Wandering Aimlessly: Jealousy, Bi Curiosity & the ENM Newbie Survival Guide

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All right, y'all.

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Before we dive in, a quick heads-up

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This show is raw, real, and
definitely not rated PG.

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We're talking about adult themes,
sexual content, and the kinda stuff you

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probably don't want blasting through your
speakers at work or around your kids.

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So grab some headphones, pour your
drink of choice, and get comfy.

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Oh, and just so we're clear,
we are not licensed therapists,

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counselors, or sex couches.

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Sex coaches.

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Sex coaches.

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Not sex couches.

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We're just a couple of people sharing
our lives, experiences, and sexy

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adventures in ethical non-monogamy.

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So with that, pull up a
chair and enjoy the show.

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hello, and welcome to another
episode of Beyond Monogamy.

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I'm Adam.

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And I'm Pris, and today we've got a
quickie that I think is gonna hit home

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for a lot of people, especially if
you're at the beginning of this journey.

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Yeah.

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And I wanna say something about
that before we even get into it.

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There is no such thing as a
stupid question when you're new.

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None.

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No.

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We were there.

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Everybody in this
lifestyle, they were there.

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Everybody.

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So if you're brand new and you're
wondering around trying to figure out what

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the hell you're doing, this one's for you.

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Yeah.

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But first, if you're getting anything out
of this show, do us a favor right now.

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Hit follow, hit subscribe.

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Leave us a review, people.

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Yes.

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You can do that on
Spotify, on Apple Podcasts.

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You

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got this.

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You can do it.

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And you can share this episode
with everybody who needs to

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hear it, because these actions
cost you nothing- That's right

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and they mean everything to us.

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That's right.

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You love us.

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You know you love us.

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And don't forget to go to
www.beyond-monogamy.com to

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leave your 100% anonymous
confessional, because guess what?

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What?

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We got a confession.

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We do?

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Yeah.

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Ooh, are you gonna read it?

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I am.

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Okay.

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Do your thing.

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Yeah.

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This one came in, and when
I read it, I looked at Pris.

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Uh, we were on vacation at Disney,
and I was like, "Whoa, we have to do

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a quickie on this one." Oh, that one.

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Yeah, that

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one.

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Mm. Yeah, because this person's
asking questions that I guarantee

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a huge chunk of our audience has
either already asked themselves-

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Mm-hmm

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...
or is asking right now and
doesn't know where to go with it.

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That's right, and that's exactly what
this confessional is for, people.

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That's

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exactly what it's for.

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So let me go ahead and read this one.

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This one came into our website
completely anonymous, completely

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real, and here's how it goes.

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Okay.

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My husband and I are very
new to the lifestyle.

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I have a couple of issues, and I
am not sure how to handle them.

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We initially talked about and
wanted me to have a bi experience,

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and he wanted to just watch.

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We are very voyeuristic, and I
love exhibitionism." This week,

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my husband told me that he would
like to play with other women.

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I was crushed.

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I have no idea how to get
over the jealousy in my head.

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He's an amazing husband.

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Since we started down this path, our
relationship is now stronger than it

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has ever been in the last 15 years.

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It's fantastic.

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I want him to be happy, but
how can I get over this?

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My other question is, how to open
conversation with a woman that I'm

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interested in, but I have never been
with a woman, but I really want to.

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I see so many posts in different forums
that people are put off by newbies.

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Being new, I feel like we are blindly
wandering around not knowing what to do.

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Please help.

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Kind regards, Wandering Aimlessly.

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I think I'm gonna not
talk on this podcast.

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Oh.

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Uh-oh.

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Well, you know, you have a lot to
say, and I know you had a lot to

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say when we first talked about it.

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Now, Wandering Aimlessly- Wandering

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Aimlessly

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...
uh, let me tell you, Wandering Aimlessly,
first off, thank you for reaching out.

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Thank you for putting-
Yes ... yourself out there.

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That is never easy- Yeah ... especially
with a situation like that.

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It's, it's, it's a thing.

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It's a situation- It's a- ... for sure

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...
situation, and I'm not gonna lie
to you I have a lot of opinions.

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Suggestions.

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Oh,

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boy, do you.

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Thoughts.

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Boy, do you.

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And I hope I don't ramble, and I hope
I touch each one as it comes because-

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Oh, man, that is such a
sexual sentence to say

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...
I have, I just have a lot.

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Should I go or should you go?

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No, go

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ahead.

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You got so much to say, by all means.

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First of all, thank you for not
saying you are bi-situational.

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I appreciate that, because I personally do
not like to play with people who say that,

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women who say they're bi-situational.

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That's just me.

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Newbies, great.

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Okay.

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So you were crushed when your man said
he wanted to play with other women.

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One- Because that's

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not, that's not what they got
in there for ... that's not

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what you got in there for, but
I understand why and how...

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I understand why you feel crushed
because you probably are thinking

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he is looking for something better,
or what if this woman is better

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in s- better in bed than I am?

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What if he falls in love?

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What if he falls, like, just deep?

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I get it.

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Those are all very real scenarios, and you
have very real feelings, but it feels like

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you guys have been together for 15 years,
and it's already a great relationship,

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and now you're opening it to this.

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Those feelings are probably
gonna always be there.

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I have been with this man
forever- 15 years ... 15 years.

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I know that I'm his world.

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I know how much he loves me.

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I know how much he adores me.

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I know how much... The sex is great.

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Nobody can do what I can
do with him and vice versa.

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But it took a lot of work on his end.

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And I said it before, Adam has put
so much work into this relationship

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and so much work into the
relationship being in the lifestyle.

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That's everyday reassurance.

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It's exhausting.

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That everyday telling me, you
know, when I'm feeling bad, not to

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feel... Like, he's just, he's great.

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I mean, he has his days, right?

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But it's a lot of reassurance on his
part and it's a lot of communication.

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When we started in the lifestyle,
I just wanted to be with women.

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Or that was the main point.

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That was kind of what we-
Yeah ... I mean, it, that wasn't

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the only reason we went in.

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That wasn't the only reason.

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But, uh- But that's how we opened it

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yeah, that, that is how we opened it.

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Um,

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because I'm bisexual, and I never
really had those experiences.

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Were you scared, I wonder?

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Were you scared that a woman was gonna do
something better than... Is that a scare

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that you had, a feeling that you had?

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No, it never was.

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Yeah.

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It, it never even crossed my
mind, and the primary reason is

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because I'm so in love with you.

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Uh, and that's not just,
that's not me being romantic.

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Like, I'm straight up telling
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there isn't a single person who
could do something better than you.

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Agreed.

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Because they're not you.

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Yeah.

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You know

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what I mean?

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I agree.

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Like, even if- Yeah ... they had some
magic technique that would make me- Yeah

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you know, shoot off in, in seconds, that
wouldn't necessarily make them better.

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What we have is not just sex.

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Yeah, we fuck sometimes, but-
Yeah ... what we have is very intimate.

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It is.

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It's, it's not just the sex-
Yeah ... that you and I have.

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And I f- I mean, I get why you're
crushed, but you, there's so

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many ways that you can do this.

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You can invite a woman to
play with both of y'all.

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You know, that's, that's
kind of reassuring.

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It was reassuring for me because I
know I couldn't control the situation,

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but I could be uncomfortable with
the situation and see how I liked it.

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And there was many times where after
we had pl- play time with a woman

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that I was, like, f- in my feels.

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Oh, yeah.

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Um.

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Oh, yeah.

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I don't get like that
anymore, and I don't know why.

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I've grown, I guess.

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But I used to get really in my
feels of oh, that was better.

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Oh, you like that?" For

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years.

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For years.

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I don't do that anymore.

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But I only don't do that anymore
because I know how amazing I am.

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Do you know what I mean?

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Like, with you, I know my, how,
how great it is with you, so-

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You know,

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it only took me- ... I don't
really compare myself ... 15

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years to, to convince you.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Because- I don't compare
myself to anybody ... for

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several years, and I'm talking,
like, maybe just within the past

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couple of years- Yeah ... is
where that switch flipped.

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Because previous to that, you have
always been worried about somebody

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taking me away from you or somebody
doing something better than you.

