Red Flags & Green Flags in the Swinging Lifestyle

0:07 Alright y'all, before we dive in, a quick heads up. This show is raw, real, and definitely not rated pg. We're talking about adult themes, sexual content, and the kind of stuff you probably don't want blasting through your speakers at work or around your kits. So grab some headphones, pour your drink of choice and get comfy. Oh, and just so we're clear, we are not licensed therapists, counselors, or sex. Couches. Sex coaches. Sex coaches, not sex couches or just a couple of people sharing our lives, experiences and sexy adventures. An ethical non-monogamy.

0:47 So with that, pull up a chair and enjoy the show. And. Hello, and welcome to another episode of Beyond Monogamy. I'm Adam. And I'm Pris. Also known as La Toxica. I'm just kidding. The only reason I say that is because we just recently had a conversation on SDC on our live webinar about red flags and green flags, and so we decided to carry it on to Wednesday's quickie. That's right. That's right. So if you missed the SDC webinar that we just did. Sit down, relax. Buckle your seatbelt, because we're gonna get into this. We do. Yeah. And yeah, it was interesting. It was interesting. It was a lot of fun. I, I have to kick us off a quick question.

1:27 Okay. And I know I asked it in there, and I'm gonna, I'm gonna get into it again because you, my dear are, are for lack of a better word Hmm. Aldi, I'm very maldi. Just a tad. Yes. Just a tiny, uh, you're very opinionated. I love it. Yes. I love you for it. Yes. Uh, but I would like to know Red flags as far as men and as far as women, you're a bisexual woman. So you're interested in both men and women, although you're more interested in women. Yes. Right? Yes. What are your glaring red flags when it comes to pursuits of men and women? Um, I think for men, it's when you have a conversation with me and we're cool and we're just being really friendly for maybe like the first day.

2:09 We're just, you know, messaging, just bullshit. But then the next day or whenever, you just make it sexual super fast, red flag for me. Yeah, I don't want anything to do with you. You're never gonna get in these pants. Now for women, it's if. If we've had conversations already and say it's a woman in a group text, or maybe just say it's a single woman and she's just talking, but she no longer is talking to me and she's more having a conversation with you. Mm-hmm. And just kind of leaves me out. Like say we have a group text and they, she answers you and never comes back to the group text. But I know she's already texted you. Yeah. Like, maybe not about that. It's like, nah, there you go. Yeah. Yeah. I've lost interest. That's a red flag for me because I feel like you're not respecting my boundaries or you think I'm a nobody.

2:53 Yeah. And no. Yeah, no, I am a somebody. We, we have had that. Yeah, we have come up before. Um, now do me a favor. Repeat that first one right quick. Just remind me what the first one is. When men have conversations with me when they're regular and, and they send a, a dick pic or they turn it sexual, or they just turn it sexual. Now it, that does not apply to women though. So if you're talking to a woman and say she sends you a nude real fast, is that a red flag to you? No. But if a man does it, it's yes. Okay. Okay. Now, if different standards for different gender, if a turns its sexual right away, Uhhuh, that's a red flag. Yes. But if a woman turns it sexual right away because I'm all down for it.

3:36 No really. Double standards a thing, double standards, they are a thing. Um, they're a thing. I, it's very hard for me. I feel like the men in the lifestyle just want one thing. You just wanna have sex, which is great. Well, isn't that what we're all here for? Yes. Great. Perfect. I, I thought that's what you wanted. It is Uhhuh, but I don't always want it with men. Fair. I'm in this lifestyle. For women. That's right. Yes. I play with men. It's very hard to be a person, a man that I play with. It's not easy because you gotta jump through some hoops. You do. And also, I'm gonna also be very straight up for women. You have to jump through hoops also. Like I wanna, I'm gonna verify that you are a person.

