What Makes Someone Slutty? A Swinger Couple Reclaims the S-Word

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All right, y'all.

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counselors, or sex couches.

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Not sex couches

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We're just a couple of people sharing
our lives, experiences, and sexy

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adventures in ethical non-monogamy.

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So with that, pull up a
chair and enjoy the show

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Hello and welcome to another
episode of Beyond Monogamy.

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I'm Adam.

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And I'm Pris, and on today's
Wednesday quickie, we're

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gonna talk about sluttiness.

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Sluttiness.

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The sluts.

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Sluts.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You know, there was a time when we
were growing up where if somebody

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called somebody else a slut-

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Uh-huh

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…
it was a horrible, horrible thing.

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Yeah.

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Um, I-

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I was called a slut once.

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Were you?

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And I

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laughed.

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When was the first time
that you were called a slut?

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Do you remember when
you were called a slut?

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Um, yeah, it was sixth grade
maybe, that I can remember.

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Sixth

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grade?

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Yeah, so I liked-

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What

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the fuck?

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I had this boyfriend.

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Talk about obsession.

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Oh, yeah.

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We just saw Obsession last night.

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Oh my gosh.

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Yeah, um, I mean, how far do you want
me to, how deep do you want me to go?

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Go deep, girl.

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Okay, so I had this

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boyfriend-

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Balls deep

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when I was in sixth grade, right?

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All right.

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His name was, um- You
want me tell you his name?

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No, we don't need the name.

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I have

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his whole name.

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Like, I know him.

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I

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mean, uh, so you can use a first name.

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You don't have to use-
Okay … a whole name 'cause-

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Was Nathan.

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And Nath- All right, Nathan … I
was, like, in love with Nathan.

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Like, that's little sixth grade, "Oh my
God." "He's gonna be the one." And let

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me tell you that I had- Could be the
one … bad taste in guys back… Like-

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Back then,

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huh?

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… this right here is the hottest
man I have ever been with.

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Oh, thank you.

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And-

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You could do better.

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I do know.

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Like, ugh, my goodness.

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Ugh.

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Anyway.

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Sluttiness.

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Um, anyway, so yeah.

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So I, I remember he broke up with me
'cause he wanted to be with another girl,

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and I was like, "Oh, fuck no." And then
I went up to this table to tell the girl

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off, and this girl, she called me a slut.

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And I remember kicking her ass
or just, like, pushing her.

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She fell, and I was like,
"Well, that was easy."

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But yeah, like, she called me a slut.

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Ooh, I was also called a slut
as a freshman by some guy 'cause

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I wouldn't give it up to him.

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He's like, "You're such a slut."
I said, "Mm, am I though?"

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How does that work out?

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Guys, they b- guys knew what to say
to hurt a girl's feelings, and I

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remember that I wasn't that girl.

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You couldn't hurt my feelings.

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Didn't work, didn't work.

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What you did was piss me off.

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It's still-

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And- … kind of

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the same

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…
um, I guess so.

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Well, hurt feelings, I would,
like, be like, "Oh," inside myself.

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Um, names are just names.

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But yeah, uh, and it was always a guy.

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Mm.

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The girl, of course, because I
didn't… I wanted to take…

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She got Nathan away from me, and I was
like, "Oh, my God." Um, but other than

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that, I wasn't very easy to be a slut.

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You weren't easy.

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What's funny is- No … I've heard you
tell stories ab- uh, like you were easy.

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Uh, but you were not easy.

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No.

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Y- your idea of being easy back then-
No … was you had a lot of boyfriends-

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Yeah

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that you would maybe,
possibly, occasionally kiss.

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Maybe.

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Maybe.

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Uh, that, that- Slut

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does not make- And not by lack of wanting.

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I wanted to kiss these guys

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Yeah

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…
but I guess just being young,
being embarrassed, they had…

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They were teenagers too, so it
was- Yeah … you know, that

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scaredness and the rejection feeling.

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Yeah, yeah.

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But yeah, I mean, that was my
sluttiness, that I had boyfriends.

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I had hoes in different zip codes.

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Come on.

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Yeah.

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I had one every high school.

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Wow.

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There were some I didn't even see.

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Like, they were just,
like, my phone boyfriends.

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It's funny, you know, when we're younger-

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um, you know, like high school age
even into some of college age, we

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associate sluttiness with, oh, well,
they're talking to a lot of people.

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They're just talking to a lot of people.

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We don't know if there's any sexual
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they're talking to a lot of people.

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Obviously, as we've gotten older,
we've realized that's not sluttiness.

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That's actually, non-monogamy.

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Yeah.

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that's- I mean-

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I mean, that's, uh, that's what it

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comes

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down

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to … and we've talked about this.

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We've talked about, like, what,
um- What makes a person slutty?

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Well, y- you and I have talked about
it, but let's revisit that because what,

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what exactly makes a person slutty?

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I

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had- In, in your opinion

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…
in my opinion, it's a person who,
just not thinking as a non-monogamist,

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just thinking- Sure, sure … as a
regular monogamous vanilla person.

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Right.

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It would be a person that fucks a lot
of different people just for the fun

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of it, and she's very loose and slutty.

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Just for the fun of it.

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Yeah, which is s- so dumb.

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Which I mean-

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One,

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because- … what, what are the two,
what are the reasons to have sex?

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Sex is fucking fun.

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Either to procreate or-

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Exactly

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…
to have a good time.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Sex is fun, and having lots of different
sexual partners is fun and amazing.

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Yeah.

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But think vanilla.

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Yeah.

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That, because the word vani-
that's a, that's a vanilla word.

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What does it even mean?

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I don't know.

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You know, the first time that
I had ever heard it, I was

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like five or six years old.

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Yeah.

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I got in so much trouble for
calling one of my sisters a slut.

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Uh, yeah.

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I, but I didn't know what it meant.

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I had seen on television, we
had HBO, and they referred to

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somebody as a barnyard slut.

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I thought it had something
to do with being a farmer.

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And I called my oldest sister
a slut at the dinner table.

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Hey, I called my little
sister a pig's dropping.

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Well, that's on a different-

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You little pig's dropping.

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That's,

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That's, that's a pig

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poop … that's not slut, though.

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I mean, come on.

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Let's, let's be real here.

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No, like you didn't know what it was.

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No, I had no idea what it was.

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Yeah.

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But I called her that at the table.

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And then of course, like, uh, I think
there was a tagline in, uh, Saturday Night

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Live's when Chevy Chase did the, the news.

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Uh.

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And he was like, "Jane, you ignorant
slut." Or no, that was Dan Aykroyd.

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But anyways, uh, so it
was said- Yeah … on TV.

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Yeah.

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But I didn't know what it meant.

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I mean- You know?

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… it's, it's such a, I don't know.

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It's a word that just, I mean, women
get upset when they're called bitches.

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Women get upset when they're called hoes.

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Women get upset when they're called
any name other than their name, right?

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Um- I'm very…

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I don't get my feelings hurt if it's
in nobody I don't care about, so.

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Okay.

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What

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does slut mean, babies?

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Per Merriam-Webster's dictionary,
slut is typically an offensive

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derogatory term used to shame a
woman who is perceived as sexually

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promiscuous or having loose morals.

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There you go.

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Historically dating back to the 1400s.

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Yeah.

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It originally meant an untidy,
dirty, or slovenly woman.

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Wow.

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Now, why woman?

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Why woman?

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Why woman?

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That's- And what's the term for man?

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That's, that's, that's exactly what it is.

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Like, um, just man.

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Just man.

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And we'll get into that, uh, later on.

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Yeah.

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'Cause I wanted to get into the
double standards of it, but-

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Yeah

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you know, that is the
official definition of slut.

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And o- obviously, you know, from
the moment it started, it carried

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a negative weight towards women.

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Um, and I, uh, we, in this
current position that we're

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in, we, we, we celebrate sluts.

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We

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praise that.

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We celebrate sluts.

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You go, sluts.

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Like- Uh, you know, honestly- Bing

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uh, i- by, by definition, if you change
that to person instead of woman, you

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could say I'm, I'm s- a slut all the way.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I mean, I, 100%.

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Uh, obviously- I

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thrive to be a slut.

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So you are not slutty.

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I am not.

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Um, but w- and we've talked about this
because we, she had brought it up to me.

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I, I, I have this, you know,
I- if you've listened to past

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shows, I have a hot wife kink.

261
00:08:10,643 --> 00:08:10,763
Yeah.

262
00:08:10,803 --> 00:08:15,263
Um, I, I have a consented cheating kink.

263
00:08:15,263 --> 00:08:20,583
Mm. Um, so the thought of her being out
there with somebody else and she just

264
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can't take anymore, she decides she wants
to have fun or do whatever she wants

265
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freely, uh, and then comes back to tell
me about it, I find that very, very hot.

266
00:08:29,213 --> 00:08:29,563
Yeah.

267
00:08:29,853 --> 00:08:31,383
Um, I think that's incredible.

268
00:08:31,623 --> 00:08:35,473
But the problem is, is that my
wife doesn't do so willingly.

269
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Like, um, it, it's not
really in her personality.

270
00:08:39,563 --> 00:08:39,663
Yeah.

271
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You're, you're not a
slutty person naturally.

272
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No, I am

273
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not.

274
00:08:42,443 --> 00:08:43,483
I'm not, um-

275
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Which is amazing 'cause I when I first
saw you after so many years and I was

276
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hanging out with, with you, and stories
were being traded very quickly- Yeah

277
00:08:53,583 --> 00:08:57,133
about very slutty behavior from your past.

278
00:08:57,173 --> 00:08:57,473
Yes.

279
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And I was like, "Geez-" I

280
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drank a lot

281
00:08:59,743 --> 00:09:02,873
…
this is… Well, so that's, that, that's
interesting that you mention that.

282
00:09:03,293 --> 00:09:10,773
Uh, because oftentimes alcohol,
when it's injected into… A-

283
00:09:10,813 --> 00:09:12,803
and this is lifestyle or vanilla.

284
00:09:12,843 --> 00:09:13,213
Yeah.

285
00:09:13,263 --> 00:09:16,973
When it's injected into a good
time at a bar- Yeah … or with

286
00:09:16,983 --> 00:09:21,373
a group of friends or whatever,
um, things get a little bit loose.

287
00:09:21,423 --> 00:09:21,723
Yeah.

288
00:09:21,763 --> 00:09:22,883
People get a little bit loose.

289
00:09:22,893 --> 00:09:24,693
Kisses- Your
inhibitions … start to happen.

290
00:09:24,703 --> 00:09:25,943
Inhibitions drop.

291
00:09:26,023 --> 00:09:26,363
Yeah.

292
00:09:26,403 --> 00:09:30,163
Um, in vanilla world, when
threesomes happen, it usually

293
00:09:30,163 --> 00:09:31,973
happens under the influence.

294
00:09:31,983 --> 00:09:34,143
When a girl first kisses
a girl, it's usually under

295
00:09:34,143 --> 00:09:34,575
the influence.

296
00:09:34,575 --> 00:09:34,903
Under the influence, yeah.

297
00:09:34,903 --> 00:09:35,013
I

298
00:09:35,013 --> 00:09:36,953
Um … for me, it was under,
I was under the influence.

