No Clinic, No Shame, No Excuses: At-Home STI Testing with Dr. Andy Kogelnik of ProDX Health

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All right, y'all.

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Before we dive in, a quick heads-up

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This show is raw, real, and
definitely not rated PG.

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We're talking about adult themes, sexual
content, and the kind of stuff you

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probably don't want blasting through your
speakers at work or around your kids.

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So grab some headphones, pour your
drink of choice, and get comfy.

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Oh, and just so we're clear,
we are not licensed therapists,

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counselors, or sex couches.

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Sex coaches.

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Sex coaches.

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Not sex couches.

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We're just a couple of people sharing
our lives, experiences, and sexy

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adventures in ethical non-monogamy.

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So with that, pull up a
chair and enjoy the show.

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Hello, and welcome to another
episode of Beyond Monogamy.

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I'm Adam.

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And I'm Pris, and I am so
excited to have today's guest.

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Yeah, she has been excited.

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She came to me last night
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we recording tomorrow?" I'm

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Yeah.

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Because this one matters to me personally.

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This is the conversation that
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Okay?

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So with that, uh, our guest today is
an MD from Emory, PhD in bioengineering

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from Georgia Tech, trained at Stanford
in infectious diseases, founded the

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Open Medicine Institute, tackling
some of the most dismissed chronic

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illnesses out there, long COVID and
fibromyalgia, just to name a couple,

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and brought real precision medicine to
patients- that the system kept ignoring.

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And now he's built something that
I think is gonna become a staple

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in this lifestyle community.

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Mm-hmm.

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He's the founder of ProDX Health at
home STI and hormone testing that is

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CLIA certified, doctor reviewed, results
in 24 to 48 hours, no appointment, no

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waiting rooms, and this is the big one,
it's the first home collection STI kit

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to ever receive PASS certification.

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For anybody who's watched as much porn
as I have- ... that's the same standard

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that the adult industry runs on.

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Really?

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So that's pretty impressive.

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Wow.

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So with that- Yeah ... please welcome
Dr. Andy Kogelnick to the show.

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Hi, doctor.

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Welcome.

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Hey, doc.

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Thank you.

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Good to be here.

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Welcome.

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I'm super excited to have you here.

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Um- Thank

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you.

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Thank you

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...
I found you on Instagram, and it was
super interesting because I think I

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actually saw someone use your test,
and I was like, "This is not real.

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This can't be real.

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Is it real?" I did some digging- It's
real ... and I rem- I remember sending it

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to Adam, and then Susan mentioned you, and
I was like, "Yes, I know who they are."

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You know, uh, I truth be told,
I hadn't heard except for when

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she had mentioned it to me.

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Uh-huh.

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And then when Susan brought it up,
that's immediately, in the show

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as a matter of fact, she turns to
me and she goes, "Yeah, that's...

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I saw that." Yeah. And I was going,
"Okay." So as we talked about it

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more, and Susan said, "You gotta
talk to Dr. Andy. He's the best."

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And so we started doing more
research on it, and man, I gotta

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tell you, my eyes are open.

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Yeah.

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Now, I know I sa- I discussed a little
bit of it in the intro, but can you break

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down to us, y- so you basically have...

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It's a, it's a mail-in
kit essentially, yeah?

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Exactly, yeah.

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We spent a lot of time, uh, a lot of
it during COVID when we were going

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nuts trying to get that stuff done,
thinking about how to, one, deliver

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tests at home, 'cause for obvious
reasons during COVID, but that also

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got everybody else thinking about it.

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And part of the ability to get there
was thinking about the technology

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we were using and how that could be
applied back into STIs, and shrinking

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everything down into one little box and
getting people to be able to handle,

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you know, doing their own sampling
at home, and including the blood.

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And the blood was a big step, and
we have some great partners there

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who've given us some FDA-approved
shoulder patch devices that collect

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your blood in about five minutes.

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That was a big step forward.

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We started off with
lancets, and that was ugly.

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But the biggest part of the story was
really shrinking everything down so

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it fits in a box and s- you don't have
to have five vials of blood drawn.

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You don't have to ha- you know- Go
screaming across town, uh, to the doctor's

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office, that you can do it all from
home in your slippers and, you know,

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drop it, drop it in the mail basically
back to us and get, you know, get a

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reasonably quick turnaround on it, uh,
without having to go through the stigma.

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I, I always say we, we're trying
to take ST- uh, the stigma out

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of it, or STI out of the stigma.

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Which way I went?

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like the... Yeah, I
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put it in there, that's for sure.

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Y- y- yeah.

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Well, yeah.

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I mean, in our community, um, it's...
Testing is very big, and it should be

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in anybody who's sexually active, right?

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But in our community, they
are very sexually active.

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And it is, uh, it's...
Sometimes it's a hassle.

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You know?

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You have to make an appointment,
or you have to make sure the

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clinic is available, and-

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Yeah

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...
you have to make time.

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I am a busy person.

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I work out of my home, not in my home, but
I work away from my home, 45 minutes away.

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I don't have time.

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I work Monday through Friday,
and then we have businesses.

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It's really hard for us to make it out.

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We do it, but it's really difficult.

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It's either at lunch, you know?

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So, the fact-

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Her issue is the time.

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My issue- The time ... is anxiety.

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I can't stand going to
doctor's offices, Doc.

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Yeah.

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Uh, it's not for me.

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Oh, I believe it.

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Uh, and so especially, uh, since you have
y- we have to test regularly because of

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the you know, the community that we're in.

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Mm-hmm.

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That anxiety of constantly going in
and just h- and just feeling that.

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Uh, not only that, but people
really in our community have

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trouble talking about testing.

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Oh, very much.

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Um, which is so f- so strange
because we're in this community

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and we're all pretty much regularly
having- Mm-hmm ... sex with, uh, our

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partners- Mm-hmm ... if not others.

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Uh, you would think that there wouldn't
be a, a negative stigma attached.

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So this is really why we
wanted to have you on here.

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We wanna remove that negative stigma.

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Now, I, I am curious, though.

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As I was doing my little research,
I noticed, uh, that you really, uh,

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you're, you're really in the adult
entertainment and, uh, industry as well

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as, uh, the non-monogamous industry.

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Is that right?

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Like, that's really where
your forefacing, uh, is.

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We're kind of all over
the place, but yeah.

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We absolutely have a huge footprint on
the adult side and the sex positive side

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in general, and that's, that is part of
what we're trying to enable here, right?

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It's a conversation about doing what
you wanna do and doing, you know,

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your thing, but doing it safely.

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Uh, you know- Yeah ... all, all of the
diseases that we test for in all of

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our kits, you know- couple years ago
were at 25-year highs and, and most

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of them have only plateaued from there
and not gone down yet, which is crazy

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and scary that we're not having more
conversations about testing all the time.

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And the other, the other s- statistic
that I throw out there for people because

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it's... people don't think about it,
and, and literally they don't think

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about it, 42% of STIs are asymptomatic.

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So 42%- Wow ... of the cases out there,
people don't even have a symptom to

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go complain about to the doctor, and
that- that's part of the reason why

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they spread so easily is that people,
you don't know unless you've tested.

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And so people have this assumption that
they're, if they're feeling okay, they're,

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they're good, or it's not... You know,
we see all the reactions, believe me.

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I- we've seen them all at
all the conventions, at, on

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the street, in the clinic.

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"Oh yeah, I'm, I'm good, you know,
I... What..." You know, you don't

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know unless you've actually tested.

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And what is your, um... I know that
testing's important, but what do you

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te- Does your test do anything different
than going into an in-clinic place?

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Are you testing for something different?

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Are we missing something not
getting tested at a clinic?

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Well, and

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you know, and I actually had heard,
and I don't know, maybe you can

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confirm this, Doc, but I had heard
that most doctors, whenever you go see

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your primary care physician- Mm-hmm

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or whomever your doctor is, and you
tell them, "Hey, I'd like to test,"

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they give you a, a, I don't want to
say a dumbed-down test, but kind of

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a, a, a, a test that doesn't- A small
little panel ... yeah- Mm-hmm ... that

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doesn't really test for everything.

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Is that right?

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The... Probably is the short answer.

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... The answer is whether your doctor
or your provider were actually

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listening to your level of risk.

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Right?

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It's your level of risk that determines
what and how frequently you should test.

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And so for what we do on the adult
industry side, and probably for many

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of the swingers, but again, it depends
on what you're doing, but certainly for

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the adult industry side where they're
having shoots, you know, every two

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weeks with different partners and so
forth and, sometimes more frequently

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than that the level of risk is high,
and it's high across the board.

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So you wanna test for everything.

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And those standards were developed,
uh, o- over a decade ago for very

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good reasons on the public health
side and, and have been adopted by

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many outside the adult film industry.

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But, you know, we have nine different
STI kits, and they all essentially

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correspond to either a, a screening level
or a risk level depending on what you're

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doing, and, and you can kind of use
them and combine them any way you want.

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This one's our, our Pro13 which is
our bigge- kind of our biggest one.

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It's the one that we use
for the adult film industry.

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And it has literally everything,
but it doesn't, right?

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It doesn't have herpes
in there, for example.

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And but it does have, you know, hepatitis,
HIV chlamydia, gonorrhea, trich.

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And MGEN is one of those that
probably your doctor is not gonna

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order, but it's been a, a, a disease
that's been on the rise for about

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five, six, five to 10 years now.

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Um-

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I just heard that one.

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I think Susan told us.

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Well, Susan- Yeah ... had mentioned MGEN.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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And so a lot of people
don't even know about it.

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Some of the physicians don't
even know about it and to even

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think to test for it regularly.

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So again, if, if you're in a higher risk,
group of, for any reason, you just, you

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should be testing more, and you should
be testing more comprehensively, and

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you should be asking your providers
for those comprehensive tests if

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they're not giving them to you.

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You know, you don't, you don't
have to get them from us certainly.

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Um, everything that we test for is
available somewhere, but the question

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is how do you, how do you access that?

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And part of our mission was to
just lower the barrier to testing,

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like lower the barrier to entry.