4:17 I know a person I've talked to before or have met. If I have never have, and you turn it sexual, you're out. So it is double standard. And you know, realistically, a lot of women, I mean, you have that power, you have that power to operate that way, and there's a lot of women who don't realize that they have that power. Yeah. But this is women centric guys. Like you, women can make your rules. You have the ability to say what you want and don't want, and hey, power to you do it. It's hot. Yeah. I mean, it is, it's different, it's different rules or boundaries that I put for women and men. So, you know, I have, I have red flags for men and women, uh, even though I'm, I'm straight. Mm-hmm.

4:57 Uh, obviously I'm not dating a man or I'm not doing anything sexual with a man. I do have red flags. The biggest one for me is pushiness all day or day. When you meet somebody and you know right away by the second conversation or sometimes the first conversation, there is this sense of urgency I've gotta get. I've gotta meet you guys, or I've gotta talk to your wife, or I've gotta do this. Mm-hmm. Or I gotta do that. Mm-hmm. We've gotta set up a play date. That's a red flag for you. Yeah. Hold your horses there, man. Yeah, because I'm, I'm very laid back and we're booked out, frankly, like by two months. What's funny is, did you know you used to be like that? So you've said Yeah, you've said that you used to wanna like, really?

5:40 And you know what my, and that's why I can understand this thinking because I used to think that way. Yeah. My thought was, if I don't meet them right away. I'm never gonna have an opportunity. Yeah, yeah. Right. As time has come through, I've realized, look, I'm not going anywhere. These people are not going anywhere. Yeah. And if they do go somewhere, then it was not meant to be. Yeah. Um, I was very I wanted my experiences. I didn't care about making connections. Mm. And now I'm all about connections, whether we have sex or not. Yeah. I, I haven't already had my experiences, guys, if you've listened to the podcast, you know, I've had my experiences. And so that's not my pursuit anymore. Mm-hmm. My pursuit is connections.

6:21 Yeah. Uh, and I think that's, that's really, it's an understandable red flag, but a red flag nonetheless. Getting pushy to, to get to meet this and that. Sometimes you'll run into guys as a husband, you'll get messaged Hey, you know, can I, can I at least see pictures of your wife naked? What? Do you know that not only, not only is that not, uh, not only is that pushy, but that's. Disrespectful. Mm-hmm. Fuck off. You gotta understand my wife is my most treasured thing to me outside of my own children. And if I'm going to share her with anybody, yes, she's independent on her own, but I'm gonna share her with anybody.

7:03 I have to approve of the kind of person you are. I have to know who you are. Mm-hmm. How you operate. Because if you're not going to treat my wife with the respect that I treat my wife with, then you can fuck right off. I mean, that's the, the matter of fact about it. Period. Period. End of sentence. New chapter. Yes. Oh, thank you. It's true. I love you. It's true. And you know, I know a lot of guys who operate that way. Sadly enough. I know a lot of guys who do not Yeah. Operate that way. Yeah. And hey, you know, it is what it is. That's your lane. Whatever you want, you stay in it. That's cool. Yeah. Yeah. But don't expect to play with my wife, that's all I'm saying. Yeah. You know, it's, it's just not gonna happen.

7:45 And there's very few times that I step in when my wife is showing interest in this, primarily because she's pickier than I would be for her. So I know that if she's interested in somebody, chances are her intuition is good. But even still how you operate with me, uh, in front of me. Mm-hmm. If I don't see the respect coming through, if you can't acknowledge me, if you can't talk to me then it's not gonna happen. Yeah. And I don't even have to say anything. If you don't acknowledge me, if you don't talk to me, she's gonna notice before I do. And she's gonna lose interest. Mm-hmm. You know, that's just how that goes. Yeah. You know, uh, that's stuff you gotta think about. It's, yeah, because, I mean, those are like the major, I don't know, red, red flags.

8:30 You just gotta make sure that you understand and read the person that you're gonna talk to. And if you come at me very sexually, I'm missing to be like, yeah, no. Yeah, I get it. I do get the he of. Sexual Horny brain. Horny brain. Yeah, I get it. People lose control with brand. Yeah. And you've seen, you've probably seen pictures of us in lingerie or me in lingerie, and the women that you're pursuing lingerie, and you, you're in the li they're in the lifestyle. You think you're entitled. It's not, it's entitlement. That's the red flag I feel for a lot of men. Uh, for men. And that's, uh, what we were talking about the other day. You had said, it's not that I hate men.

