The Hot Seat: Adam Answers Swinger Lifestyle & ENM Questions

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All right, y'all.

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Before we dive in, a quick heads-up

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This show is raw, real,
and definitely not rated PG

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We're talking about adult themes,
sexual content, and the kinda stuff you

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probably don't want blasting through
your speakers at work or around your kids

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So grab some headphones, pour your
drink of choice, and get comfy

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Oh, and just so we're clear,
we are not licensed therapists,

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counselors, or sex couches.

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Sex coaches.

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Sex coaches

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Not sex couches

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We're just a couple of people sharing
our lives, experiences, and sexy

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adventures in ethical non-monogamy.

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So with that, pull up a
chair and enjoy the show

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Hello, and welcome to another
episode of Beyond Monogamy.

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I'm Adam.

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And I'm Pris.

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And on today's quickie, we
are talking about nothing.

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Oh.

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Because today Adam is on the hot seat, and
I'm asking him all the questions I want.

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Yeah.

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And I'm sure he's gonna
wanna dodge some of these.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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I, I have no idea- That'll be fun

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I have no idea what
she's gonna be asking me.

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It's, it's not in my knowledge.

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These are all fun.

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I did not do any, like, questions
I already know the answers to.

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So you did

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questions- So these are fun … that
you don't know the answer to?

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Yeah.

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Yeah?

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They're fun questions.

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Oh.

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I mean, I can't ask you certain things
though, because it's like I already

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know.

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You can ask me whatever you want.

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No.

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You can hit me with your best shot.

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Are you ready?

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I'm ready.

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Okay.

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So this is all fun, guys.

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Like, we're just, we're
just having a fun show.

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Mr. Adam here.

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Yeah.

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If you were a dating app, what
would your most honest review say?

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If I was a dating app, what would
my aut- most honest review say?

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Yeah.

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Definitely underrated.

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Underrated.

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Underrated

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where?

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Not, not the, not the best
interface, but awesome innards.

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That's really good.

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Yeah.

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That's a good one.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I like that.

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I would write something like that.

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That would be your review.

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That would be my review.

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All

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right.

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What's your signature
move at a lifestyle party?

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Is it your charm, your arc- awkward
small talk, or finding the snacks?

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Uh, you know, it was all
three at, at different times.

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was.

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Yeah, so when I first started out,
it was definitely finding the snacks.

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Mm-hmm.

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Uh, which I am not… I
still do that, kind of.

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I'm more of the s- you
get the snacks for me now.

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Yeah.

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I, you know what?

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I, I gotta find the snacks a lot of
time because it's, it's an easy way to

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make my exit from talking to people.

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Yeah.

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So I'm like, "Let me go to the
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of food." You know what I mean?

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I don't have to talk to people
if I have food in my mouth.

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This is

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true.

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Uh, so that was really
my number one thing.

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I was always about the snacks.

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I really was scared to talk to people.

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Then I reached a phase where I could
talk to people, but I felt like

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everything that I said was awkward.

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I would get very nervous, and I would
go into comedian mode, and I would just

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say, like, lots of weird shit, and, uh-

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I think you still do that

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I do, but now- … it's
just a part of my charm.

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That's right.

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That's what we call it.

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Uh, that's what I call it.

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Fuck everybody else.

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What's your least sexy but most
useful skill as a lifestyle husband?

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Least sexy but most useful skill?

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Least sexy but most useful skill.

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But most useful skill.

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I am very good at watching you
have… I'm very good at that.

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Uh, and,

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and- You're very good at being
the quiet husband sometimes.

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I, I'm very good at being
the, uh, the fly on the wall.

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But you make it awkward.

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So, so that, that is the least sexy,
most useful skill is actually my humor.

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Yes.

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So every time that we have ever had
fun with anybody, I, I will sometimes

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get a little nervous or if I notice
that there's tension or anything

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like that, I, I make little jokes.

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I say little things and we start laughing.

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Like, it happens.

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But it kind of, it eases tension.

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It makes everybody feel more comfortable

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and- Like, I literally
have to tell you to shut up

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I've been told that a few times,

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yeah.

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Yes.

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Yeah, I have been told that a few times.

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I mean, it's not the le- it's
not… It, I think it's still sexy,

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but- It's definitely useful.

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It's very useful.

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I know that I've, I've made
people feel comfortable enough

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to, to enjoy themselves.

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That's always nice.

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Now, this is mainly,
like, a me and you thing.

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What is something you've done to try to
look sexy that you hope I never noticed?

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Something that I've done where
I've tried to look sexy that

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I've hoped you've n- not noticed.

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Yeah.

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So sometimes, sometimes I will, um-
I will quietly jack it a little bit.

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You know?

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I will, I will, uh, you know, do
some self-loving to, to get me,

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like, really peaking hard, and then
I'll be like, "Oh, look at this.

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Check this out.

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I just woke up like this."
I did not wake up like that.

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I've been- Really?

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You're

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such a cheater.

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Hey, man.

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I'm just… I, I wanna impress you.

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Yeah.

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But then I'm like, "Let me put a
little bit of work in this," and,

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uh, 10 minutes later… But then,
uh, but then we have sex and it's

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like- And it's like one minute

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three strokes.

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Three strokes in and
I'm like, "Oh, damn it."

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That, that sign that do, do, do- … from
SpongeBob, three seconds later.

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And it's, it's… They, they definitely
don't have that written in the manual.

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No.

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No.

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They don't.

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But yeah, guilty as charged.

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If someone made a documentary about us,
what scene would you beg them to cut?

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It'll be a documentary about us.

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It would

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be a documentary about us.

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What scene would you beg them to cut?

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Someone's following us around.

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Pretty much every single time that
we've finished playing- … my

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scramble to put on underwear.

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If we could just cut that out of the
documentary, that would be lovely.

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That

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is such a scramble.

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Because I feel like… It is.

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It, it… I'm very, uh,
insecure about my body.

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Yeah.

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Uh, when-

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But no, even with me and you.

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Oh, yeah, even with me and you.

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Like- Like, I'm real quick
to put on my, my underwear.

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Uh, yeah, I don't know why.

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I just feel very
uncomfortable being naked.

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If I don't have underwear on, I can
be in my underwear and be all right.

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But if I don't have underwear on, I feel
like shame on me, and not the good shame.

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Shame.

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Yeah.

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I feel dirty.

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And you

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scramble.

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I do.

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I do, because I get very
bumbly, bumbly, you know?

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Like, I don't… I'm like Chris Farley,
you know, just kinda knocking down

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furniture trying to put on underwear.

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You…

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Yeah.

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And then something happens,
because I have very big feet,

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so I have 16- Oh my goodness

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size 16 shoes.

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And then when I'm in a hurry to put on
my underwear, all of a sudden my feet

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are getting caught in my underwear,
and then I'm almost falling down.

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I almost grabbed a guy at
the club the other day.

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I know.

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I had to apologize to him,
because I thought there was a

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pole there that I was grabbing.

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It was his pole.