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We've, you know, we've done a lot to make
our tests, you know, better, faster, and

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cheaper, and more convenient certainly
by doing it at home and removing the

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stigma, which you've already mentioned.

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We also do some stuff with public
health agencies and so forth to, to

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provide free testing in some venues.

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Any way we can kinda get in there and
deliver a test it's a win because,

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literally everybody should be tested.

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Mm-hmm.

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Um, unless you are truly, truly, truly,
celibate or 1,000% monogamous and you

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know that your partner is as well.

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And that's, that's the other side of
that coin, you know, that, you know,

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that's a whole nother, uh, rabbit hole
to go down, uh, of- ... of, you know,

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what, what else is going on there.

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So you don't know until you test.

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Doc, I got like four different questions,
but I'm gonna start at the top.

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Whoa.

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For our listeners MGEN
is Mycoplasma genitalium.

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A lot of us don't know what this is.

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I have no idea what that

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is.

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Can you tell us what you know about MGEN?

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Yeah.

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It's, I mean, it's, it's a bacteria.

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It's a kind of a, a, a little bit more of
a fastidious, slow-growing bacteria, so

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it can be pretty stubborn to get rid of.

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Mm-hmm.

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Um, which has been one of the
challenges, uh, in the community.

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You know, s- the standard treatment is two
weeks of antibiotics, unlike chlamydia or

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gonorrhea, which sometimes you can treat
with a single dose of, of an antibiotic.

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And, and even at two weeks,
sometimes you have to treat

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it again for yet another week.

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So it's kind of a super sticky bug.

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It's not super common, but
there, there are breakouts, and

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there have been breakouts, in
various corners of the community.

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And so when we, when we identify
one of those, obviously we like to

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shut it down as quickly as possible.

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So notifying your partner to get
tested and so forth, that becomes

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super important, especially for this
bug where it's, it can kinda sit there

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and, and be stubborn to get rid of.

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And, you know, if, if you don't treat
it all the way, you know, you may have

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even picked it up, but then you're
passing it on after all, uh, because

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it didn't get treated completely.

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Right

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on.

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Okay.

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So it's,

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it's definitely the newcomer
in the, on the block.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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We've only, we've only
recently, uh, heard of this.

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Mm-hmm.

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So that was, that was one.

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The other thing was and when I was
researching this, uh, uh, about your

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tests, it, there was a, a, a part
about throat and rectal testing.

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Uh, now it, it, this is, uh, obviously
big for our, our, uh, listening

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audience because oral and anal play
are extremely common in this lifestyle.

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I didn't even think about that.

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I knew throat, but I
didn't think about rectal-

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Yeah

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...
at all.

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Yeah.

315
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Yeah.

316
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Okay.

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So, uh, so this is a part of your test.

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If, if you wouldn't mind
breaking that down for us.

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Wow.

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Yeah,

321
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sure.

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Uh, well, the asymptomatic rates I think
are a little bit higher in, uh, in rectal,

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uh, as, as well, so that's another one
where you don't know until you test.

324
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But yeah, we have several kits now
that actually have multiple site swabs.

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Um- Mm ... the basic kits do o-
uh, genital or urine and blood.

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Um- Mm-hmm ... and then the more
comprehensive kits will have a swab

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that you do an oral swab with, a
swab that you do a rectal swab with.

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And y- sure, we h- it happens all
the time where we pick up somebody

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who's got oral gonorrhea, for
example, or, or, uh, rectal chlamydia.

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And, um, everything else tests
negative and that, like I said,

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that happens all the time.

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But again, it's like the partner needs to
be treated, or partners, and, you know,

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you, you've gotta kind of get after those.

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So y- you know, the, those kits with
the multiple swabs let you get that

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information and know that, that you're
being safe in those regions as well as

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blood or you know, the genital area.

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Yeah.

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I didn't even... That
didn't even cross my mind.

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Yeah.

340
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Yeah.

341
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You know, most of the people that
I know that, that test, it's,

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it's usually by urine and blood.

343
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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And, and- That's usually

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normal, right?

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I mean- ... people are, you

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know, people, some people are
squeamish about the rectal swab.

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Uh, but it's really not that bad.

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It's

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a teeny little,

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teeny

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little swab.

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Little tiny

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little thing.

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And you, you don't have to go in very far.

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It's not like you're doing a
colonoscopy or anything like that.

359
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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Um,

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Well, a- and, and so, uh, one of the other
questions that I had was as far as...

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'Cause you s- you had mentioned, uh,
you have how many different tests?

364
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We have, I think, nine STI tests now
and- Nine STI- ... 11 different hormone

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panels, and we're moving into some
other general health stuff as well.

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Um, so with all of those tests,
it- is there, uh, I guess there's

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not one that h- that handles, like,
everything or, like, an all-in-one or-

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Do you have different kits?

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Do you have

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different kits, right?

371
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Yeah.

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Okay.

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So the, the kits, they,
they look pretty similar.

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They're slightly different sized boxes.

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But the Pro13 adheres to the standard
that was set out for the adult

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industry, so it's pretty much got
everything, like I said, except

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for the, the two herpes and HPV.

378
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People forget about HPV all the
time too, but that's an STD as well.

379
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Oh, yeah.

380
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We've got a kit for that.

381
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Um, we've got a kit for the boys
for STD too, so not just the ladies.

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So the second closest one, uh,
is o- one that we came out with

383
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early on called the Full10.

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So the numbers refer to how many
things we're testing on that panel.

385
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Okay.

386
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Um, and the Full10 covers the two
herpes viruses and a whole bunch of

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other things, but of course there's
only so much blood we can draw, so we

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had to leave off a couple of things,
and that is a limitation on what we do.

389
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But you can always combine
tests to get there too.

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So you could do, like, a Pro13 and
our Focus2, which is our herpes test.

391
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Uh, you could order two kits, and you
get two ways to s- to sample essentially.

392
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Okay.

393
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Um, and, uh, we get the samples in the lab
that we need to give you those answers.

394
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So that- that's another
way to go around this.

395
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Part of that is because we're not
sticking a big needle in your vein,

396
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and we're not drawing out five tubes
of blood, so we can't just endlessly

397
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test until, uh, that's exhausted.

398
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We actually have a tiny
little tube of blood.

399
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You know, I'll, I'll
pull one out of the kit.

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It's only about a microliter.

401
00:17:33,266 --> 00:17:33,956
Oh, wow

402
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...
yeah, so it's this tiny little tube.

403
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This is it right here.

404
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And- Oh ... it is, you know,
it's a- about two and a half

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centimeters, three centimeters long.

406
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Um- Okay ... and we only fill that up for
the Pro13, we only fill it up halfway.

407
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For some of the hormone tests, you,
you fill a, a red-topped tube up all

408
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the way, but, uh, it, it really is
not very much blood, and that's, when

409
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I mentioned before, get- fitting it
all inside the box, it was literally

410
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how do we make these tests smaller
and smaller so we need less volume

411
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so we can let people sample at home?

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And that was, that's part of the magic
of what we're doing rather than sending

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you to a clinic and having to have
some- specialist there to phlebotomize

414
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you or a nurse or what have you.

415
00:18:17,031 --> 00:18:17,251
Yes.

416
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Um, you know, you can do it at home.

417
00:18:18,921 --> 00:18:22,091
And people get nervous about
that, and we, we get a lot of

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people really anxious about it.

419
00:18:24,001 --> 00:18:27,491
And then once they've done it, universally
the comment is, "Oh, that was so easy."

420
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You know, "Oh, that's all it was?

421
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I didn't feel a thing." You
know, that, that kind of stuff.

422
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So it's, it's actually been fun
to watch for a change, uh, sort of

423
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a positive reaction on, you know,
a, a, a healthcare intervention.

424
00:18:40,451 --> 00:18:40,511
Yeah

425
00:18:40,721 --> 00:18:43,331
it's super easy and people
don't need to be afraid of it.

426
00:18:43,631 --> 00:18:46,421
We've got some videos and stuff
online that you can watch.

427
00:18:46,791 --> 00:18:50,651
But it really is, is super simple
a- and it's intended to be that

428
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way, and we're actually working on
some things to make it even simpler.

429
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Oh, wow.

430
00:18:54,981 --> 00:18:57,641
Now, y- Adam had mentioned
something in your intro.

431
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What is PASS certification?

432
00:19:01,141 --> 00:19:04,041
I know that you had mentioned that, and
I know that's a big thing, and I've seen

433
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it before on, like, other platforms.

434
00:19:05,971 --> 00:19:06,661
What is that?

435
00:19:07,101 --> 00:19:07,261
Yeah.

436
00:19:07,261 --> 00:19:07,441
Yeah.

437
00:19:07,441 --> 00:19:08,611
That's a really good question.

438
00:19:09,561 --> 00:19:13,851
PASS is, is mainly relevant
to the adult film industry.

439
00:19:13,851 --> 00:19:16,981
So PASS is- Okay ... a
nonprofit organization.

440
00:19:17,351 --> 00:19:23,051
It's pass-certified.org, and they
have for the, at least the last 10

441
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plus years created and maintained
the standards and maintained the

442
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studios agreeing to those standards
for testing and for laboratories.

443
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So they certify, I think there's about
six of us now, uh, six different labs

444
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that are certified to do the PASS panel.

445
00:19:40,171 --> 00:19:46,451
And part of the reason that's there i-
is, one, to set the pace of what should

446
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be done and how often it should be
done and sort of the rules around that,

447
00:19:50,071 --> 00:19:56,041
but two, to evaluate and standardize
the labs in terms of what we're doing,

448
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or at least make sure we're all at a
minimum standard, 'cause we certainly

449
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don't do everything exactly- Uh-huh

450
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the same way.

451
00:20:01,771 --> 00:20:06,241
Um- Right ... but that we
pass that minimum standard to

452
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ensure safety in the industry.

453
00:20:07,711 --> 00:20:11,511
And, and PASS regulates when there's
you know, when something happens that

454
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there's an industry shutdown among
other, uh, besides the testing, and

455
00:20:15,161 --> 00:20:18,721
says, sort of gives the all clear
for, okay, people can start to shoot

456
00:20:18,721 --> 00:20:22,301
again, and people start to test again,
and so forth, uh, for those shoots.