9:10 I don't hate men. No. There's actually a lot of men I, I do enjoy. It's the men who feel entitled. Entitled. And this can go on from your regular life to your lifestyle. And actually, for me, it does. I do not like men who come off entitled, it's not it don't go there. I am my own person. I do my own thing. I can say no anytime I want. I could not like you today and maybe like you tomorrow. That's my prerogative, not yours, but it is what? It's she's, she's a cat. It's a female cat. Ladies and gentlemen, she'll love you one day and they'll she'll show you her butt the next Yes, she walks away and like for women too, I mean, they're the same way. If you don't show me respect.

9:52 And it's just me and you, not even my husband's involved. If you just wanna show me respect, then I'm out. And, you know, it's a simple it, it really doesn't take much. It's simple. No. It's, uh, you know, a handshake. It's a hello. Mm-hmm. You know? Mm-hmm. Yeah. You, I understand. You don't want to talk to me, you want to talk to her. That's cool. But have the respect to acknowledge that I'm here Yes. And that I am. Attached to her. Yes. Because that's disrespectful. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? Now as far as my gr my red flag for women. Yeah. I, I really should have thought about this. Uh, but as far as my red flag for women I notice and you know, sometimes it's a, it's a neediness.

10:33 Yeah. There's a neediness that I will see. Do you see it now? I do. No, I do now. I didn't used to. Uh, I do now. Uh, and I think maybe because as I get older, I value my time more. I don't wanna waste my time with just anybody. But yeah, I do see it. Excuse me. Throat got dry. Yeah, I do. I do see it though. Uh, the neediness will appear after a while. Uh, because we do what we do and we're constantly talking to people and we're constantly we're constantly on, I guess you could say. Right. The time that I have that I don't have to be on, I value. I gotcha. Um, and so if I have people that I'm talking to.

11:15 They have to be genuine with me. Mm. So that I can be genuine with them. Mm-hmm. I don't want to feel like I have to be on. Mm-hmm. I don't want feel like I have to be constantly on you wanna talk to me as a friend? Cool. But. Don't expect it every single day. You know, let me have, take things at my own pace. Yeah. Don't expect me, you know, don't guilt me into, Hey, you know you didn't message me yesterday. Yeah. Whoa. There. Say that chappy. Oh my god. And if I wouldn get his phone and read that, I would be like, I would have to like reply to that message and be like, nah, nah. Pump them brakes. No. Pump their brakes girl. Them brakes. You kidding? Crazy. I don't wanna have your baby.

11:56 So listen, that's, and it's come up but it's happened before. It's happened before. It has happened before. It has happened before, yes. And lemme tell you, uh, when it happens, boy, is it a conversation? Yeah. Not a cool one either. No, not a cool one. Yeah. You never like to have those conversations before? No, I don't. So I'm a very positive, very happy person. I don't like to have these, uh, uncomfortable conversations if I don't have to have them. I will if I have to. Yeah. But I normally like to see how things kind of play out. I normally can see how things play out but every so often there will be somebody who comes to the. Yeah, and takes his swing.

12:37 Swings for the fences. Yeah. And, and really, you know, it's like, hey, take it easy now. Uh, and you know, there's things that I have that prevent this. My phone goes to do not disturb at eight 30 at night. Mm-hmm. Automatically. So if you're texting me, if you're messaging me after a certain point, sorry, but I'm not gonna get those messages. Mm-hmm. I'm paying attention to my wife, I'm hanging out with my kids, whatever. You know, um, your kids don't, our kids don't like us anymore. It's just, we're just hanging out together. The moment that I see any kind of guilt trip for not messaging somebody back or messaging them right away or whatever, yeah. Anything like that, yeah. I will have an instant, uncomfortable feeling.