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And I was like, "Man, I'm so sorry."
I'm like, "I'm just trying to put on

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my underwear." And then it was even
more awkward because I was naked.

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Baby, you're so funny.

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Yeah.

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Cut those out- … of the
documentary, thank you.

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Okay

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Yeah

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I think we can… People, stop recording.

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There you

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go.

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All right, let's see.

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If your flirting style were a
weather forecast, what would it be?

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A weather forecast?

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Yeah.

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My flirting style, you know, this is,
it's gonna sound funny, but pretty sunny.

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Yeah?

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Pretty sunny.

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I've noticed I smile a lot naturally.

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Yeah.

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I smile a lot.

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I smile at people.

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Even if they're not smiling
at me, I smile at them.

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And at the club, I smile at
everybody, and I get smiles

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back, and it's, it's very nice.

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But I've noticed even at H-E-B, even
going to the grocery store- Mm … I

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smile at everybody while I'm talking
to you, and I'll see somebody and

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I'll lock eyes with them and I'll
smile, and they smile back at me.

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And you can tell it's a flirty smile.

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You can tell.

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Mm-hmm.

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And that's kind of my thing.

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Like, non-verbal flirting.

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I would definitely refer to it as
sunny 'cause it revolves around my

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smile- I like that … and my eyes.

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Oh my goodness.

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Calm down.

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My eyes.

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Calm down there.

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I gotta bat my eyes.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Just saying.

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If our relationship came with a
warning label, what would it say?

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If our relationship came with a
warning label, what would it say?

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Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

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It would say, "Don't raise your voice or
you're gonna get stabbed by the lady."

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I like that.

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Yeah.

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I would do more where like,
"Don't look at me." She stabs.

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Don't look at me.

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Her prison name is Stabby.

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Stabby McStabbins.

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You've always called me that.

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Yeah.

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Why?

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Or back when the kids were small,
I used to call you Doc McStabbins.

261
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All right.

262
00:08:31,347 --> 00:08:31,636
Yeah.

263
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When you and I feel
differently about a connection-

264
00:08:35,409 --> 00:08:35,703
Yeah

265
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…
how do you think we should handle it?

266
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That's a tough one because we feel
differently about a connection often.

267
00:08:42,212 --> 00:08:42,488
Yes.

268
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It's very rare that we feel the
same about certain people, and

269
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when we do, we tend to assimilate
them into our circle very quickly.

270
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But there are people that I've
been interested in that you have

271
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solidly not been interested in, and
by far expressed interest in me not

272
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being interested in them because
you're not interested in them.

273
00:09:01,328 --> 00:09:03,824
I think that I'm still a
work in progress on that.

274
00:09:03,934 --> 00:09:08,867
Uh, you have become more susceptible
to me just navigating on my own and,

275
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and, and if that's, if that's something
that you wanna experience, go ahead.

276
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But I voiced my opinion.

277
00:09:14,649 --> 00:09:18,751
The problem is with that is
your opinion means a lot to me.

278
00:09:19,022 --> 00:09:19,414
Yeah.

279
00:09:19,457 --> 00:09:24,744
You're my priority, and how you feel
about things are very important to me.

280
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I wouldn't want you pursuing something
if I didn't feel good about the people.

281
00:09:29,037 --> 00:09:32,423
But you and I are also very different
on how we feel about people.

282
00:09:32,979 --> 00:09:33,264
Yes.

283
00:09:33,286 --> 00:09:34,110
I like everybody.

284
00:09:34,371 --> 00:09:34,766
I do not.

285
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You don't like anybody.

286
00:09:36,073 --> 00:09:40,611
So that is very difficult to navigate,
'cause there are people that I would

287
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love to spend time with or I, I'd enjoy
their probably pursuing that or whatever,

288
00:09:45,779 --> 00:09:47,610
but I know how you feel about it.

289
00:09:47,639 --> 00:09:50,772
And I know that I could…
I'm just talking for instance.

290
00:09:51,697 --> 00:09:55,644
But I know that if I were to really tell
you, like if I felt strongly about it

291
00:09:55,644 --> 00:09:59,480
and I were to really tell you, "Hey, I
really wanna see about this," you would

292
00:09:59,490 --> 00:10:01,432
have this very open conversation- Yeah

293
00:10:01,432 --> 00:10:02,874
with me about it and
we would talk about it.

294
00:10:02,874 --> 00:10:03,228
Yeah.

295
00:10:03,228 --> 00:10:05,274
And you would most likely be like,
"I'm not gonna stand in your way."

296
00:10:05,524 --> 00:10:05,771
Yeah.

297
00:10:05,868 --> 00:10:07,626
But- I'm sure you're
not … here's how I feel about it.

298
00:10:07,626 --> 00:10:07,842
Mm-hmm.

299
00:10:07,956 --> 00:10:11,334
But I don't think internally
that I could get past the fact

300
00:10:11,338 --> 00:10:13,177
that I don't have your approval.

301
00:10:13,365 --> 00:10:13,699
Yeah.

302
00:10:13,877 --> 00:10:15,599
I have your approval, but
I don't have your approval.

303
00:10:15,607 --> 00:10:15,978
Yeah.

304
00:10:16,173 --> 00:10:16,483
I get it.

305
00:10:16,510 --> 00:10:19,913
Uh, so is that something that
we could eventually get past?

306
00:10:19,946 --> 00:10:21,606
I don't know, honestly.

307
00:10:21,899 --> 00:10:27,703
It's not a deal breaker for- Yeah … for
us, not for me, um, because I do, I do

308
00:10:27,705 --> 00:10:30,103
get to explore several opportunities.

309
00:10:30,114 --> 00:10:30,245
Mm-hmm.

310
00:10:30,245 --> 00:10:32,188
Just not the ones that
you don't care for them.

311
00:10:32,223 --> 00:10:32,547
Yeah.

312
00:10:32,611 --> 00:10:33,059
You know?

313
00:10:33,145 --> 00:10:33,416
Yeah.

314
00:10:33,616 --> 00:10:36,583
So yeah, i- it's, it's always
a work in progress, but is

315
00:10:36,583 --> 00:10:37,685
it, is it really progress?

316
00:10:37,686 --> 00:10:39,235
I feel okay where we're at.

317
00:10:39,353 --> 00:10:39,917
There you go.

318
00:10:39,921 --> 00:10:40,215
Yeah.

319
00:10:40,297 --> 00:10:40,987
I like that.

320
00:10:41,065 --> 00:10:41,279
Yeah.

321
00:10:41,776 --> 00:10:42,498
We are okay.

322
00:10:42,736 --> 00:10:43,173
Yeah.

323
00:10:43,471 --> 00:10:44,018
I think so.

324
00:10:44,097 --> 00:10:44,447
Sure.

325
00:10:44,649 --> 00:10:48,880
What's a boundary of mine that
took you time to understand?

326
00:10:48,929 --> 00:10:50,795
Oh, wow, that's a great question.

327
00:10:51,788 --> 00:10:52,866
That's a great question.