299
00:09:37,193 --> 00:09:37,523
Yeah.

300
00:09:37,523 --> 00:09:42,553
You know, I'm kinda curious because
obviously alcohol helps along

301
00:09:42,633 --> 00:09:44,883
slutty behavior, good or bad.

302
00:09:44,993 --> 00:09:45,243
Yeah.

303
00:09:45,263 --> 00:09:49,303
Um, so if you're monogamous and you're
drinking alcohol and you're going to a

304
00:09:49,303 --> 00:09:51,373
club, well, hey, something might happen.

305
00:09:51,803 --> 00:09:55,563
Uh, if you're in the lifestyle and you
go to a club and you get, get a little,

306
00:09:55,613 --> 00:09:58,093
uh, drinky drinky, uh, well, hey-

307
00:09:58,153 --> 00:09:59,263
something might happen.

308
00:09:59,583 --> 00:10:02,833
Um, but I'm curious, how about weed?

309
00:10:02,963 --> 00:10:05,690
Does, does weed have that
same effect, do you think?

310
00:10:05,690 --> 00:10:05,983
Not for me.

311
00:10:05,983 --> 00:10:06,263
No?

312
00:10:06,313 --> 00:10:06,923
Not for you?

313
00:10:07,303 --> 00:10:07,323
No.

314
00:10:07,323 --> 00:10:08,783
Mm-mm.

315
00:10:08,793 --> 00:10:08,933
Oh, that's interesting.

316
00:10:09,433 --> 00:10:09,663
Not, it wasn't- 'Cause you

317
00:10:10,213 --> 00:10:11,363
used to tell me differently-

318
00:10:11,363 --> 00:10:14,903
So weed- … back in the day I, so
there's some weed… No, I didn't really

319
00:10:14,903 --> 00:10:18,193
Well, so I r- so I remember you
specifically telling me, this is way

320
00:10:18,193 --> 00:10:20,663
before we partook, if that's a word.

321
00:10:20,783 --> 00:10:21,173
Uh-huh.

322
00:10:21,173 --> 00:10:22,153
Partook, partaken.

323
00:10:22,553 --> 00:10:22,593
Uh-huh.

324
00:10:22,603 --> 00:10:28,173
Um, but way before this was even our
thing, we were s- we were dating.

325
00:10:28,293 --> 00:10:28,533
Uh-huh.

326
00:10:28,583 --> 00:10:31,963
And we were talking about how I was
an incredible pothead in high school.

327
00:10:32,333 --> 00:10:35,603
Um, and you had- I s- that I
smoked … you had let me know that

328
00:10:36,053 --> 00:10:40,873
the few times that you had smoked,
you ended up, like, sleeping.

329
00:10:41,023 --> 00:10:41,843
Like, it, it- So-

330
00:10:41,853 --> 00:10:42,863
it turned you on and you-

331
00:10:42,873 --> 00:10:43,813
I don't remember-

332
00:10:43,823 --> 00:10:44,453
…
would fool around and-

333
00:10:44,503 --> 00:10:47,423
Yeah, the first time I kinda
remember, but not really.

334
00:10:47,743 --> 00:10:51,733
But the second time I smoked, I was
smogging out with my cousins at my

335
00:10:51,863 --> 00:10:56,173
sister's wedding, and that's when
I have my, my two night stands.

336
00:10:56,263 --> 00:10:57,783
My two one- Yeah … night stands.

337
00:10:57,803 --> 00:10:58,893
My two night stands.

338
00:10:58,973 --> 00:10:59,193
Yeah.

339
00:10:59,193 --> 00:10:59,253
One on the

340
00:10:59,253 --> 00:10:59,483
left

341
00:10:59,483 --> 00:10:59,819
and one on the right.

342
00:10:59,819 --> 00:11:00,583
That was so slutty.

343
00:11:00,593 --> 00:11:02,043
That was not because of weed.

344
00:11:02,043 --> 00:11:03,693
That was totally because of alcohol.

345
00:11:03,723 --> 00:11:04,023
Yeah?

346
00:11:04,193 --> 00:11:05,643
Oh, I was so plastered.

347
00:11:05,713 --> 00:11:06,013
Yeah.

348
00:11:06,013 --> 00:11:06,483
So

349
00:11:06,483 --> 00:11:06,853
plastered.

350
00:11:07,173 --> 00:11:10,623
Yeah, w- and that, that w- those
were the stories that I was-

351
00:11:10,633 --> 00:11:12,713
Yeah … tossed the first time that
I'd seen you after so many years.

352
00:11:12,723 --> 00:11:16,253
No, I mean, I do weed now,
and I, I'm not slutty.

353
00:11:16,533 --> 00:11:17,643
I do the pot now.

354
00:11:17,653 --> 00:11:18,873
I do the pot now.

355
00:11:18,893 --> 00:11:19,243
Um-

356
00:11:19,443 --> 00:11:20,263
And I am not slutty at

357
00:11:20,263 --> 00:11:20,283
all.

358
00:11:20,283 --> 00:11:22,613
Well, you said something different
about the buddies that you drink.

359
00:11:22,613 --> 00:11:23,163
So

360
00:11:23,523 --> 00:11:24,073
I- That your little tea that you drink

361
00:11:24,073 --> 00:11:25,603
…
they lower my inhibitions.

362
00:11:25,613 --> 00:11:28,283
I will tell you, I smoke flower.

363
00:11:28,343 --> 00:11:30,063
That does not lower my inhibitions.

364
00:11:30,623 --> 00:11:34,273
There is a gummy that a friend
gave Adam for his birthday that he

365
00:11:34,273 --> 00:11:40,113
quartered for me, and that kind of
made me, like, ooh, that sensation.

366
00:11:40,123 --> 00:11:40,143
Yeah.

367
00:11:40,473 --> 00:11:41,853
It was hot.

368
00:11:41,853 --> 00:11:47,293
And then, um, buddies for some
reason, they kinda make me feel,

369
00:11:47,293 --> 00:11:48,573
they, uh, they make me loose.

370
00:11:48,603 --> 00:11:49,213
They make you loose?

371
00:11:49,263 --> 00:11:53,823
They kinda make you feel like- Like
you drank a little, but a high.

372
00:11:53,873 --> 00:11:54,533
Yeah, yeah.

373
00:11:54,533 --> 00:11:56,703
So it's all over, it's
a body high for sure.

374
00:11:56,733 --> 00:11:56,833
Sure.

375
00:11:56,843 --> 00:11:58,463
And oh my gosh, it is so hot.

376
00:11:58,723 --> 00:11:59,613
That's interesting.

377
00:11:59,613 --> 00:11:59,933
Yeah.

378
00:12:00,213 --> 00:12:03,783
Uh, you know, I, I don't think
any substance that I've ever

379
00:12:03,783 --> 00:12:06,993
taken, whether it be alcohol or
weed, has- ever made me horny.

380
00:12:07,223 --> 00:12:09,163
But primarily because
I'm just horny naturally.

381
00:12:09,173 --> 00:12:09,653
Yeah.

382
00:12:09,713 --> 00:12:11,203
Um, I remember-

383
00:12:11,543 --> 00:12:12,443
You a slut, baby

384
00:12:12,473 --> 00:12:15,353
…
I, well, you know, if I could've been
a slut in high school, I would have.

385
00:12:15,423 --> 00:12:17,813
If I could have been a slut
in college, I would have.

386
00:12:18,313 --> 00:12:18,688
Um- Well,

387
00:12:18,688 --> 00:12:19,333
you could be a slut now

388
00:12:19,353 --> 00:12:20,513
…
I tried, guys.

389
00:12:20,543 --> 00:12:21,193
I tried.

390
00:12:21,473 --> 00:12:23,643
Um, I associated with sluts.

391
00:12:24,243 --> 00:12:27,203
Um, I hung around people
who were promiscuous.

392
00:12:27,213 --> 00:12:27,233
Yeah.

393
00:12:27,253 --> 00:12:33,823
And, um, while I didn't make those friends
purposefully, I did have it in the back

394
00:12:33,823 --> 00:12:37,203
of my head that, hey, it doesn't hurt to
have a, a, a good slutty friend or two.

395
00:12:37,583 --> 00:12:40,133
Uh, I never, ever got it- No … at all.

396
00:12:40,433 --> 00:12:43,040
Um, but- it, well, 'cause
I was very respectful.

397
00:12:43,100 --> 00:12:43,310
Yeah.

398
00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:47,480
And had I, you know, been
that guy to be a little bit

399
00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:48,960
forceful, I'm sure I could have.

400
00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:50,930
Um, but that, that's never been my way.

401
00:12:50,940 --> 00:12:52,180
I'm just not that guy- Yeah … you know?

402
00:12:52,180 --> 00:12:53,930
And, and looking at it now- You
just … it seems disrespectful

403
00:12:53,930 --> 00:12:55,070
…
and you never shamed them.

404
00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:55,100
No.

405
00:12:55,430 --> 00:12:57,450
You were like, "You're
cool." Yeah, you're that guy.

406
00:12:57,500 --> 00:12:57,780
No.

407
00:12:57,780 --> 00:13:01,760
I remember calling women
sluts and bitches and hoes.

408
00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:02,190
Yeah.

409
00:13:02,270 --> 00:13:02,660
Yeah.

410
00:13:02,670 --> 00:13:04,800
Especially, I mean, that's,
those are our go-to words.

411
00:13:04,820 --> 00:13:07,780
Those are our go-to-
Yeah … to phrases, you know?

412
00:13:08,020 --> 00:13:08,380
Uh, y- you

413
00:13:08,380 --> 00:13:09,940
have- You fucking whore, you fucking slut.

414
00:13:09,940 --> 00:13:12,870
Especially if the girl wronged you, right?

415
00:13:12,870 --> 00:13:15,730
Like, you're gonna be
like, "You fucking slut."

416
00:13:16,450 --> 00:13:16,960
You know, it,

417
00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:18,400
Because she slept with your husband.

418
00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:26,420
I, I think a, a lot of, uh, a lot of times
that word gets tossed around and and- Yeah

419
00:13:26,420 --> 00:13:27,900
pretty much incorrectly so.

420
00:13:27,930 --> 00:13:28,140
Yeah.

421
00:13:28,210 --> 00:13:29,150
Oh, for sure.

422
00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:29,520
Yeah.

423
00:13:29,850 --> 00:13:33,040
Now, we're in the lifestyle-
Yeah … obviously.

424
00:13:33,090 --> 00:13:36,100
And like I said, between the two of
us, I'm more slutty than you are.

425
00:13:36,110 --> 00:13:36,130
Um-

426
00:13:36,390 --> 00:13:38,700
In my mind, I am a hoe and a half.

427
00:13:38,730 --> 00:13:40,320
And this is something
that we've talked about.

428
00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,710
Now understand that this is a
conversation that we have at home very

429
00:13:43,710 --> 00:13:45,900
openly, uh, between my wife and I.

430
00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:50,880
Uh, but like I said, I'm a fan of
consented cheating, and we do have

431
00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,540
these discussions, um, in bed.

432
00:13:53,560 --> 00:13:58,760
We talk about, uh, sexually, uh, things
that you could do, go out with this

433
00:13:58,770 --> 00:14:03,060
person, go do this, go do that, you
know, and it's hot talk all the way.