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You know, the level of insecurity
for that is pretty high.

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Yeah.

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And it's hard to go into something
like this as an open relationship

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or even sexually open and have those
feelings deep-seeded and not know it-

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Yes

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until something like this happens.

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Yes.

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And then all of a sudden
your world just drops.

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It

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does.

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It makes you- It drops ... um, as
a, I mean, as a woman, I'm just

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gonna give you my experience.

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It makes you feel less than.

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It does make you kind of get
inside yourself and doubt

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everything that you have.

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But it takes...

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Don't do what I did.

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First of all, don't do what I did.

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I was... I would hold in my feelings.

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They would come out in other ways.

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They, our argument, we had arguments
because I just didn't know how to...

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What's the word I'm looking for?

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How to express myself.

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Yeah.

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How to work through that.

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You didn't know how to

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communicate your feelings properly.

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I didn't

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know how to communicate my feelings.

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Um, I would hold it in and it would
fester, and it was a really hard time.

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Plus the ADHD, so that you can't-
Yeah ... you can't really find your

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thoughts- Yeah ... properly to word them
correctly to where I could understand.

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Yeah.

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And you would cut yourself
off over and over again.

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Yeah.

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I'm like, "I don't get it."

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Yeah.

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It

251
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doesn't make any sense to me.

252
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He

253
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speaks, he speaks Pris now, so he's- I've

254
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gotten better at it, that's for sure.

255
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Yeah.

256
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Um, so I mean, I, I understand it is
gonna make you feel a certain way, but

257
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he's coming to you and he's asking you,
and you can really have a lot of fun

258
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with this because both of y'all can be
with a woman and see how you like it.

259
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Or you know, you can do something
like a, a cuckold and he can

260
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watch you, you can watch him.

261
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So there's lots of little dynamics you
can do that would be probably easier than

262
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for you to be like, "Cool. Go and have fun
with a woman, and I'm not gonna be there."

263
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Did you say you could do cuckold?

264
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Cuck- Is it cuckold?

265
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I don't think so.

266
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What is it?

267
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Because then he would have to
watch her with somebody else.

268
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Yeah.

269
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What if he watches her?

270
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Like, he can sit down and
watch her with a woman.

271
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But the, the thing

272
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is, is that he wants to
experience other women.

273
00:10:52,393 --> 00:10:52,603
Yeah.

274
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Well, I'm saying, like, like they can
first start with inviting a woman.

275
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He can be sitting and watching
his wife with a woman because

276
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he, she wants to be with a woman.

277
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Well, yeah, so but- Understand what
they're saying is, is they initially

278
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s- jumped into this because they talked
about her having a bi experience-

279
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Mm-hmm ... and, and just watching.

280
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And he wanted to just watch.

281
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So that's essentially w- that's a hot
wife situation, not necessarily cuckold.

282
00:11:15,708 --> 00:11:15,828
Oh, okay.

283
00:11:15,828 --> 00:11:18,388
'Cause cuckold has the
degradation and the humiliation.

284
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That's right.

285
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That's right.

286
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And, you know, I don't, I don't think
that's really... He's more of the

287
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voyeur- Okay ... uh, more, uh, into
the exhibition, uh, exhibitionism.

288
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So yeah, like he can

289
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invite somebody over and he can sit,
watch, and then y'all could switch.

290
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And then y'all could switch, and
then you can watch him with her.

291
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Sit and watch.

292
00:11:35,698 --> 00:11:39,368
Yeah, like- Um ... I mean, you
can make this a very hot scenario.

293
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There's a lot to, to get through and,
and, uh- There is ... you, you set

294
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up... I, I, I just wanna start from
the, the beginning there, because like

295
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you said, you initially talked about
wanting to have a, a bisexual experience

296
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and that he was just gonna watch.

297
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This was their initial-
Yes ... agreement going into this.

298
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Yeah.

299
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And so that's what she's had in her head.

300
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Mm-hmm.

301
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And she didn't, I'm assuming, she didn't
think about any of these other things

302
00:12:06,828 --> 00:12:09,508
like, oh, he's gonna wanna have sex
with somebody else or this or that.

303
00:12:09,508 --> 00:12:13,788
Like- Yeah ... that probably never came up
because they probably never discussed it.

304
00:12:13,828 --> 00:12:17,968
Initially, you wanna
communicate every single thing.

305
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Everything.

306
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Um, and so even if he hadn't brought
it up, it would've been good to say,

307
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"Is this something that you would be
interested in? Like, are you interested

308
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in having sex with other women, or you
just wanna have sex with, or you just

309
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wanna watch me and have sex with me?"

310
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Mm-hmm.

311
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Or blah, blah, blah.

312
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You like work out the kinks
in every single conversation.

313
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Hash 'em out.

314
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If they've answered you
once, ask 'em again later on.

315
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Make sure that, that, that answer hasn't
changed because that that changes.

316
00:12:44,908 --> 00:12:48,738
You know, women and men are very different
sometimes, uh, especially for us.

317
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You were very similar in this that, that
y- we went into this and you were looking

318
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at one very specific kind of experience.

319
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Yes.

320
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And that was you with other women.

321
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That was me, you know,
possibly being in the mix.

322
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But as things progressed, man, I, a lot of
us guys, we're like kids in a candy store.

323
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We see all these women and then
we think, "Oh man, I can, I can

324
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have sex with everybody." Mm-hmm.

325
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And, and it, we get excited because
we think, "I can pull this and I

326
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can pull that," because we don't
really know about the lifestyle

327
00:13:17,788 --> 00:13:19,218
early on when we're coming in new.

328
00:13:19,338 --> 00:13:22,468
And so a lot of us guys, we start trying
to hit up all these different women,

329
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and then we realize nobody wants us.

330
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And that's the- That's
true ... that's the fact of it, man.

331
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You, th- this is a
woman-centric lifestyle.

332
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It is.

333
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And a lot of us guys are kinda put
off to the side, uh, because we

334
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are not the ones to be seeked out.

335
00:13:38,338 --> 00:13:42,718
Yet a lot of us start with this kid
in a candy store kinda mentality that

336
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I'm, I'm gonna go buck wild and I'm
gonna do this and I'm gonna do that.

337
00:13:45,728 --> 00:13:50,848
And that's why a lot of guys tend
to get their ego knocked down a few

338
00:13:50,848 --> 00:13:55,248
pegs because they realize no matter
what they look like, no matter

339
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how they are charming or whatever-

340
00:13:57,608 --> 00:13:58,068
Mm-hmm

341
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uh, it doesn't really matter.

342
00:14:00,168 --> 00:14:00,288
No.

343
00:14:00,288 --> 00:14:03,868
Like, you're still gonna be a
second choice, maybe a third choice.

344
00:14:03,868 --> 00:14:04,028
Like-

345
00:14:04,398 --> 00:14:05,548
Or maybe not even a choice.

346
00:14:05,578 --> 00:14:05,988
Yeah.

347
00:14:06,098 --> 00:14:06,288
And

348
00:14:06,288 --> 00:14:11,668
so what he will eventually realize, uh,
you know, I understand that you were

349
00:14:11,668 --> 00:14:15,938
crushed by the fact that he's expressed
the want to play with other women.

350
00:14:16,568 --> 00:14:19,958
But understand that
it's, it's an experience.

351
00:14:20,018 --> 00:14:21,278
He's wanting- Yeah ... to try.

352
00:14:21,278 --> 00:14:21,758
And I

353
00:14:21,758 --> 00:14:23,778
mean, like I said, do it together.

354
00:14:23,918 --> 00:14:24,688
Try that.

355
00:14:24,798 --> 00:14:27,248
Jealousy, always gonna be there.

356
00:14:27,538 --> 00:14:28,468
It's a feeling.

357
00:14:28,468 --> 00:14:29,988
It's a normal feeling.

358
00:14:30,708 --> 00:14:32,678
And just talk it out.

359
00:14:32,808 --> 00:14:37,978
Like- Yeah ... it's, uh, you've
already opened it, the conversation.

360
00:14:38,378 --> 00:14:41,638
You've already opened it, so you
know, when you're having those good

361
00:14:41,678 --> 00:14:44,208
feelings and you're having those
bad feelings, talk about them.