13:19 Feeling, and I will say. Red flag. I will literally tell myself that. I'll be like, red flag. Yeah. Because if I don't say it out loud, I will internally justify it some way or another to overlook it. Right. And go, that wasn't what you thought it was. Yeah. But if I say it out loud and I'm like, ah, it was in my face enough to say it out loud. Red flag. Right. I have it. I've seen it. I identified it. Do, where do I go with this now? Yeah. And, and then it's pretty much, I gotta jokingly or humorously set a boundary with them In a nice way, uh, without it getting too uncomfortable.

13:59 Right. But basically put the message out there. Yeah. Uh, now some people don't take that message. You could put it nicely. Some people don't take it. No. Some people, uh, get upset. Yes. In which case they make it very easy. Yeah. To walk away from that. But it does happen, you know. It does happen. Just happens. It's, it's a, it's a thing. That's the thing. Another red flag that we talked about was pressure. Pressure. If the man is pressuring his wife. Or the woman is pressuring her husband to be in the lifestyle or things like that. And you can see it because we actually, I wanna say that I saw it this weekend. I saw a woman pressuring her man to be in the lifestyle.

14:40 They went to the club, is that right? And she had already tried and she really wanted to kind of be in the lifestyle. And so she took him, but he wasn't into it. He wasn't liking it. And so she was really. Putting on the pressure. And I thought that was so kind of sad 'cause I was like, man, he's just not really into it. That's, that's the hard part. And I felt like that was us for. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. The first few years. Yeah. You know, I was interested in getting experiences. Yeah. And you just weren't really that interested. I have. As you were kind of on board. Yeah. But not really. I, I actually, that was a rough one. I have some times where I'm just not interested at all periods.

15:23 Yeah. There's just I'm very in tune with my body and my emotional status and my hormones that I'm just, if I'm not feeling it, I'm gonna make it uncomfortable for him. So I just tell him like, that's true. I'm not feeling it right now. Like, maybe it's my meds, maybe something's just off balance, but I just need you right now. I need your time. I need, you know, some attention. Yeah. Or extra attention. And, you know, uh, I'm not gonna lie, that can. If I was self-centered, that would bother the hell outta me. But we do this together. In situations like that, you know, sometimes if your partner's asking, Hey, you need to take a step back, let's take a step back. Yeah. I'm a very needy person.

16:05 Yes. I'm very needy. Um, that's true. She's the only person that I can be okay with being needy. I mean, I'm needy. Y you can't sell, but I literally have my legs on and, and I'm just show she's got her legs across me because. But you know, I mean, that's the, that's the partnership that we have. Mm-hmm. That's the, that's the bond that we have. Mm-hmm. I wonder though what is a big, what's a big green flag for you when you're, when you're for both men and, and women for you? I actually, when I see a couple that has super, super. Like our besties. Super good conversation. Super good communication. Yeah. I find it so freaking sexy. It is hot. You know what else? I'm very, very old school.

16:45 I like that. If you tell me, Hey, even if it's a guy, Hey, I messaged your husband to see if I could message you and your husband said for me to message you, and you'd say yay or nay. You just wind yourself a point. Um, that's a really good green flag. If it's. A woman and she's saying she's being very transparent with me. Her intentions are clear. Green flag communication, baby communication. I love it. That's what it's all about. Yeah. Yeah. Those are, those are some damn good. Green flags I like, so I like people who are self-aware. Yes. I like people who are constantly trying to figure themselves out.

17:27 Figure out what they want, figure out how to, better themselves. You know, obviously that's, that's the path I'm on. Mm-hmm. I'm always trying to better myself, so when I meet other people, you're who are like that. Yeah. Just, I dig that. You kind of attract those people now. Yeah. Now. You don't before. I didn't, don't you don't attract the ika anymore. Yeah. You're the, you're the, you're, I'm the now You're the only one. Now You're the only one. And I mentioned, I start, I said that in the beginning of the, of the show because we were on a live webinar and I, they were saying that toxic jealousy is toxic and insecurities are toxic. And I'm like, I, I am 100% the toxic woman.