457
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So it's, it's an organization that's
just really amazing for the size

458
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of an organization it is to be able
to take on that responsibility of

459
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keeping a very large and growing
number of, of individuals safe.

460
00:20:35,661 --> 00:20:36,041
Wow.

461
00:20:36,141 --> 00:20:36,931
I, I'm curious.

462
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Would that, Would a, a test
from you guys essentially

463
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replace a clinic visit for PASS?

464
00:20:43,381 --> 00:20:43,911
Yeah.

465
00:20:43,911 --> 00:20:48,091
It's, it's n- it's not quite as easy as
it sounds, but it is still pretty easy.

466
00:20:48,091 --> 00:20:55,646
So we're the first lab to enable- anyone
who wants a PAS certification on their

467
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test to not have to go into a clinic.

468
00:20:58,456 --> 00:21:02,696
And to be able to do that, we- PAS
made us jump through a bunch of

469
00:21:02,696 --> 00:21:08,846
hoops, and then we actually heard
and had a big trust conversation with

470
00:21:08,846 --> 00:21:13,506
a lot of folks in the industry, and
raised the standard even further.

471
00:21:13,506 --> 00:21:18,586
So we actually are the only lab that
I'm aware of that has additional

472
00:21:19,006 --> 00:21:24,646
metrics literally that, uh, the
performers have to, have to achieve

473
00:21:24,646 --> 00:21:27,836
to get a PAS certified test from us.

474
00:21:28,216 --> 00:21:32,396
Um, so we have a whole process
the first time someone uh, f-

475
00:21:32,736 --> 00:21:33,876
this is for the adult performers.

476
00:21:33,876 --> 00:21:37,516
This, the, the- Mm-hmm ... lifestyle
people, it's a trust kind of basis.

477
00:21:37,556 --> 00:21:42,526
But for the adult performers, PAS wanted
us to observe the first blood collection,

478
00:21:42,886 --> 00:21:44,546
and so we did that with a televisit.

479
00:21:44,586 --> 00:21:46,716
So you sign up for a little
televisit, and we get on a

480
00:21:46,716 --> 00:21:48,056
little Zoom-like thing with you.

481
00:21:48,496 --> 00:21:50,696
And we help you through
that process 'cause it's not

482
00:21:51,406 --> 00:21:52,946
necessarily fully intuitive.

483
00:21:53,416 --> 00:21:56,646
But like I said, most people say,
"Oh, that was su- super easy."

484
00:21:56,986 --> 00:22:00,756
But then we also watch people do their
oral swab, and they have to seal that

485
00:22:01,206 --> 00:22:04,896
oral swab into a tamper-proof bag.

486
00:22:05,716 --> 00:22:08,906
And before they've done the televisit,
they've actually uploaded their government

487
00:22:08,906 --> 00:22:10,996
ID, and we do a document check on that.

488
00:22:11,226 --> 00:22:14,076
I don't know any clinic that
does a document check on- ... on,

489
00:22:14,076 --> 00:22:15,366
uh, people walking in the door.

490
00:22:15,366 --> 00:22:17,796
They're lucky if they ask you their
name and their, your date of birth.

491
00:22:18,176 --> 00:22:23,016
And then we do actually a facial
profile off that document to make

492
00:22:23,016 --> 00:22:26,156
sure it's, that's the person on the
televisit, so those have to match.

493
00:22:26,586 --> 00:22:29,996
Um- Oh, wow ... and then we're tying
that oral swab that we just took

494
00:22:30,906 --> 00:22:34,816
to tho- to that identification,
that authentication, and building

495
00:22:34,816 --> 00:22:36,556
a molecular profile of that person.

496
00:22:36,556 --> 00:22:39,346
So all their samples have to match,
and that's how we make sure there's

497
00:22:39,386 --> 00:22:41,286
no cheaters in the industry.

498
00:22:41,496 --> 00:22:44,766
So we would see that, oh, this
is your dog's urine or your

499
00:22:44,766 --> 00:22:46,176
neighbor's urine or what have you.

500
00:22:46,656 --> 00:22:51,636
Um, and fortunately we, we don't have
many of those incidents, but you know,

501
00:22:51,636 --> 00:22:54,906
obviously when we do, we don't allow that
person to test, and that's, they're called

502
00:22:54,906 --> 00:22:58,076
out in a certain way in the industry and
pretty much banned from the industry.

503
00:22:58,446 --> 00:23:01,596
But- Wow ... it's really a, a
really important part of what

504
00:23:01,626 --> 00:23:04,736
we're doing to build trust in the
industry, and I think it's relevant

505
00:23:05,196 --> 00:23:07,656
for, the poly community as well.

506
00:23:07,956 --> 00:23:12,126
You know, there's a lot of trust going
on, and I think that's amazing, but

507
00:23:13,056 --> 00:23:16,646
there's also a lot of, of loose ends
that are flapping out there- Mm-hmm.

508
00:23:16,646 --> 00:23:16,816
Mm-hmm ... in

509
00:23:17,116 --> 00:23:17,156
the

510
00:23:17,206 --> 00:23:19,656
breeze, and we, we're, we're
here to help tie some of those

511
00:23:19,656 --> 00:23:20,556
up with some of this stuff.

512
00:23:21,166 --> 00:23:25,006
So hope- hopefully we can continue
to have that conversation in all the

513
00:23:25,006 --> 00:23:26,946
different corners of, of the lifestyle.

514
00:23:27,766 --> 00:23:28,596
That is, that's-

515
00:23:29,026 --> 00:23:29,306
Yeah.

516
00:23:29,356 --> 00:23:32,136
That's, um- That is a lot ... you're
doing some incredible stuff there, doc.

517
00:23:32,266 --> 00:23:32,896
Uh, you know, I'm- A lot of

518
00:23:32,896 --> 00:23:33,656
science nerd stuff.

519
00:23:33,656 --> 00:23:35,566
I spent too much time in
school, as you pointed out.

520
00:23:36,066 --> 00:23:39,816
I'm kinda curious though, like, as,
as, because- you know, we in the

521
00:23:39,816 --> 00:23:41,766
lifestyle we are a private people.

522
00:23:41,996 --> 00:23:42,296
Yes.

523
00:23:42,296 --> 00:23:45,276
Uh, well, I mean, not us- I was
gonna ask ... not us personally.

524
00:23:45,356 --> 00:23:47,176
Yeah, not us, But, uh, but yeah,
there's a lot of people who are

525
00:23:47,176 --> 00:23:48,776
very discreet, uh- Absolutely

526
00:23:48,776 --> 00:23:49,696
about certain things.

527
00:23:50,166 --> 00:23:50,306
Yeah.

528
00:23:50,306 --> 00:23:57,926
Uh, now, as far as that's concerned how
does ProDX protect, you know, from, um,

529
00:23:58,516 --> 00:24:02,386
stuff showing up on a medical record
or- Yeah ... showing up on an insurance

530
00:24:02,386 --> 00:24:03,586
claim- Sure ... stuff like that?

531
00:24:03,886 --> 00:24:08,686
So we, we are starting to do some stuff
with insurance, but, but by and large,

532
00:24:08,686 --> 00:24:14,366
most of what we do is, is cash pay or
it's funded by an ins- an organization.

533
00:24:14,786 --> 00:24:19,206
Okay ... if you're not doing it for
past reasons like I just described,

534
00:24:20,126 --> 00:24:21,596
we don't have to know who you are.

535
00:24:22,166 --> 00:24:23,486
You can be- Mm-hmm ... fully anonymous.

536
00:24:23,486 --> 00:24:29,006
You can say, "I'm, Jimmy Dean,"
and we'll give you a result.

537
00:24:29,166 --> 00:24:33,896
Because, the moment where we can't do that
is when we have a positive, then there's

538
00:24:33,896 --> 00:24:35,206
a process that has to happen- Mm-hmm

539
00:24:35,206 --> 00:24:38,526
because a lot of these diseases
are reportable which is a, a

540
00:24:38,526 --> 00:24:40,486
legal requirement in this country.

541
00:24:40,566 --> 00:24:43,976
And well, it's really county-based,
uh, but, but most counties have

542
00:24:44,056 --> 00:24:46,816
pretty similar res- re- reporting
requirements around that.

543
00:24:47,346 --> 00:24:50,566
So you can come and get
your test anonymously.

544
00:24:50,916 --> 00:24:54,606
Um, you can purchase it online
anonymously, other than that you have

545
00:24:54,606 --> 00:24:58,806
to, uh, put a credit card in at some
point, or PayPal or something like that.

546
00:24:59,236 --> 00:25:02,466
But, and you can come by our office and
pay cash, I guess, if you wanted to.

547
00:25:02,906 --> 00:25:06,366
We may eventually start doing something
with crypto and allow people that way but

548
00:25:06,366 --> 00:25:11,966
certainly once you're in the database-
Mm-hmm ... um, we run our own servers,

549
00:25:11,966 --> 00:25:16,306
so we actually don't allow any third
parties in there for exactly that reason.

550
00:25:16,306 --> 00:25:19,126
So we wanna keep it secure, we
wanna keep it anonymous, we wanna

551
00:25:19,126 --> 00:25:21,116
keep it private and confidential.

552
00:25:21,516 --> 00:25:25,646
We don't sell our data, we don't
sell our samples like some labs do.

553
00:25:26,056 --> 00:25:28,456
Um, so none of that is going anywhere.

554
00:25:28,826 --> 00:25:33,626
And the profile that I mentioned, even for
the adult side, we don't even store that.

555
00:25:33,626 --> 00:25:37,116
We store a, a hashed version of
that, a mathematical hash that

556
00:25:37,116 --> 00:25:39,766
we can't go backwards on, so
we just know that they match.

557
00:25:39,806 --> 00:25:42,796
We don't know that like the genetic...
We don't know your genetic makeup and

558
00:25:42,796 --> 00:25:45,716
we can't- Mm-hmm ... you know, if we're
subpoenaed, we can't give that data

559
00:25:45,716 --> 00:25:46,776
to anyone 'cause we don't have it.