328
00:10:54,085 --> 00:10:58,893
A lot of the feelings that you've had
throughout this whole journey, I haven't

329
00:10:58,910 --> 00:11:02,904
always been able to understand, and
it's always taken a lot of communication

330
00:11:02,904 --> 00:11:06,877
between us to, to get there because you
have to figure out how to verbalize it and

331
00:11:06,877 --> 00:11:08,499
I have to figure out how to understand it.

332
00:11:08,499 --> 00:11:08,555
Mm-hmm.

333
00:11:08,581 --> 00:11:17,963
There was probably the, the whole- where
you didn't want me to s- to take women

334
00:11:17,995 --> 00:11:20,748
out, like, as a friends with benefits.

335
00:11:20,750 --> 00:11:23,111
You didn't want me to take them out
on a date or anything like that.

336
00:11:23,118 --> 00:11:23,275
Mm-hmm.

337
00:11:23,573 --> 00:11:27,421
Because you were afraid
it would turn romantic.

338
00:11:27,648 --> 00:11:27,898
Yeah.

339
00:11:28,808 --> 00:11:33,926
And I just could not understand that for
the life of me, and I, and I got what you

340
00:11:33,927 --> 00:11:37,298
were saying, but I couldn't understand
it because I'm like, "I'm not…

341
00:11:38,250 --> 00:11:42,418
If I'm not seeking out romance, what
would it matter?" Like, you knew

342
00:11:42,420 --> 00:11:45,163
that I wasn't seeking out romance,
so if I'm not seeking out romance,

343
00:11:45,234 --> 00:11:46,363
romance, what would it matter?

344
00:11:46,363 --> 00:11:50,002
And then you'd be like, "Well, I don't
know what their intentions are." And

345
00:11:50,003 --> 00:11:53,715
it's like, well, I don't… It doesn't
matter what their intentions are.

346
00:11:54,121 --> 00:11:55,672
I know what my intentions are.

347
00:11:55,672 --> 00:11:55,945
Mm-hmm.

348
00:11:55,945 --> 00:11:58,477
And I'm not gonna let it
go past a certain point.

349
00:11:58,504 --> 00:11:58,867
Yeah.

350
00:11:58,919 --> 00:12:04,439
And I think it took a lot from you
to be able to sit back and go, "I

351
00:12:04,439 --> 00:12:07,569
trust he's not gonna let things
go-" Yeah … "past a certain

352
00:12:07,577 --> 00:12:09,838
point." And it, but it took a while.

353
00:12:10,126 --> 00:12:10,413
Mm-hmm.

354
00:12:10,632 --> 00:12:14,674
And it took a lot of open conversation
and things like that, but that was really

355
00:12:14,674 --> 00:12:19,489
a tough one for me to tr- to really try
and understand where you were coming from.

356
00:12:19,491 --> 00:12:19,521
Yeah.

357
00:12:19,521 --> 00:12:24,205
Because for me it's like, I trust you,
and if I kn- I know for a fact, if I told

358
00:12:24,207 --> 00:12:27,620
you, "I don't want you doing this," or, "I
don't want you doing that," you wouldn't.

359
00:12:27,981 --> 00:12:31,175
Like, you would-
Yeah … overthink not doing it.

360
00:12:31,175 --> 00:12:31,185
Yeah.

361
00:12:31,203 --> 00:12:31,938
You know what I mean?

362
00:12:32,281 --> 00:12:35,925
But also, we're in different wants
of this lifestyle, where I really

363
00:12:35,926 --> 00:12:38,359
enjoy it and I actually want to play.

364
00:12:38,793 --> 00:12:39,733
You could take it or leave it.

365
00:12:39,755 --> 00:12:40,491
I could take it or leave it.

366
00:12:40,491 --> 00:12:40,764
Yeah.

367
00:12:41,008 --> 00:12:41,260
Yeah.

368
00:12:41,286 --> 00:12:42,900
So I've never had to worry about you.

369
00:12:43,046 --> 00:12:44,474
I worry about you being monogamous.

370
00:12:44,703 --> 00:12:45,656
Get out of here with that shit.

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410
00:13:52,558 --> 00:13:52,925
Yeah

411
00:13:53,265 --> 00:13:57,227
If you could talk to the Adam
who was just starting this

412
00:13:57,227 --> 00:13:58,764
journey, what would you tell him?

413
00:13:58,816 --> 00:13:59,141
Oof.

414
00:13:59,221 --> 00:14:00,474
Hang in there, it gets better.

415
00:14:01,179 --> 00:14:02,073
It was-

416
00:14:02,098 --> 00:14:04,247
She's not as crazy as she looks.

417
00:14:04,298 --> 00:14:05,171
It wasn't even you.

418
00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:05,895
Good.

419
00:14:05,925 --> 00:14:11,376
Uh, it wa- Good … you weren't the battle
that I was fighting in the lifestyle.

420
00:14:11,430 --> 00:14:11,456
Mm-hmm.

421
00:14:11,456 --> 00:14:14,041
I was the battle that I was
fighting in the lifestyle.

422
00:14:14,041 --> 00:14:14,063
Yeah.

423
00:14:14,069 --> 00:14:16,060
Only, it took me a long
time to realize that.

424
00:14:16,534 --> 00:14:22,814
So I went into this like most guys
who just got told that they could

425
00:14:22,814 --> 00:14:24,330
sleep with other women by their wife.

426
00:14:24,872 --> 00:14:24,897
Mm-hmm.

427
00:14:24,897 --> 00:14:29,951
I went in like a happy puppy in a pet
store, and I was all over the place.

428
00:14:30,047 --> 00:14:30,507
You know?

429
00:14:30,552 --> 00:14:35,373
I, I thought, "Oh, I get to have sex
with all of these women on this app."

430
00:14:35,385 --> 00:14:35,719
Yeah.

431
00:14:35,759 --> 00:14:36,140
You know?

432
00:14:36,140 --> 00:14:38,496
And I'm looking through this website,
I'm like, "Oh, look at her, she's hot.

433
00:14:38,532 --> 00:14:41,813
We can have sex with her. Oh, look at
her, she… We can have sex with her."

434
00:14:42,913 --> 00:14:44,808
And it was all very exciting.

435
00:14:44,862 --> 00:14:49,145
And then you, the more you start
delving into it, the more you start

436
00:14:49,157 --> 00:14:53,287
getting kinda dismissed by people-
Mm-hmm … that you're initially- Mm-hmm

437
00:14:53,287 --> 00:14:55,631
… thinking, "Oh, I got a shot with,"
and then all of a sudden you're just

438
00:14:55,633 --> 00:14:58,312
dismissed, and not in a very nice way.

439
00:14:58,767 --> 00:15:03,248
And it causes, it would cause
me to look inward at myself,

440
00:15:03,639 --> 00:15:05,950
and it's like, "Well, I'm fat.

441
00:15:06,739 --> 00:15:09,451
I'm, I'm, I'm not a good-looking person.