18:09 I am the person you should not date, but not marry. But she's come a long way, you know? But I know, yeah. And I know of my red flags and, you know, my red flags. Yeah. You're self-aware. I'm self-aware and I, and I do try to compose myself in a certain manner where it's not like being very demanding. I'm just, this is my relationship and this is what I want, and we're gonna figure it out together and do what we want. Yeah. But I am, I'm a very jealous person. Yeah. And I'm not jealous of people. Really, it's really, I'm jealous of situations and jealous of situations. Yeah. How's that? I get jealous when you're having really good conversations with people.

18:50 And I'm not, it's like, damn. Really? Butthead? Yeah. Or I get jealous when I get jealous, like dumb things. Like, Ooh, he liked a certain picture. No, you didn't. Still, you still get that? No, not really. You know, I don't know what I get jealous about anymore. But when I get jealous, I'll let you know. Well, I mean, there was a jealousy issue recently when we had that we were involved in one, uh, one orgy, and you were like, I didn't care for that. Um, it's, it's not a jealousy thing. It's more of a territorial thing. What's the difference? That was more territorial. What's the difference? Um, like more like That's mine. That's mine. Yeah. Um. Wouldn't that be a form of jealousy? I mean, I guess yeah.

19:30 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I dunno if I, I mean, I know I'm jealous, but honestly, I dunno. I'm curious. I'm a, I'm a jealous person. I don't know if that's a form of jealousy. Yeah. I mean, I guess it could be. I mean, if it's not, it, it seems to be in the family. Yeah. No, it might be. Yeah. I don't know. Um, yeah, I didn't care for certain things and it's like, yeah, no. Mm-hmm. That did not make me feel, first of all, I don't have compersion, so it's very hard for me to. Like things that he likes, and so I'm like but see this is what I'm saying. Yeah. I don't really feel, I like, I understand that we got our red flags, we got our green flags, but I really don't feel it's as black and white or as red as green as we make it out to be. No, there is a major gray zone there is.

20:13 That everything operates in. Mm-hmm. And of course, everything is situational to what you and your partner have, have discussed. Yeah. Because maybe this is how you guys do your things mm-hmm. And what y'all do. You know, maybe it's not in the same alignment as us. Mm-hmm. And it may be a red flag for us. It may not be a red flag for y'all. Or it may be a green flag for us. It may not be a green flag for y'all. You know, so, and it's, we get, everybody does something different. Everybody does something different. I am, I. I expressed to him I didn't like something and I didn't really wait too long to express it. He asked me if I liked it, liked something, and I said, no, I did not. Like, I didn't care for that. He sat back and he was like, okay, why? And I was like, I can't really, just didn't.

20:55 Okay. And that was it. That was it. There was no other, because it's Is it clear to him? No. Is it clear to me? No, but I have to tell him. And eventually we try to get down to it. And usually she is good in the fact that if she can't really explain it, it kind of goes away. She may just, she may just let it go and be like, whatever. Yeah. Whatever. She may just let it go and it just goes out the window. Yeah. But it's one of those things where you kind of set it Yeah. And it's out there. Yeah. Now it's done. Oh wow. I did it. Okay. Hold on. Gimme some time. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so I do have a lot of self-awareness of my red flags, and my husband knows of them, obviously, and they're just, I do have a lot of green flags.

21:39 I, I'm really nice sometimes. I like a person who can gracefully take a note. Oh yeah. Now that's not something that comes up very often, uh, or that is talked about very clearly, but I will admit 100% early on the several, the first few years that we were swingers, when we would get told no, I took it very personally. Yeah. And I didn't take it out on them. I didn't act different to them or anything like that, but I Have you been internalized it? Oh yeah. Oh. Yeah, we have. Yeah. Or they'll ghost us. Oh yeah. Yeah. We've been, yeah, no way, man. And so I used to take that very personally.