362
00:14:44,208 --> 00:14:47,858
Like, that's the best advice I can
give you- Yeah ... is talk about it.

363
00:14:47,858 --> 00:14:51,518
If you have girlfriends that are in
the lifestyle, talk about it to them.

364
00:14:51,928 --> 00:14:54,178
I think it might be a good situation.

365
00:14:54,178 --> 00:14:56,058
Um, he's already- I mean, you can't

366
00:14:56,058 --> 00:14:56,558
really tell.

367
00:14:56,558 --> 00:14:56,648
I

368
00:14:56,648 --> 00:15:01,118
mean, I can, but he's already
an amazing husband, so you

369
00:15:01,118 --> 00:15:01,358
know?

370
00:15:02,098 --> 00:15:07,348
You know, real- realistically, you're not
gonna know how you feel until you see it.

371
00:15:07,448 --> 00:15:08,758
Um, that's the bottom line.

372
00:15:08,788 --> 00:15:12,708
Like, you can feel these feelings now
of feeling crushed and, and dealing

373
00:15:12,708 --> 00:15:14,128
with jealousy and things like that.

374
00:15:14,548 --> 00:15:20,168
But until you're in the moment
and you see your spouse enjoying

375
00:15:20,168 --> 00:15:22,038
somebody else who is not you-

376
00:15:22,148 --> 00:15:26,508
...
That is a kick in the gut sometimes
if you're not prepared for it.

377
00:15:26,608 --> 00:15:26,778
Yes.

378
00:15:26,808 --> 00:15:27,028
Uh,

379
00:15:27,028 --> 00:15:29,708
so I would recommend you
do not jump into things.

380
00:15:30,468 --> 00:15:35,958
You have lots and lots of conversations
before you even get close to experiencing.

381
00:15:36,128 --> 00:15:36,828
We talked for a whole year.

382
00:15:36,828 --> 00:15:39,548
We talked for an entire year-
Maybe longer, yeah ... before we

383
00:15:39,548 --> 00:15:42,208
even had our first experience.

384
00:15:42,488 --> 00:15:46,618
Because I personally did not know
how I was gonna feel about it.

385
00:15:46,618 --> 00:15:46,958
Mm-hmm.

386
00:15:47,088 --> 00:15:48,268
Uh, so I had to see that.

387
00:15:48,798 --> 00:15:51,708
And I was kind of, uh,
enticed by the idea, but I was

388
00:15:51,708 --> 00:15:53,228
also really, really scared.

389
00:15:53,358 --> 00:15:53,518
Yeah.

390
00:15:53,558 --> 00:15:58,518
And I remember seriously thinking,
uh, as the guy showed up to have his

391
00:15:58,518 --> 00:16:02,338
fun with her, I was like, "There's
no going back from this." Mm-hmm.

392
00:16:02,398 --> 00:16:05,688
Either this is gonna fuck
up our relationship- Mm-hmm

393
00:16:05,838 --> 00:16:10,088
forever, or it's gonna do some really cool
stuff and we're gonna have a good time.

394
00:16:10,148 --> 00:16:10,388
Yeah.

395
00:16:10,518 --> 00:16:12,078
It's a 50/50 shot.

396
00:16:12,078 --> 00:16:12,548
It is.

397
00:16:13,058 --> 00:16:16,888
The other thing is like my honey
said, have those really deep

398
00:16:16,888 --> 00:16:19,348
conversations for as long as you can.

399
00:16:20,118 --> 00:16:24,988
Don't do things to make
each other just happy.

400
00:16:25,228 --> 00:16:28,778
"Oh, I'm just gonna let him do this, and
I'll just deal with the feelings later

401
00:16:28,778 --> 00:16:30,178
because I know it'll make him happy."

402
00:16:30,628 --> 00:16:31,088
No.

403
00:16:31,788 --> 00:16:35,828
That's, that's going in it wrong
because you're not gonna be happy.

404
00:16:36,618 --> 00:16:37,048
That's true.

405
00:16:37,138 --> 00:16:38,748
So- That's true ... talk about it.

406
00:16:38,848 --> 00:16:39,038
Talk about it.

407
00:16:39,038 --> 00:16:39,408
This is,

408
00:16:39,458 --> 00:16:42,028
This is y'all as a team-
Mm-hmm ... going into this.

409
00:16:42,028 --> 00:16:46,438
Because if y'all don't go in as a team,
if y'all go in separately or- Mm-hmm

410
00:16:46,438 --> 00:16:50,198
... he, he charges through and you're just
doing things to make him happy or vice

411
00:16:50,198 --> 00:16:55,858
versa, there's going to be an ounce of
resentment that eventually comes up.

412
00:16:56,298 --> 00:16:57,798
There's gonna be some fights.

413
00:16:57,828 --> 00:16:57,988
Yes.

414
00:16:57,988 --> 00:16:59,348
There's gonna be some arguments.

415
00:16:59,648 --> 00:17:02,868
I'm telling you, don't jump in quick.

416
00:17:03,018 --> 00:17:03,908
Take your time.

417
00:17:04,218 --> 00:17:04,248
Mm-hmm.

418
00:17:04,248 --> 00:17:08,568
Talk about different scenarios,
work things out, have those in-depth

419
00:17:08,688 --> 00:17:12,128
conversations because if you can't
do it now before y'all have actually

420
00:17:12,128 --> 00:17:16,528
had the experiences, it's gonna be
really hard after you've had- Yeah

421
00:17:16,528 --> 00:17:17,378
the experience.

422
00:17:17,408 --> 00:17:19,938
Create your boundaries, create your rules.

423
00:17:19,938 --> 00:17:20,408
Yes.

424
00:17:20,468 --> 00:17:23,318
Um- Have a long list ... have a long list.

425
00:17:23,348 --> 00:17:23,588
Yeah.

426
00:17:23,828 --> 00:17:25,008
You can go through them.

427
00:17:25,698 --> 00:17:30,138
And again, you don't know what
you like until you're doing it.

428
00:17:30,168 --> 00:17:31,338
You don't know if you like that.

429
00:17:31,338 --> 00:17:33,098
You don't know how that
feeling's gonna be.

430
00:17:33,608 --> 00:17:35,628
Don't go in there thinking
negative thoughts.

431
00:17:35,998 --> 00:17:36,598
Be open.

432
00:17:36,648 --> 00:17:36,928
Yeah.

433
00:17:36,998 --> 00:17:38,848
And you know, you said something poignant.

434
00:17:38,878 --> 00:17:41,828
Uh, you said, "I have no idea how
to get over the jealousy in my

435
00:17:41,828 --> 00:17:43,288
head." Let me tell you something.

436
00:17:43,288 --> 00:17:45,288
First off, jealousy is not a bad thing.

437
00:17:45,438 --> 00:17:45,578
Nope.

438
00:17:45,788 --> 00:17:48,928
Uh, we tend to villainize jealousy,
and it is not the villain.

439
00:17:48,958 --> 00:17:52,128
It is a human quality that we all have.

440
00:17:52,178 --> 00:17:53,078
Everybody has it.

441
00:17:53,178 --> 00:17:58,438
Uh, and anybody who says that they do not
get jealous ever, nah, that's not true.

442
00:17:58,438 --> 00:18:00,578
We've all had feelings of
jealousy at one point or another.

443
00:18:00,608 --> 00:18:03,418
Maybe it wasn't sexual, maybe
it wasn't romantic, but at some

444
00:18:03,418 --> 00:18:06,978
point- ... we have all had envy
and jealousy at different times.

445
00:18:07,008 --> 00:18:07,228
Yeah.

446
00:18:07,458 --> 00:18:08,748
Now, you're dealing- It's how you

447
00:18:08,748 --> 00:18:10,138
navigate through them.

448
00:18:10,208 --> 00:18:10,638
Yeah.

449
00:18:10,718 --> 00:18:15,208
Well, you're dealing with the jealousy
in your head right now, but the key

450
00:18:15,208 --> 00:18:17,878
is, how do you navigate that jealousy?