442
00:15:09,510 --> 00:15:14,832
I'm, I'm not their, their cup of tea."
You know, those were the insecurities

443
00:15:14,833 --> 00:15:21,075
that I grew up with, and so I carried it
on into this thinking, "Oh, well, nobody,

444
00:15:21,130 --> 00:15:22,451
nobody's gonna wanna sleep with me."

445
00:15:22,639 --> 00:15:23,032
Yeah.

446
00:15:23,056 --> 00:15:24,302
You know, they just want my wife.

447
00:15:24,403 --> 00:15:28,144
And I think a lot of guys struggle
with that is, "I don't want…

448
00:15:28,235 --> 00:15:29,539
You know, nobody wants me.

449
00:15:30,060 --> 00:15:34,514
They just want my wife." I, I, I've
seen good-looking dudes in this

450
00:15:34,514 --> 00:15:40,241
lifestyle say that exact phrase,
and it's like, yeah, you're right.

451
00:15:40,533 --> 00:15:40,777
Yeah.

452
00:15:40,779 --> 00:15:43,755
There are g- plenty of people
want your wife, but guess what?

453
00:15:44,054 --> 00:15:48,372
You're so busy looking at that, that
you're not seeing all the people

454
00:15:48,386 --> 00:15:52,123
that are actually flirting with you
and are actually showing interest

455
00:15:52,124 --> 00:15:56,106
in you, because you're too busy
averting your eyes this direction and

456
00:15:56,106 --> 00:15:57,838
saying, "Yeah, they only want her."

457
00:15:58,665 --> 00:16:01,702
It's you're cutting yourself off
at the knees, and I realized that

458
00:16:01,703 --> 00:16:02,708
that's what I was doing to myself.

459
00:16:02,708 --> 00:16:02,718
I

460
00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,145
feel a lot of men do that.

461
00:16:04,216 --> 00:16:04,345
Yeah.

462
00:16:04,345 --> 00:16:07,767
I mean, 'cause I've heard you had
conversations with men, and they're

463
00:16:07,767 --> 00:16:11,038
like, "Well, they, they only look at my
wife. They're not, like, talking to me."

464
00:16:11,038 --> 00:16:12,255
I mean, think we did a show on that.

465
00:16:12,292 --> 00:16:13,078
Yeah, yeah.

466
00:16:13,114 --> 00:16:15,921
You know, it's, it's a sad thing,
but you know, it's something

467
00:16:15,921 --> 00:16:19,405
that I can definitely understand
because I have felt it early on.

468
00:16:19,425 --> 00:16:22,299
I've, I still kind of feel it on occasion.

469
00:16:23,338 --> 00:16:26,472
But I want you to go
out and enjoy yourself.

470
00:16:26,482 --> 00:16:26,507
Mm-hmm.

471
00:16:26,511 --> 00:16:29,789
And I know I can watch you walk
over to the dance floor and you'll

472
00:16:29,789 --> 00:16:32,998
get s- surrounded by people, and I
can sit off to the couch by myself

473
00:16:33,026 --> 00:16:34,196
and nobody's gonna come up to me.

474
00:16:34,478 --> 00:16:36,800
And I know, like, that's, that's a thing.

475
00:16:36,925 --> 00:16:37,271
Mm-hmm.

476
00:16:37,675 --> 00:16:40,802
And normally that would kill me, and
I'd look inward and I'd go, "Well,

477
00:16:40,804 --> 00:16:43,311
nobody wants to talk to me because
I'm gross and I'm ugly and blah,

478
00:16:43,312 --> 00:16:46,798
blah, blah." Now I'm just enjoying
the solitude you know what I'm saying?

479
00:16:47,161 --> 00:16:47,748
So I don't know.

480
00:16:47,749 --> 00:16:49,758
I- it's, it's, it's just changed.

481
00:16:50,423 --> 00:16:51,663
Yeah, early on-

482
00:16:52,387 --> 00:16:53,758
It was a difficult little ride

483
00:16:54,099 --> 00:17:00,290
…
early on I knew I liked it,
uh, but you were not there.

484
00:17:00,847 --> 00:17:04,609
You would disconnect every time
we would play with somebody.

485
00:17:04,666 --> 00:17:04,676
Mm-hmm.

486
00:17:04,676 --> 00:17:06,889
And it would take a lot to bring you back.

487
00:17:06,979 --> 00:17:09,179
Like, you were not there.

488
00:17:09,182 --> 00:17:10,170
You weren't present.

489
00:17:10,366 --> 00:17:12,162
It was, it was kinda disheartening.

490
00:17:12,193 --> 00:17:16,402
So we weren't on the same
level of enjoying experiences.

491
00:17:16,683 --> 00:17:19,570
It was almost like I was enjoying
experiences and you were just there.

492
00:17:19,593 --> 00:17:23,611
And there were a couple times, or
even one particularly, where you were

493
00:17:23,612 --> 00:17:27,494
just like, "I, I don't… Are we even
doing… Like, if this is right for

494
00:17:27,495 --> 00:17:30,351
us. Like, I feel like we're wrong
for doing this," and stuff like that.

495
00:17:30,618 --> 00:17:33,744
Didn't take you long to get over that,
but that was definitely a time where

496
00:17:33,745 --> 00:17:35,493
I was like, "Is this even a thing?"

497
00:17:35,781 --> 00:17:41,968
I revisited that thought probably right
around the time we started the podcast.

498
00:17:42,485 --> 00:17:46,662
Because when we started the
podcast, we were still growing.

499
00:17:46,933 --> 00:17:47,242
Mm-hmm.

500
00:17:47,285 --> 00:17:53,096
And we were just toying with the notion
of entertaining friends with benefits, and

501
00:17:53,097 --> 00:17:57,789
I was trying to talk you into, "Hey, you
know, I'm gonna have to meet with people

502
00:17:57,789 --> 00:17:59,847
solo," and that's never been our thing.

503
00:17:59,847 --> 00:18:01,908
And we've had lots of
conversations about that.

504
00:18:01,911 --> 00:18:02,190
Yeah, yeah.

505
00:18:03,758 --> 00:18:08,841
I would tell you about how, you
know, I couldn't enjoy my experiences

506
00:18:08,842 --> 00:18:12,091
in the lifestyle because I was so
worried about is she gonna enjoy

507
00:18:12,102 --> 00:18:13,733
her experiences in the lifestyle.

508
00:18:13,805 --> 00:18:17,699
And it seemed like every experience
you had was not a good experience.

509
00:18:17,759 --> 00:18:17,976
Yeah.

510
00:18:17,978 --> 00:18:20,166
And so because of that, you
didn't wanna give other people

511
00:18:20,166 --> 00:18:23,193
a shot, because every experience
you had previous to that sucked.

512
00:18:23,691 --> 00:18:28,707
You weren't open to new experiences,
and that left you really just kind

513
00:18:28,708 --> 00:18:31,079
of lacking in that department.

514
00:18:31,126 --> 00:18:31,196
Mm-hmm.