22:21 I was like, okay, you know what, whatever it is it's 'cause I'm ugly or it's 'cause I'm, 'cause I can't read good or whatever. You know, it is, I don't know, whatever it was about me that they decided this, I, I don't, I'm not interested. I used to get inside myself, but you know what, we're not everybody's cup of tea. Yeah, I know. I'm not everybody's cup of tea. We are not. I'm not for everybody. And when you look at it in that perceptive way I'm okay taking the note. I'll take a no 100% of the time just to just have the balls to say it. Mm. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? There's a lot of people who don't have the balls to say it. Mm-hmm. And then they just ghost or they pretend you're not there.

23:02 Mm-hmm. Or, you know, they'll make up whatever, but have, be an adult. Yeah. Let's be an adult and tell another adult, Hey, you know what, I'm sorry, but I'm not interested. Mm-hmm. And you don't have to explain why. And if the person asks you to explain why, you just say, I'm sorry, I don't, I don't wanna get into it. But yeah. You know, I think you're really awesome. I just, I'm not interested. And if they don't take that no gracefully, then they gotta walk, you know what I mean? They gotta fly the coop. They gotta take it easy. They gotta go, they gotta go. So, no, I mean, there's, there's a lot. So don't, red flags, green flags. To the outside, to their partner, it might be something they've already settled on.

23:43 We're just expressing hours because we have the show. So yeah, we're gonna express ours. I'm very transparent of my toxicity, like I get it. But. For us. It's just the way I am. It's not a toxic trait to my husband. Yeah. It's just a trait. It's just who I am. And he's known since we started and I've gotten a lot better. But I do still have certain things that just trigger me. And you know, we're not a perfect couple. We're not a perfect couple. You show you show me the perfect couple that's out there. Yeah. I mean, if you guys are perfect, God please let me know. I would love to interview you. Yes, please. Um, but realistically, we're all.

24:23 Trying to maintain our own relationship. Yeah. And that integrity and be able to have our fun as we see fit. Mm-hmm. And that takes, it takes some doing. Mm-hmm. Does that takes a lot of doing and it takes a lot of sitting back and self-reflection and. How is my relationship Yeah. With my partner, you know, there's just a lot of aspects to it. Yeah. I just don't think it's very simple as No, as people will make it out to be. Um, and I don't mean that in a negative way at all. I just, I think there's a lot of, of stuff that we can take from this that will make you grow. Mm-hmm. And I think that's so cool. Mm-hmm. To know that you can grow as a person. I think that's pretty awesome.

25:04 It's especially in a lifestyle where you get to have sex with other people. Yeah. You touch my beard? I did. That wasn't weird at all. That's 'cause you're married to me like a fury rug. Thank you for that. That is a green flag. Unless you're somebody other than my wife and you touch my beard. In which case my wife would be like, uh, excuse me. See? He knows. He knows it. Oh my gosh, man. We've had conversations with people before, or we've been talking to a, a single woman before and they'll say something and I know from the way they worded something that I was gonna have to eat shit later. The alpha, yeah, the alpha part of me just, she's gonna be like, why did she say that? How long have you guys been talking?

25:44 Why, why did she say it? Why did she say it like that? Nearly I didn't, I didn't tell her to say it like that. Yeah. You know, it's, I just roll my eyes sometimes when I'm not in the mood. I'm just like, whatever. This is a very diverse community and there's a lot of different now, guys, I'm telling you I am Laika. I am the original. Yeah that's what she says. She came from one too, you know. I did. My mom was very territorial. Yeah, very jealous of. But you know, that's, and that's one thing that, that people always ask us is like, how do you handle jealousy and stuff like that? Lemme tell you, I handle it. I put her in the closet, I handle it. Oh, she is a, she is. You know, I handle that. Do handle, lemme tell you what, I handle that shit. But let me tell you this too.