451
00:18:17,998 --> 00:18:23,248
And that's really where you have to
stop and you have to ask yourself, "What

452
00:18:23,328 --> 00:18:27,368
is it specifically that I'm feeling?"

453
00:18:27,638 --> 00:18:27,858
Yeah.

454
00:18:28,158 --> 00:18:31,938
Uh, am I angry at the thought that he
wants to have sex with other women?

455
00:18:32,348 --> 00:18:33,198
Am I sad?

456
00:18:33,228 --> 00:18:34,558
Do I feel less than?

457
00:18:34,558 --> 00:18:34,808
Mm-hmm.

458
00:18:34,888 --> 00:18:38,668
Do I feel like maybe he's going
to find something better than me?

459
00:18:39,008 --> 00:18:43,658
You know, write down all of those feelings
and those questions that you have, and

460
00:18:43,658 --> 00:18:47,178
then when you have that conversation with
him, you throw that shit out there and

461
00:18:47,178 --> 00:18:52,818
you say, "Hey, these are the feelings
that I have, and I'm trying to understand

462
00:18:52,818 --> 00:18:54,658
this better, and maybe you can help me."

463
00:18:54,968 --> 00:18:55,258
Yeah.

464
00:18:55,318 --> 00:18:59,538
Uh, and then as you guys talk about
it, you know, he can either confirm

465
00:18:59,538 --> 00:19:02,248
or deny whatever it is you're feeling.

466
00:19:02,338 --> 00:19:02,398
Mm-hmm.

467
00:19:02,818 --> 00:19:06,728
So, if you start saying, "Well, you know,
I, I'm jealous at the thought that you

468
00:19:06,728 --> 00:19:12,278
wanna have sex with another woman because,
you know, I, I thought I was all the

469
00:19:12,278 --> 00:19:16,808
woman you need," you know, obviously if
y'all are going into this, you're getting

470
00:19:16,808 --> 00:19:21,178
a different experience because you're
going for a woman, which is same sex.

471
00:19:21,948 --> 00:19:22,308
Mm-hmm.

472
00:19:23,438 --> 00:19:25,808
If you were to have sex with a man,
that would be- How would you feel?

473
00:19:25,808 --> 00:19:27,478
Yeah ... how, you know,
how would, you know?

474
00:19:27,478 --> 00:19:27,538
Yeah.

475
00:19:27,538 --> 00:19:29,288
And that's the stuff that
you guys gotta talk about.

476
00:19:29,288 --> 00:19:29,618
You have to

477
00:19:29,618 --> 00:19:30,228
talk about that.

478
00:19:30,258 --> 00:19:32,768
Uh, you gotta, you gotta work
out every detail of that.

479
00:19:32,768 --> 00:19:39,568
Because those are the real questions
that you start realizing, well, I'm just

480
00:19:39,568 --> 00:19:43,748
jealous, but really these things revolve
around insecurities that I have- Mm-hmm

481
00:19:43,748 --> 00:19:44,738
about my own self.

482
00:19:44,738 --> 00:19:45,048
Mm-hmm.

483
00:19:45,458 --> 00:19:50,978
And you can look at your spouse and go,
"Okay, well, has this person ever shown

484
00:19:50,978 --> 00:19:57,858
me that these insecurities are true? Like,
do I have real reason to feel this, or

485
00:19:57,858 --> 00:20:02,278
is my spouse constantly reassuring me?
Is my spouse constantly showing me love

486
00:20:02,278 --> 00:20:06,948
and affection, and I don't really feel
like this person would do this to me?"

487
00:20:07,498 --> 00:20:10,238
You know, because once you
realize that, you kinda gotta

488
00:20:10,238 --> 00:20:11,608
smash that shit in your head.

489
00:20:11,848 --> 00:20:13,788
With Pris, I, I don't know how
many times I had to tell her,

490
00:20:13,788 --> 00:20:15,978
"Look, I'm not going anywhere.

491
00:20:16,258 --> 00:20:17,288
I frigging love you.

492
00:20:17,578 --> 00:20:19,218
I'm not gonna leave you for somebody else.

493
00:20:19,218 --> 00:20:23,848
Nobody's gonna do things better than
you because you're perfect to me."

494
00:20:24,478 --> 00:20:27,438
And it took a long time for her to
realize it, but then she realized it.

495
00:20:27,438 --> 00:20:30,808
She's like, "Oh yeah, this
man loves me." He's not gonna

496
00:20:30,808 --> 00:20:31,038
go

497
00:20:31,088 --> 00:20:31,598
anywhere.

498
00:20:31,598 --> 00:20:32,018
Go do your thing.

499
00:20:32,018 --> 00:20:32,288
You

500
00:20:32,288 --> 00:20:32,908
ain't going nowhere.

501
00:20:33,318 --> 00:20:34,088
I ain't going anywhere.

502
00:20:34,338 --> 00:20:36,798
I mean, first off, let's be real here.

503
00:20:37,208 --> 00:20:38,768
15 years is a long time.

504
00:20:38,768 --> 00:20:39,328
It's a long time.

505
00:20:39,378 --> 00:20:40,118
It's a long time.

506
00:20:40,508 --> 00:20:46,708
Anything over 10 is a long time,
and frankly, after 15 years, you

507
00:20:46,708 --> 00:20:48,368
two have made a whole life together.

508
00:20:48,368 --> 00:20:48,538
Mm-hmm.

509
00:20:48,538 --> 00:20:50,168
I don't know if you have
kids, but maybe you do.

510
00:20:50,478 --> 00:20:52,918
I don't know if you got a house
or whatever, but maybe you do.

511
00:20:53,708 --> 00:20:54,388
Maybe you don't.

512
00:20:54,458 --> 00:20:59,438
But you guys have lasted 15
years together, and you're still

513
00:20:59,438 --> 00:21:03,038
sitting back talking about how
amazing of a husband he is.

514
00:21:03,038 --> 00:21:03,068
Mm-hmm.

515
00:21:03,068 --> 00:21:07,198
And I guarantee you, he's sitting back
saying how amazing of a wife you are.

516
00:21:07,898 --> 00:21:12,138
And those aren't just words,
those are feelings, man.

517
00:21:12,138 --> 00:21:12,228
Mm-hmm.

518
00:21:12,438 --> 00:21:15,368
Those are things that you have to take
to heart, and you have to hold them, and

519
00:21:15,368 --> 00:21:20,378
you have to go, "Okay, he reassures me
all the time, but I know this, too, and

520
00:21:20,378 --> 00:21:22,748
I need to hear that voice in my head.

521
00:21:22,778 --> 00:21:26,478
I need to hear his voice in
my head reassuring me." You

522
00:21:26,478 --> 00:21:27,458
know, that makes a difference.

523
00:21:27,508 --> 00:21:27,858
It does.

524
00:21:28,068 --> 00:21:30,868
I know that you used to always tell me,
"Yeah, you know, I was struggling with

525
00:21:30,868 --> 00:21:33,448
this," but I could hear you telling
me everything that you always tell me.

526
00:21:33,448 --> 00:21:33,498
Mm-hmm.

527
00:21:34,058 --> 00:21:34,198
Yeah.

528
00:21:34,198 --> 00:21:36,358
Um, a- and that's, that's the thing.

529
00:21:36,358 --> 00:21:36,788
You know, you

530
00:21:36,828 --> 00:21:39,668
I- if your husband is very amazing,
then you gotta give him that credit.

531
00:21:39,668 --> 00:21:39,708
Yeah.

532
00:21:39,708 --> 00:21:41,288
You gotta give it to him.

533
00:21:41,288 --> 00:21:49,228
Uh, now, 15 years is a long
time to be monogamous and then

534
00:21:49,228 --> 00:21:51,008
to consider opening it up.

535
00:21:51,098 --> 00:21:51,718
It's hard.

536
00:21:52,138 --> 00:21:52,548
It is.

537
00:21:52,548 --> 00:21:53,188
It's difficult.

538
00:21:53,188 --> 00:21:53,468
It's hard.

539
00:21:53,498 --> 00:21:54,358
It's difficult.

540
00:21:54,358 --> 00:21:54,698
Mm-hmm.