434
00:14:03,550 --> 00:14:04,010
Um-

435
00:14:04,290 --> 00:14:05,430
I'm a slut in your mind

436
00:14:05,530 --> 00:14:08,730
…
in my head, absolutely,
baby, all day, every day.

437
00:14:09,190 --> 00:14:16,420
Uh, but in real life, this is the fun
part, is that, uh, once the talk ends…

438
00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,360
a- and I, and many of you may be able
to understand this because if some

439
00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:25,130
of you have ever gotten a porno mag
or watched a porn and was so fucking

440
00:14:25,140 --> 00:14:27,690
horny and you just had to come and
you're like, "Oh, yeah," you know?

441
00:14:27,690 --> 00:14:31,710
And maybe, maybe you're watching
a porn that, uh, something you

442
00:14:31,710 --> 00:14:34,910
wouldn't be into normally or, but
it, but it's just something that

443
00:14:34,910 --> 00:14:36,630
you gotta watch to get it going.

444
00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,370
And then as soon as you come
You go, "Oh, shut this shit off.

445
00:14:41,590 --> 00:14:42,260
Turn it off.

446
00:14:42,950 --> 00:14:43,650
I don't want this.

447
00:14:44,220 --> 00:14:46,010
I'm not that person."
You know what I mean?

448
00:14:46,340 --> 00:14:47,410
So I've-

449
00:14:47,420 --> 00:14:47,790
Okay

450
00:14:47,820 --> 00:14:49,810
I've definitely done
that before in my past.

451
00:14:50,330 --> 00:14:55,810
That, I think, is what happens as soon
as we both nut and the conversation

452
00:14:55,810 --> 00:15:01,600
is done, um, then all of a sudden
it's like, whoa, wait a second.

453
00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,520
Now, I've seen it before.

454
00:15:03,530 --> 00:15:05,280
What are you talking about?

455
00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,410
I've seen it before when, we've had sex.

456
00:15:07,420 --> 00:15:10,070
Like say we've had the house to ourselves.

457
00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:10,110
Okay.

458
00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:11,280
No kids in sight.

459
00:15:11,290 --> 00:15:11,320
Okay.

460
00:15:11,330 --> 00:15:13,850
They're all out of town
for the weekend, whatever.

461
00:15:13,900 --> 00:15:14,190
Yeah.

462
00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:14,480
Right?

463
00:15:14,750 --> 00:15:15,970
Oh, I get it.

464
00:15:15,980 --> 00:15:19,530
And we're talking about it, and
it's like, "Oh yeah, you know what?

465
00:15:19,530 --> 00:15:20,750
We got the house to ourselves.

466
00:15:20,750 --> 00:15:23,720
Let's… We can… Let's invite
somebody." And I'm like, "Well, sh- you

467
00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,980
got, you got the list of people that
you would consider having sex with."

468
00:15:27,670 --> 00:15:32,280
Because in the past, um, you know,
I would be the one to set things up.

469
00:15:32,300 --> 00:15:37,170
I'd have a guy come over, and she wouldn't
know him, and it would be a little risky.

470
00:15:37,230 --> 00:15:41,370
And it… She wasn't into it
especially because she didn't know him.

471
00:15:41,380 --> 00:15:41,400
Yeah.

472
00:15:41,500 --> 00:15:42,189
You know what I mean?

473
00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:48,789
And I would rather see the experience
of you enjoying yourself with somebody

474
00:15:48,789 --> 00:15:52,280
that we know, or knowing that you're
out there having fun with somebody

475
00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,790
that we know, uh, rather than some
stranger, and you know it's unsafe and

476
00:15:55,790 --> 00:15:57,069
there's a lot of variables at play.

477
00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:58,660
Oh, I don't It's just for sex purposes.

478
00:15:58,660 --> 00:15:59,140
Yeah.

479
00:15:59,140 --> 00:16:02,820
That's it . So we'll be having sex, and
she'll be like, "Oh, yeah, let me get

480
00:16:02,820 --> 00:16:05,830
on my phone," while we're having sex,
which she knows, I think is very hot.

481
00:16:06,310 --> 00:16:09,580
And she's like, "Yeah, let me get on
my phone and let me message so and so."

482
00:16:09,810 --> 00:16:12,950
And so she's in the act of messaging.

483
00:16:13,030 --> 00:16:15,390
I can't see what's
being put on the screen.

484
00:16:15,390 --> 00:16:15,690
Yeah.

485
00:16:16,010 --> 00:16:18,780
All I see is her on her phone
and w- and we're going at it.

486
00:16:18,790 --> 00:16:23,470
Well then, as soon as I finish,
or as soon as we finish-

487
00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:24,600
The story is done

488
00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:25,700
…
it's done.

489
00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,700
And then all of a sudden she
puts her phone away, and then

490
00:16:27,700 --> 00:16:28,810
it's never mentioned again.

491
00:16:28,810 --> 00:16:31,530
And I'm like, wait, didn't she
just… Didn't she say that she

492
00:16:31,530 --> 00:16:33,400
was reaching out to somebody,
she was gonna have somebody over?

493
00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,280
And so then it's like all of a sudden just
like, "No, no, no, I, I was actually…

494
00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:41,570
I was messaging, uh, you know, seeing
if… What was happening tonight, if

495
00:16:41,570 --> 00:16:43,100
anybody was going anywhere or what…"

496
00:16:43,110 --> 00:16:43,745
You know, it's like-

497
00:16:43,745 --> 00:16:43,990
Baby

498
00:16:43,990 --> 00:16:45,839
…
there was one time you were just
going through your pictures.

499
00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:47,070
Baby.

500
00:16:47,079 --> 00:16:47,929
And that's okay.

501
00:16:48,169 --> 00:16:49,080
That's totally okay.

502
00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:50,509
Like, I have no issue with that.

503
00:16:50,549 --> 00:16:51,829
I think that's cool because-

504
00:16:51,889 --> 00:16:53,579
But you would like it to carry on

505
00:16:53,650 --> 00:16:59,000
…
um, you know me personally, I
think Well, uh, like we talked

506
00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,130
about during the show with, uh,
Amanda Dames, you know, it, it…

507
00:17:02,190 --> 00:17:05,030
I guess you could say it
is more of a fetish for me-

508
00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,010
Yeah … uh, than it is a kink.

509
00:17:07,060 --> 00:17:07,360
Yeah.

510
00:17:07,430 --> 00:17:10,310
Uh, because that's what's in my
head oftentimes, and that's what-

511
00:17:10,310 --> 00:17:11,780
Yeah … I get off to oftentimes.

512
00:17:12,189 --> 00:17:14,110
Uh, so yeah.

513
00:17:14,110 --> 00:17:17,400
You know, I like it a lot, and that
really brings up the discussion of

514
00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:21,870
what do you do when you have somebody
in, in a couple who has this fetish-

515
00:17:22,099 --> 00:17:22,239
Yeah

516
00:17:22,249 --> 00:17:23,570
and the other person doesn't?

517
00:17:23,579 --> 00:17:27,449
And, you know, I think because
you love me so much, you're

518
00:17:27,450 --> 00:17:29,989
willing to explore this for me.

519
00:17:30,210 --> 00:17:30,490
Yeah.

520
00:17:30,539 --> 00:17:36,359
Uh, and we've, we've seen it I've seen
you, uh, reach out to, you know, friends

521
00:17:36,479 --> 00:17:39,579
that we have and been like- Yeah … "Hey,
you know, you don't live far. I can go

522
00:17:39,579 --> 00:17:41,299
over after work." I did, this Saturday.

523
00:17:41,299 --> 00:17:41,939
Oh yeah, I know.

524
00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:43,459
You, you, you did, huh?

525
00:17:43,519 --> 00:17:45,159
For this past Saturday, yeah.

526
00:17:45,159 --> 00:17:45,629
You did?

527
00:17:45,629 --> 00:17:46,609
But he went to work.

528
00:17:47,189 --> 00:17:47,919
Oh, yeah, yeah.

529
00:17:47,929 --> 00:17:48,259
Well, that- So

530
00:17:48,259 --> 00:17:48,879
you see-

531
00:17:48,889 --> 00:17:49,919
So but… And, and no, that's what I'm-

532
00:17:49,919 --> 00:17:50,889
…
Pris be trying

533
00:17:50,899 --> 00:17:51,649
…
that's what I'm saying.

534
00:17:51,649 --> 00:17:52,649
Like, you're trying.

535
00:17:52,819 --> 00:17:53,089
Yeah.

536
00:17:53,149 --> 00:17:57,589
Um, but you're trying, but also
I… So this is the hard part.

537
00:17:57,609 --> 00:17:58,409
Oh, my goodness.

538
00:17:58,539 --> 00:17:58,569
No, no.

539
00:17:58,569 --> 00:17:59,479
This is the hard part.

540
00:17:59,489 --> 00:17:59,539
Oh, baby.

541
00:17:59,539 --> 00:18:00,089
Because I'm,

542
00:18:00,089 --> 00:18:00,229
a-

543
00:18:00,439 --> 00:18:03,629
as the husband, and I'm sure there are
a lot of couples who can understand

544
00:18:03,629 --> 00:18:07,709
this, um, you know, there's a lot of
husbands out there that push their wives

545
00:18:07,709 --> 00:18:11,359
to do things that maybe they're not
totally uncom- uh, comfortable doing.

546
00:18:11,510 --> 00:18:11,870
Yes.

547
00:18:11,949 --> 00:18:17,249
Um, and I always am afraid that
I am pushing you to do something

548
00:18:17,249 --> 00:18:18,389
that you just don't wanna do.

549
00:18:18,389 --> 00:18:20,729
Now luckily for me,
you have found your no.

550
00:18:21,299 --> 00:18:21,549
Yeah.

551
00:18:21,549 --> 00:18:23,579
You have found your voice,
and I feel great about that.

552
00:18:23,869 --> 00:18:28,179
But that leaves several years
unaccounted for where you did stuff

553
00:18:28,489 --> 00:18:30,149
on, uh, for, for me, essentially.

554
00:18:30,149 --> 00:18:30,369
Yeah.

555
00:18:30,369 --> 00:18:31,369
You were not into it.

556
00:18:31,379 --> 00:18:31,559
Oh, yes.

557
00:18:31,559 --> 00:18:31,709
Yeah.

558
00:18:31,749 --> 00:18:36,459
And so I'm, I'm always, um, I'm always…
In, in the back of my head I'm always

559
00:18:36,460 --> 00:18:39,419
thinking, "Man, I, I hope that this is
something that she actually wants to do."

560
00:18:39,699 --> 00:18:40,059
You know,

561
00:18:40,059 --> 00:18:40,369
it's a

562
00:18:40,379 --> 00:18:41,319
quick- "And it's not something
that I'm pushing her for." It's,

563
00:18:41,319 --> 00:18:44,480
it's a quick… For me, that would
be so easy, and all you would have

564
00:18:44,489 --> 00:18:47,779
to do is be like, "Dude, send me a
picture. She doesn't wanna see you.

565
00:18:48,399 --> 00:18:49,569
She wanna see what you look like."

566
00:18:49,789 --> 00:18:50,260
What do you mean?