560
00:25:47,356 --> 00:25:52,736
So- Okay ... it's... we put a lot of
thought into maintaining that privacy and

561
00:25:52,736 --> 00:25:58,746
really protecting you know, the people
who want to know their own results and

562
00:25:58,746 --> 00:26:01,306
be safe, um, but also be, be private.

563
00:26:01,516 --> 00:26:06,136
So we recognize that there's a lot
of, a lot of stuff in the- Yes ... in

564
00:26:06,136 --> 00:26:09,336
the world around us and we don't
wanna get people crossed up in that.

565
00:26:10,096 --> 00:26:13,836
So I know that you- It's
mailed to you, right?

566
00:26:13,836 --> 00:26:14,006
Right.

567
00:26:14,006 --> 00:26:15,736
You order it and it's mailed to you.

568
00:26:16,386 --> 00:26:21,026
Does it come in a, like a ... Does
it come, like, in those black bags

569
00:26:21,026 --> 00:26:22,776
where nobody knows what, what it is?

570
00:26:22,776 --> 00:26:24,406
Or is it that discreet?

571
00:26:24,406 --> 00:26:24,906
It's discreet packaging.

572
00:26:24,906 --> 00:26:25,196
Yeah.

573
00:26:25,456 --> 00:26:27,846
I mean, I don't- It's a white
box ... does anybody even care?

574
00:26:27,846 --> 00:26:28,306
A white box.

575
00:26:28,346 --> 00:26:28,426
Okay.

576
00:26:28,456 --> 00:26:29,426
So it's a plain white box.

577
00:26:29,476 --> 00:26:32,476
The only thing it has on, on the side
is a barcode so we know which one it is.

578
00:26:33,056 --> 00:26:33,386
Yeah.

579
00:26:33,386 --> 00:26:37,156
Um, so unless you know a lot about
us, you're not gonna get much

580
00:26:37,156 --> 00:26:38,566
information off the outside of that.

581
00:26:39,096 --> 00:26:43,386
Every... Other than that, it just comes
in a, in a FedEx, uh, bag- Okay ... or

582
00:26:43,746 --> 00:26:45,706
we use UPS or Post Office as well.

583
00:26:46,186 --> 00:26:51,056
The only real identifying mark inside
is this little guy, which is a QR

584
00:26:51,056 --> 00:26:53,176
code, um, which is unique to this kit.

585
00:26:53,316 --> 00:26:57,426
So that's what you scan to register
this kit to yourself so that we know

586
00:26:57,426 --> 00:26:59,566
where to send results to, uh, right?

587
00:26:59,566 --> 00:27:02,836
You, again, you don't have to tell us
who you are, but you do have to tell us

588
00:27:02,866 --> 00:27:03,976
how we're gonna communicate with you.

589
00:27:04,496 --> 00:27:04,606
Um-

590
00:27:04,606 --> 00:27:04,846
Yeah

591
00:27:04,846 --> 00:27:05,906
...
so that, that's the way we do

592
00:27:05,906 --> 00:27:06,196
that.

593
00:27:06,196 --> 00:27:10,336
And so once I've done my testing- Mm-hmm
... and I've, I've, you've collected all my

594
00:27:10,336 --> 00:27:15,766
blood and all that good stuff, we mail it
off, how fast does that come back to us?

595
00:27:15,766 --> 00:27:16,666
Like, the results?

596
00:27:16,986 --> 00:27:17,946
Well, it- Yeah, what's the turnaround?

597
00:27:18,456 --> 00:27:19,766
... depends a little bit on you.

598
00:27:19,936 --> 00:27:20,566
Um- Okay

599
00:27:20,606 --> 00:27:20,856
...
and, and

600
00:27:20,906 --> 00:27:24,706
I'll plug before we get to the re-
return we encourage people to get a

601
00:27:24,706 --> 00:27:27,856
kit on th- on their shelf, because
they're good for a year on the shelf.

602
00:27:27,856 --> 00:27:30,646
So you can just pick it up off your shelf-
Oh, wow ... and test whenever you need to.

603
00:27:31,006 --> 00:27:33,836
So, and that way you're not scrambling
at the last minute, "Oh, I had,

604
00:27:34,146 --> 00:27:37,416
exposure to somebody and I need to
get tested," or, "I'm having symptoms.

605
00:27:37,416 --> 00:27:39,056
I need to..." Just have the kit there.

606
00:27:39,056 --> 00:27:39,786
It's so easy.

607
00:27:40,176 --> 00:27:41,666
That way you don't have to rush to get it.

608
00:27:41,666 --> 00:27:41,696
Mm-hmm.

609
00:27:41,946 --> 00:27:45,946
So once you have it and you use it
there's three options to come back to us.

610
00:27:45,946 --> 00:27:49,186
One is overnight, which you have to pay
a little bit of extra for, of course.

611
00:27:49,516 --> 00:27:51,216
One is two-day, which is pretty quick.

612
00:27:51,386 --> 00:27:54,356
And the other is a three-day,
which usually is a three to

613
00:27:54,356 --> 00:27:55,646
five-day kind of turnaround.

614
00:27:56,016 --> 00:28:00,886
Okay ... our kits are good in the mail
for 10 days, so even if the, you know,

615
00:28:00,886 --> 00:28:03,016
the k- mail carrier screws up, um- That's

616
00:28:03,016 --> 00:28:03,786
what I was gonna ask.

617
00:28:03,786 --> 00:28:05,886
Yeah, like how good are the samples for?

618
00:28:05,916 --> 00:28:05,996
Yeah.

619
00:28:06,266 --> 00:28:06,526
You know?

620
00:28:06,526 --> 00:28:06,556
I

621
00:28:06,556 --> 00:28:09,676
mean, that's another big piece
that we worked on a lot, uh,

622
00:28:09,676 --> 00:28:12,646
especially th- thinking about
it during COVID and after COVID.

623
00:28:12,966 --> 00:28:13,056
Mm.

624
00:28:13,056 --> 00:28:16,366
Um, you know, how can we
make this simple, right?

625
00:28:16,366 --> 00:28:20,966
Well, one way we made it simple is you
don't need a refrigerated pack, right?

626
00:28:21,006 --> 00:28:23,656
You're throwing it- That's
awesome ... at ambient temperature,

627
00:28:23,656 --> 00:28:27,736
room temperature, into the box
and sending it back to us, right?

628
00:28:27,736 --> 00:28:31,776
And so we had to test it at different
high temps, different low temps, and

629
00:28:31,776 --> 00:28:34,776
all that kinda stuff to make sure
that, that the science would work.

630
00:28:35,236 --> 00:28:36,296
Um, it's not magic.

631
00:28:36,366 --> 00:28:38,016
It's, it is actual science.

632
00:28:38,126 --> 00:28:42,621
Um- Yeah And, you know, we had to run
through a lot of different scenarios

633
00:28:42,621 --> 00:28:45,881
to make sure that we're covering all
the bases, and every time we do a

634
00:28:45,881 --> 00:28:47,901
test, we can deliver it the right way.

635
00:28:48,381 --> 00:28:50,551
Um, so- That's awesome ... to
answer your question, your original

636
00:28:50,551 --> 00:28:52,731
question- ... then you get a result.

637
00:28:52,761 --> 00:28:56,441
When we've got the results in the
lab, we push them back out to your

638
00:28:56,441 --> 00:28:58,191
account however you registered for it.

639
00:28:58,191 --> 00:29:02,841
So- Okay ... typically, it's gonna come
to your phone, uh, as a, as a notification

640
00:29:03,101 --> 00:29:07,691
or your email, and then you click through
that into the secure portal to get your

641
00:29:07,691 --> 00:29:10,511
results, and you have to, obviously,
there's two-factor authentication and

642
00:29:10,511 --> 00:29:13,841
all that kind of good stuff to make sure
that you are you and somebody else isn't

643
00:29:13,971 --> 00:29:15,331
coming in and getting your results.

644
00:29:15,931 --> 00:29:16,031
Yeah.

645
00:29:16,111 --> 00:29:17,321
But yeah, it comes right to your phone.

646
00:29:17,671 --> 00:29:17,791
Yes.

647
00:29:17,931 --> 00:29:19,311
Just, just like the box- Get seeing
the results ... comes right to your

648
00:29:19,311 --> 00:29:20,951
home, this comes right even closer.

649
00:29:20,951 --> 00:29:21,251
Nice.

650
00:29:21,961 --> 00:29:23,721
Wow, that's, that is really cool.

651
00:29:23,751 --> 00:29:27,431
Now- And, and the only way to,
uh... Like, we're in Austin, Texas.

652
00:29:27,991 --> 00:29:30,481
The only way to find it
is through the website.

653
00:29:30,481 --> 00:29:31,081
Is that correct?

654
00:29:31,711 --> 00:29:31,921
Yeah.

655
00:29:31,921 --> 00:29:34,681
At the moment it... Well, there's,
there's sort of two ways to

656
00:29:34,681 --> 00:29:35,851
find it, I guess, at the moment.

657
00:29:35,891 --> 00:29:40,391
There's online at prodxhealth.com
or you can find the Pro13

658
00:29:40,391 --> 00:29:41,851
at getpro13.com as well.

659
00:29:42,291 --> 00:29:45,661
Or at, we do a lot of conventions,
so people can actually buy a kit

660
00:29:45,661 --> 00:29:50,071
at a convention and shows, and, uh,
they can test right there and drop

661
00:29:50,071 --> 00:29:52,401
it off with us, and we'll, we'll have
the results by the stage and- Oh.

662
00:29:52,491 --> 00:29:53,111
Oh,

663
00:29:53,141 --> 00:29:55,211
man ... at most of the- Yeah ... most
of the conventions that we're doing.

664
00:29:55,211 --> 00:29:56,021
That's a- That is

665
00:29:56,021 --> 00:29:57,471
genius ... really- That's
just super convenient.

666
00:29:57,471 --> 00:30:02,421
And so I know that- Um- I know that
you also test for hormones, right?