515
00:18:31,196 --> 00:18:33,701
Whereas I wanted to pursue
all these different things,

516
00:18:33,701 --> 00:18:34,679
I didn't feel like I could.

517
00:18:35,340 --> 00:18:39,412
So I remember, uh, having that talk with
you and going, "I… Should we even be

518
00:18:39,413 --> 00:18:43,635
doing this?" Like, I'm … I enjoy my
experiences, but you don't really wanna do

519
00:18:43,639 --> 00:18:49,661
much and, and you don't wanna try and meet
other people and, and, and explore that.

520
00:18:49,662 --> 00:18:52,054
And then you kinda sat back and you
were like, "You know what? I think I am

521
00:18:52,059 --> 00:18:56,099
being kind of a stick in the mud, and
I should give more chances out there,"

522
00:18:56,099 --> 00:18:57,641
and you kind of explored more options.

523
00:18:57,659 --> 00:18:57,770
Mm-hmm.

524
00:18:58,035 --> 00:18:59,600
And a lot has changed since then.

525
00:18:59,712 --> 00:19:00,140
Mm-hmm.

526
00:19:00,146 --> 00:19:00,365
Yeah.

527
00:19:00,365 --> 00:19:00,375
But

528
00:19:00,695 --> 00:19:07,127
we were never on the same level, and I
felt like, should … Is this even for us?

529
00:19:07,365 --> 00:19:07,620
Like…

530
00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:08,353
Yeah.

531
00:19:08,957 --> 00:19:09,315
You know?

532
00:19:09,348 --> 00:19:10,950
I, I knew it was for me.

533
00:19:11,333 --> 00:19:11,461
Yeah.

534
00:19:11,461 --> 00:19:14,423
Like, me personally, I, I could be
non-monogamous all the time, but

535
00:19:14,433 --> 00:19:16,341
I know you're the exact opposite.

536
00:19:16,539 --> 00:19:16,721
Yeah.

537
00:19:16,736 --> 00:19:22,404
You come from a very monogamous kind of
state of mind and, and, and childhood.

538
00:19:23,118 --> 00:19:28,641
And, and it's hard to really go and do
anything that's different from that.

539
00:19:28,700 --> 00:19:29,029
Yeah.

540
00:19:29,143 --> 00:19:31,027
So we've always been on
different wavelengths.

541
00:19:31,027 --> 00:19:31,217
On

542
00:19:31,217 --> 00:19:31,419
different wavelengths.

543
00:19:31,423 --> 00:19:32,220
Yeah, yeah.

544
00:19:32,221 --> 00:19:35,225
So the … It's come up a couple
times, but I don't feel that now.

545
00:19:35,271 --> 00:19:35,574
Yeah.

546
00:19:36,308 --> 00:19:40,129
What did you learn about yourself?

547
00:19:40,721 --> 00:19:41,886
I know what we learned about me.

548
00:19:41,981 --> 00:19:44,877
But what did you learn about
yourself when we tried poly?

549
00:19:45,244 --> 00:19:50,153
I, I have always said that you
were my number one priority.

550
00:19:50,176 --> 00:19:50,189
Yeah.

551
00:19:50,215 --> 00:19:53,604
I really learned just how much.

552
00:19:53,704 --> 00:19:54,562
Mm. Mm-hmm.

553
00:19:55,128 --> 00:19:58,781
Like, I don't say words emptily.

554
00:19:58,912 --> 00:20:00,881
If I tell you I love you, I love you.

555
00:20:01,132 --> 00:20:01,445
Yes.

556
00:20:01,522 --> 00:20:05,269
If I tell you you are my number
one priority, you're my number one

557
00:20:05,271 --> 00:20:07,187
priority- Mm-hmm … over all else.

558
00:20:07,223 --> 00:20:07,466
Yeah.

559
00:20:08,878 --> 00:20:14,671
But th- this was something that I
really felt like I could identify

560
00:20:14,674 --> 00:20:16,718
with, and it made sense to me.

561
00:20:16,746 --> 00:20:19,391
And it, I don't know, it just felt right.

562
00:20:19,986 --> 00:20:22,740
And I was like, I had
thought about it, too.

563
00:20:22,742 --> 00:20:26,942
I was like, you know, if she doesn't
wanna be non-monogamous, what then?

564
00:20:27,073 --> 00:20:31,190
Like, I'm gonna have to- It's
like a, it's like somebody who

565
00:20:31,508 --> 00:20:34,680
came out as bisexual having to go,
"Oh, no, I'm straight now." Yeah.

566
00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:35,107
You know what I mean?

567
00:20:35,164 --> 00:20:38,409
It, it seemed like it
would've been a difficulty.

568
00:20:38,443 --> 00:20:41,676
And when you said, "I don't
wanna be poly anymore," it wasn't

569
00:20:41,676 --> 00:20:42,804
even a question in my mind.

570
00:20:42,940 --> 00:20:43,131
Yeah.

571
00:20:43,185 --> 00:20:46,685
Because you are, you, you really
are my number one priority, and

572
00:20:46,687 --> 00:20:47,906
I didn't think twice about it.

573
00:20:47,945 --> 00:20:49,025
I was like, "Okay, fine.

574
00:20:49,319 --> 00:20:53,707
Let's just work on us." And probably
a couple days after we had that

575
00:20:53,709 --> 00:20:59,054
conversation, I remember I sat back
and I said, "Wow, I really do love her.

576
00:20:59,068 --> 00:21:03,833
Like, I know I love her, but I really
love her, that I'm willing to take

577
00:21:03,839 --> 00:21:05,782
this part of me and go, 'You know what?

578
00:21:06,504 --> 00:21:07,813
So what if I don't get to do it?

579
00:21:08,293 --> 00:21:08,752
It's okay.'"

580
00:21:08,939 --> 00:21:09,254
Yeah.

581
00:21:09,321 --> 00:21:10,355
"
You're important to me."

582
00:21:10,358 --> 00:21:10,621
Yeah.

583
00:21:10,749 --> 00:21:11,015
Yeah.

584
00:21:11,213 --> 00:21:11,416
Yeah.

585
00:21:11,416 --> 00:21:12,148
So I, I learned that.

586
00:21:12,275 --> 00:21:13,393
Well, I likes you.

587
00:21:13,445 --> 00:21:13,527
I

588
00:21:13,528 --> 00:21:13,538
love

589
00:21:13,538 --> 00:21:13,630
you.

590
00:21:13,630 --> 00:21:14,455
You're so handsome.

591
00:21:14,588 --> 00:21:18,174
Now, what is your…
Have, have you… Uh, no.

592
00:21:18,425 --> 00:21:22,644
Have you ever been in a situation
that made you feel, "Okay,

593
00:21:22,646 --> 00:21:23,667
we need to get out of here"?

594
00:21:24,804 --> 00:21:25,820
Like, let's go.

595
00:21:26,208 --> 00:21:26,733
Hmm.

596
00:21:26,796 --> 00:21:27,564
End the lifestyle.