567
00:18:50,559 --> 00:18:51,939
Like, if you were to find somebody.

568
00:18:52,589 --> 00:18:53,979
Oh, you're talking about
if I were to find somebody.

569
00:18:53,979 --> 00:18:56,629
Yeah, if you were to find some- 'cause
you're always, you're always on your

570
00:18:56,629 --> 00:18:56,649
phone, man.

571
00:18:56,649 --> 00:18:57,140
No, dude.

572
00:18:57,149 --> 00:18:58,959
I can't, because you are too

573
00:18:59,319 --> 00:18:59,369
picky.

574
00:18:59,369 --> 00:18:59,744
But that's what I'm saying.

575
00:18:59,744 --> 00:19:00,199
You'd be like,

576
00:19:00,199 --> 00:19:01,269
"
Hey, here." I can't find somebody.

577
00:19:01,789 --> 00:19:04,859
Because I've, I've attempted
to before and- Yeah … we've

578
00:19:04,859 --> 00:19:05,559
gone round and round the circle.

579
00:19:05,559 --> 00:19:06,199
No, I'm more

580
00:19:06,199 --> 00:19:07,699
of, I'm more of just people.

581
00:19:07,719 --> 00:19:11,699
I'm super now… I, I
enjoy people that I like.

582
00:19:11,759 --> 00:19:12,089
Yeah.

583
00:19:12,099 --> 00:19:13,679
So- and I enjoy-

584
00:19:14,059 --> 00:19:14,309
Yeah

585
00:19:14,309 --> 00:19:16,559
…
the thought of you being
safe with somebody-

586
00:19:16,559 --> 00:19:18,279
Like, I used to be real
transparent … that we know and like.

587
00:19:18,279 --> 00:19:21,239
Yeah, I used to be real, like,
transactional and be like, "Mm,

588
00:19:21,409 --> 00:19:26,639
okay sure, whatever." Now I would
only do that, like, at the club.

589
00:19:26,639 --> 00:19:27,289
Yeah.

590
00:19:27,289 --> 00:19:27,589
Yeah.

591
00:19:27,749 --> 00:19:29,709
I would not do that here at the house.

592
00:19:30,019 --> 00:19:33,100
Um, I would have to know who it
is that's coming over to the house

593
00:19:33,149 --> 00:19:34,359
if I were to have somebody over.

594
00:19:34,610 --> 00:19:34,920
Yeah.

595
00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:40,340
You know, we very rarely put you
in a position of unsafe moments.

596
00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:40,829
Yeah.

597
00:19:40,890 --> 00:19:42,499
But it has happened before-

598
00:19:42,510 --> 00:19:42,900
Yes

599
00:19:43,010 --> 00:19:45,890
…
uh, where you have played
with somebody that you didn't

600
00:19:45,890 --> 00:19:47,010
really know very well- Yeah

601
00:19:47,030 --> 00:19:49,273
in a public spot, you know?

602
00:19:49,273 --> 00:19:49,346
Yeah.

603
00:19:49,346 --> 00:19:54,240
And, and, and, uh, just to fulfill a
fantasy, which, which was awesome for me.

604
00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:54,580
Yeah.

605
00:19:54,630 --> 00:19:54,950
But-

606
00:19:54,950 --> 00:19:55,730
But you're there

607
00:19:55,870 --> 00:19:56,150
…
yeah.

608
00:19:56,650 --> 00:19:56,775
So, like, I'm not alone.

609
00:19:56,775 --> 00:20:00,920
But at the same time it's like now I
want you to explore your sluttiness.

610
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:01,269
Yeah.

611
00:20:01,269 --> 00:20:01,319
And that's where I'm at.

612
00:20:01,319 --> 00:20:02,070
And I'm trying.

613
00:20:02,949 --> 00:20:04,159
I'm super trying.

614
00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,200
Like, I have people that
I like that I talk to.

615
00:20:07,660 --> 00:20:13,670
Um, so I, I'm getting there, baby
steps, because I'm picky as fuck.

616
00:20:14,169 --> 00:20:14,439
Yeah.

617
00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,030
I'm selective as hell.

618
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:16,060
Yeah.

619
00:20:16,540 --> 00:20:21,349
I want to know I like the person
and the person gives me good vibes.

620
00:20:21,850 --> 00:20:26,188
Um, so far I got me a little list.

621
00:20:26,338 --> 00:20:26,548
Yeah, I'm starting to get a list.

622
00:20:26,548 --> 00:20:28,988
The only thing is that We're
in an area that I don't know

623
00:20:28,988 --> 00:20:30,988
a lot of people around us.

624
00:20:30,998 --> 00:20:33,998
Like, everybody has to travel to
us, so now- Mm … now I have,

625
00:20:33,998 --> 00:20:36,118
like, two people near us, so.

626
00:20:36,128 --> 00:20:36,878
Ooh.

627
00:20:36,888 --> 00:20:37,358
I know.

628
00:20:37,858 --> 00:20:38,058
Big time.

629
00:20:38,118 --> 00:20:38,328
You see.

630
00:20:38,368 --> 00:20:41,738
Hey, that's better than I did,
I had last week, which was zero.

631
00:20:42,008 --> 00:20:42,918
Yeah, yeah.

632
00:20:42,928 --> 00:20:45,108
Well, you know, I mean, one,
it's, it's hard to do when you-

633
00:20:45,108 --> 00:20:46,118
It is … have kids in the house.

634
00:20:46,248 --> 00:20:47,358
And I work a lot.

635
00:20:47,368 --> 00:20:48,498
And you work a lot.

636
00:20:48,538 --> 00:20:49,838
I work a lot, and we have this- And

637
00:20:50,038 --> 00:20:53,188
she doesn't like to interrupt
our time on weekends.

638
00:20:53,198 --> 00:20:53,218
No.

639
00:20:53,588 --> 00:20:54,118
So

640
00:20:54,148 --> 00:20:55,998
Like, tomorrow I'm going out on a date.

641
00:20:56,228 --> 00:20:56,858
Tomorrow?

642
00:20:56,948 --> 00:20:57,188
Yeah.

643
00:20:57,228 --> 00:21:00,978
Tomorrow I'm going out on a date,
and we set it up, and immediately I

644
00:21:01,018 --> 00:21:03,308
texted Adam, and I was like, " Man."

645
00:21:03,808 --> 00:21:04,968
I already wanna cancel.

646
00:21:04,968 --> 00:21:05,848
I already wanna cancel.

647
00:21:05,848 --> 00:21:09,868
Because I have to go home, get ready,
come back, and it's like, "Ugh."

648
00:21:10,358 --> 00:21:12,568
And I told her, I was like, "You
know, you don't have to go. You-"

649
00:21:12,618 --> 00:21:12,938
Yeah.

650
00:21:13,078 --> 00:21:14,678
"
You can go on the weekend." Yeah.

651
00:21:14,678 --> 00:21:15,208
And she's like, "No."

652
00:21:15,218 --> 00:21:15,508
Nope.

653
00:21:15,858 --> 00:21:16,548
"
Not gonna do that."

654
00:21:16,548 --> 00:21:18,178
The weekend would be my time.

655
00:21:18,248 --> 00:21:20,258
Yeah, the weekend is-
Yeah … is our time.

656
00:21:20,258 --> 00:21:20,278
Yeah.

657
00:21:20,278 --> 00:21:20,485
And I

658
00:21:20,485 --> 00:21:21,828
know you don't like to- And he's
willing to come this way, but

659
00:21:21,828 --> 00:21:23,338
I was like, "I'll go that way."

660
00:21:23,878 --> 00:21:24,138
Yeah?

661
00:21:24,208 --> 00:21:24,518
Yeah.

662
00:21:25,438 --> 00:21:27,478
I'm just gonna come home,
change, and then go that way.

663
00:21:28,048 --> 00:21:30,488
You know, I think I get it.

664
00:21:30,908 --> 00:21:35,348
Well, so for me, I get it in the
fact that I can set up stuff for

665
00:21:35,348 --> 00:21:41,018
myself, and normally leading up to
the moment, I'm like, "Man, I should

666
00:21:41,018 --> 00:21:42,808
cancel. I should cancel." Yeah.

667
00:21:43,258 --> 00:21:45,128
But for me, it's different reasons.

668
00:21:45,408 --> 00:21:45,718
Oh.

669
00:21:46,067 --> 00:21:46,788
For me, it's-

670
00:21:47,148 --> 00:21:47,858
For me, it's, I'll get

671
00:21:48,098 --> 00:21:48,538
hot and I'm like, "Sorry."

672
00:21:48,538 --> 00:21:51,028
I, I, I wanna… I, I always
think I should cancel because

673
00:21:51,028 --> 00:21:52,728
I, I have anxiety about-

674
00:21:53,018 --> 00:21:53,438
Oh

675
00:21:53,448 --> 00:21:58,278
…
you know, w- what, how it's gonna go, but
also- Yeah … how you're gonna react if

676
00:21:58,288 --> 00:21:59,858
you're having a good day or a bad day.

677
00:21:59,908 --> 00:21:59,978
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

678
00:21:59,978 --> 00:22:00,748
Like, there's a lot

679
00:22:00,748 --> 00:22:00,968
at play.

680
00:22:00,968 --> 00:22:01,408
You have a lot.

681
00:22:01,408 --> 00:22:01,608
You-

682
00:22:01,608 --> 00:22:03,548
You know that this- Yeah … is my kink.

683
00:22:03,637 --> 00:22:03,667
Yes.

684
00:22:03,698 --> 00:22:06,498
And so you know no matter what
happens, it's gonna be hot.

685
00:22:06,538 --> 00:22:07,638
Adam's gonna be on point.

686
00:22:07,678 --> 00:22:07,958
Yeah.

687
00:22:07,968 --> 00:22:09,538
And be like, "Let's celebrate that shit."

688
00:22:09,538 --> 00:22:10,188
But I'm trying to be- But

689
00:22:10,188 --> 00:22:11,208
you is a different story.

690
00:22:11,218 --> 00:22:14,848
Yeah, and I, but I'm, and I'm
trying to be a little bit more, um

691
00:22:15,348 --> 00:22:18,138
Open… Guys, we've been in
this lifestyle for 15 years.

692
00:22:18,148 --> 00:22:18,168
Wow.

693
00:22:18,448 --> 00:22:23,998
And that's a still a hard, um,
thing for me to do is for him to

694
00:22:23,998 --> 00:22:25,698
go and play separately without me.

695
00:22:26,428 --> 00:22:26,708
Yeah.

696
00:22:26,708 --> 00:22:29,078
And be, and be his little slutty self.

697
00:22:29,358 --> 00:22:34,088
Um, and I'm, but I'm trying to be
more open to that, especially now

698
00:22:34,088 --> 00:22:38,438
that I'm, I'm finding my own people.

699
00:22:38,438 --> 00:22:38,658
Mm.

700
00:22:38,658 --> 00:22:38,998
Mm-hmm.

701
00:22:39,168 --> 00:22:39,638
I guess.

702
00:22:39,648 --> 00:22:39,798
Mm-hmm.

703
00:22:39,808 --> 00:22:40,808
So it's easier.

704
00:22:40,818 --> 00:22:40,838
Yeah.