667
00:30:02,421 --> 00:30:02,551
Yeah.

668
00:30:03,241 --> 00:30:03,401
Yep.

669
00:30:03,431 --> 00:30:04,221
That hormone testing.

670
00:30:04,221 --> 00:30:04,391
Exactly.

671
00:30:04,391 --> 00:30:04,721
That's

672
00:30:05,051 --> 00:30:05,391
sick.

673
00:30:05,391 --> 00:30:08,461
Yeah, it's a good process, and we're,
we're open to, to bring all this to

674
00:30:08,461 --> 00:30:11,051
Amazon, but there's a lot of regulation
stuff that we're still working through.

675
00:30:11,051 --> 00:30:11,361
I'm sure.

676
00:30:11,751 --> 00:30:11,861
But,

677
00:30:12,481 --> 00:30:14,281
Hopefully find us there soon.

678
00:30:14,951 --> 00:30:15,431
Yeah.

679
00:30:15,431 --> 00:30:15,491
So,

680
00:30:15,601 --> 00:30:15,831
so-

681
00:30:15,861 --> 00:30:17,331
But the hormone stuff is great.

682
00:30:17,331 --> 00:30:20,611
It's same principles different
tests, slightly different tubes,

683
00:30:20,611 --> 00:30:21,701
so it's a slightly different kit.

684
00:30:22,171 --> 00:30:23,111
But same principle.

685
00:30:23,111 --> 00:30:23,831
You get it back to us.

686
00:30:23,831 --> 00:30:25,711
We get it back within 24 to 48 hours.

687
00:30:26,391 --> 00:30:27,001
Oh, you see, guys?

688
00:30:27,001 --> 00:30:28,951
Y'all can test for your stamina.

689
00:30:29,001 --> 00:30:33,421
Well, so this, this part I really don't
have a whole lot of knowledge about.

690
00:30:33,471 --> 00:30:37,681
You know, I, I've been taking, uh,
health I don't know how many times in

691
00:30:37,681 --> 00:30:41,091
high school, and so I've, I've talked
about STIs I don't know how many times,

692
00:30:41,121 --> 00:30:46,371
but this portion, I gotta admit, is a
little rocky territory for me because

693
00:30:46,401 --> 00:30:48,201
I really don't understand a lot of it.

694
00:30:48,281 --> 00:30:52,521
So what exactly do your tests
test for on this end of it?

695
00:30:52,901 --> 00:30:56,191
Well, I, I, first off, I think a lot
of people are in, in your boat there.

696
00:30:56,361 --> 00:31:00,931
Mm. And, and physicians even struggle
sometimes with hormones and, you

697
00:31:00,931 --> 00:31:03,651
know, especially treating them because
it's oftentimes a balancing act.

698
00:31:03,691 --> 00:31:08,136
So we have a l- a whole bunch
of different panels out there.

699
00:31:08,136 --> 00:31:12,636
There's a men's and a women's health
panel, which is sort of general health and

700
00:31:12,696 --> 00:31:15,526
h- you know, uh, uh, h- hormonal levels.

701
00:31:15,916 --> 00:31:19,086
There's ones for sleep and thyroid.

702
00:31:19,086 --> 00:31:22,406
There's ones for physical
performance, like if you wanna

703
00:31:22,726 --> 00:31:24,406
max out your physical performance.

704
00:31:24,406 --> 00:31:26,216
There's ones for sexual performance.

705
00:31:26,216 --> 00:31:29,516
There's ones for uh,
longevity and so forth.

706
00:31:29,516 --> 00:31:32,956
So there's a whole bunch that
are sort of symptom or go,

707
00:31:32,996 --> 00:31:34,236
you know, condition-focused.

708
00:31:34,676 --> 00:31:37,046
But then there's also
some general health ones.

709
00:31:37,046 --> 00:31:41,136
And basically what they can tell you
is, A, whether something is running

710
00:31:41,136 --> 00:31:45,246
low and abnormal in you, like say your
thyroid, and, um, you know, we can

711
00:31:45,846 --> 00:31:49,186
point you in the right direction with,
with that sort of thing, both in the

712
00:31:49,186 --> 00:31:50,666
short-term management and long-term.

713
00:31:51,196 --> 00:31:54,596
Or, s- in terms of sexual
hormones and male, female

714
00:31:54,596 --> 00:31:55,886
hormones, those kinds of things.

715
00:31:55,886 --> 00:32:00,836
And a- all of them can be, tweaked
in one way or another, whether it's

716
00:32:00,906 --> 00:32:06,436
through diet, through nutraceutical
type of, of treatments, or through

717
00:32:06,436 --> 00:32:09,796
actual pharmaceutical type treatments
that, that require a prescription.

718
00:32:09,876 --> 00:32:15,086
You know, there's a lot that can be done
and can be looked at, and there's a lot,

719
00:32:15,126 --> 00:32:20,026
especially, people don't take it... A- as
we age, people take it for granted that,

720
00:32:20,386 --> 00:32:25,696
you know, "Oh, I'm 45, I'm 55, I can still
do what I was doing when I was 25." Well-

721
00:32:26,076 --> 00:32:26,316
Yeah

722
00:32:26,686 --> 00:32:27,516
...
not always.

723
00:32:27,516 --> 00:32:27,586
No.

724
00:32:27,586 --> 00:32:31,356
I mean, sometimes, but all of a sudden you
realize, oh, I don't quite do that same...

725
00:32:31,656 --> 00:32:35,656
And you can actually track some
of those things and, and see them.

726
00:32:35,656 --> 00:32:38,796
And s- many of those things can be
addressed in various ways if, if

727
00:32:38,796 --> 00:32:43,056
they're going too low, too fast,
or too high, too fast and so on.

728
00:32:43,156 --> 00:32:45,456
So it's, there's a lot out
there that can be looked at.

729
00:32:46,206 --> 00:32:46,516
Yes.

730
00:32:46,616 --> 00:32:52,096
So once- Yeah ... uh, say I wanna test
to see what my testosterone levels are.

731
00:32:52,526 --> 00:32:53,956
And so I go to the site.

732
00:32:53,956 --> 00:32:57,076
I, I order, ... I guess it's,
uh, it's a, it's a panel,

733
00:32:57,256 --> 00:32:57,366
Yeah

734
00:32:57,866 --> 00:33:05,276
...
and once I get the results of that, it's
just a matter of taking that to my doctor,

735
00:33:05,276 --> 00:33:06,216
my local doctor- 'Cause, like, is there a

736
00:33:06,216 --> 00:33:06,896
prescription?

737
00:33:06,896 --> 00:33:07,246
...
or- Like, do

738
00:33:07,246 --> 00:33:07,636
y'all offer

739
00:33:07,636 --> 00:33:07,776
that?

740
00:33:07,806 --> 00:33:07,926
Yeah.

741
00:33:08,206 --> 00:33:09,966
We're, we're doing some prescribing.

742
00:33:09,966 --> 00:33:12,776
We're not gen- generally doing
the long-term care of it,

743
00:33:12,816 --> 00:33:13,936
but we'll start people off.

744
00:33:13,986 --> 00:33:17,166
So STI stuff we'll treat,
you know, regardless.

745
00:33:17,236 --> 00:33:23,046
But- Okay ... but similarly, if some, for
the HIV positive, for example, the new HIV

746
00:33:23,046 --> 00:33:27,676
positives that we find, you know, we'll
get them on the road towards treatment

747
00:33:27,676 --> 00:33:30,366
'cause that's a longer term treatment,
and find them, help them find someone

748
00:33:30,366 --> 00:33:32,206
locally to, to manage that for them.

749
00:33:32,206 --> 00:33:34,426
And we kinda do the same
thing on the hormone side.

750
00:33:34,426 --> 00:33:37,556
Some of the things we can address
right away or help them address

751
00:33:37,556 --> 00:33:41,486
if it's a non-prescription and get
them to kind of find that balance.

752
00:33:41,816 --> 00:33:46,496
But some of them, you know, you want your
primary care doc or somebody involved,

753
00:33:46,866 --> 00:33:50,026
uh, in the longer term, but maybe they
didn't think to look, or you haven't

754
00:33:50,026 --> 00:33:52,456
seen them in five years or what have you.

755
00:33:52,756 --> 00:33:54,966
Yeah ... so this is a way to
kind of reconnect you back into

756
00:33:54,966 --> 00:33:56,576
the, the healthcare system.

757
00:33:57,076 --> 00:33:57,836
That's, it's easy.

758
00:33:58,046 --> 00:33:58,106
Yeah.

759
00:33:58,106 --> 00:33:58,236
Yeah.

760
00:33:58,276 --> 00:33:59,406
It just seems really easy.

761
00:33:59,406 --> 00:34:01,816
I mean, it's super
convenient, and it's easy, so

762
00:34:02,546 --> 00:34:06,896
Yeah, you know, and as- Well, and- ... as
far as results, like do they stay are

763
00:34:06,896 --> 00:34:09,566
they a- available to us, like forever?

764
00:34:09,566 --> 00:34:09,836
Like-

765
00:34:09,986 --> 00:34:10,176
Yeah

766
00:34:10,176 --> 00:34:10,626
...
does it get purged?

767
00:34:10,626 --> 00:34:13,516
So you build your account, and we,
we have an online portal, and you can

768
00:34:13,516 --> 00:34:16,586
go in there any time, um, you know,
through our app or through the web app

769
00:34:16,826 --> 00:34:22,146
and download 'em, track 'em share a
PDF out, especially on the STI side.

770
00:34:22,506 --> 00:34:26,636
We encourage data sharing, um,
so you can share with a group or

771
00:34:26,636 --> 00:34:28,136
your partner or what have you.

772
00:34:28,136 --> 00:34:29,096
Um- Oh,

773
00:34:29,246 --> 00:34:30,546
see, now that's amazing.

774
00:34:31,196 --> 00:34:32,446
Yeah, that is really cool ... so
there's a whole nother, another

775
00:34:32,446 --> 00:34:33,906
conversation around that, yeah.

776
00:34:34,366 --> 00:34:34,566
Yeah.

