Swinger Holiday Parties: Lifestyle Friends, Family & Key Parties
Key Takeaways
- Swinger holiday parties often bridge the gap between vanilla friendships and lifestyle connections, proving that the ethical non-monogamy community is built on genuine friendship and support rather than just sex.
- Navigating family events and the lifestyle requires clear boundaries, mutual respect, and understanding that lifestylers know how to behave respectfully around vanilla friends and family members.
- The swinger community provides an essential support network for mitigating holiday loneliness, offering friendsgivings and holiday gatherings for those who might otherwise be alone.
- Building deep friendships within the lifestyle often enhances sexual experiences because of increased trust, vulnerability, and honest communication.
- Planning a lifestyle holiday event can be as simple as gathering trusted couples for an Airbnb getaway complete with great food, designated play spaces, and plenty of laughs.
The holidays are here, and Adam & Pris are asking a question every swinger eventually faces: can your lifestyle friends and your family share the same Thanksgiving table? On this episode of Beyond Monogamy, the swinger and ethical non-monogamy (ENM) podcast, we get into lifestyle holiday parties, Friendsgivings with swinger friends, and why the swinger community shows up for each other when it counts.
In this episode:
- Why we used to keep lifestyle friends and vanilla friends in separate boxes, and what changed
- Swinger friends around kids and family: respect, discretion, and why it's not all about sex
- Holiday loneliness in the lifestyle and why you should invite someone over this season
- Planning our dream holiday play party: Airbnb, playrooms, DJ, finger foods, and the icebreaker debate
- Christmas key parties (car keys vs. lock and key) and why consent comes first
- Mixing swingers and vanilla guests at one party: our honest take
- Would we ever play on our anniversary? Pris's answer surprised Adam.
- Santa and Mrs. Claus kink, naughty elves, and homemade vs. H-E-B tamales
- Our two-year podcast anniversary lands on Thanksgiving!
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Frequently Asked Questions
Can lifestyle friends and vanilla family members mix at holiday events?
Yes, many swingers successfully blend their lifestyle friends and vanilla family by maintaining clear boundaries and keeping conversations focused on friendship rather than sexual activities.
Are swinger holiday parties always about sex?
No, swinger holiday parties focus heavily on community, socializing, eating great food, and enjoying friendships, much like any traditional holiday gathering.
How do swingers handle discretion around family and non-lifestyle friends?
Lifestylers are typically very aware of their surroundings and know how to act respectfully in vanilla settings, keeping private lifestyle details strictly within the appropriate circles.
What is the best way to handle holiday loneliness in the swinger community?
Many lifestylers and empty nesters in the community open their homes during the holidays to invite friends who might otherwise be alone, showcasing the strong support network within ethical non-monogamy.
0:05 All right, y'all. Before we dive in, a quick heads up. This show is raw, real, and definitely not rated PG. We're talking about adult themes, sexual content, and the kind of stuff you probably don't want blasting through your speakers at work or around your kids. So grab some headphones, pour your drink of choice and get comfy. Oh, and just so we're clear, we are not licensed therapists, counselors, or sex couches. Sex coach. Sex couches. Not sex couches. Or just a couple of people sharing our lives experiences and sexy adventures. An ethical non-monogamy. So with that, pull up a chair and enjoy the show.
0:49 Hello and welcome to another episode of Beyond Monogamy. I'm Adam. And I'm Pris. Why'd you look at me like that? Because I looked at you and I was thinking, What the hell are we talking about? Well, today, baby, it's gonna be Thanksgiving in a couple of weeks. So it is we have what, one more full week and a half to Thanksgiving. So we are ready. But I wanted to talk to you about lifestyle parties. Like when people have like Friends giving holiday lifestyle parties. And yeah, like holiday. Like we have never been to one. When we have um Friendsgivings or whenever we've had and whenever we've had Christmas parties, they've been pretty basic.