705
00:22:40,848 --> 00:22:41,758
It's easier now.

706
00:22:41,758 --> 00:22:45,488
I'm not, um, my… I'm not home by myself.

707
00:22:45,978 --> 00:22:46,358
Yeah.

708
00:22:46,438 --> 00:22:47,578
Because we have teenagers.

709
00:22:47,808 --> 00:22:50,278
They're fucking gone all the time.

710
00:22:50,838 --> 00:22:53,978
Well, you know, and I'm curious
'cause, you know, having sex with

711
00:22:54,048 --> 00:23:00,118
a lot of people, uh, is only part
of what makes up slutty behavior.

712
00:23:00,128 --> 00:23:04,868
Okay, real quick before we get back
into it, we gotta talk about sdc.com

713
00:23:05,198 --> 00:23:05,718
Oh, yes.

714
00:23:05,818 --> 00:23:09,078
Okay, so if you don't know SDC,
it's basically the largest online

715
00:23:09,078 --> 00:23:10,678
community for open-minded adults

716
00:23:10,878 --> 00:23:15,738
Which if you're listening to this show
right now, I feel like you probably

717
00:23:15,738 --> 00:23:17,408
already know if that's your scene

718
00:23:17,768 --> 00:23:18,048
Yeah.

719
00:23:18,068 --> 00:23:19,988
It's your people all in one place.

720
00:23:20,328 --> 00:23:22,568
Just make a profile and go explore

721
00:23:22,808 --> 00:23:26,728
No weirdness, no judgment, just
a ton of like-minded humans

722
00:23:26,768 --> 00:23:28,538
living their lives, just like us

723
00:23:28,718 --> 00:23:30,508
Honestly, it's kinda
fun just to poke around

724
00:23:30,588 --> 00:23:31,528
Yeah, it really is.

725
00:23:31,728 --> 00:23:33,958
Go sign up at sdc.com.

726
00:23:34,168 --> 00:23:35,598
Use code 38236.

727
00:23:35,688 --> 00:23:38,298
Link's in the show notes

728
00:23:38,338 --> 00:23:40,028
Okay, now back to what we were saying

729
00:23:40,208 --> 00:23:40,628
Yes

730
00:23:40,863 --> 00:23:42,813
What do you think else

731
00:23:42,863 --> 00:23:42,883
is

732
00:23:42,883 --> 00:23:43,983
considered- You know, honestly-

733
00:23:43,983 --> 00:23:44,543
slutty behavior?

734
00:23:44,643 --> 00:23:46,373
I think it's just that.

735
00:23:46,763 --> 00:23:47,133
Really?

736
00:23:47,133 --> 00:23:47,523
Just the-

737
00:23:47,583 --> 00:23:48,613
I'd throw in more.

738
00:23:48,803 --> 00:23:49,163
I mean…

739
00:23:49,823 --> 00:23:51,733
So, like, uh, I, I'll give you an example.

740
00:23:52,063 --> 00:23:53,903
Um, we go to the club.

741
00:23:54,033 --> 00:23:54,353
Uh-huh.

742
00:23:54,423 --> 00:23:55,653
We go to the adult club.

743
00:23:56,143 --> 00:24:00,343
And, uh, you know, we have friends
that we eventually will take

744
00:24:00,344 --> 00:24:02,123
to the back and have fun with.

745
00:24:02,193 --> 00:24:02,453
Yes.

746
00:24:02,683 --> 00:24:09,114
Um, and- Y- you, you aren't
that touchy-feely with them

747
00:24:09,164 --> 00:24:10,514
unless we go to the back.

748
00:24:11,444 --> 00:24:11,864
Yeah.

749
00:24:11,914 --> 00:24:12,394
Yeah.

750
00:24:12,544 --> 00:24:13,884
Um, well-

751
00:24:13,884 --> 00:24:14,914
Well, I mean, you're getting better at

752
00:24:14,914 --> 00:24:17,004
it … I, so I'm not touch…
I'm like, I'll touch them like

753
00:24:17,004 --> 00:24:17,984
I could touch you on the show.

754
00:24:17,984 --> 00:24:18,554
Like a buddy.

755
00:24:18,564 --> 00:24:22,014
But yeah, I don't touch them
like I touch you at the club.

756
00:24:22,024 --> 00:24:22,984
Right, right, right.

757
00:24:23,224 --> 00:24:24,674
You know, a- and you know that you can.

758
00:24:24,674 --> 00:24:25,304
I don't know if that's okay.

759
00:24:25,314 --> 00:24:26,824
Like, well, you gotta ask.

760
00:24:26,864 --> 00:24:28,304
That's what asking is for.

761
00:24:28,304 --> 00:24:28,434
Yeah.

762
00:24:28,434 --> 00:24:29,524
That's what consent is for.

763
00:24:29,524 --> 00:24:34,704
You see, I just don't, I don't know,
because you know, I, that's the-

764
00:24:34,774 --> 00:24:36,453
You don't really touch people.

765
00:24:36,454 --> 00:24:38,904
You don't, like, flirt that much.

766
00:24:38,904 --> 00:24:39,754
Like, you'll say- Yeah

767
00:24:39,754 --> 00:24:44,254
something every now and then, but it
really takes a lot for you to- It does,

768
00:24:44,254 --> 00:24:44,564
yeah

769
00:24:44,564 --> 00:24:47,263
…
and that's because you
used to be a stripper.

770
00:24:47,904 --> 00:24:49,257
You used to give guys lap dances and shit.

771
00:24:49,257 --> 00:24:50,294
So guys, I use-

772
00:24:50,854 --> 00:24:52,594
That's touchy-feely … I mean, if
you're gonna, if you're think- if

773
00:24:52,594 --> 00:24:57,264
you're calling s- that part, that part
sluttiness, being very touchy-feely-

774
00:24:57,264 --> 00:24:57,274
Mm.

775
00:24:57,324 --> 00:24:59,334
I think it's a part of the behavior-

776
00:24:59,334 --> 00:24:59,953
Of the behavior

777
00:24:59,954 --> 00:25:01,353
…
that exudes sluttiness.

778
00:25:01,454 --> 00:25:01,794
Okay,

779
00:25:01,794 --> 00:25:01,834
that makes it, yeah.

780
00:25:01,834 --> 00:25:04,784
And I feel like it, it kind
of pushes that air into it.

781
00:25:04,794 --> 00:25:05,044
Yeah.

782
00:25:05,044 --> 00:25:07,259
Like, hey, you know, this is,
I'm showing interest in you.

783
00:25:07,259 --> 00:25:07,404
Would you call

784
00:25:07,404 --> 00:25:08,984
that more teasing?

785
00:25:09,654 --> 00:25:11,534
It's only teasing if you don't give it up.

786
00:25:12,034 --> 00:25:14,233
Is teasing part of slutty behavior?

787
00:25:14,233 --> 00:25:14,317
I think

788
00:25:14,317 --> 00:25:15,147
I think it can be.

789
00:25:15,158 --> 00:25:15,958
I think it can be.

790
00:25:16,238 --> 00:25:19,138
But you know, I'm sure there's people
out there that, that will disagree

791
00:25:19,138 --> 00:25:22,268
with me, and I, and I'm not, I'm, I'm
not trying to make a debate out of it.

792
00:25:22,268 --> 00:25:26,178
But this is what I've always seen
as- Hmm … kind of the- Yeah … the

793
00:25:26,178 --> 00:25:29,738
precursor of slutty behavior, you know?

794
00:25:29,738 --> 00:25:29,818
Yeah.

795
00:25:29,818 --> 00:25:35,598
I- if, if I see a woman who's, uh, going
out and about at a club, and she's,

796
00:25:35,598 --> 00:25:40,098
like, grinding up against different
people, and she's making out with several

797
00:25:40,098 --> 00:25:42,578
different people, that's slutty behavior.

798
00:25:42,578 --> 00:25:42,618
That's

799
00:25:42,618 --> 00:25:43,118
slutty behavior.

800
00:25:43,808 --> 00:25:44,468
Adam likes it raw,

801
00:25:44,568 --> 00:25:44,948
hard.

802
00:25:45,148 --> 00:25:45,748
And there's no sex involved.

803
00:25:45,748 --> 00:25:46,078
Oh, dude, 100%.

804
00:25:46,108 --> 00:25:49,048
I tell you, and I bring this up because
I literally, right before you walked

805
00:25:49,048 --> 00:25:53,498
in today, um, there was, uh, somebody
that popped up on my Instagram, and I,

806
00:25:53,508 --> 00:25:58,748
they, she was like, it had a caption
that said, "When I decide to go out with

807
00:25:58,748 --> 00:26:02,558
my friends to the club," and they show
her, like, making out with this guy, and

808
00:26:02,558 --> 00:26:04,738
then all of a sudden she's making out
with this guy over here, and then she's

809
00:26:04,738 --> 00:26:08,368
making out with another guy outside,
and it's like, I was like, "Follow."

810
00:26:09,128 --> 00:26:10,238
Because that's hot to me.

811
00:26:10,238 --> 00:26:11,968
That's- Yeah … that's very hot behavior.

812
00:26:11,978 --> 00:26:11,998
Yeah.

813
00:26:12,238 --> 00:26:13,078
Um, you know, I-

814
00:26:13,128 --> 00:26:13,817
I'm in my head

815
00:26:13,827 --> 00:26:14,117
for- Yeah?

816
00:26:14,228 --> 00:26:15,547
…
I'm just in my head for a lot of reasons.

817
00:26:15,607 --> 00:26:16,017
Really?

818
00:26:16,278 --> 00:26:18,377
Like, what if they don't wanna kiss me?

819
00:26:18,877 --> 00:26:19,717
What if- Then they'll tell you no

820
00:26:19,728 --> 00:26:21,188
…
what if my breath smells?

821
00:26:21,497 --> 00:26:22,498
You chew a lot of gum.

822
00:26:22,607 --> 00:26:24,578
What if, I don't know.

823
00:26:25,258 --> 00:26:26,258
You chew gum when we're at the club.

824
00:26:26,258 --> 00:26:26,358
What if they

825
00:26:26,607 --> 00:26:27,978
suck at kissing?

826
00:26:27,988 --> 00:26:28,458
That,

827
00:26:29,148 --> 00:26:31,647
Dude, everyone sucks-
Right there … at kissing.

828
00:26:31,658 --> 00:26:31,968
That.

829
00:26:32,608 --> 00:26:33,038
Actually, no.

830
00:26:33,388 --> 00:26:37,718
I've actually found- A few people
that are not sucky at kissing

831
00:26:37,758 --> 00:26:38,388
Oh, there you go

832
00:26:38,888 --> 00:26:39,278
Yeah

833
00:26:39,378 --> 00:26:39,758
That's a start

834
00:26:39,758 --> 00:26:40,638
Girls too

835
00:26:41,268 --> 00:26:44,768
Um, you know, I, uh, I enjoy it when
a woman comes up to me and kisses me.

836
00:26:44,808 --> 00:26:45,308
I like that.

837
00:26:45,888 --> 00:26:47,298
Uh, to an extent.

838
00:26:47,538 --> 00:26:49,208
If it's t- if it's all the time, come on.