541
00:21:54,848 --> 00:22:00,578
It's only natural for a couple
when somebody says, "Well, I wanna

542
00:22:00,578 --> 00:22:05,188
experience this," the other person
at some point's gonna start thinking,

543
00:22:05,188 --> 00:22:07,608
"Well, I wanna have experiences, too.

544
00:22:08,288 --> 00:22:09,448
I don't wanna be alone in this.

545
00:22:09,448 --> 00:22:13,148
I w- I wanna try something."
Well, I mean, w- what, you know-

546
00:22:13,318 --> 00:22:14,868
Yeah, that's just like tit for tat.

547
00:22:14,948 --> 00:22:15,148
Like-

548
00:22:15,493 --> 00:22:19,573
It is, but you know- I mean- But a lot
of... That's a human feeling right there.

549
00:22:19,663 --> 00:22:19,913
Yeah

550
00:22:20,413 --> 00:22:23,423
...
is, well, you get to, you get to do this.

551
00:22:23,423 --> 00:22:25,263
I, I wanna have an experience too,

552
00:22:25,643 --> 00:22:29,623
and if you're prepared to open
that door for yourself, you should

553
00:22:29,653 --> 00:22:32,353
be prepared for your spouse to
walk through that door as well.

554
00:22:32,353 --> 00:22:34,073
Um- Unfortunately ... you know?

555
00:22:34,073 --> 00:22:34,763
Y- Yeah.

556
00:22:34,763 --> 00:22:37,263
Yeah, I mean, that's, I-
Yeah ... that's the bottom line.

557
00:22:37,263 --> 00:22:41,473
U- unless you guys have a straight
up agreement that says, "I'm gonna go

558
00:22:41,473 --> 00:22:43,633
play with this woman, and you're not."

559
00:22:43,853 --> 00:22:46,053
"And you're just gonna watch,
and this is what we've agreed

560
00:22:46,053 --> 00:22:47,683
upon. Nothing else." Mm-hmm.

561
00:22:48,363 --> 00:22:53,093
Expect that at some point they're
gonna go, "Well, I wanna try it."

562
00:22:53,293 --> 00:22:53,563
Yeah.

563
00:22:53,753 --> 00:22:54,193
"
I don't wanna, I

564
00:22:54,193 --> 00:22:57,783
don't wanna-" Yeah ... "just
sit back and watch everything."

565
00:22:58,308 --> 00:23:01,388
Okay, this next one we're
gonna brag a little.

566
00:23:01,578 --> 00:23:02,518
Just a little.

567
00:23:02,818 --> 00:23:06,338
So Alvarez and Co., tax
preparation and bookkeeping.

568
00:23:06,368 --> 00:23:07,358
That is us.

569
00:23:07,518 --> 00:23:09,278
Like, literally me and Pris.

570
00:23:09,498 --> 00:23:10,398
We know, we know.

571
00:23:10,588 --> 00:23:11,838
Not what you expected from us.

572
00:23:11,868 --> 00:23:12,168
Yes,

573
00:23:12,208 --> 00:23:13,878
we contain multitudes.

574
00:23:13,908 --> 00:23:14,008
We

575
00:23:14,008 --> 00:23:15,878
do taxes, bookkeeping, all of it.

576
00:23:15,908 --> 00:23:17,308
And honestly, we're really good

577
00:23:17,308 --> 00:23:17,518
at it.

578
00:23:17,738 --> 00:23:20,948
We really are, and we will not
judge your financial situation.

579
00:23:21,298 --> 00:23:23,268
Whatever you've got going on, bring it.

580
00:23:23,748 --> 00:23:24,318
Genuinely.

581
00:23:24,828 --> 00:23:25,658
We've seen things.

582
00:23:25,688 --> 00:23:26,758
We have seen some things.

583
00:23:27,018 --> 00:23:30,728
Just tell us that you're a listener,
and you'll get a discount on services.

584
00:23:30,938 --> 00:23:33,618
We promise we're way more
professional with your money

585
00:23:33,618 --> 00:23:34,878
than we are on this podcast.

586
00:23:34,908 --> 00:23:37,028
Yes, slightly more professional.

587
00:23:37,428 --> 00:23:37,938
Slightly.

588
00:23:37,938 --> 00:23:39,158
Okay, back to the show

589
00:23:39,658 --> 00:23:41,358
So, that's the tough part.

590
00:23:41,358 --> 00:23:47,158
Now, maybe you can answer her
second question on how to open

591
00:23:47,158 --> 00:23:51,758
up the conversation with a woman
because I don't necessarily n- I

592
00:23:51,758 --> 00:23:54,928
think you've gotten better, but
you really struggled with this- I

593
00:23:54,928 --> 00:23:56,618
mean- ... as well for a very long time

594
00:23:57,148 --> 00:23:57,658
...
yeah.

595
00:23:58,748 --> 00:24:00,408
I'm very selective also.

596
00:24:01,438 --> 00:24:05,588
So for me, it's not only an experience,
but it has to be an experience

597
00:24:05,588 --> 00:24:06,828
with somebody that I'm into.

598
00:24:07,228 --> 00:24:13,988
And so for women, I really have to,
like, be into them physically and just...

599
00:24:14,578 --> 00:24:17,328
Not physically, but, like, I have to
know... They, they have to be attractive.

600
00:24:18,128 --> 00:24:18,908
That's just the way I am.

601
00:24:18,908 --> 00:24:19,978
Well- That's me.

602
00:24:19,978 --> 00:24:20,778
I'm sorry.

603
00:24:20,778 --> 00:24:21,898
Um, like, like- Yeah

604
00:24:21,958 --> 00:24:23,698
I- I have to be physically
attracted to them, and they

605
00:24:23,698 --> 00:24:24,988
have to have good personalities.

606
00:24:25,338 --> 00:24:29,238
And how you just...
it's, you kinda just ask.

607
00:24:29,808 --> 00:24:31,628
You just, "Hey, do you like women?"

608
00:24:32,238 --> 00:24:33,438
It's gonna be, it's gonna be awkward

609
00:24:33,598 --> 00:24:36,438
...
it's gonna be awkward and be like,
"Yeah. Okay. Um, do you think

610
00:24:36,468 --> 00:24:40,128
maybe you'd like to play with me?"

611
00:24:41,328 --> 00:24:42,038
That's it.

612
00:24:42,138 --> 00:24:45,438
You know, you, you bring up an
interesting point in the fact that

613
00:24:45,788 --> 00:24:47,468
y- you said you're very selective.

614
00:24:47,468 --> 00:24:48,228
Very selective.

615
00:24:48,278 --> 00:24:51,318
And so you don't just jump in
with- Yeah ... uh, just anybody.

616
00:24:51,368 --> 00:24:51,408
Mm-hmm.

617
00:24:51,408 --> 00:24:53,688
And, and that's something
that I wanna caution you, too.

618
00:24:54,668 --> 00:24:56,358
Yes, have your communication.

619
00:24:56,358 --> 00:24:57,348
Talk, talk- Mm-hmm ... talk, talk.

620
00:24:58,208 --> 00:25:01,368
Don't jump into the first
opportunity that you have.

621
00:25:01,448 --> 00:25:06,118
Make sure you vet. Make sure that- Yes
... you know that this is the person that

622
00:25:06,158 --> 00:25:07,978
I wanna have my first experience with.

623
00:25:07,978 --> 00:25:08,068
Mm-hmm.

624
00:25:08,068 --> 00:25:10,758
It helps if you can be friends with them.

625
00:25:10,758 --> 00:25:10,898
Mm-hmm.

626
00:25:10,898 --> 00:25:15,018
It helps if you can be, uh, you know,
a, have a well-established friendship.

627
00:25:15,118 --> 00:25:15,558
Yes.

628
00:25:15,748 --> 00:25:16,648
Uh, because-

629
00:25:16,928 --> 00:25:18,508
That's really important, especially- It is

630
00:25:18,508 --> 00:25:19,228
for women.

631
00:25:19,228 --> 00:25:19,528
You're gonna have a

632
00:25:19,528 --> 00:25:20,268
better experience.

633
00:25:20,268 --> 00:25:20,478
Like,

634
00:25:20,828 --> 00:25:21,278
Yeah.