777
00:34:34,566 --> 00:34:36,776
Yeah, because all I would think
would be, "Oh, I'll... Let me

778
00:34:36,776 --> 00:34:38,416
screenshot this so I can text

779
00:34:38,416 --> 00:34:39,756
it to-" Yeah, I mean, 'cause that's
what you think- Yeah ... and lots

780
00:34:39,756 --> 00:34:41,106
of people do, so I love that.

781
00:34:41,106 --> 00:34:43,026
So you offer that group sharing with- Yep

782
00:34:43,106 --> 00:34:44,196
within whoever-

783
00:34:44,196 --> 00:34:44,876
Exactly ... system.

784
00:34:44,876 --> 00:34:47,706
So we, we've done... You know, obviously
we're doing that kind of stuff on

785
00:34:47,706 --> 00:34:51,666
the adult film side because there's
groups of people getting together for

786
00:34:51,666 --> 00:34:57,016
a studio shoot or their own stuff, and,
um, you know, it's, it's date focused

787
00:34:57,016 --> 00:34:59,366
often or timeline focused in some way.

788
00:34:59,366 --> 00:35:02,636
And you know, we offer a whole bunch of
different ways to share that information.

789
00:35:02,636 --> 00:35:05,416
So you can have a coordinator who's
in charge of the whole group who's

790
00:35:05,416 --> 00:35:07,966
checking, or you can have just- Yeah
... everybody sharing with everybody.

791
00:35:08,396 --> 00:35:10,746
It's up, up to you how you wanna
build that, but o- obviously

792
00:35:10,746 --> 00:35:11,636
it's all consent driven.

793
00:35:12,406 --> 00:35:14,366
Y'all have thought of everything.

794
00:35:14,746 --> 00:35:16,866
No, I don't know about
everything yet, but we're trying.

795
00:35:17,136 --> 00:35:20,176
Um Uh, I'm pretty sure- We're open to
suggestions ... you're thinking of more.

796
00:35:20,416 --> 00:35:22,536
But- I'm pretty sure
you're thinking of more.

797
00:35:22,536 --> 00:35:24,176
I, I, I can see- So- ... the gears going.

798
00:35:24,176 --> 00:35:24,266
It's...

799
00:35:24,476 --> 00:35:24,606
Okay,

800
00:35:24,606 --> 00:35:27,896
so- No, but seriously, some of, some
of these things come from you all, you

801
00:35:27,896 --> 00:35:31,516
know, from, from our, our cl- customers
and clients and we love those 'cause

802
00:35:31,516 --> 00:35:36,346
those are a- usually the most, ef-
effective o- suggestions and, and- Yeah.

803
00:35:36,566 --> 00:35:37,596
that hit a lot of people.

804
00:35:38,096 --> 00:35:38,956
Sorry, you were gonna say something.

805
00:35:39,236 --> 00:35:40,016
I can't wait.

806
00:35:40,046 --> 00:35:42,256
I mean, 'cause I all I'm
thinking is a needle.

807
00:35:42,746 --> 00:35:44,506
I'm thinking I have to inject-
No, you don't ... a needle.

808
00:35:44,546 --> 00:35:45,246
No needle.

809
00:35:45,246 --> 00:35:46,116
And there's no needle.

810
00:35:46,116 --> 00:35:48,106
So how, how, how does this work, Todd?

811
00:35:48,516 --> 00:35:51,836
There's a, a hidden little
lancet in the device.

812
00:35:52,236 --> 00:35:53,906
So let me get one of them out here.

813
00:35:53,986 --> 00:35:55,476
Actually, I've got one
right behind me here.

814
00:35:55,976 --> 00:35:56,496
So this- I'm digging

815
00:35:56,496 --> 00:35:56,816
the hat.

816
00:35:57,166 --> 00:35:57,226
Yeah.

817
00:35:57,576 --> 00:35:58,486
And the hoodie.

818
00:35:58,806 --> 00:35:59,516
Oh, man.

819
00:35:59,666 --> 00:36:01,066
I gotta get my hands on that hoodie.

820
00:36:01,136 --> 00:36:03,226
We'll get, we'll get you,
we'll get you swagged out.

821
00:36:03,596 --> 00:36:06,816
So this is the little, the little guy,
um, that- Oh, wow ... that tube I was

822
00:36:06,816 --> 00:36:08,616
showing you goes- Mm ... right on the end.

823
00:36:08,996 --> 00:36:10,546
Okay ... but it's, it's tiny, right?

824
00:36:10,546 --> 00:36:13,696
You just put it on your, uh,
shoulder or you can do it on the

825
00:36:13,696 --> 00:36:15,476
thigh as well or the, or the butt.

826
00:36:16,046 --> 00:36:20,546
And you push the red button, and over
about five minutes it collects your blood.

827
00:36:20,546 --> 00:36:23,086
So it takes usually about two minutes
for the first drop to come out.

828
00:36:23,606 --> 00:36:24,966
But there's no needle in here.

829
00:36:25,346 --> 00:36:28,271
There's a lancet- kind of
in here on the backside-

830
00:36:28,601 --> 00:36:32,981
...
Um, that pops out on a spring and
then, uh, and then is retracted.

831
00:36:33,031 --> 00:36:34,661
So it just pokes you real quick.

832
00:36:35,101 --> 00:36:37,871
But one of the reasons why we do
it on the shoulder is 'cause you

833
00:36:37,871 --> 00:36:38,851
don't have many nerves there.

834
00:36:39,271 --> 00:36:42,921
So some people- Yeah ... don't
even know what go in, and, um, it's

835
00:36:42,921 --> 00:36:44,611
not, it's not making a big hole.

836
00:36:44,611 --> 00:36:46,181
I mean, it's gotta make a
hole 'cause there's blood.

837
00:36:46,371 --> 00:36:46,521
Right.

838
00:36:46,521 --> 00:36:47,891
You know, we gotta get
the blood out somehow.

839
00:36:48,391 --> 00:36:51,761
But, um, uh, it's not a very
big hole, and usually it's gone

840
00:36:51,761 --> 00:36:53,421
within a, a two days or so.

841
00:36:53,761 --> 00:36:56,251
You know, occasionally there's
some fair-skinned folks who it

842
00:36:56,251 --> 00:36:57,381
leaves a little bit of a mark.

843
00:36:57,921 --> 00:36:58,121
Um-

844
00:36:58,121 --> 00:36:58,351
Yeah

845
00:36:58,571 --> 00:37:01,031
...
but everybody's different and that's
probably gonna happen if you get a

846
00:37:01,031 --> 00:37:02,841
needle in your, in your arm too, but-

847
00:37:02,971 --> 00:37:03,371
Either way, yeah.

848
00:37:03,371 --> 00:37:03,591
You

849
00:37:03,591 --> 00:37:03,671
know?

850
00:37:03,791 --> 00:37:06,771
So if you know you're that, maybe
you try it on your thigh or your-

851
00:37:06,931 --> 00:37:07,461
Yeah ... somewhere

852
00:37:07,461 --> 00:37:10,481
that's a little more hidden, your
belly, uh, that kind of thing.

853
00:37:10,901 --> 00:37:15,551
So that little thing looks like the
little diabetic little machines, right?

854
00:37:15,651 --> 00:37:15,711
Yeah.

855
00:37:15,941 --> 00:37:16,431
It's, it's- Okay

856
00:37:16,431 --> 00:37:17,191
...
similar principle.

857
00:37:17,191 --> 00:37:17,451
Um- Kind of

858
00:37:17,451 --> 00:37:17,661
the s-

859
00:37:17,701 --> 00:37:18,031
kind of the

860
00:37:18,031 --> 00:37:18,881
same concept?

861
00:37:18,881 --> 00:37:19,281
It's- Okay

862
00:37:19,281 --> 00:37:21,261
...
it's just, it's a single-

863
00:37:21,561 --> 00:37:21,641
Oh

864
00:37:21,701 --> 00:37:25,301
...
I mean, it's gonna clot over the, that,
that incision that it makes from here.

865
00:37:25,681 --> 00:37:27,751
It's gonna clot- Yeah ... after
a certain period of time.

866
00:37:27,751 --> 00:37:30,661
So you have, you know, the clock's
ticking, and it's different

867
00:37:30,661 --> 00:37:31,821
for everybody a little bit-

868
00:37:31,901 --> 00:37:32,081
Yeah

869
00:37:32,111 --> 00:37:33,521
...
as to how fast you're gonna clot.

870
00:37:33,551 --> 00:37:37,211
So- Yeah ... our goal is to get as
much blood out of here as possible.

871
00:37:37,211 --> 00:37:39,361
And that, that's one of the things
that we do, like, on the tele visit.

872
00:37:39,681 --> 00:37:43,351
We'll coach you through it so that,
the... you wanna warm up the area.

873
00:37:43,351 --> 00:37:45,611
So if you have a warm compress
beforehand, that's good.

874
00:37:45,611 --> 00:37:48,561
Or if it's not flowing real fast, you
can put the warm compress over the whole

875
00:37:48,561 --> 00:37:51,641
thing, or a hair dryer, stuff like that.

876
00:37:51,881 --> 00:37:52,631
Um, you know, so if you-

877
00:37:52,631 --> 00:37:54,061
I clot really fast.

878
00:37:54,241 --> 00:37:54,371
Yeah.

879
00:37:54,371 --> 00:37:58,181
So, like, when I go give blood or
something, I, my blood clots like- So

880
00:37:58,181 --> 00:38:01,041
you wanna warm up
beforehand, warm that area.

881
00:38:01,311 --> 00:38:05,671
Maybe you're doing little s- little
cur- curls and stuff or the hand and-

882
00:38:06,011 --> 00:38:08,411
Okay ... you know, maybe you ran up and
down the stairs a couple times just to

883
00:38:08,411 --> 00:38:10,101
get your blood pressure up before you, uh-

884
00:38:10,181 --> 00:38:10,401
No.

885
00:38:10,401 --> 00:38:13,631
Warm up the body.

886
00:38:13,661 --> 00:38:13,981
Yeah.