1:38 Like Yeah. I mean all of our friends are lifestylers, but it had it's never been a life a quotation marks. No lifestyle party. it's been a regular party. Well what would make a lifestyle party a lifestyle party? Well, if you're I think playing, I think playing is the main the main ticket. And for us, we we don't mix the two. No, no. No. you mean it's not that we can't. It's not like it's like it's not ooh, it's forbidden. Yeah, I I like the socializing. I like the community aspect of it. Um And that's really the the exciting part about the lifestyle is the whole community and and these people will have your back.
2:24 Like Yeah. Swinger communities are amazing. Friggin' amazing. Yes. It's crazy. Yeah. these are people that you may not know that well, but the fact that you guys may have had sex with each other so just have or just been in the same area or just friends with, you know. It this community really has each other's back in so many ways. Now can it be drama filled at times? Yeah, actually. Like everything else. Everything is uh high school mentality sometimes. But when it comes down to it, everybody really is a tight knit community. And when it comes to the holidays, I think this is the pretty spectacular part about it, because I never thought years back I never thought about spending our holidays with swingers.
3:17 Yeah. Well, like like I said, we when we were back in our hometown, we had a mix. We had a mix of regular friends and lifestyle friends. Yeah. And and we would tell the lifestyle friends there's a lot of uh regular friends here, so we don't it's not a mingle type of thing. It's we're just here for friendship. Yeah. Well, even then we didn't have lifestyle friends at at holiday parties. So that's the thing about it. Back Then we didn't do holiday parties with lifestyle friends. We only had vanilla friends. And when we would throw parties, we would all we weren't we weren't really a part of the community. No, it wasn't until here. And when we were uh doing the lifestyle bit of it, we weren't letting people into our personal lives.
3:58 And I've heard from people who have said, Well, The lifestyle is not that big a part of my life. Yeah. And so having people over as friends for vanilla time just doesn't make any sense for me. And I get that. It's always been some kind of like like Mm. No, we don't we don't we don't mix those two. Yeah, you know, and that's the w mentality of thinking that we had when we were back in our hometown. but then we came out here and we got to know the community and I remember the like the first year seeing people organize friendsgivings and seeing people who were alone for Christmas who were getting invited over to other people's houses, um, people's families getting together.
4:46 I remember sitting back a couple times and going you're having your kids talk to their kids like y'all are swingers. Like you know what I mean? Like I've had those those moments early on where it's like you want your families talking to each other, you know? And then after a while it was like, What's the big deal? Like they're not talking about sex in the families. Yeah, like this is just friendship. Like it took us a while to learn that because they are just friends. Like we that's all we have now. And we can bring them anywhere. Yeah, we really can But when it comes to Thanksgiving, for instance, I I don't I wanna just have my turkey.
5:27 but yeah, I guess now it's for us, that's all we have, right? Is is lifestyle friends. So bringing them in and just having um just holiday times or even birthdays around other family members is so nice because pretty much everybody is respectful. Yeah. It's a just a very respectful time and They're well aware. Like all you gotta do is tell your vanilla friends, Hey, my mom's gonna be there or Yeah, my kids are gonna be there. And it's like they're talking about like you said, they're not talking about actions with their family or things like that. They're just having a good time because So do you remember do you remember when we got invited to go to swinger parties back in our hometown?
6:15 Mm-hmm. And there was this one couple that used to throw parties. Yes. And their mom lived in their backyard in an R V. Yeah. Well we would get there early and then they'd be I'm gonna go put mom in the R V real quick and I'd be like, What? And their mom knew Yeah this is their lifestyle and this is what they did. I did. Yeah, I remember feeling weirded out about that. It's like we're all in this house, this main house. She knows what's going on. She's in that R V over there. And know, it's like, I don't know, it just always weirded me out. Yeah. And now where we're at in the community. I don't think that would weird me out anymore.
6:55 It's just kind of like, well, you know, this is it's not always about sex. And I think that's where the the newbies have those thoughts is for sure. Sex, sex, sex, sex, sex. And it's like, it no, it's not all about sex. We have we've hung out with other people who are in the lifestyle and never even once talked about sex. Um, we have made some really incredible friendships uh where sex rarely comes up. Yeah. Um and and so I guess that's where people are misguided in their way of thinking. I think so. When they go, man, you guys are getting your families together. Well yeah, we're not having an orgy in front of them.