839
00:26:49,218 --> 00:26:50,638
I mean, you gotta give me something else.

840
00:26:50,988 --> 00:26:54,228
Uh, but yeah, I, I, I like- Give you a

841
00:26:54,228 --> 00:26:54,828
handshake

842
00:26:55,108 --> 00:26:55,668
That's right.

843
00:26:56,038 --> 00:26:57,488
Slap my palms a little bit.

844
00:26:57,578 --> 00:27:04,088
Um, you know, I, I think that that is a…
Like, I would love to see you be that way,

845
00:27:04,108 --> 00:27:06,038
and there was a time when I wouldn't have.

846
00:27:06,618 --> 00:27:13,118
There was a time when we could have
gone out and you, you know, being, like

847
00:27:13,138 --> 00:27:18,248
touching another man's- Yeah … arm or
being, uh, flirty and showing attention to

848
00:27:18,258 --> 00:27:20,308
one or two other people that weren't me.

849
00:27:20,508 --> 00:27:21,858
The way I was before I met you?

850
00:27:21,908 --> 00:27:22,248
Yeah.

851
00:27:22,318 --> 00:27:22,488
Yeah.

852
00:27:22,488 --> 00:27:24,898
There was a chance I would not
have handled that well at all.

853
00:27:25,298 --> 00:27:25,958
Really?

854
00:27:25,968 --> 00:27:26,178
No.

855
00:27:26,798 --> 00:27:30,308
But this was before I realized,
you know, like I said, this was-

856
00:27:30,308 --> 00:27:30,938
Yeah

857
00:27:31,058 --> 00:27:33,938
…
a lot of confusing times
during those early years-

858
00:27:33,958 --> 00:27:35,328
Yeah … because I didn't know-

859
00:27:35,368 --> 00:27:35,688
Yeah

860
00:27:35,728 --> 00:27:37,028
…
that I liked the hot wife thing so

861
00:27:37,498 --> 00:27:37,668
much.

862
00:27:37,668 --> 00:27:39,658
I d- I didn't know that
I liked the hot husband-

863
00:27:40,268 --> 00:27:41,068
I didn't know that either

864
00:27:41,068 --> 00:27:42,048
…
until recently.

865
00:27:42,058 --> 00:27:42,798
Until recently,

866
00:27:42,828 --> 00:27:43,118
yeah.

867
00:27:43,238 --> 00:27:43,438
Yeah.

868
00:27:43,448 --> 00:27:44,058
I didn't know that either.

869
00:27:44,068 --> 00:27:44,088
Yeah.

870
00:27:44,118 --> 00:27:44,518
I didn't think that that was a- I,

871
00:27:44,648 --> 00:27:46,098
that's my dominant side.

872
00:27:46,328 --> 00:27:46,698
Yeah?

873
00:27:46,778 --> 00:27:48,708
That's my, this is my property.

874
00:27:48,978 --> 00:27:50,118
He is my dick.

875
00:27:50,298 --> 00:27:50,468
Oh.

876
00:27:50,518 --> 00:27:51,908
This is mine right here.

877
00:27:51,918 --> 00:27:51,958
Oh, okay.

878
00:27:51,958 --> 00:27:53,028
You can borrow him.

879
00:27:53,038 --> 00:27:54,738
You're gonna br- he's coming back.

880
00:27:54,798 --> 00:27:55,068
Yeah.

881
00:27:55,228 --> 00:27:56,828
And There you go.

882
00:27:57,448 --> 00:27:57,598
Yeah.

883
00:27:57,638 --> 00:27:59,908
You may or may not get
a text the next morning.

884
00:28:00,028 --> 00:28:01,108
You may, you may.

885
00:28:01,228 --> 00:28:01,478
Just depends.

886
00:28:01,478 --> 00:28:01,798
It is what it

887
00:28:01,798 --> 00:28:02,308
is, man.

888
00:28:02,458 --> 00:28:04,668
But th- that's my dominant part and-

889
00:28:04,688 --> 00:28:05,558
She's very dominant … I

890
00:28:05,558 --> 00:28:06,168
like when you-

891
00:28:06,198 --> 00:28:06,648
Very dominant.

892
00:28:06,648 --> 00:28:08,028
You know, I do like the sluttiness.

893
00:28:08,088 --> 00:28:08,748
It's hot.

894
00:28:08,878 --> 00:28:09,958
I like the sluttiness.

895
00:28:09,958 --> 00:28:12,978
You know, it represents sexual
freedom for me, and sexual freedom

896
00:28:12,988 --> 00:28:14,678
is a major- That's- … turn-on.

897
00:28:14,748 --> 00:28:15,258
It is.

898
00:28:15,268 --> 00:28:16,368
It's a major turn-on.

899
00:28:16,368 --> 00:28:16,418
Yeah,

900
00:28:16,418 --> 00:28:16,578
yeah.

901
00:28:16,638 --> 00:28:21,448
The fact that I can do or you
can do whatever we want to do-

902
00:28:21,498 --> 00:28:21,818
Yeah

903
00:28:21,978 --> 00:28:26,658
…
and not have to worry about how
it's going to negatively affect

904
00:28:26,748 --> 00:28:29,578
our marriage, our relationship-
Yeah, yeah … our household-

905
00:28:29,728 --> 00:28:30,088
Mm-hmm

906
00:28:30,158 --> 00:28:31,778
…
uh, is everything to me.

907
00:28:31,908 --> 00:28:32,088
Yeah.

908
00:28:32,088 --> 00:28:34,028
And frankly, even more of a turn-on.

909
00:28:34,378 --> 00:28:40,268
Uh, so whenever I can have my fun and
come home and not have to worry about, oh,

910
00:28:40,268 --> 00:28:42,278
she's, she didn't like that one, you know?

911
00:28:42,288 --> 00:28:42,358
Yeah.

912
00:28:42,598 --> 00:28:43,448
Or vice versa.

913
00:28:43,508 --> 00:28:43,678
If I didn't

914
00:28:43,678 --> 00:28:45,158
like it, he will know.

915
00:28:45,228 --> 00:28:45,928
I will tell him.

916
00:28:45,928 --> 00:28:46,698
Pre- pretty quick, yeah.

917
00:28:46,748 --> 00:28:47,998
I'm not holding it in anymore.

918
00:28:48,008 --> 00:28:50,288
No, no, it's definitely
not being held in anymore.

919
00:28:50,368 --> 00:28:51,598
That's definitely stopped.

920
00:28:51,928 --> 00:28:52,818
That's ended.

921
00:28:53,358 --> 00:28:56,998
Uh, but you know- Like I said,
it, it… But you have gotten,

922
00:28:57,008 --> 00:28:58,478
you've come leaps and bounds.

923
00:28:58,488 --> 00:29:00,748
Like, you've gone a long way
from where you used to be.

924
00:29:00,748 --> 00:29:00,958
Well,

925
00:29:01,008 --> 00:29:02,108
You've come a long way.

926
00:29:02,118 --> 00:29:02,548
Yeah.

927
00:29:02,548 --> 00:29:02,888
Yeah,

928
00:29:02,888 --> 00:29:04,648
it's funny because I used to be- I

929
00:29:04,648 --> 00:29:07,648
mean, you still sometimes do this
whole texting thing over here.

930
00:29:07,838 --> 00:29:10,188
Like, like I've gotta
see what you're texting.

931
00:29:10,258 --> 00:29:10,998
I actually don't.

932
00:29:10,998 --> 00:29:13,728
I think that's more of you just being, um-

933
00:29:13,788 --> 00:29:15,188
I never hide texting from you

934
00:29:15,188 --> 00:29:18,258
you don't hide, but it's funny
when you do, like when you're

935
00:29:18,268 --> 00:29:19,648
behind me and you're texting.

936
00:29:19,988 --> 00:29:22,888
I'm like, "Where are you?"
No, you don't hide shit.

937
00:29:22,918 --> 00:29:25,888
It's just funny because you have
bad, like, you have moments.

938
00:29:25,888 --> 00:29:26,028
If

939
00:29:26,028 --> 00:29:28,318
you're in front of me, I, I'm gonna text.

940
00:29:28,318 --> 00:29:31,518
I'm not gonna get in front of you and go,
"Uh, let me text in front of your face."

941
00:29:31,788 --> 00:29:33,218
You're walking in front of me.

942
00:29:33,228 --> 00:29:33,248
Yeah.

943
00:29:33,478 --> 00:29:35,748
But because the past Adam-

944
00:29:35,778 --> 00:29:36,128
Yeah

945
00:29:36,198 --> 00:29:41,048
…
has raised your suspicions- … when
you see me on my phone walking behind

946
00:29:41,048 --> 00:29:44,168
you, you go- Yeah … "Oh, he's hiding
his texts." No, I mean- Negative, ma'am

947
00:29:44,178 --> 00:29:44,808
…
you, well,

948
00:29:44,808 --> 00:29:46,238
I mean, that's what I'm saying … I
am very out in the open.

949
00:29:46,248 --> 00:29:47,328
Out in the open is very, is- And if
I, I, if, if you're behind me, I'm

950
00:29:47,328 --> 00:29:48,698
gonna send that text just the same.

951
00:29:48,858 --> 00:29:53,588
Oh, a- being very open in the way you
are and very communi- communicative?

952
00:29:53,588 --> 00:29:53,718
Mm-hmm.

953
00:29:53,718 --> 00:29:54,458
Communicative.

954
00:29:54,458 --> 00:29:54,818
Communicative.

955
00:29:54,818 --> 00:29:55,208
Communic-

956
00:29:55,518 --> 00:29:56,028
communicative.

957
00:29:56,528 --> 00:29:56,908
Yeah.

958
00:29:57,408 --> 00:29:58,088
That's that word.

959
00:29:58,098 --> 00:29:59,018
Communicative.

960
00:29:59,838 --> 00:30:00,638
Communicative.

961
00:30:00,668 --> 00:30:01,438
Communicative.

962
00:30:01,448 --> 00:30:01,828
That's right.

963
00:30:01,828 --> 00:30:03,218
Oh.

964
00:30:03,218 --> 00:30:04,608
Yes,

965
00:30:04,608 --> 00:30:05,188
I knew that

966
00:30:05,188 --> 00:30:05,518
was gonna

967
00:30:05,518 --> 00:30:05,608
happen.

968
00:30:05,608 --> 00:30:08,358
It's helped me, it's
helped me be very secure.

969
00:30:08,518 --> 00:30:10,728
Do you know, me and my coworker
were just talking about that.

970
00:30:10,798 --> 00:30:11,098
Oh yeah?

971
00:30:11,308 --> 00:30:15,278
Yeah, we were talking about
how, um- Love bombing.

972
00:30:15,288 --> 00:30:17,028
Like, I need that love bombing- Mm-hmm

973
00:30:17,028 --> 00:30:18,428
every single day.

974
00:30:18,678 --> 00:30:19,698
Like, and you do that.

975
00:30:19,708 --> 00:30:19,728
It

976
00:30:19,728 --> 00:30:20,128
works out.

977
00:30:20,178 --> 00:30:21,418
Yeah, you do that all the time.

978
00:30:21,458 --> 00:30:21,668
Yeah.

979
00:30:21,708 --> 00:30:24,958
And I mean, like, I call it love
bombing, but in a very positive way.