887
00:38:14,301 --> 00:38:16,101
I'm not running anywhere, so.

888
00:38:17,061 --> 00:38:17,391
Yeah.

889
00:38:17,421 --> 00:38:18,121
None of us run.

890
00:38:18,551 --> 00:38:19,771
And- You gotta

891
00:38:19,771 --> 00:38:20,521
run from these guys.

892
00:38:20,741 --> 00:38:21,191
Ah.

893
00:38:21,651 --> 00:38:22,321
Yeah.

894
00:38:22,591 --> 00:38:23,811
What are those little guys?

895
00:38:24,211 --> 00:38:26,021
Oh, this is, uh, this is Trick.

896
00:38:26,606 --> 00:38:27,016
Okay.

897
00:38:27,126 --> 00:38:27,466
Great

898
00:38:27,466 --> 00:38:29,576
And this is, uh, chlamydia

899
00:38:30,516 --> 00:38:31,466
Oh, look at that.

900
00:38:31,546 --> 00:38:32,696
They're not that cute, guys

901
00:38:33,176 --> 00:38:33,506
They're not

902
00:38:33,506 --> 00:38:34,516
that cute It's not

903
00:38:34,546 --> 00:38:35,156
that

904
00:38:35,156 --> 00:38:35,416
cute Yeah

905
00:38:35,826 --> 00:38:39,016
You know, you can, you can definitely say
that you've got chlamydia on your desk

906
00:38:39,426 --> 00:38:39,936
Yeah.

907
00:38:40,026 --> 00:38:43,526
Well, we usually at the, the shows,
we toss it at people and say, "Oh, you

908
00:38:43,726 --> 00:38:45,226
see how easy it is to catch an STD?"

909
00:38:45,266 --> 00:38:46,786
Oh my goodness.

910
00:38:46,946 --> 00:38:48,626
That is... Yeah.

911
00:38:48,786 --> 00:38:49,086
It's funny.

912
00:38:49,086 --> 00:38:50,086
That's hilarious, man And it's

913
00:38:50,086 --> 00:38:50,646
very true.

914
00:38:50,646 --> 00:38:51,436
I mean, it is easy to- That

915
00:38:51,436 --> 00:38:52,036
is everyone can

916
00:38:52,036 --> 00:38:52,806
catch one ... to catch one.

917
00:38:53,246 --> 00:38:56,276
Now, you know, I... We're gonna
start to wrap up, but I, I...

918
00:38:56,486 --> 00:39:00,076
if someone in the lifestyle
does happen to test positive for

919
00:39:00,186 --> 00:39:04,516
something through ProDx what's the
process look like from that point?

920
00:39:04,956 --> 00:39:05,296
Yeah.

921
00:39:05,576 --> 00:39:10,346
So generally we are calling
positives for most things.

922
00:39:10,346 --> 00:39:12,886
We don't call positives for herpes
because there's a lot of them.

923
00:39:13,346 --> 00:39:16,886
Um, and, and people usually sort
of know what to expect there.

924
00:39:16,886 --> 00:39:19,796
So, but, but you're welcome to call
us if you have questions on anything.

925
00:39:20,166 --> 00:39:22,766
Uh, but generally we'll try
and reach somebody before we

926
00:39:22,766 --> 00:39:24,086
actually release that result.

927
00:39:24,536 --> 00:39:27,406
If we, if we can't reach you, we'll
go ahead and release it and, you're

928
00:39:27,406 --> 00:39:28,866
still welcome to follow up with us.

929
00:39:29,246 --> 00:39:32,146
Generally speaking, we're writing
a prescription for that person-

930
00:39:32,376 --> 00:39:32,516
Oh

931
00:39:32,516 --> 00:39:35,296
...
or connecting them to their
local physician for that.

932
00:39:35,476 --> 00:39:39,586
You know, we wanna make sure that,
you know, that positive gets addressed

933
00:39:39,586 --> 00:39:43,226
in the most appropriate way, and
obviously there's, there's, uh,

934
00:39:43,386 --> 00:39:46,156
you know, contact tracing kind of
stuff that needs to happen too.

935
00:39:46,156 --> 00:39:50,186
And, you know, the person is the
only person who, who does that.

936
00:39:50,706 --> 00:39:54,186
We've also built interfaces with,
um, some of the groups we work with.

937
00:39:54,186 --> 00:39:58,626
So there's a couple of event groups,
uh, The Play LA and a few others

938
00:39:58,626 --> 00:40:02,826
that have put us into their process
for their events, and when you buy

939
00:40:02,826 --> 00:40:04,686
a ticket, you can buy a test, right?

940
00:40:04,686 --> 00:40:07,516
And they- Oh, wow ... they were one
of the first ones to require testing.

941
00:40:08,006 --> 00:40:10,586
Um, and there's a, a number of others
that have, have picked that up as well.

942
00:40:10,586 --> 00:40:14,876
But we actually f- feed anonymously
the, those results back to them

943
00:40:14,906 --> 00:40:16,956
as well, by consent of course.

944
00:40:17,186 --> 00:40:20,536
But, um, you know, lots to be done
there, where we've had a lot of

945
00:40:20,656 --> 00:40:23,436
really interesting discussions with
groups on the East Coast and on

946
00:40:23,436 --> 00:40:25,676
the West Coast on how to do that.

947
00:40:25,676 --> 00:40:28,626
And everybody's... A lot of people's
ideas are different, so we try to,

948
00:40:29,136 --> 00:40:30,426
uh, work with everybody on that.

949
00:40:30,486 --> 00:40:33,386
But again, it's back to the sharing
part of, of the information.

950
00:40:33,616 --> 00:40:33,756
Yeah.

951
00:40:33,866 --> 00:40:36,626
But you're the one that gets shared
with first and foremost, and you

952
00:40:36,626 --> 00:40:38,686
control how that information gets out,

953
00:40:38,996 --> 00:40:39,906
Man, that is-

954
00:40:39,936 --> 00:40:40,576
I know

955
00:40:40,626 --> 00:40:41,756
that is so crazy.

956
00:40:41,756 --> 00:40:44,316
You know, uh, there's, there is
one thing I gotta ask though, how

957
00:40:44,316 --> 00:40:49,116
did you even decide to go into
this, like this specifically?

958
00:40:49,116 --> 00:40:53,056
Like, I mean, I understand
everybody's on lockdown during COVID.

959
00:40:53,056 --> 00:40:56,876
What made your brain go, "Hey-
What the hell am I doing?

960
00:40:56,876 --> 00:40:57,926
I need to be doing this

961
00:40:57,976 --> 00:41:01,686
well, I'm a, I'm a infectious disease
doc by training, so, you know- Nice

962
00:41:01,686 --> 00:41:05,866
Oh ... STIs certainly are on the list
of, of some of the more common illnesses

963
00:41:05,926 --> 00:41:08,276
out there in terms of infections.

964
00:41:08,336 --> 00:41:12,226
So I've certainly worked with
them, uh, you know, over various

965
00:41:12,226 --> 00:41:13,636
times over the course of my career.

966
00:41:13,986 --> 00:41:19,466
We actually had some really cool projects
pre-COVID, uh, in the STI space that we're

967
00:41:19,466 --> 00:41:25,326
looking at you know, it was kinda early in
the cellphone era of doing notifications

968
00:41:25,436 --> 00:41:27,176
mobily directly to people's phones.

969
00:41:27,546 --> 00:41:27,646
Wow.

970
00:41:27,676 --> 00:41:31,956
And you know, that was a lot of fun,
but, uh, got cut short un- unfortunately

971
00:41:31,986 --> 00:41:33,676
by COVID and, and a few other things.

972
00:41:34,096 --> 00:41:37,566
So in some ways it was kind of
returning to some of the ideas that

973
00:41:37,566 --> 00:41:39,226
were already percolating there.

974
00:41:39,226 --> 00:41:43,366
And, and part of it too, like I
said, was, you know, a lot of, lot of

975
00:41:43,366 --> 00:41:48,406
ideas and technologies that we were
developing during COVID to get COVID

976
00:41:48,406 --> 00:41:53,706
done, got us thinking about other and
better ways and better tools to do this

977
00:41:53,706 --> 00:41:58,266
stuff on the science side that could
start to shrink things down and, and,

978
00:41:58,356 --> 00:42:02,406
actually enable the lab to not just
be in a hospital or clinic to start

979
00:42:02,406 --> 00:42:04,196
being able to reach out to the home.

980
00:42:04,686 --> 00:42:06,906
And, you know, we did
that a lot during COVID.

981
00:42:06,906 --> 00:42:09,976
We had... You know, our group had
mobile vans running all over the place.

982
00:42:10,266 --> 00:42:16,386
We built we built a CLEA-level lab in
Hawaii airports, and we were actually

983
00:42:16,616 --> 00:42:20,636
one of the groups responsible for
doing the arrivals testing in Hawaii

984
00:42:20,706 --> 00:42:24,036
for all the- Oh ... COVID folks, and
we would get results out in an hour.

985
00:42:24,416 --> 00:42:28,476
Um, so a lot of that same outreach stuff
and having vans running around all over

986
00:42:28,476 --> 00:42:32,616
the place and then ultimately, of course,
everybody knows the, the little, COVID

987
00:42:32,616 --> 00:42:34,366
antibody tests that, that people do.

988
00:42:34,896 --> 00:42:37,226
That's the ultimate of getting out
there, but that's a screening test,

989
00:42:37,226 --> 00:42:41,216
and so, you know, it's this balance
between these how do you get the high

990
00:42:41,216 --> 00:42:44,836
quality tests out there as opposed to
the cheap screening tests out there-

991
00:42:44,906 --> 00:42:47,946
To stop, epidemics like what
was going on in the STI front.

992
00:42:48,076 --> 00:42:51,946
So we figured we, we had the tools to
do it and, you know, and there were

993
00:42:51,946 --> 00:42:55,786
so many things wrong in the, in the
sex positive space that we wanted to

994
00:42:55,786 --> 00:42:59,516
bring some positive stuff back into
it, and, uh, seemed, seemed like the

995
00:42:59,516 --> 00:43:02,076
right thing to do, seemed like a good
idea, and we're, we're sticking with it.