7:35 Like that's not how this works. And it's it's it's a community like Noelle. Yeah. So it's like when it's a celebration like for instance we're coming up to like all these holidays, right? When it's a celebration like that, you want to have people that you really like and enjoy to be around. Yeah. Around. Right. You know? Um If we could, we would fill this house up at Thanksgiving. We would fill this house up at Christmas. Like that's just the way we are. And to have that, because we like to be around people that we enjoy being around. Yeah. And lifestylers, we're fun. Like we're fun, even if you put us in a vanilla setting. Right. Like we're all about let's have a good time, let's have a good conversation.
8:16 And it's it it's it becomes a really, I don't know, open, open and fun. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. you want to have that joyful time and especially like right now, right? It's you know, the holidays are coming up. I wanna be all around fun people and and drink my you know, eat my tamales and drink my coffee and just gossip and f you know because they're your friends and we like to gossip. Some pumpkin pie and some cheese myths. There's lot of cheese. Yeah. I mean, it's fun, right? I mean it really is fun. And I feel like right now is even the more time because it's the holidays coming up. Yeah. Well, you so and that's where things changed for me in the lifestyle.
8:59 Because in the early years, I was chasing experiences. Right. You find somebody that you find attractive and it's like, I want to sleep with that person. And then that's your that's your zone in. Like that's what you're trying to get. Um, and then I realized that that's not what it's all about. Did you feel like when you were doing that you wanted them around all the time? Yeah. Mm. Okay, that makes sense. Yeah. And yeah. After a while I realized, you know what, it's the the friendship that means more to me than the sex. For sure. And even then the sex is better because we're friends. Right. Because I like and you could be honest. Yeah. Like you should be honest with everybody, but it's you make it you're a little bit more vulnerable when you have already experienced with these people and then Yeah. And you know, I was always worried in the beginning when we started having swinger friends, I was always worried about how they would act in front of non swinger people like family and other friends.
9:59 Um most of our vanilla friends, if we have any, know what we do by now. Um, but early on, you know, it just it felt awkward. And I always felt like we had to be ashamed. Yeah. For a long time. I felt like a little bit of shame. Yeah. Well, even like when we would see friends like at the store and stuff, we would just be like, Hi, and just walk on by. You know? Um, I've s we've seen many of friends at stores and different places and just been like, hi. But now that we're older, we know that these kind of conversations are not gonna come up when they are around other pe like other regular people. they know how to act. They know how to act.
10:40 You know, it's it's gotta be tough to be around another person's family and there's a sexual tension and you really wanna fool around. I can only imagine that's gotta be difficult. You gotta keep things on an even keel. You gotta keep it quiet. Um but every now and then you sneak a little a little nudge or something or whatever, you know, but you wanna make sure that nobody sees anything. And it it's fun in a way, 'cause it probably feels like, it's risky but it's not at the same time. And you know what I was thinking, we've gone to places, we've gone to parties that f our friends have had that have been with with kids there.
11:22 Yeah. Like and it has been Very cool. And all the adults there were lifestylers. Yeah. Like it was I was just thinking about that. I like, wow, we really have. We've been to a few. Yeah, you know, but I also think that a lot of the people that we hang with tend to be a little less on the discreet side. Um and a little bit more on the open side. Yeah. Um, and I'm sure that it's difficult even more for people who are really discreet. But people who are really discreet tend to not be really, really involved in the community. Correct. Because there's a lot of meet and greets and vanilla locations and things like that. And they're really discreet.
12:08 They probably want to stay away from stuff. Yeah, like they'll only go to like the club. Yeah, or a house party that they know that they invite only. you know, that can be pretty nerve wracking. we were just talking about the kids that were at these parties. We've all like we've been to parties where we were the only lifestylers. Like these people only played with us and ever Everybody around was vanilla. Yeah. But you know, we we are very truly very respectful even when we go out with lifestylers as regular dinner parties. Like we are not um we we talk about it ahead of time, like like how's this gonna work? Like Yeah, yeah. 'Cause you know, I don't I don't wanna push any lines or anything like that.