597
00:21:27,577 --> 00:21:28,741
End the lifestyle.

598
00:21:28,771 --> 00:21:34,535
You know, I hate to say this, but
I'm really bad at, at- Reading the

599
00:21:34,535 --> 00:21:35,529
room … reading that kind of room.

600
00:21:35,536 --> 00:21:35,958
Yeah.

601
00:21:35,958 --> 00:21:36,955
Yeah, I'm really bad at that.

602
00:21:36,958 --> 00:21:37,199
Yeah.

603
00:21:37,496 --> 00:21:40,115
Uh, I don't really pay
attention to my environment.

604
00:21:40,803 --> 00:21:42,061
That's where you balance me.

605
00:21:42,061 --> 00:21:42,527
Yes.

606
00:21:42,599 --> 00:21:45,643
I know that you're watching,
you're keeping track of everything.

607
00:21:46,083 --> 00:21:47,632
No matter where we go.

608
00:21:48,121 --> 00:21:48,811
Really.

609
00:21:48,950 --> 00:21:49,460
Yeah.

610
00:21:49,511 --> 00:21:50,008
Really.

611
00:21:50,050 --> 00:21:55,103
I s- it's… There's very few times
where I have felt uncomfortable

612
00:21:55,124 --> 00:21:57,961
and been like, "We gotta get
out of here," but that's now.

613
00:21:57,966 --> 00:21:58,351
Mm-hmm.

614
00:21:58,351 --> 00:22:02,977
I will tell you, I have grown a
lot with how I handle situations.

615
00:22:03,872 --> 00:22:10,943
We've had to be at events or get-togethers
around people that we don't like.

616
00:22:11,336 --> 00:22:11,508
Yes.

617
00:22:11,538 --> 00:22:15,602
Or that there is drama with, and
we don't wanna be around them.

618
00:22:16,446 --> 00:22:21,560
My reaction for so many years would
have been to run away the moment

619
00:22:21,564 --> 00:22:27,470
that somebody is there who can make
the environment more uncomfortable

620
00:22:27,477 --> 00:22:28,852
for us just by their presence.

621
00:22:28,886 --> 00:22:28,896
Yeah.

622
00:22:28,896 --> 00:22:29,498
You know what I mean?

623
00:22:29,576 --> 00:22:29,831
Yeah.

624
00:22:29,988 --> 00:22:35,922
And then one day I said, "You know what?
I am not going to ruin my good night

625
00:22:35,949 --> 00:22:40,138
because some asshole showed up who I
don't want to, to be there." Oh, yeah.

626
00:22:40,138 --> 00:22:41,289
"I'm just gonna… I'm,
I'm gonna let it be."

627
00:22:41,388 --> 00:22:41,688
Yeah.

628
00:22:41,759 --> 00:22:46,056
Uh, and from that point on, I learned
it really doesn't matter who's

629
00:22:46,056 --> 00:22:47,320
around, I'm gonna enjoy myself.

630
00:22:47,416 --> 00:22:47,811
Yeah.

631
00:22:47,811 --> 00:22:47,831
You know?

632
00:22:47,870 --> 00:22:51,075
Uh, but previous to that, yeah,
those, those would've been the

633
00:22:51,075 --> 00:22:53,683
situations, and I think I've told
you before, like somebody shows up-

634
00:22:53,698 --> 00:22:56,381
Mm-hmm … and I'm like, "Hey, so and
so is here. You wanna go? Let's go."

635
00:22:56,461 --> 00:22:56,800
Yeah.

636
00:22:56,886 --> 00:22:58,512
And you're like, "Fuck that," you know?

637
00:22:58,518 --> 00:22:58,528
Yeah.

638
00:22:58,862 --> 00:23:02,713
That, but that probably would've been the
only real times that I would've been like,

639
00:23:02,713 --> 00:23:04,690
"Hey, we should, we should probably go."

640
00:23:04,801 --> 00:23:05,113
Yeah.

641
00:23:05,187 --> 00:23:06,243
This is, this is weird.

642
00:23:06,849 --> 00:23:07,238
Yeah.

643
00:23:07,238 --> 00:23:07,248
Yeah.

644
00:23:07,248 --> 00:23:12,648
You're not really one for… Y-
you can… You… We both can look

645
00:23:12,657 --> 00:23:14,715
past people we don't care for.

646
00:23:14,738 --> 00:23:14,994
Yeah.

647
00:23:15,205 --> 00:23:17,623
And just kind of be in
our own little bubble.

648
00:23:17,922 --> 00:23:18,376
Yeah.

649
00:23:18,377 --> 00:23:22,778
It's what… I used to let people's
presence kind of affect how I

650
00:23:22,785 --> 00:23:27,324
felt in the moment, and I really
had to sit back and go, "Why?"

651
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:27,756
Yeah.

652
00:23:27,794 --> 00:23:30,983
"
Why am I letting these people kind of hold
that control over me?" Yeah. "Fuck that.

653
00:23:31,060 --> 00:23:32,211
I'm here to have a good time.

654
00:23:32,212 --> 00:23:32,996
I'm with my wife.

655
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,376
I'm with friends or whatever.

656
00:23:35,339 --> 00:23:36,261
I don't give a fuck about them."

657
00:23:36,297 --> 00:23:36,552
Yeah.

658
00:23:36,552 --> 00:23:37,033
You know what I mean?

659
00:23:37,036 --> 00:23:40,058
And so, yeah, that, that's really
changed a lot, and so that,

660
00:23:40,237 --> 00:23:41,341
that really doesn't happen.

661
00:23:41,706 --> 00:23:44,679
Now, there have been… There's
certain people that I'm just like,

662
00:23:44,734 --> 00:23:48,132
"Ugh, I don't know if I wanna be here,
though- Yeah … if they're here."

663
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:48,575
Yes.

664
00:23:48,739 --> 00:23:48,935
Yes.

665
00:23:48,937 --> 00:23:49,422
You know?

666
00:23:49,782 --> 00:23:50,387
But again-

667
00:23:50,387 --> 00:23:51,831
We know how to get into our own little-

668
00:23:51,925 --> 00:23:52,331
Yeah.

669
00:23:52,338 --> 00:23:52,687
Really.

670
00:23:52,687 --> 00:23:52,697
Yeah.

671
00:23:52,697 --> 00:23:55,459
I mean, y- you know, I've learned
to just focus on you and focus on

672
00:23:55,459 --> 00:23:56,551
the people that are around me and-

673
00:23:56,553 --> 00:23:57,015
Yeah

674
00:23:57,100 --> 00:23:59,560
and they just kinda enter
the blurry background.

675
00:23:59,623 --> 00:23:59,934
Yeah.

676
00:24:00,024 --> 00:24:00,251
Yeah.

677
00:24:00,597 --> 00:24:03,411
Now, a lot of people follow this show-

678
00:24:03,527 --> 00:24:03,817
Yeah

679
00:24:03,896 --> 00:24:05,920
…
but they also follow your Bald Truth.