996
00:43:02,516 --> 00:43:02,616
Hey,

997
00:43:02,616 --> 00:43:04,596
that's- I, I think it's,
I think it's amazing.

998
00:43:04,596 --> 00:43:04,976
I, I- I think it's a

999
00:43:04,976 --> 00:43:05,986
great idea

1000
00:43:05,986 --> 00:43:09,276
I really, uh, I really am looking
forward to, uh, scoping it out.

1001
00:43:09,276 --> 00:43:12,236
You know, for everybody listening
on our show, we, we are, uh,

1002
00:43:12,236 --> 00:43:14,646
actually going to be doing the test.

1003
00:43:14,646 --> 00:43:19,116
We're gonna be doing a whole show on it
and, uh, a- and showing the whole process.

1004
00:43:19,116 --> 00:43:20,006
It's gonna be a lot of fun.

1005
00:43:20,036 --> 00:43:20,396
Yeah.

1006
00:43:20,476 --> 00:43:20,816
Um, uh-

1007
00:43:20,986 --> 00:43:23,926
Dr. Andy, let us know again,
where can we find this test?

1008
00:43:23,926 --> 00:43:25,146
Where can we tell our guests to go?

1009
00:43:25,736 --> 00:43:27,886
ProDx Health for online.

1010
00:43:27,886 --> 00:43:30,886
Uh, we're also on Instagram
and X, uh, and Facebook.

1011
00:43:31,196 --> 00:43:33,986
I think it's @ProDxHealth for all those.

1012
00:43:33,986 --> 00:43:39,156
And, uh, if you're in the industry and
you want a Pro13, just go to getpro13.com

1013
00:43:39,516 --> 00:43:41,206
and you'll go straight to that product.

1014
00:43:41,446 --> 00:43:41,686
So-

1015
00:43:41,686 --> 00:43:42,096
Well-

1016
00:43:42,596 --> 00:43:42,806
...
easy to find

1017
00:43:42,806 --> 00:43:43,126
Awesome.

1018
00:43:43,186 --> 00:43:43,696
Awesome.

1019
00:43:43,956 --> 00:43:44,216
Yeah.

1020
00:43:44,216 --> 00:43:47,236
And, uh, you know, for everyone listening
at home, you know, we're gonna have

1021
00:43:47,336 --> 00:43:51,866
all of that information, uh, on our
show notes, uh, as well as pretty much

1022
00:43:51,896 --> 00:43:54,386
anywhere, uh, you can find this episode.

1023
00:43:54,856 --> 00:43:57,306
I just wanna say for anybody
listening who has been putting

1024
00:43:57,306 --> 00:43:59,766
this off, this is your sign.

1025
00:44:00,026 --> 00:44:04,126
There's no easier way to do this than-
Yeah ... what Dr. K just laid out for us.

1026
00:44:04,126 --> 00:44:04,216
Yes.

1027
00:44:04,246 --> 00:44:06,726
We are going to link everything
in the show notes over there,

1028
00:44:06,966 --> 00:44:09,666
www.beyond-monogamy.com.

1029
00:44:10,036 --> 00:44:12,016
Uh, so it's gonna be right
there waiting for you.

1030
00:44:12,106 --> 00:44:13,296
No excuses, my guys.

1031
00:44:13,296 --> 00:44:13,656
That's right.

1032
00:44:13,656 --> 00:44:14,006
Y'all know what's up.

1033
00:44:14,006 --> 00:44:14,136
There's

1034
00:44:14,136 --> 00:44:14,546
none.

1035
00:44:14,546 --> 00:44:15,596
No excuses at all.

1036
00:44:15,596 --> 00:44:16,666
It's gonna be super easy.

1037
00:44:16,746 --> 00:44:17,196
Yes.

1038
00:44:17,196 --> 00:44:19,706
And Dr. Andy thank you sincerely.

1039
00:44:19,736 --> 00:44:22,296
This was exactly what our
community needed to hear.

1040
00:44:22,686 --> 00:44:25,606
Uh, we're grateful that you
brought all of this to our table.

1041
00:44:26,216 --> 00:44:27,056
I appreciate it.

1042
00:44:27,106 --> 00:44:30,446
Thank you guys for tuning in to
another episode of Beyond Monogamy.

1043
00:44:30,876 --> 00:44:34,906
Now real talk, uh, if you're out here
in the lifestyle- Yes ... playing

1044
00:44:34,906 --> 00:44:37,636
with multiple partners, going to
events, hosting parties, doing

1045
00:44:37,636 --> 00:44:41,866
the thing, and you're not testing
regularly with a comprehensive panel-

1046
00:44:42,136 --> 00:44:42,276
Mm-hmm

1047
00:44:42,346 --> 00:44:45,626
...
please let today be the
day that that changes.

1048
00:44:46,166 --> 00:44:46,346
Yeah.

1049
00:44:46,346 --> 00:44:49,386
Not because we are judging you, we are
literally the last people who would

1050
00:44:49,456 --> 00:44:53,086
ever judge you, but because you deserve
to know what is going on in your body.

1051
00:44:53,256 --> 00:44:57,706
Your partners deserve that from you,
and the lifestyle is honestly so much

1052
00:44:57,706 --> 00:45:01,686
more fun when everybody comes to the
table with confidence and transparency.

1053
00:45:02,086 --> 00:45:03,466
ProDx makes that easy.

1054
00:45:03,466 --> 00:45:05,456
It makes it private, it makes it fast.

1055
00:45:05,836 --> 00:45:06,896
Just handle your business.

1056
00:45:06,896 --> 00:45:07,906
Your community will thank you.

1057
00:45:08,346 --> 00:45:08,516
Yeah.

1058
00:45:08,516 --> 00:45:10,026
I couldn't have said it better myself.

1059
00:45:10,616 --> 00:45:15,046
Uh, and while you're out there,
stop by www.beyond-monogamy.com.

1060
00:45:15,106 --> 00:45:19,996
Every episode that we have ever dropped,
video clips, guest bios, our blog, our

1061
00:45:19,996 --> 00:45:23,226
merch, our full events calendar are all
sitting right there waiting for you.

1062
00:45:23,506 --> 00:45:26,536
And if you love what we do, hit
that subscribe button on Spotify

1063
00:45:26,536 --> 00:45:30,626
or Apple Podcast, leave a five-star
review, and share this episode.

1064
00:45:30,626 --> 00:45:32,046
Specifically this one.

1065
00:45:32,486 --> 00:45:33,976
Send it to your play partners.

1066
00:45:33,976 --> 00:45:36,456
Drop it in your lifestyle group chats.

1067
00:45:36,756 --> 00:45:36,896
Yes.

1068
00:45:36,896 --> 00:45:38,686
Post it in your swinger Facebook groups.

1069
00:45:38,716 --> 00:45:41,716
This is the kind of conversation that
makes the whole community better,

1070
00:45:42,046 --> 00:45:44,066
and more people really need to hear

1071
00:45:44,306 --> 00:45:44,366
it.

1072
00:45:44,366 --> 00:45:44,756
Yes.

1073
00:45:44,756 --> 00:45:46,556
And don't forget our Beyond
Monogamy confessional.

1074
00:45:46,556 --> 00:45:47,586
It is fully anonymous.

1075
00:45:47,646 --> 00:45:48,796
We read every single one.

1076
00:45:48,846 --> 00:45:51,641
There's nothing- too out there for us.

1077
00:45:51,811 --> 00:45:53,641
Trust me, we've seen
it, we've heard it all.

1078
00:45:53,991 --> 00:45:57,041
Whatever's on your mind about the
lifestyle, whatever question you are

1079
00:45:57,041 --> 00:46:00,581
afraid to ask out loud, whatever story
you need to get off your chest, drop it.

1080
00:46:00,921 --> 00:46:01,431
Yeah.

1081
00:46:01,431 --> 00:46:01,821
beyond-monogamy.com.

1082
00:46:02,301 --> 00:46:03,071
Yeah.

1083
00:46:03,571 --> 00:46:07,191
And you can also catch us streaming
over at, uh, fullswapradio.com.

1084
00:46:07,231 --> 00:46:10,471
Our episodes broadcast right there
on the channel, so go check it out,

1085
00:46:10,751 --> 00:46:12,871
get subscribed, and stay in the loop.

1086
00:46:13,371 --> 00:46:16,001
And okay, this is the part
where I get to be excited about.

1087
00:46:16,001 --> 00:46:19,821
We have an event coming up on June
20th in San Antonio at Club Eden.

1088
00:46:19,991 --> 00:46:20,371
Yes.

1089
00:46:20,371 --> 00:46:21,661
Go get your tests, guys.

1090
00:46:21,781 --> 00:46:22,281
Yes.

1091
00:46:22,401 --> 00:46:22,851
We wanna know what

1092
00:46:22,851 --> 00:46:23,261
you're testing.

1093
00:46:23,261 --> 00:46:26,751
Get your test because that's
gonna be a big bash, and there's

1094
00:46:26,751 --> 00:46:28,261
gonna be lots of sex happening.

1095
00:46:28,311 --> 00:46:28,641
Yes.

1096
00:46:28,641 --> 00:46:32,721
So you get your test now, and
then after, you can test, and

1097
00:46:32,721 --> 00:46:33,821
we already know the turnaround.

1098
00:46:33,931 --> 00:46:34,051
Yes.

1099
00:46:34,051 --> 00:46:34,661
So that's right.

1100
00:46:35,581 --> 00:46:37,981
Look, if you know Club Eden,
you already know that that's

1101
00:46:37,981 --> 00:46:39,721
gonna be a bash, like I said.

1102
00:46:39,721 --> 00:46:43,941
So with that, we really appreciate
everybody listening every week.

1103
00:46:43,991 --> 00:46:46,851
You guys are the reasons why we
do this, the whole community.

1104
00:46:47,371 --> 00:46:50,261
Thank you very much, and we
will see you guys next week.

1105
00:46:50,291 --> 00:46:51,001
Bye.