, I learned it really doesn't matter who's around, I'm gonna enjoy myself.

22:47 Yeah. You know? Uh, but previous to that, yeah, those, those would've been the situations, and I think I've told you before, like somebody shows up- Mm-hmm … and I'm like, "Hey, so and so is here. You wanna go? Let's go." Yeah. And you're like, "Fuck that," you know? Yeah. That, but that probably would've been the only real times that I would've been like, "Hey, we should, we should probably go." Yeah. This is, this is weird. Yeah. Yeah. You're not really one for… Y- you can… You… We both can look past people we don't care for. Yeah. And just kind of be in our own little bubble. Yeah. It's what… I used to let people's presence kind of affect how I felt in the moment, and I really had to sit back and go, "Why?" Yeah.

23:27 " Why am I letting these people kind of hold that control over me?" Yeah. "Fuck that. I'm here to have a good time. I'm with my wife. I'm with friends or whatever. I don't give a fuck about them." Yeah. You know what I mean? And so, yeah, that, that's really changed a lot, and so that, that really doesn't happen. Now, there have been… There's certain people that I'm just like, "Ugh, I don't know if I wanna be here, though- Yeah … if they're here." Yes. Yes. You know? But again- We know how to get into our own little- Yeah. Really. Yeah. I mean, y- you know, I've learned to just focus on you and focus on the people that are around me and- Yeah and they just kinda enter the blurry background. Yeah. Yeah. Now, a lot of people follow this show- Yeah … but they also follow your Bald Truth. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You're, you're really big on your soc- My Tik- my TikTok … your Tickety Tok and your social- Yeah … media content and stuff.

24:12 Yeah. Do you feel like that has changed your concept of how you live in the lifestyle? Yes, that's a really good question. Yeah. That, you know, it's, it's one of those things where you, you can't just talk about it. You have to be about it. Be about it. Yeah. Yeah. And, and I think we… Because there have been times where stuff has come up and it's like, "Hey, we have to handle this the way we always talk about how we handle this." And talking about the different things that come up, having the podcast, but also The Bald Truth and, and people who message and they're like, "Hey, is this natural or is this…" And, you know- Mm-hmm … you have to really take, kind of take a stance on it. And the way I look at things is, is this is a very diverse and vast community of a lot of different personalities, a lot of different people and how they handle things.

25:01 The message is universal, but the delivery is not, right? So while I can tell people the message, some people might feel attacked or ashamed- Mm-hmm … by whatever the message is. So I really try to- You're very sweet … mold it- Yeah … to make everybody feel seen. Mm-hmm. Make everybody understand that, you know, this is probably a better way to handle this than this without experiencing the shame of- Yeah going, " I just got told." I mean, I feel like you, you feel like you have that conversation with me a lot. I feel bad. You know, for the longest time, I always felt bad because you are who you are. Yeah. You know what I mean? You were raised a certain way and, and, uh- You can be a very jealous person about people and, or, or you can judge.

25:48 Mm-hmm. You can be judgy sometimes. Mm-hmm. And I have reacted sometimes to your immediate judginess with backlash. I've been like, "How can you say that?" Yeah. Like, "You don't even know them." Like- Yeah … and I feel bad because that's me reacting, and it's not me taking into consideration that it's just an initial feeling. You know, you don't really know them. It's just how you felt- Yeah … in the moment. But I w- I used to get kind of disappointed 'cause I'd be like, "That's not the woman that I married," you know? Like- Yeah … "You're, you're supposed to be like me," you know? And that's, it, it took me a while. Far. Yeah. Yeah, it took me a while to realize, you know, we aren't on the same page on, on a lot of that stuff.

26:28 Yeah. And what's really cool though, and I think it's a beautiful thing, is that you like… You kind of admire the way that I am in accepting people, and you really have changed a lot of your viewpoints and how you handle things. Yeah, how I handle it. I have, yeah. I mean, uh, there, I mean, there's still the foundation that is purely you. It's still there. Tried your best to keep open minds on certain things and give people chances and things- Yeah … like that. Like, it's… A- and you've seen that it, it works- Mm-hmm, mm-hmm … at times. So yeah, I think that's, I think that's cool. That's what I think. But you know, I don't know. I, I, I like the, I like providing the content for people.

27:10 I like being able to help educate, but it also really does keep me on the straight and narrow. It keeps me- Yeah … you know, I can't go out to a club and ogle some woman. Yeah. You know what I mean? No. I have to be respectful. I can't go and just, uh, you know, go up to somebody and grab their ass. Sometimes that ass looks good and you wanna grab it, but I can't do that. No. I have to… I feel like in the position that I'm in and the content that I put out- We're being watched. People want to take down people who are forward-facing. So they're gonna look at everything that you do. Mm-hmm. And they're gonna listen to everything that you say, and the moment that you give them a crack in the wall, they're gonna push the water through, and they're gonna take screenshots, and they're gonna talk to their communities, and they're gonna be like, "I saw them at the club and they were doing this, but they clearly came out and said this."

28:05 Oh, man. You, you… One, we're all human. People make mistakes. People do things, and, and sometimes they don't fully think it through. Yeah. But at the same time, it, it really does keep me on the straight and narrow. Good. Yeah. Yeah, it really does. Well, I liked asking you all these questions. Yeah, this was a fun one. Yeah. This really was kinda cool. It was just different. I, it's- A little different point of view. I mean, we're always on point and about our, our shows and stuff like that, that, you know, sometimes you just wanna do something out of the norm. Yeah, you know, it was, uh, actually a lot of fun for me because I normally have to do a lot of thinking for these shows. Yeah. I didn't have to do any thinking for this show. There you go. You're welcome. So this was, this was nice.

28:46 It was nice to be asked the question and to be able to answer just forthcomingly. So I think that was a lot of fun. And you know, if this episode got you thinking, head over to beyond-monogamy.com. That's our website as always. That's where you're gonna find every episode, our blogs, our merch, the 100% anonymous confessional where you can send us anything on the lifestyle or ENM or kink or the show or my beautiful wife, so hot. You can also catch us on Full Swap Radio every Thursday at 2:00 and 7:00 PM Central. And if you're in the Austin area, you can come see us at Forbidden Fruit on November 15th. We're gonna be doing a Swinger 101 workshop. That's right. That's gonna be a whole lot of fun. Mm-hmm. And also we're gonna see you in Kansas City, Missouri, hopefully, uh, for Krazy Winter Nights.

29:28 That's the, uh, big swingers convention out there. And it's on February 19th through the 21st of 2027. If you wanna come hang out with us, we're gonna be doing live shows out there. You can go to the website krazykasbh.com. Uh, that's gonna be in our show notes. And hey, get tickets. Use our discount code, BEYOMONO. That's right. That's B-E-Y-O-M-O-N-O for a nice little discount. Yeah. And you can come out and hang out with us. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And with that, we thank you all for joining us for another episode. We hope you really enjoyed it, and we will see you guys next week. Bye.