635
00:25:21,508 --> 00:25:23,878
I don't play with anybody
I'm not friends with.

636
00:25:24,348 --> 00:25:26,728
So if I haven't, like, hung out
with you- Yeah ... and chilled

637
00:25:26,728 --> 00:25:33,368
with you and I wanna know how you
are around me, around my husband.

638
00:25:33,368 --> 00:25:34,888
Like, that's just the way it is for me.

639
00:25:35,258 --> 00:25:38,348
And yeah, vet. Don't just
jump in with this first person

640
00:25:38,348 --> 00:25:40,358
that says, "Oh, yeah," um-

641
00:25:40,358 --> 00:25:40,428
Yeah.

642
00:25:40,428 --> 00:25:41,568
Newbies tend to do that often.

643
00:25:41,568 --> 00:25:41,788
Yes.

644
00:25:41,788 --> 00:25:42,838
And we did it ourselves.

645
00:25:42,888 --> 00:25:43,148
And,

646
00:25:43,178 --> 00:25:45,158
and be prepared.

647
00:25:45,838 --> 00:25:49,108
I know that you say it's hard
to get in in with women because

648
00:25:49,108 --> 00:25:50,708
you're n- it's not, actually.

649
00:25:51,008 --> 00:25:53,728
Be weary of predators.

650
00:25:53,778 --> 00:25:53,798
Yeah.

651
00:25:53,958 --> 00:25:55,698
There are... They are out there.

652
00:25:55,698 --> 00:25:57,428
Um- They are out there ... women and men.

653
00:25:57,918 --> 00:25:59,228
Don't be intoxicated.

654
00:25:59,568 --> 00:26:01,338
Try to be sober your first time.

655
00:26:02,288 --> 00:26:02,948
You know-

656
00:26:03,368 --> 00:26:04,408
Nerves are a thing.

657
00:26:04,408 --> 00:26:05,298
We understand that ... nerves
are a thing, and

658
00:26:05,298 --> 00:26:06,268
we totally get it.

659
00:26:06,268 --> 00:26:06,368
Yeah.

660
00:26:06,368 --> 00:26:10,938
And a f- a drink is cool, but you want
to experience... You want your first

661
00:26:10,938 --> 00:26:14,318
experience to be a wonderful experience,
not an experience- Yeah ... that

662
00:26:14,318 --> 00:26:17,988
you're gonna go back on and be like,
"Oh my goodness, what did I do?

663
00:26:18,018 --> 00:26:22,338
What did I say?" And
also women get feelings.

664
00:26:22,868 --> 00:26:26,388
Women get their feelings hurt
faster than men, I think,

665
00:26:26,438 --> 00:26:27,238
I don't know about that.

666
00:26:28,088 --> 00:26:31,268
I know a lot of very sensitive fellas-
I... Yeah, that's true ... who have

667
00:26:31,268 --> 00:26:37,698
spoken very openly about getting
rejected, and how it f- it fails their

668
00:26:37,698 --> 00:26:40,828
psyche and it hurts them, and they
don't know if they wanna continue.

669
00:26:41,148 --> 00:26:43,918
Trust me, men deal with this- That's
true ... just as much as women do.

670
00:26:43,918 --> 00:26:44,258
That's true.

671
00:26:44,498 --> 00:26:48,408
Um- Uh, but when it comes to
women, there's one big thing

672
00:26:48,408 --> 00:26:49,598
that you need to remember.

673
00:26:49,948 --> 00:26:54,328
There's a lot of women out there who
are, quote unquote, "bi situational,"

674
00:26:54,328 --> 00:26:58,608
and they only become bi after they've
been drinking quite a bit, or they're

675
00:26:58,608 --> 00:26:59,818
under the influence of whatever.

676
00:26:59,818 --> 00:26:59,848
Mm-hmm.

677
00:27:00,328 --> 00:27:03,188
But when they're sober, they
don't think about that at all.

678
00:27:03,188 --> 00:27:04,708
That's not an interest of theirs.

679
00:27:05,448 --> 00:27:05,478
Uh-huh.

680
00:27:05,478 --> 00:27:09,618
Those are the people you wanna kinda
watch out and be careful with because

681
00:27:10,308 --> 00:27:12,068
you may not have a great experience.

682
00:27:12,068 --> 00:27:14,098
You want somebody who's actually bisexual.

683
00:27:14,158 --> 00:27:18,138
And I mean, if you... Maybe
you can find a newbie and- Yeah

684
00:27:18,138 --> 00:27:21,868
both of y'all can venture out together
and be like, "Okay, let's try this." Ugh,

685
00:27:21,948 --> 00:27:22,238
I don't know.

686
00:27:22,568 --> 00:27:22,938
I don't know.

687
00:27:22,938 --> 00:27:23,628
I don't- I mean, why

688
00:27:23,628 --> 00:27:23,978
not?

689
00:27:23,978 --> 00:27:24,138
You

690
00:27:24,138 --> 00:27:27,988
know, finding somebody new when
you're new and going into something

691
00:27:27,988 --> 00:27:32,568
like this, um- It's easy ... it's
easy but there's no guarantee that

692
00:27:32,568 --> 00:27:33,718
you're gonna be doing it right.

693
00:27:33,748 --> 00:27:37,188
You know, y- you're still in a
learning phase, and then you're

694
00:27:37,188 --> 00:27:40,738
gonna get attached to somebody
who's also in a learning phase.

695
00:27:41,188 --> 00:27:46,218
And not only are y'all learning about
the lifestyle with your spouses, but then

696
00:27:46,218 --> 00:27:49,638
you're trying to have this new experience
with people who don't have experience.

697
00:27:49,638 --> 00:27:51,068
Hey, I think- I just don't
think it's a great idea

698
00:27:51,068 --> 00:27:51,168
I think

699
00:27:51,168 --> 00:27:52,028
it's a great idea.

700
00:27:52,098 --> 00:27:53,058
He doesn't think it's a great idea.

701
00:27:53,058 --> 00:27:53,268
No, I don't.

702
00:27:53,298 --> 00:27:53,878
I would advise against it.

703
00:27:53,878 --> 00:27:54,448
I think it's a great idea.

704
00:27:54,448 --> 00:27:57,278
Find yourself another newbie-
Mm ... and be like, "Hey, do you wanna

705
00:27:57,388 --> 00:27:58,708
figure this out together?" No way.

706
00:27:58,708 --> 00:27:59,008
Great.

707
00:27:59,748 --> 00:28:00,208
No way.

708
00:28:00,518 --> 00:28:03,568
You gotta find yourself somebody who's
experienced, who knows what they're doing.

709
00:28:03,888 --> 00:28:09,168
And knows how to sit back and go, "Look,
I'm gonna show you how this works." And

710
00:28:09,168 --> 00:28:11,948
then once you have that good experience,
you can take what you've learned from

711
00:28:11,948 --> 00:28:14,068
that and apply it to new situations.

712
00:28:14,068 --> 00:28:14,398
Or you can

713
00:28:14,398 --> 00:28:15,168
learn together.

714
00:28:15,268 --> 00:28:19,498
Yeah, but the, the problem is, is be...
If you're learning together and you

715
00:28:19,498 --> 00:28:23,858
get the wrong information, then you've
got two couples who are doing the

716
00:28:24,038 --> 00:28:26,488
wrong thing You know what I'm saying?

717
00:28:26,528 --> 00:28:27,878
It's just- I mean- I'm sorry.

718
00:28:27,878 --> 00:28:29,458
Agree to disagree ... I say, I say
y'all can navigate together ... but

719
00:28:29,458 --> 00:28:32,028
I do not agree with that
whatsoever So you have choices.

720
00:28:32,028 --> 00:28:32,618
No, no.

721
00:28:32,618 --> 00:28:33,278
You know what?

722
00:28:33,568 --> 00:28:37,628
If I'm blind, I'm not gonna ask another
blind person to walk me across the street.

723
00:28:37,658 --> 00:28:38,708
You understand what I'm saying there?

724
00:28:39,028 --> 00:28:41,458
So do yourself a favor.

725
00:28:41,458 --> 00:28:41,758
This is different.