980
00:30:25,098 --> 00:30:25,348
Mm-hmm.

981
00:30:25,378 --> 00:30:30,618
This is him telling me that he loves
me every single day, all day long.

982
00:30:30,998 --> 00:30:36,868
I, you know, I have always wanted someone
to reciprocate and to be the object-

983
00:30:36,868 --> 00:30:37,708
of my love.

984
00:30:37,828 --> 00:30:38,188
Yeah.

985
00:30:38,258 --> 00:30:41,068
So as soon as I got you and you
were like, "Oh, I love this so

986
00:30:41,068 --> 00:30:43,748
much," and I was like, "Well, I love
this so much." I love you so much.

987
00:30:43,748 --> 00:30:46,778
So that helps me be secure,
and that helps you live your

988
00:30:46,778 --> 00:30:48,088
little slutty life if you want.

989
00:30:48,328 --> 00:30:49,638
It definitely works for me.

990
00:30:49,638 --> 00:30:50,958
I have no complaints.

991
00:30:50,968 --> 00:30:51,088
Communication.

992
00:30:51,088 --> 00:30:51,138
He's

993
00:30:51,258 --> 00:30:51,808
put in the work.

994
00:30:51,898 --> 00:30:53,168
It's a lot of communication.

995
00:30:53,218 --> 00:30:56,068
I have put in a lot of the work
and, and, you know, as we go along,

996
00:30:56,078 --> 00:31:01,388
we're… Uh, you know, I'm trying not
to jump into things too deep too fast.

997
00:31:01,388 --> 00:31:04,648
You know, I want us to take things
slowly just like everything else-

998
00:31:04,668 --> 00:31:05,008
Yeah

999
00:31:05,098 --> 00:31:11,928
…
that we do with this, uh, because I,
I love the idea of you being slutty.

1000
00:31:12,028 --> 00:31:17,248
Uh, but also if I stop getting attention
from you and that's all you do, like

1001
00:31:17,258 --> 00:31:19,948
there's, there's been- There's a problem
… you know, there's been times where we've

1002
00:31:19,948 --> 00:31:23,608
had our, our conversations and I've been
like, "Yeah, I'd really love it if you

1003
00:31:23,608 --> 00:31:27,108
did this, and I'd love it if you just…
You know, don't even worry about me.

1004
00:31:27,108 --> 00:31:29,858
Don't… I- if I'm, even if I'm in
the room, don't even think about me.

1005
00:31:29,858 --> 00:31:31,948
You go have your fun because-
Yeah … I'm watching."

1006
00:31:32,188 --> 00:31:32,398
Yeah.

1007
00:31:32,438 --> 00:31:33,718
And I think that's hot.

1008
00:31:34,148 --> 00:31:38,158
But then I also say that and
immediately hear it myself and sit

1009
00:31:38,158 --> 00:31:42,738
back and go, "What the fuck are
you saying, bro?" Are you serious?

1010
00:31:42,808 --> 00:31:48,388
Do you realize that she could just up
and say, 'I love this from now on, and

1011
00:31:48,408 --> 00:31:50,368
you just need to stay the fuck away'?

1012
00:31:50,798 --> 00:31:52,528
Uh, you know, that's always an option.

1013
00:31:52,528 --> 00:31:54,028
That's always something that could happen.

1014
00:31:54,028 --> 00:31:54,658
And it, it, it-

1015
00:31:54,828 --> 00:31:55,078
You?

1016
00:31:55,398 --> 00:31:55,688
You?

1017
00:31:55,688 --> 00:31:56,908
Oh, man, even as, as-

1018
00:31:56,938 --> 00:31:57,478
You

1019
00:31:57,548 --> 00:32:01,898
…
even as recent as a couple weeks
ago at the club- You … that

1020
00:32:01,898 --> 00:32:03,028
thought rang into my head.

1021
00:32:03,108 --> 00:32:03,388
Yeah.

1022
00:32:03,788 --> 00:32:04,788
Oh, my gosh.

1023
00:32:04,798 --> 00:32:06,208
And I know I have nothing to worry about-

1024
00:32:06,208 --> 00:32:06,503
No

1025
00:32:06,503 --> 00:32:08,598
…
but that's just a natural- I'm obsessed

1026
00:32:08,598 --> 00:32:08,968
feeling.

1027
00:32:09,258 --> 00:32:09,648
Oh, yeah.

1028
00:32:09,918 --> 00:32:10,148
Yeah.

1029
00:32:10,248 --> 00:32:12,078
And that's why it doesn't last very long.

1030
00:32:12,088 --> 00:32:12,298
Yeah.

1031
00:32:12,328 --> 00:32:15,048
That thought, it, you know, it
comes into me, and I'm like, "Jesus,

1032
00:32:15,058 --> 00:32:17,668
she can, she can end up-" I get
it … uh, you know, really enjoying.

1033
00:32:17,678 --> 00:32:17,698
Yeah.

1034
00:32:17,908 --> 00:32:20,548
Or like I've told you, you know,
yeah, you can date other women.

1035
00:32:20,568 --> 00:32:22,038
Like- Yeah … uh, that's fine.

1036
00:32:22,048 --> 00:32:23,928
You don't want me to date, I won't date.

1037
00:32:23,938 --> 00:32:26,801
But you have that ability to date
other women and do your thing-

1038
00:32:26,801 --> 00:32:27,648
Yeah … and enjoy yourself.

1039
00:32:28,188 --> 00:32:32,418
But then I say that, and then I sit
back and I go, "Gosh, but what if

1040
00:32:32,418 --> 00:32:37,868
she prefers it after a while?" And
then she's like, "Mm." Like, we have

1041
00:32:37,868 --> 00:32:40,888
a really good friend- Yeah … who
we've actually had on the show, uh,

1042
00:32:40,898 --> 00:32:43,758
who is dating a woman, and she's- Yeah

1043
00:32:43,758 --> 00:32:44,638
married to a man.

1044
00:32:44,808 --> 00:32:44,908
Yeah.

1045
00:32:44,948 --> 00:32:49,188
And, uh, you know, she's very happy
in her marriage, but she's also really

1046
00:32:49,208 --> 00:32:51,458
happy in her relationship with her lady.

1047
00:32:51,458 --> 00:32:51,468
I

1048
00:32:51,468 --> 00:32:52,028
know.

1049
00:32:52,108 --> 00:32:58,118
And I think that's so awesome, but
at the same time, um, two things.

1050
00:32:58,618 --> 00:33:02,478
You have always shown me so
much love and always been the

1051
00:33:02,478 --> 00:33:04,218
number one priority in your life

1052
00:33:04,248 --> 00:33:04,628
Yes

1053
00:33:05,128 --> 00:33:12,408
that if I was to end up being pushed back
to second place and your fawnings over

1054
00:33:12,418 --> 00:33:16,968
daily- Yeah … just so happened to be
your relationship with your lady, and I

1055
00:33:16,968 --> 00:33:20,638
had to take a backseat, I don't know, I
don't know how much I would like that.

1056
00:33:20,648 --> 00:33:22,008
You would never have a backseat.

1057
00:33:22,058 --> 00:33:25,188
Well, yeah, easier said than
done as far as here and now.

1058
00:33:25,348 --> 00:33:25,448
You just tell me.

1059
00:33:25,448 --> 00:33:28,168
But what if, what if you find
something like our friend

1060
00:33:28,168 --> 00:33:30,848
has, where you're that deep-

1061
00:33:31,198 --> 00:33:31,468
I

1062
00:33:31,468 --> 00:33:33,728
mean- … and you love it that much?

1063
00:33:33,898 --> 00:33:34,018
But she

1064
00:33:34,338 --> 00:33:34,468
loves her husband still.

1065
00:33:34,468 --> 00:33:36,898
And you go… Oh, no, th- th- no question.

1066
00:33:36,958 --> 00:33:37,148
Yeah.

1067
00:33:37,148 --> 00:33:37,768
No question.

1068
00:33:37,768 --> 00:33:41,288
And just, it works out because
her husband is very busy.

1069
00:33:41,288 --> 00:33:42,188
He works a lot.

1070
00:33:42,188 --> 00:33:42,358
Yeah.

1071
00:33:42,358 --> 00:33:45,268
And he's kind of one of those guys
where it's like, "Hey, go do your thing.

1072
00:33:45,628 --> 00:33:46,538
I'm chilling here at home.

1073
00:33:46,598 --> 00:33:47,598
I don't mind being by myself."

1074
00:33:48,098 --> 00:33:49,168
That's how you are.

1075
00:33:49,228 --> 00:33:52,938
Ah, that's how I am because
I rarely get time alone.

1076
00:33:53,858 --> 00:33:53,888
What?

1077
00:33:54,478 --> 00:33:56,018
I rarely get time away from you.

1078
00:33:56,138 --> 00:33:56,498
Yes.

1079
00:33:56,838 --> 00:33:56,858
Yeah.

1080
00:33:56,868 --> 00:33:57,888
Except for during the workday.

1081
00:33:57,898 --> 00:33:58,258
Yeah.

1082
00:33:58,448 --> 00:33:59,758
But I'm talking about,
like, weekend times.

1083
00:33:59,758 --> 00:34:00,168
Yeah, I get it.

1084
00:34:00,168 --> 00:34:00,548
You know, stuff like that.

1085
00:34:00,548 --> 00:34:00,758
Yeah.

1086
00:34:00,948 --> 00:34:02,218
I'm rarely away from- I, I,

1087
00:34:02,268 --> 00:34:03,298
well, you would never be second.

1088
00:34:03,648 --> 00:34:04,308
No, I know that.

1089
00:34:04,338 --> 00:34:04,768
Never.

1090
00:34:04,778 --> 00:34:05,043
I mean-

1091
00:34:05,043 --> 00:34:07,338
But the, but what I'm saying is- But you
have not- … those thoughts do- Yeah.

1092
00:34:07,348 --> 00:34:08,658
Wow … those thoughts do come in.

1093
00:34:08,668 --> 00:34:10,978
That's- And, and they stick around
a little bit every now and then.

1094
00:34:11,128 --> 00:34:11,248
Oh.

1095
00:34:11,608 --> 00:34:12,458
Yeah, they come and go.

1096
00:34:12,798 --> 00:34:17,008
Uh, but I have, you know, I have
thought about that whenever I

1097
00:34:17,008 --> 00:34:18,608
tell you, "Yeah, go, go be slutty.

1098
00:34:18,608 --> 00:34:22,348
Go have a good time." And, and,
and in, in realistic hopes-

1099
00:34:22,528 --> 00:34:22,698
Yeah

1100
00:34:23,018 --> 00:34:27,748
…
that you have good experiences,
really find this side of you-

1101
00:34:27,788 --> 00:34:28,158
Yeah

1102
00:34:28,488 --> 00:34:29,708
…
and enjoy yourself.

1103
00:34:29,918 --> 00:34:33,098
Because that's what it comes down to,
is, is- Wow … is not necessarily

1104
00:34:33,338 --> 00:34:37,628
doing it for your husband- Yeah … but
doing it to find your inner, "I

1105
00:34:37,748 --> 00:34:40,728
like this." I mean, I- Because
everybody has it, different versions.