12:52 But also if it's open to whatever, then you know, well that's all you gotta tell me. But That's all you gotta tell him. That's all you gotta say. But really like I would assume 100% that this is like a vanilla type of meetup if it's in a vanilla system. Unless you're otherwise told. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's that's nice. Not everybody thinks like that though. communication guys, like no matter what. Yeah. So it it is a fun time. I'm I'm really looking forward to spending some time with with some friends and seeing, you know, how how they They spend the holidays and you know? Hold on, hold on. We need to tell you guys about Three Fun first. yeah.
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14:15 Yeah. Um and they don't really go out very much because there's a lot of family at the house. And so there tends to be a bit of a slowdown during the holidays. But there are are a lot of people in the community who don't have that problem. Yeah. They're empty nesters. Yeah. They don't have family coming around. And they usually jealous. Yeah. They're usually the ones who are going, is anybody doing anything tonight? Anyone heading down anywhere? Um and so I th I think it's so incredible about our community. There's always something there's always something and always something going on. You know, I wanna do throw this in because you were saying about the community. I wanna tell you there are people out there that don't have anybody for the holidays. So if you if you are inclined, invite a friend, you know, um enjoy yourself.
15:06 Fun. Have fun. Yeah. Yeah, you only have so many holidays to go around anyways. You'll be and you know, a lot of us work a lot, and then all of a sudden you have some time off for the holidays. What are you gonna do? Yeah. Well, there's some things you can do. You can go hang out. Doesn't always have to be sexual. And no, it doesn't have to be, but it certainly can be. You can you can get a little Christmas squirt going on. That's always fun. That's a good thing. That's right. your Christmas goose early. That's right. you know, one thing we've always talked about doing events at uh the holidays. One thing especially is the New Year's Eve thing.
15:47 Yes. We've always wanted to go out and do like an all inclusive lifestyle. Yeah, we've always wanted to go like New Year's Eve thing. Yeah, like go out to like a hotel that has a banquet little thing. Yeah. Where we can dance, enjoy some music, enjoy some friends, and then that's it. Go. Enjoy New Year's and then be gone. We've always wanted that. We haven't I know there's places there are some you know, there's vanilla places. Somebody reached out not too long ago and had mentioned something. Uh there's some event that happens on New Year's Eve. I'm gonna have to look at that. You know, if there's anybody listening who knows of big New Year's Eve lifestyle events that are usually every year. Yes. Uh shoot us a message or get in hold of us, send us an email, whatever, because we would love to look into that and maybe scope it out for the following year, you That would be so much fun.
16:36 That would be fun. Uh you know, holidays are a good time if you have people to enjoy them with. And one thing that we have to consider is i i you know, most of us just automatically assume that everybody's got families. Mm-hmm. Everybody automatically assumes that nobody's lonely. Let me tell you, more people are lonely during the holidays than they are the rest of the year because we have spent years Feeling this Christmas magic and we have to share it with everybody and we have to sing little songs and eat little gingerbread cookies and drink our eggnog. I like that. Yeah. That's it's it's it's all bullshit.
17:18 I like that. It's all bullshit. Don't be a grin. Not being a grin. I'm gonna go in a little bit and go and buy some gingerbread houses and all that good stuff and bake until my little heart is content. You know, I I I I love the uh the holidays, uh but As our kids have gotten older and we've had more time to stray away, it's I don't know, it's difficult to stray away sometimes. Like it has been a little difficult to stray away. But there's a homey feeling. It's like, Oh, it's cold outside. We hardly ever get cold in Texas. It's cold outside. Let's stay in. Let's enjoy this cuddly weather, you know. And you know, we hopefully we're gonna be going out this holiday season.