726
00:28:41,758 --> 00:28:46,118
Find yourself a seeing eye dog and
walk down that street confidently

727
00:28:46,458 --> 00:28:49,568
because you know that somebody's
leading you in the right direction.

728
00:28:49,988 --> 00:28:50,278
You know?

729
00:28:50,278 --> 00:28:51,598
That's what it comes down to.

730
00:28:51,648 --> 00:28:53,168
But hey, agree to disagree.

731
00:28:53,478 --> 00:28:53,678
Yes.

732
00:28:53,678 --> 00:28:54,298
You know what I mean?

733
00:28:54,628 --> 00:28:57,988
Um, you know, when it comes to women,
there I, I remember you experienced

734
00:28:57,988 --> 00:29:04,868
quite a bit the problem of you would put
yourself out there for women, and you

735
00:29:04,868 --> 00:29:08,418
would express how you're very bisexual,
and you love women, and you're interested,

736
00:29:08,418 --> 00:29:09,268
and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

737
00:29:10,098 --> 00:29:14,688
And a lot of women- Nobody ... a lot of
women would be too scared to say anything.

738
00:29:14,688 --> 00:29:15,128
Mm-hmm.

739
00:29:15,558 --> 00:29:16,538
They wanted to.

740
00:29:16,718 --> 00:29:19,438
But they refused to say anything-
Mm-hmm ... because they don't wanna

741
00:29:19,438 --> 00:29:23,008
put themselves out there to get
hurt or have awkward conversations.

742
00:29:23,008 --> 00:29:23,698
Let me tell you something.

743
00:29:23,728 --> 00:29:28,488
The only way you're gonna get
what you want in this life is to

744
00:29:28,488 --> 00:29:30,278
open your mouth and say the words.

745
00:29:30,408 --> 00:29:30,568
Yep.

746
00:29:30,638 --> 00:29:31,738
Closed mouth don't get fed.

747
00:29:31,738 --> 00:29:32,228
You know what I mean?

748
00:29:32,498 --> 00:29:36,328
So definitely be vocal when you're ready.

749
00:29:36,938 --> 00:29:37,738
Be vocal.

750
00:29:38,108 --> 00:29:42,978
Be prepared to be rejected
because it's a finicky situation.

751
00:29:43,008 --> 00:29:43,118
It

752
00:29:43,118 --> 00:29:43,618
is.

753
00:29:43,708 --> 00:29:47,968
But also take your time and
find exactly what you want.

754
00:29:48,108 --> 00:29:50,898
And when you're ready, I
think it'll all work out.

755
00:29:51,018 --> 00:29:52,228
Yeah, it will.

756
00:29:52,418 --> 00:29:52,698
Yeah.

757
00:29:52,928 --> 00:29:55,098
So I mean, that's, that's what I think.

758
00:29:56,908 --> 00:29:57,238
I don't know.

759
00:29:57,668 --> 00:29:59,838
I mean, you answered
them all, so you're good.

760
00:29:59,888 --> 00:30:01,518
You answered it all, so yeah, no.

761
00:30:01,518 --> 00:30:03,798
I mean, that's pretty much
everything right there.

762
00:30:03,798 --> 00:30:03,908
Yeah.

763
00:30:03,908 --> 00:30:07,268
That's, that... 'Cause there was so many
different questions in that one statement.

764
00:30:07,268 --> 00:30:08,918
There's so many different places to hit.

765
00:30:09,058 --> 00:30:09,368
Yeah.

766
00:30:09,558 --> 00:30:13,178
And, you know, being
new is very difficult.

767
00:30:13,498 --> 00:30:14,438
It's very scary.

768
00:30:14,478 --> 00:30:15,218
It's scary.

769
00:30:15,218 --> 00:30:15,458
Mm-hmm.

770
00:30:15,488 --> 00:30:15,968
It is scary.

771
00:30:15,968 --> 00:30:16,298
It's very

772
00:30:16,298 --> 00:30:16,838
intimidating too.

773
00:30:16,838 --> 00:30:17,098
You're not

774
00:30:17,098 --> 00:30:19,618
used to having- You- ... those
uncomfortable conversations.

775
00:30:19,618 --> 00:30:19,748
Yeah,

776
00:30:19,748 --> 00:30:24,868
and it's a very intimidating situation
because you have to go in and make friends

777
00:30:24,868 --> 00:30:29,788
with people, and like Adam said, you don't
know who's gonna accept you and who's not.

778
00:30:30,258 --> 00:30:31,238
But you have to try.

779
00:30:31,988 --> 00:30:32,418
Try.

780
00:30:32,648 --> 00:30:33,198
You just gotta try.

781
00:30:33,198 --> 00:30:33,468
You gotta try.

782
00:30:33,468 --> 00:30:36,218
You jump in there and figure it out,
and try to... Not jump in there and

783
00:30:36,218 --> 00:30:39,268
figure it out, but jump in there
and start communicating with people.

784
00:30:39,698 --> 00:30:46,383
There's a lot of, a lot of different areas
you can start, a lot of different- Groups.

785
00:30:46,633 --> 00:30:47,023
So-

786
00:30:47,893 --> 00:30:48,203
Yeah ... I

787
00:30:48,203 --> 00:30:49,083
think you got this.

788
00:30:49,143 --> 00:30:50,283
Yeah, I think so, too.

789
00:30:50,283 --> 00:30:54,053
And yeah, you know, if you're looking
to find experienced people, there

790
00:30:54,183 --> 00:30:59,533
are good experienced people that are
willing to, uh, give newbies a chance.

791
00:30:59,573 --> 00:30:59,983
We are.

792
00:31:00,393 --> 00:31:03,313
We're the, we're that couple that
we wanna make sure that... we

793
00:31:03,313 --> 00:31:05,583
don't purposefully go for newbies.

794
00:31:05,613 --> 00:31:05,673
Yeah.

795
00:31:05,943 --> 00:31:09,303
But when they, when, when we come
across and there's a connection,

796
00:31:09,303 --> 00:31:10,443
there's a good vibe- Mm-hmm

797
00:31:10,553 --> 00:31:12,083
it doesn't turn us off that they're new.

798
00:31:12,083 --> 00:31:12,453
Uh-uh.

799
00:31:12,483 --> 00:31:15,873
We basically tell them, "Look, we're
going to go at your pace." Mm-hmm.

800
00:31:16,023 --> 00:31:20,313
"We're going to inform you about
everything. We're gonna communicate 100%,

801
00:31:20,593 --> 00:31:24,193
and when you guys are ready, we're gonna
do our best to give you the best- Mm-hmm

802
00:31:24,193 --> 00:31:25,493
... first experience that you can." Mm-hmm.

803
00:31:25,533 --> 00:31:28,213
And there are several couples
that are out there like that.

804
00:31:28,863 --> 00:31:32,403
There are also several couples like
Pris said that are predatory, and

805
00:31:32,403 --> 00:31:35,013
as soon as they find out you're
new, they're gonna be all over you.

806
00:31:35,063 --> 00:31:35,173
Yeah.

807
00:31:35,243 --> 00:31:38,553
And they're gonna make you look like,
"Oh, this is gonna be great. You're

808
00:31:38,553 --> 00:31:42,243
gonna have a great time," but really
they're just out there to either

809
00:31:42,303 --> 00:31:46,103
take control of you and claim you for
their own or to use you- Oh, my God.

810
00:31:46,103 --> 00:31:48,423
Don't do that ... and leave you- Don't
let them do that ... or whatever.

811
00:31:48,423 --> 00:31:50,193
There's all sort... We've seen it.

812
00:31:50,233 --> 00:31:50,743
Yes.

813
00:31:50,783 --> 00:31:51,303
We've seen it.

814
00:31:51,443 --> 00:31:51,653
Yes.

815
00:31:51,813 --> 00:31:57,843
Uh, yeah just know that you can hear
one thing and you can see another.

816
00:31:57,923 --> 00:31:59,223
And it's not always the case.

817
00:31:59,263 --> 00:31:59,333
Yeah.

818
00:31:59,333 --> 00:31:59,773
Just be careful.

819
00:32:00,103 --> 00:32:00,193
Yeah.