680
00:24:06,025 --> 00:24:06,597
Oh, yeah.

681
00:24:06,954 --> 00:24:06,964
Yeah.

682
00:24:06,964 --> 00:24:08,764
You're, you're really big on your soc-

683
00:24:08,828 --> 00:24:09,363
My Tik- my

684
00:24:09,363 --> 00:24:12,130
TikTok … your Tickety Tok and your
social- Yeah … media content and stuff.

685
00:24:12,434 --> 00:24:12,577
Yeah.

686
00:24:12,588 --> 00:24:16,989
Do you feel like that has changed your
concept of how you live in the lifestyle?

687
00:24:18,149 --> 00:24:19,897
Yes, that's a really good question.

688
00:24:19,918 --> 00:24:20,321
Yeah.

689
00:24:20,384 --> 00:24:25,534
That, you know, it's, it's
one of those things where you,

690
00:24:26,432 --> 00:24:28,024
you can't just talk about it.

691
00:24:28,096 --> 00:24:28,998
You have to be about it.

692
00:24:28,998 --> 00:24:29,093
Be

693
00:24:29,094 --> 00:24:29,445
about it.

694
00:24:29,448 --> 00:24:29,818
Yeah.

695
00:24:29,818 --> 00:24:29,828
Yeah.

696
00:24:29,923 --> 00:24:32,634
And, and I think we… Because there
have been times where stuff has

697
00:24:32,636 --> 00:24:35,659
come up and it's like, "Hey, we have
to handle this the way we always

698
00:24:35,660 --> 00:24:36,972
talk about how we handle this."

699
00:24:37,017 --> 00:24:41,253
And talking about the different things
that come up, having the podcast, but

700
00:24:41,253 --> 00:24:44,437
also The Bald Truth and, and people
who message and they're like, "Hey, is

701
00:24:44,437 --> 00:24:47,263
this natural or is this…" And, you
know- Mm-hmm … you have to really

702
00:24:47,269 --> 00:24:49,015
take, kind of take a stance on it.

703
00:24:49,993 --> 00:24:55,720
And the way I look at things is,
is this is a very diverse and vast

704
00:24:55,731 --> 00:24:58,902
community of a lot of different
personalities, a lot of different

705
00:24:59,011 --> 00:25:00,705
people and how they handle things.

706
00:25:01,163 --> 00:25:04,722
The message is universal, but
the delivery is not, right?

707
00:25:05,069 --> 00:25:09,898
So while I can tell people
the message, some people might

708
00:25:09,900 --> 00:25:11,953
feel attacked or ashamed-

709
00:25:11,961 --> 00:25:12,288
Mm-hmm

710
00:25:12,288 --> 00:25:13,703
…
by whatever the message is.

711
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,690
So I really try to-

712
00:25:16,090 --> 00:25:16,225
You're

713
00:25:16,225 --> 00:25:16,959
very sweet … mold it-

714
00:25:16,964 --> 00:25:17,339
Yeah

715
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,134
…
to make everybody feel seen.

716
00:25:20,171 --> 00:25:20,308
Mm-hmm.

717
00:25:20,319 --> 00:25:25,919
Make everybody understand that, you
know, this is probably a better way

718
00:25:25,921 --> 00:25:29,673
to handle this than this without
experiencing the shame of- Yeah

719
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:30,066
going,

720
00:25:30,584 --> 00:25:30,731
"
I

721
00:25:30,731 --> 00:25:31,597
just got told."

722
00:25:31,662 --> 00:25:33,892
I mean, I feel like you, you feel like
you have that conversation with me a lot.

723
00:25:34,036 --> 00:25:34,933
I feel bad.

724
00:25:34,961 --> 00:25:39,170
You know, for the longest time, I always
felt bad because you are who you are.

725
00:25:39,335 --> 00:25:39,562
Yeah.

726
00:25:39,584 --> 00:25:40,143
You know what I mean?

727
00:25:40,146 --> 00:25:46,118
You were raised a certain way and, and,
uh- You can be a very jealous person

728
00:25:46,163 --> 00:25:48,715
about people and, or, or you can judge.

729
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:48,827
Mm-hmm.

730
00:25:48,827 --> 00:25:50,176
You can be judgy sometimes.

731
00:25:50,176 --> 00:25:50,186
Mm-hmm.

732
00:25:50,594 --> 00:25:57,967
And I have reacted sometimes to your
immediate judginess with backlash.

733
00:25:58,043 --> 00:26:00,215
I've been like, "How
can you say that?" Yeah.

734
00:26:00,215 --> 00:26:01,437
Like, "You don't even know them." Like-

735
00:26:01,437 --> 00:26:01,694
Yeah

736
00:26:01,694 --> 00:26:07,098
…
and I feel bad because that's me reacting,
and it's not me taking into consideration

737
00:26:07,098 --> 00:26:09,306
that it's just an initial feeling.

738
00:26:09,406 --> 00:26:11,086
You know, you don't really know them.

739
00:26:11,087 --> 00:26:13,029
It's just how you felt-
Yeah … in the moment.

740
00:26:13,098 --> 00:26:16,642
But I w- I used to get kind of
disappointed 'cause I'd be like, "That's

741
00:26:16,642 --> 00:26:18,345
not the woman that I married," you know?

742
00:26:18,347 --> 00:26:21,113
Like- Yeah … "You're, you're
supposed to be like me," you know?

743
00:26:21,431 --> 00:26:23,569
And that's, it, it took me a while.

744
00:26:23,569 --> 00:26:23,579
Far.

745
00:26:23,579 --> 00:26:23,750
Yeah.

746
00:26:23,750 --> 00:26:26,752
Yeah, it took me a while to realize,
you know, we aren't on the same

747
00:26:26,764 --> 00:26:28,931
page on, on a lot of that stuff.

748
00:26:28,961 --> 00:26:29,256
Yeah.

749
00:26:29,282 --> 00:26:35,106
And what's really cool though, and I
think it's a beautiful thing, is that

750
00:26:35,106 --> 00:26:40,473
you like… You kind of admire the
way that I am in accepting people, and

751
00:26:40,473 --> 00:26:45,800
you really have changed a lot of your
viewpoints and how you handle things.

752
00:26:46,370 --> 00:26:47,619
Yeah, how I handle it.

753
00:26:47,620 --> 00:26:47,751
I

754
00:26:47,762 --> 00:26:48,277
have, yeah.

755
00:26:48,277 --> 00:26:51,480
I mean, uh, there, I mean, there's
still the foundation that is purely you.

756
00:26:51,485 --> 00:26:52,081
It's still there.

757
00:26:52,544 --> 00:26:56,834
Tried your best to keep open minds
on certain things and give people

758
00:26:56,836 --> 00:26:58,278
chances and things- Yeah … like that.

759
00:26:58,279 --> 00:27:01,871
Like, it's… A- and you've seen that it,
it works- Mm-hmm, mm-hmm … at times.

760
00:27:01,871 --> 00:27:04,710
So yeah, I think that's,
I think that's cool.