18:03 Hopefully. Yeah, that'd be nice. Yeah. Hopefully. We'll see. We'll see. We'll go do some stuff. Uh so I want I want to take a second here, 'cause I think this'll be fun. If you and I were to throw a holiday lifestyle party. Let's imagine this right now, okay? Let's imagine this out. How would we do it? What what for one thing, would you rent a space or rent an Airbnb? I'd probably rent an Airbnb. Rent an Airbnb if we were gonna throw Like a big party for uh yeah, and I wouldn't have a big, big one. Yeah. Like minimum ten couples.
18:45 Yeah. That's enough. Yeah. Okay. So we're planning our imaginary uh Christmas event here. Okay. Okay. Okay. So we've we've already got it down to We're gonna rent an Airbnb. Okay. All right. Maybe a few rooms that we're gonna make as playrooms. Yeah. Uh have the main portion of the living room and dining room area be like a dance floor and a DJ kind of situation. Yeah. do you tell everybody to bring some food? Yes. Yeah. I wanna eat. Yeah, that's like one of the things I think when it comes to house parties and stuff like that. Yeah, but like this we we could have like a small little dinner and and and enjoy some drinks and whatever.
19:25 Or appetizers. Okay. Okay. So we're having appetizers. In situations like that, say for something like that, we wouldn't invite everybody. We would invite certain people of which are in our circle, people that we know, people that we want to talk to, that sort of thing. And how does it go? Like so this is the part that all that when it comes to creating events. This is the part that I overthink a lot. Is is the inner workings of it all. Everybody starts showing up, and in your mind, everybody's gonna have dinner. So everybody starts talking and this and that. Everybody sits down. Eventually we're all sitting down, eating, having a great conversation.
20:07 But this is also It's a play party. Yeah. So if everybody's sitting at the table and they're getting That's why we could be like just have appetizers there and some like, you know, fruit and whatever. Yeah. The way we did like for your birthday party. And every party that we've gone to. Yeah. You know, a little charcuterie board. All that good stuff. Everybody brings something. Yeah. And then when you're Like finger foods? Finger food finger foods. I'll be your finger food. You are my finger food. Yeah. You know, like just just a little little nosh. You'll have a little nosh. Yeah. Yeah. Before you know. Before you nosh. You know where you not. Yeah. Now here's the question because we were talking about this the other day and it if you're throwing the event, do you do uh icebreakers?
20:58 Yes. Really? No. I'm not an icebreaker person. I thought you were. I mean I like to have at like school. I don't wanna have 'cause I don't know anybody there. No. Exactly. You don't know anybody though. I I'm gonna know these people. that's true. You are Yeah, no, no, and I don't have games. I'm not really a game person. You're not a game person. No, I just really wanna just be like, you know, talk, chit chat, and then be like, Okay guys, lights are going boom boom boom a little bit of groovy music. Bone chicka bum boom. You know, I you know what I always wanted to do? I always wanted to have a Christmas key party. See, because the the logistics of the key party is if you're attending the party, you're basically consenting to play with whoever's there.
21:45 Yes. And that has to be s spoken ahead of time. And you know how it's supposed to go? How? I this is the way I think it should go. Everybody brings their own key and lock. Like they they come into this house with a key and a lock, right? And then those keys and the lock go in a bag like in a uh a bowl. Right? Okay. And you give them out. The hostess will give them out. But I already know which one you and Pris came with. I already know which one they came with. So I'm not gonna give the lock and key to them. I'm gonna pass it out and pass out the keys to everybody and that's how it's lock and key. Well, so yeah, that's a that's a lock and key party.
22:28 Yeah. Uh the old key parties they used to just put their car keys in a bowl. Like the guys would put the car keys in the bowl and the women would go and and grab keys and that be the person that they would sleep with. Which is kinda hot. Yeah. As long as consent is there. So bad, you know? Like you get to have all the fun and me I just have to sit here on a chair like a fucking elf on a shelf. Adam on the stoop. Um I've always liked key parties were hot. I like I think the the idea is hot. The idea is hot. You don't have to think about it. I don't know if people actually do key parties.