820
00:32:00,193 --> 00:32:00,913
Just watch yourself.

821
00:32:01,733 --> 00:32:08,563
Uh, so to our friend wandering aimlessly,
first of all, thank you genuinely because

822
00:32:08,563 --> 00:32:12,393
I promise you there are 100 couples
listening to this right now who have just

823
00:32:12,443 --> 00:32:16,323
exhaled because somebody finally said
the thing that they've been thinking.

824
00:32:16,623 --> 00:32:18,383
Yeah, you're not alone in this at all.

825
00:32:18,763 --> 00:32:19,953
No, not even a little bit.

826
00:32:20,133 --> 00:32:21,493
The jealousy is real.

827
00:32:21,733 --> 00:32:22,793
The curiosity is real.

828
00:32:22,793 --> 00:32:25,093
The feeling of being
lost, absolutely real.

829
00:32:25,663 --> 00:32:26,323
But here's the thing.

830
00:32:26,563 --> 00:32:28,253
You're not actually wandering aimlessly.

831
00:32:28,283 --> 00:32:30,293
You are asking the right questions.

832
00:32:30,433 --> 00:32:33,133
You're communicating, and
that's the big part of all this.

833
00:32:33,443 --> 00:32:36,783
That puts you miles ahead of the people
who have been in this lifestyle for years

834
00:32:36,783 --> 00:32:38,133
and still haven't figured that part out.

835
00:32:38,333 --> 00:32:38,533
Yeah.

836
00:32:38,853 --> 00:32:41,403
And if you ever wanna talk to us
directly or at least drop something

837
00:32:41,403 --> 00:32:43,183
on our lap, you know where to find us.

838
00:32:43,183 --> 00:32:43,733
That's right.

839
00:32:44,023 --> 00:32:48,403
Head to www.beyond-monogamy.com
and drop your own confessional.

840
00:32:49,003 --> 00:32:52,943
It is 100% anonymous, zero
judgment, and you might just

841
00:32:52,943 --> 00:32:54,263
end up on a quickie of your own.

842
00:32:54,543 --> 00:32:54,803
Yeah.

843
00:32:54,953 --> 00:32:56,663
And everything else we do is there, too.

844
00:32:57,133 --> 00:33:00,453
Full episodes, our quickies,
our blog, video clips, our guest

845
00:33:00,453 --> 00:33:03,033
lineup, merch, and our event tab.

846
00:33:03,073 --> 00:33:06,283
It's all right there
at beyond-monogamy.com.

847
00:33:06,313 --> 00:33:06,533
Yeah.

848
00:33:06,533 --> 00:33:07,283
That's your home base.

849
00:33:07,323 --> 00:33:07,893
That's right.

850
00:33:08,163 --> 00:33:12,343
Now, speaking of events- If you're
anywhere near San Antonio, Texas, or

851
00:33:12,343 --> 00:33:15,753
even if you're just willing to make
the drive, we're gonna be live and

852
00:33:15,753 --> 00:33:17,903
in person at Club Eden on June 20th.

853
00:33:18,493 --> 00:33:21,703
This is your shot to come hang out
with me and Pris in real life in

854
00:33:21,703 --> 00:33:23,853
the lifestyle doing what we do.

855
00:33:24,133 --> 00:33:24,383
Yeah.

856
00:33:24,383 --> 00:33:24,423
And

857
00:33:24,483 --> 00:33:25,153
we do a lot.

858
00:33:25,473 --> 00:33:27,793
And you will need a
membership at Club Eden.

859
00:33:28,063 --> 00:33:29,133
You have to get in like that.

860
00:33:29,133 --> 00:33:29,823
That's the way you have to do it.

861
00:33:29,823 --> 00:33:30,223
This is the way it is.

862
00:33:30,223 --> 00:33:32,973
You get on their little website
and you do their little things.

863
00:33:33,273 --> 00:33:33,333
Yeah.

864
00:33:33,363 --> 00:33:36,593
All the details are on the event
tab at beyond-monogamy.com.

865
00:33:37,323 --> 00:33:37,923
Yes.

866
00:33:37,923 --> 00:33:38,363
Get on it.

867
00:33:38,363 --> 00:33:39,073
Get on it.

868
00:33:39,653 --> 00:33:41,463
And if you can't make it out
to San Antonio, you can at

869
00:33:41,463 --> 00:33:45,273
least catch us streaming every
Thursday on fullswapradio.com.

870
00:33:45,353 --> 00:33:48,653
Two shows, 2:00 PM and 7:00 PM Central.

871
00:33:49,253 --> 00:33:50,713
Come hang out with us live.

872
00:33:50,743 --> 00:33:55,053
There is a fantastic lineup of
podcasters over there in the adult

873
00:33:55,053 --> 00:33:57,003
space, and it is a great time.

874
00:33:57,093 --> 00:33:57,973
It really is.

875
00:33:58,013 --> 00:33:58,363
Yeah.

876
00:33:59,123 --> 00:34:01,743
Now, we also wanna put this
out on your radar right now.

877
00:34:01,743 --> 00:34:04,433
I know it's far in advance,
because this is gonna sell

878
00:34:04,433 --> 00:34:05,643
out, so you wanna jump on this.

879
00:34:05,963 --> 00:34:10,943
Crazy Winter Nights, it's a full-blown
lifestyle event taking place in

880
00:34:10,943 --> 00:34:15,773
Kansas City, Missouri, February
19th through the 21st of 2027.

881
00:34:15,773 --> 00:34:16,083
Mm-hmm,

882
00:34:16,683 --> 00:34:17,303
and we're gonna be there.

883
00:34:17,303 --> 00:34:17,753
Yes,

884
00:34:17,753 --> 00:34:19,183
we are, with bells on.

885
00:34:19,493 --> 00:34:21,583
We will be there in
the flesh, so to speak.

886
00:34:22,253 --> 00:34:24,803
So if you wanna come out, meet
us, connect with people in this

887
00:34:24,803 --> 00:34:29,143
community, and actually stop wandering
aimlessly, this is one of those events

888
00:34:29,143 --> 00:34:30,293
that will change the game for you.

889
00:34:30,633 --> 00:34:35,353
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890
00:34:35,753 --> 00:34:36,933
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891
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892
00:34:43,613 --> 00:34:44,913
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893
00:34:45,523 --> 00:34:48,053
All the information will
be at fullswapradio.com.

894
00:34:48,053 --> 00:34:49,973
Go check it out and
grab your tickets early.

895
00:34:50,223 --> 00:34:52,443
And wherever you're listening
to right now, Spotify, Apple

896
00:34:52,513 --> 00:34:55,503
Podcasts, YouTube, please hit
that follow and subscribe button.

897
00:34:55,913 --> 00:34:57,373
Leave us a review, people.

898
00:34:57,543 --> 00:34:57,693
Yes.

899
00:34:57,693 --> 00:34:59,673
Share this episode with
someone who needs it.

900
00:34:59,933 --> 00:35:00,033
Mm-hmm.

901
00:35:00,033 --> 00:35:01,883
You know exactly who that person is.

902
00:35:01,883 --> 00:35:02,083
Yeah.

903
00:35:02,193 --> 00:35:02,763
I know I do.

904
00:35:03,393 --> 00:35:07,183
Those things take 30 seconds, and
they mean everything to us, I swear.

905
00:35:07,223 --> 00:35:07,963
It doesn't take that long.

906
00:35:08,293 --> 00:35:09,363
They help us grow.

907
00:35:09,363 --> 00:35:12,943
They help us reach more people like
wandering aimlessly who just needed

908
00:35:12,943 --> 00:35:14,293
to know that they're not alone.

909
00:35:14,463 --> 00:35:14,633
Yeah.

910
00:35:14,633 --> 00:35:15,783
You're never alone over here.

911
00:35:15,873 --> 00:35:17,173
That's right, never.

912
00:35:17,803 --> 00:35:19,953
Anyways, with that, thank you
guys for listening, and as

913
00:35:19,953 --> 00:35:21,773
always, we will see you next week.

914
00:35:22,223 --> 00:35:22,473
Bye.

915
00:35:22,503 --> 00:35:23,033
Oh,