26:25 Mm-hmm. Let us be that. Inspirational example in the fact that you can be a jealous person and still be successful in this lifestyle as, as a couple. Because she's very, very jealous. But we communicate about it. Yeah. We work through it. This is what we do. And so there isn't a single thing I always said. There isn't a single thing that will, that will break us up. Yeah. Um, you know, that's because we talk about everything. Yeah. So there's nothing that will, you know, we have our agreements, you break the agreement. Well, why'd you do that? Let's talk about that. Mm-hmm. Why did you do that? Why did you do that? What happened there?

27:05 Yeah. You know what I mean? It's kind of how it, you know, it's a, it's emotional growth, and I think that's, that's what you get from this. Mm-hmm. Uh, this journey. If you do it and be open, be open with what you want and what you don't like, like your partner should be the one person that you can turn to and, yeah. And they should, you know, you should be able to have those conversations. So totally don't be the red flags that we're, don't be the red flags. She's a red flag. I'm the green flag. Hey, I know, like that was anybody else. Like I am just my way be, I'm jealous for h like of him, like I'm territorial. I'm jealous to make him feel better. Will that, will that fill out to anybody else? No, not unnecessarily. If you say or do something that triggers me, I'm gonna be very transparent with you.

27:47 I'm gonna be open, very honest with you and tell you. You said this to my husband and this made me feel a certain way. That is true. I don't hide around the bush. I don't beat around the bush. I don't hide. I am open and honest. That is a fact. That's great. Yes. That's good. Anyways. Thanks for hanging out with us this week. If you loved it, make sure to like, subscribe, share, and leave us a review 'cause it seriously helps us grow and keeps these conversations going. Yes, you can find everything beyond monogamy at www.beyond-monogamy.com, including our Beyond Monogamy Confessional. It is amazing guys. You leave a message and you let us know if we can read it on the show.

28:30 It's cool and we do a whole show about it, so Yeah. Yeah. You get to star in one of our shows without, actually, I love it. You know, showing your face. Yeah. You'll see all the blog posts, the merch, and all of the juicy extras. Don't forget to check out our events tab on our website, uh, for details on upcoming Beyond Monogamy events or even just where we may be hanging out, just in case you want to join us, you know? Yes. Uh, here's a few events to mark your calendars with next Sunday if you're in the Austin area. March 29th. I actually, I think it's, it's okay. March 29th is our in-person workshop at Forbidden Fruit here in Austin, Texas. If you want to join us for that, reach out to, uh, www.forbiddenfruit.com/workshops.

29:17 You'll see this handsome guy here, this beautiful lady there. Click the Tabby thing, you'll get all the information you need. Mm-hmm. And of course, the upcoming Texas Desires Hotel takeover. The weekend of April 11th, we'll be hanging there with all of our friends for the weekend and even doing a live in-person show from the festivities. Yeah, I believe they only have a few rooms left right now. So if you're interested, check out the events tab for more info. If you have any questions, feel free to reach out. We're gonna have a themed room there, so we're gonna have like a Yeah, we're gonna do the room. Yeah, we're gonna do like a little, conversation, open conversation podcast thing. So if you wanna be on the show and you're good with all that, you can sound a little waver and we're gonna interview you and it's gonna be amazing.

30:01 Wow, that sounds amazing. Yeah. Yeah, that sounds like a good time. Uh, we're also streaming every Thursday on full swap radio.com at 2:00 PM and 7:00 PM Central. So tune into that. Show us some love there too. Scope out some of the other podcast also, uh, just to tag on that the creators radio. They actually put on different events Yeah. Throughout the year. Yeah. Uh, and their winter fest, that's gonna be next year. Those hotel rooms are already booking up. And so guys, we're gonna be there. We actually have a code, uh, that we will be including in the show notes here, but it's at BEYO.

30:43 It's beo mono. All right. It's basically our Twitter. Yeah. At beo mono is the code that you can type in and you get a certain percentage off. Nice. I'll have all that information in the show, in the summary that you can read, uh, when the show drops. But yeah, something else to look forward to. It's really, really cool. We will be out there. Yeah. Uh, and as always, thanks for listening and we will see you guys next week. Bye.