761
00:27:04,883 --> 00:27:05,495
That's what I think.

762
00:27:05,497 --> 00:27:07,071
But you know, I don't know.

763
00:27:07,071 --> 00:27:10,815
I, I, I like the, I like
providing the content for people.

764
00:27:10,816 --> 00:27:15,127
I like being able to help educate,
but it also really does keep

765
00:27:15,134 --> 00:27:16,838
me on the straight and narrow.

766
00:27:16,838 --> 00:27:22,052
It keeps me- Yeah … you know, I can't
go out to a club and ogle some woman.

767
00:27:22,325 --> 00:27:22,614
Yeah.

768
00:27:22,657 --> 00:27:23,288
You know what I mean?

769
00:27:23,294 --> 00:27:23,516
No.

770
00:27:23,605 --> 00:27:24,792
I have to be respectful.

771
00:27:24,823 --> 00:27:29,821
I can't go and just, uh, you know,
go up to somebody and grab their ass.

772
00:27:29,885 --> 00:27:34,942
Sometimes that ass looks good and you
wanna grab it, but I can't do that.

773
00:27:35,001 --> 00:27:35,188
No.

774
00:27:35,414 --> 00:27:39,537
I have to… I feel like in the
position that I'm in and the content

775
00:27:39,537 --> 00:27:42,301
that I put out- We're being watched.

776
00:27:42,895 --> 00:27:46,266
People want to take down
people who are forward-facing.

777
00:27:46,537 --> 00:27:49,054
So they're gonna look at
everything that you do.

778
00:27:49,079 --> 00:27:49,135
Mm-hmm.

779
00:27:49,135 --> 00:27:52,175
And they're gonna listen to everything
that you say, and the moment that you

780
00:27:52,191 --> 00:27:57,646
give them a crack in the wall, they're
gonna push the water through, and they're

781
00:27:57,647 --> 00:28:00,471
gonna take screenshots, and they're
gonna talk to their communities, and

782
00:28:00,471 --> 00:28:04,096
they're gonna be like, "I saw them at
the club and they were doing this, but

783
00:28:04,096 --> 00:28:05,801
they clearly came out and said this."

784
00:28:05,844 --> 00:28:06,393
Oh, man.

785
00:28:06,521 --> 00:28:08,023
You, you… One, we're all human.

786
00:28:08,501 --> 00:28:09,566
People make mistakes.

787
00:28:09,619 --> 00:28:12,619
People do things, and, and sometimes
they don't fully think it through.

788
00:28:12,862 --> 00:28:13,075
Yeah.

789
00:28:13,728 --> 00:28:18,058
But at the same time, it, it really
does keep me on the straight and narrow.

790
00:28:18,113 --> 00:28:18,500
Good.

791
00:28:18,572 --> 00:28:18,927
Yeah.

792
00:28:19,771 --> 00:28:20,481
Yeah, it really does.

793
00:28:20,485 --> 00:28:22,268
Well, I liked asking
you all these questions.

794
00:28:22,288 --> 00:28:23,430
Yeah, this was a fun one.

795
00:28:23,430 --> 00:28:23,452
Yeah.

796
00:28:23,467 --> 00:28:24,272
This really was kinda

797
00:28:24,274 --> 00:28:24,573
cool.

798
00:28:24,573 --> 00:28:24,788
It was just different.

799
00:28:24,788 --> 00:28:26,854
I, it's- A little different point of view.

800
00:28:26,858 --> 00:28:30,558
I mean, we're always on point and about
our, our shows and stuff like that,

801
00:28:31,028 --> 00:28:35,389
that, you know, sometimes you just
wanna do something out of the norm.

802
00:28:35,578 --> 00:28:40,423
Yeah, you know, it was, uh, actually a
lot of fun for me because I normally have

803
00:28:40,423 --> 00:28:41,975
to do a lot of thinking for these shows.

804
00:28:41,978 --> 00:28:42,263
Yeah.

805
00:28:42,956 --> 00:28:44,324
I didn't have to do any
thinking for this show.

806
00:28:44,324 --> 00:28:44,354
There you go.

807
00:28:44,681 --> 00:28:45,137
You're welcome.

808
00:28:45,144 --> 00:28:46,626
So this was, this was nice.

809
00:28:46,628 --> 00:28:50,889
It was nice to be asked the question and
to be able to answer just forthcomingly.

810
00:28:50,905 --> 00:28:53,106
So I think that was a lot of fun.

811
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,033
And you know, if this episode
got you thinking, head over

812
00:28:55,033 --> 00:28:56,601
to beyond-monogamy.com.

813
00:28:56,601 --> 00:28:58,311
That's our website as always.

814
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,283
That's where you're gonna find every
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815
00:29:02,284 --> 00:29:05,389
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816
00:29:05,389 --> 00:29:10,382
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817
00:29:10,734 --> 00:29:13,429
You can also catch us on Full
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818
00:29:13,469 --> 00:29:14,982
at 2:00 and 7:00 PM Central.

819
00:29:14,998 --> 00:29:17,501
And if you're in the Austin
area, you can come see us at

820
00:29:17,501 --> 00:29:19,221
Forbidden Fruit on November 15th.

821
00:29:19,221 --> 00:29:21,142
We're gonna be doing a
Swinger 101 workshop.

822
00:29:21,273 --> 00:29:21,673
That's right.

823
00:29:21,674 --> 00:29:22,980
That's gonna be a whole lot of fun.

824
00:29:23,038 --> 00:29:23,048
Mm-hmm.

825
00:29:23,048 --> 00:29:26,537
And also we're gonna see you in
Kansas City, Missouri, hopefully,

826
00:29:26,587 --> 00:29:28,447
uh, for Krazy Winter Nights.

827
00:29:28,449 --> 00:29:31,452
That's the, uh, big swingers
convention out there.

828
00:29:31,452 --> 00:29:35,399
And it's on February 19th
through the 21st of 2027.

829
00:29:35,491 --> 00:29:38,025
If you wanna come hang out with us, we're
gonna be doing live shows out there.

830
00:29:38,026 --> 00:29:40,720
You can go to the website krazykasbh.com.

831
00:29:40,767 --> 00:29:42,103
Uh, that's gonna be in our show notes.

832
00:29:42,126 --> 00:29:43,713
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833
00:29:43,713 --> 00:29:46,192
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834
00:29:46,217 --> 00:29:46,445
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835
00:29:46,445 --> 00:29:49,202
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836
00:29:49,202 --> 00:29:49,289
Yeah.

837
00:29:49,289 --> 00:29:50,389
And you can come out and hang out with us.

838
00:29:50,442 --> 00:29:50,478
Mm-hmm.

839
00:29:50,478 --> 00:29:50,886
Yeah.

840
00:29:51,067 --> 00:29:54,112
And with that, we thank you all
for joining us for another episode.

841
00:29:54,125 --> 00:29:56,708
We hope you really enjoyed it, and
we will see you guys next week.

842
00:29:56,749 --> 00:29:57,720
Bye.