23:10 We should. Well, because you have to find people who are down for whoever. Yeah. Not necessarily for whoever, but how else are you gonna know? Like so really it has to be like everybody has to know everybody. Everybody's on an invite list or a telegram chat. It'd be nice if everybody's already played. Ideally, but if you have that tangled web that you weave, chances are you've probably already had like an orgy with all of these people. Yeah. Which is what we've done. uh Yes. Yeah. I mean we tend to have parties and then our friends show up to the parties and then we have sex with all of them. That's what we're there for. Well, it's fun to have sex with your friends.
23:52 I mean So if you're throwing a holiday party or having any kind of holiday get together, invite your friends. It's that time of of season where like Adam said, there's lonely people and you know, if you're gonna be around vanilla people, just tell them that. If you're not, tell them that also. Yeah, and you know, if you're gonna throw a party with swingers you know, this is just my personal opinion. Either have all swingers or all vanilla people. Yeah. but don't commingle Because it's hard. It is. It's well, unless they unless your vanilla friends already know your life.
24:34 Yeah. But even then it's hard because like you don't know who you can flirt with and who you can't flirt with. That's true. Like we got invited to a party and our friends were like, Well, our friends know, but they're vanilla and it's like, Well, your friends are attractive. Are you are they vanilla? Or are 'cause I'm getting vibes that they're not. You know what I mean? Like my God. Like if they know about you guys, like I mean It's it's a valid question. You know what I mean? Because some people claim that they are monogamous and then there it's like a little bit of booze and they're going, Oh, happy holidays, let's have a threesome, you know? It's like th there's everybody gets loosey goosey, everybody wants to have a good time.
25:17 Yeah. And what does that mean in the moment after drinking? It means let's have some sexual fun, right? Uh but that's pretty much how we live our life all the time. That's how we do. Yeah. Yeah. it's fun to do this sort of thing. I think it's difficult. Because people are with their families. And I think a lot of people, a lot of pushy people who maybe don't have a lot of families and they wanna get experiences and they wanna m set up dates and let's do this, let's do that, you gotta be understanding. You gotta be understanding that people have families. People are entertaining other plans. Family members. I mean, there's a lot of traveling sometimes, so yeah. It it is busy time of year.
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26:42 Okay, now back to what we were saying. Yes. Thanksgiving, mind you. Yes. The actual day will mark two years that we've had this podcast. Oh nice. Yeah, two years on Thanksgiving. Wow. So we have to do a special show. We will. Celebrating our two year anniversary podcasting and talking about sex. You know what what? It's I I'm not gonna lie. It's a lot of fun talking about sex. Somebody asked me, they said, Is it like working at a pizzeria when you love pizza? Do you get tired of it? Um No.
27:23 No. Very different. I enjoy talking about it. I enjoy talking. I enjoy talking about it. I also enjoy doing it. Yes. And I enjoy my friends who love uh living our living their lives through us by listening to our stories and things like that. I don't know, it's kinda fun. It's a form of exhibitionism, I think. Yeah, it is nice. It is nice. It's it's it has been two years and it's amazing. Our anniversary's coming up too. Our anniversary is coming up. Is that fifteen years? Yeah. Fifteen years. Let me ask you something. This is something that I have always been curious about because I have seen couples in this lifestyle and they'll be like, I'm we're celebrating our anniversary.
28:08 Like us, for example. We celebrate our anniversary, we go out to dinner, we we have a nice little date night, maybe we'll go see a movie or whatever. Mm-hmm. You know? Um rarely. Actually no, we have never played on our anniversary. Our anniversaries are normally about us. Yeah, probab yeah. It's o they always have been. Yeah. So our anniversaries are always about us. so the thought of entertaining somebody else on our anniversary has never come up for us in conversation. Yeah. The thought has come up before. No no no no no. I'm driving the car in a in a d in a direction.
28:50 Just just sit and look pretty. Okay. So anyhow. That is something that I have always noticed about us is that we have never done that on our anniversary. Uh, from the early years on, and then when we were poly, even then it was like, no, our anniversary is for us. Nobody is involved in that. This is our day, this is our night, one hundred percent. Now I have seen couples say, It's our anniversary and we want somebody to come over and play. What do you feel about that? Um I mean granted everybody's arrangements are different, but I'm talking about us right now.
29:31 I don't mind. Really? Mm-hmm. So you would play with somebody on our anniversary? Yeah. Really? You used to have a problem with that. Yeah. N I think I used to have problem with that. No. I mean I know how much you love me. And you celebrate me and our marriage all the time. All the time. If I felt like that was like the only day I was gonna get celebrated, then of course I'd wanna keep it for myself, but no. Yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't mind. Kinda fun. Yeah. Hmm. Interesting. Interesting. Well, we have an anniversary coming out. We have an anniversary coming out, guys. So that's gonna start a different conversation. Yeah. you know, there is one other thing that I was wondering.
30:14 Because I got a buddy who's in the lifestyle and he dresses like Santa Claus every Christmas. Okay. I think he gets hired for parties doing Santa Claus. Smart man. And he and his wife do porn. Yes. And she dresses as Miss Santa. As Mrs. Santa. And he dresses as Santa. Mm-hmm. And apparently there's a whole big kink genre kink for it. Yeah. For that. There is. What what do you think about that? I've I've never talked to you about that. What are you talking about? I think that's kinda cool. Do you find Santa Claus's no attractive like sexy in that way?
30:54 No, I don't. Like you remember that that movie with Billy Bob Thornton, Santa Santa fucking Santa's No Because there are people out there who have a thing. Like Star Wars and it's chewy, I'd like, Okay, chewy. So like even the thought of like a Santa Claus roleplay doesn't do it for you. I could be a naughty elf. A naughty elf? Really? You know the pointy airs wouldn't work for me. Yeah, I remember when I dressed up as an elf and you dress up as Santa. Oh something. That's right. Yeah, no, I'd be a naughty elf. I could do that. I always wonder about that. There are people out there who find that pretty fucking kinky. Like they they're like, dude, I would totally fuck Santa. I care what's happening. I mean cool. I need to get a suit. uh I need to get a suit.
31:37 Yeah, I think we got you one. Yeah, I don't fit in that thing anymore. I've grown. I've grown in width. I guess you could call me Gerthy, but we're not talking about my member. Talking about my stomach. And of course, after the holidays, I'm gonna be even girthier. I am enjoying the thought of all the different things that we're going to be cooking. I know. We're gonna be making a lot. Um we are Thanksgiving is the first holiday. And so we'll be making all the goodies for that. Um, and then Christmas and w in between that somewhere we're gonna be making tamales. Yeah, we definitely have to clear off a weekend to make some tamales and do that uh handmade. Handmade 'cause that's how we do it, baby. That's so good. We want some tamales.
32:26 I think I'm gonna go get some a little bit. You think so? Yeah. Some tamales? Yeah. man, you better bring me some. I mean, I don't know about you guys, but I love H E B tamales. was raised my mom made tamales, my grandmother made tamales, we sold tamales. Um, so I am used to some good tamales. But let me tell you, H E B Mitiandita, mm, they got good tamales. Yeah, yeah, that's true. That was some abuelita. We do love our H E B grocery stores and we have to say they're telling I can eat a dozen. I don't like sharing those. Gosh, man, it's crazy 'cause they sell Dozens for twenty dollars. Twenty dollars.
33:06 My mom used to sell them for three fifty. That's crazy. I remember buying them when I had my first job, I was buying them for five bucks a dozen. She so when she she went up to five, she was like, I can't go up to five. And I'm like, Mom, you've got to. Yeah. And then after that, I would sell them. I would sell them for thirteen dollars a dozen here in Austin. She'd bring them from Corpus to Austin to me. Yeah. Big O eyes just. Man, that is nuts. they've gotten expensive? That's why it's great that we do them uh at home. Yes. but anyhow, I think that it's gonna be a fun holiday season. You're gonna be hearing a lot from us uh during the holiday season. you may have m seen that we did not do a quickie last week.
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