1106
00:34:40,728 --> 00:34:40,908
I

1107
00:34:41,078 --> 00:34:44,448
like, I like being the
center of attention.

1108
00:34:44,608 --> 00:34:44,998
Really?

1109
00:34:45,418 --> 00:34:46,228
Yes.

1110
00:34:46,398 --> 00:34:47,668
I thought you hated attention.

1111
00:34:47,668 --> 00:34:48,208
No.

1112
00:34:48,208 --> 00:34:50,418
I don't like individual attention.

1113
00:34:50,428 --> 00:34:54,708
Like, I like if it's, like, s- a few
people and I'm the center of attention.

1114
00:34:54,978 --> 00:34:55,608
Roger that.

1115
00:34:55,648 --> 00:34:59,898
But if it's, like, one person just giving
me attention, it creeps me out sometimes.

1116
00:35:00,678 --> 00:35:01,398
I don't know why.

1117
00:35:02,208 --> 00:35:03,608
Like, I'm not worthy.

1118
00:35:03,608 --> 00:35:04,268
Like, stop.

1119
00:35:04,608 --> 00:35:05,468
I need more.

1120
00:35:05,868 --> 00:35:08,958
You know, that's… I, I have always
known you- I don't know … to

1121
00:35:08,958 --> 00:35:11,758
hate, uh, attention on, on the norm.

1122
00:35:11,768 --> 00:35:12,588
Individual attention.

1123
00:35:12,588 --> 00:35:12,598
Individual

1124
00:35:12,598 --> 00:35:12,608
attention.

1125
00:35:12,608 --> 00:35:12,928
Yeah.

1126
00:35:13,148 --> 00:35:16,828
Um, but I guess, like, doing a live show
in a crowd- Yeah, doing a live show.

1127
00:35:16,828 --> 00:35:17,378
Yeah … or just having a

1128
00:35:17,788 --> 00:35:17,808
b-

1129
00:35:18,248 --> 00:35:20,508
a bunch of guys surrounding
you and everybody's into

1130
00:35:20,508 --> 00:35:21,548
you, that you're good with.

1131
00:35:21,648 --> 00:35:22,228
That I'm good with.

1132
00:35:22,608 --> 00:35:22,768
Okay.

1133
00:35:23,268 --> 00:35:23,788
Okay.

1134
00:35:24,168 --> 00:35:25,018
That I'm good with.

1135
00:35:25,518 --> 00:35:26,898
But individual attention, no.

1136
00:35:26,898 --> 00:35:27,378
No.

1137
00:35:27,948 --> 00:35:29,818
And see, that was conversations
that we always had, 'cause

1138
00:35:29,858 --> 00:35:31,088
I always wanted attention.

1139
00:35:31,168 --> 00:35:31,568
Yeah.

1140
00:35:31,708 --> 00:35:33,008
And you always got attention.

1141
00:35:33,008 --> 00:35:33,438
Yeah.

1142
00:35:33,438 --> 00:35:36,448
And you're like, "Oh, I hate getting
all of this attention." And I'm like,

1143
00:35:36,498 --> 00:35:37,818
"Uh, you could sweep some this way."

1144
00:35:37,848 --> 00:35:37,998
Oh, wait.

1145
00:35:38,028 --> 00:35:39,308
I was saying that for a reason.

1146
00:35:39,308 --> 00:35:40,808
You made me miss what I was gonna say.

1147
00:35:40,838 --> 00:35:41,378
I made you.

1148
00:35:41,848 --> 00:35:48,328
I'm going out and to try to see if I
like this slutty behavior, and I'm,

1149
00:35:48,388 --> 00:35:50,638
um… It's kinda weird still for me.

1150
00:35:51,058 --> 00:35:55,338
I tell you what, though, uh, wannabe
slut, let me tell you something.

1151
00:35:55,568 --> 00:35:56,058
What?

1152
00:35:56,558 --> 00:35:59,588
I think I unlocked a new
fantasy for you last night.

1153
00:36:00,088 --> 00:36:00,818
You think so?

1154
00:36:00,868 --> 00:36:05,058
I think so because I have not seen you
respond in the way that you responded-

1155
00:36:05,738 --> 00:36:10,788
… until I started talking about how
you were gonna go out with this guy.

1156
00:36:10,868 --> 00:36:11,378
Uh-huh.

1157
00:36:11,388 --> 00:36:16,828
And if you really liked it, after
you had your date, if you wanted to

1158
00:36:16,828 --> 00:36:21,138
invite him out to our local, uh, spots-

1159
00:36:21,328 --> 00:36:21,678
Yeah

1160
00:36:21,728 --> 00:36:26,598
uh, both he and I can accompany you
for the night and be your dates.

1161
00:36:27,008 --> 00:36:31,258
And out in the open, in front of
everybody, you can very much make

1162
00:36:31,258 --> 00:36:34,198
out with me, and you- Yeah … can
make out with him and do your thing.

1163
00:36:34,578 --> 00:36:37,188
And that hit- Ooh … a spot.

1164
00:36:37,288 --> 00:36:39,378
It, I- center of attention.

1165
00:36:39,538 --> 00:36:40,678
Is that what it is?

1166
00:36:40,678 --> 00:36:41,328
Look at that.

1167
00:36:41,408 --> 00:36:41,818
Hmm.

1168
00:36:42,248 --> 00:36:42,878
Evolutionary.

1169
00:36:42,888 --> 00:36:42,928
I love

1170
00:36:43,138 --> 00:36:45,478
to, uh, f- yes.

1171
00:36:45,608 --> 00:36:46,168
Oh, man.

1172
00:36:46,338 --> 00:36:46,618
Forget

1173
00:36:46,618 --> 00:36:46,708
it.

1174
00:36:46,708 --> 00:36:47,738
That's why when you-

1175
00:36:47,748 --> 00:36:49,468
Niagara Falls- That's
why- … Frankie Angel.

1176
00:36:49,968 --> 00:36:52,138
So I like center of at- like that.

1177
00:36:52,198 --> 00:36:56,618
Um, that's why I was like, "Fuck yeah,
I'll date, I'll date a, a couple."

1178
00:36:56,958 --> 00:36:57,248
Yeah.

1179
00:36:57,278 --> 00:36:57,888
Hell yeah.

1180
00:36:57,898 --> 00:36:58,379
'
Cause you like to be
the center of attention.

1181
00:36:58,379 --> 00:36:58,423
I

1182
00:36:58,423 --> 00:37:01,838
can have a woman and a man be a
lo- yes, I will so date a couple.

1183
00:37:01,968 --> 00:37:02,278
Yeah?

1184
00:37:02,728 --> 00:37:03,838
I have to like both of y'all, though.

1185
00:37:04,738 --> 00:37:07,628
That's a, you know, I think that's
easier said than done because

1186
00:37:07,638 --> 00:37:09,828
you're, y- if you're talking
about dating, I mean, that's-

1187
00:37:09,948 --> 00:37:10,298
Yeah

1188
00:37:10,468 --> 00:37:11,198
that's a lot.

1189
00:37:11,208 --> 00:37:14,188
That, that's a lot of connection that
you have to make equally with both-

1190
00:37:14,328 --> 00:37:17,408
Yeah … and that's just a, I don't
know, that's, that's a tough sell for me.

1191
00:37:17,948 --> 00:37:24,408
Uh, but I think that I have
looked at slutty behavior, uh,

1192
00:37:24,838 --> 00:37:26,648
as, like, an open playing field.

1193
00:37:26,748 --> 00:37:27,318
Yeah.

1194
00:37:27,608 --> 00:37:27,798
You know what I mean?

1195
00:37:27,798 --> 00:37:28,118
Yeah.

1196
00:37:28,118 --> 00:37:33,278
It's, it's like, it's like us showing
up and saying before we even get

1197
00:37:33,278 --> 00:37:38,058
started, "Okay, uh, we're both gonna,
you know, have this opportunity."

1198
00:37:38,068 --> 00:37:38,288
Do our thing.

1199
00:37:38,288 --> 00:37:38,978
"Go do your thing." Yeah.

1200
00:37:38,978 --> 00:37:40,668
"Don't forget to check
in with each other."

1201
00:37:40,808 --> 00:37:41,038
Yeah.

1202
00:37:41,068 --> 00:37:42,918
"
If you don't wanna do
anything, I'm right here.

1203
00:37:42,918 --> 00:37:44,808
You can be here, but let's go have fun."

1204
00:37:44,908 --> 00:37:45,138
Yeah.

1205
00:37:45,308 --> 00:37:46,858
Uh, and then I'll see you
at the end of the night.

1206
00:37:46,868 --> 00:37:46,888
Yeah.

1207
00:37:46,898 --> 00:37:47,798
You know, that sort of thing.

1208
00:37:48,108 --> 00:37:51,088
I think that is a major, major turn-on.

1209
00:37:51,138 --> 00:37:51,818
It is.

1210
00:37:51,838 --> 00:37:52,258
Yeah.

1211
00:37:52,478 --> 00:37:53,038
It is.

1212
00:37:53,038 --> 00:37:53,268
Yeah.

1213
00:37:53,298 --> 00:37:56,048
Now, you know, there is one thing
I did wanna bring up, though,

1214
00:37:56,168 --> 00:37:58,148
uh, is, is the double standard.

1215
00:37:58,838 --> 00:37:59,058
Oh.

1216
00:37:59,118 --> 00:38:01,328
Uh, and that's something that we
touched up on at the beginning.

1217
00:38:01,338 --> 00:38:01,748
Yeah, because-

1218
00:38:01,748 --> 00:38:03,588
Um, there is a major double standard.

1219
00:38:03,608 --> 00:38:05,298
Obviously the definition itself-

1220
00:38:05,308 --> 00:38:05,538
Has

1221
00:38:05,548 --> 00:38:07,028
women, women, women … refers to women-

1222
00:38:07,068 --> 00:38:07,448
Yeah

1223
00:38:07,448 --> 00:38:07,948
not men.

1224
00:38:07,948 --> 00:38:09,268
Of course, that was the 1400s.

1225
00:38:09,278 --> 00:38:09,298
Yeah.

1226
00:38:09,308 --> 00:38:12,088
That was, uh, you know, I
mean, throughout the years

1227
00:38:12,128 --> 00:38:13,548
And you ask what they call men

1228
00:38:13,558 --> 00:38:15,378
…
the misogynistic times.

1229
00:38:15,838 --> 00:38:19,338
Uh, but, uh, that is a very good question.

1230
00:38:19,388 --> 00:38:19,788
Yeah.

1231
00:38:19,908 --> 00:38:23,548
What do you call a man
who acts the same way?

1232
00:38:23,568 --> 00:38:24,378
Just a man, baby.

1233
00:38:24,408 --> 00:38:25,458
Um, you know, I- In

1234
00:38:25,458 --> 00:38:27,948
these times, it literally is just a man.

1235
00:38:27,978 --> 00:38:32,638
It is so okay for you guys to go
sleep around, and it is so okay, not

1236
00:38:33,058 --> 00:38:36,138
frowned upon, especially with our age.

1237
00:38:36,148 --> 00:38:36,558
Mm-hmm.

1238
00:38:36,568 --> 00:38:36,788
Mm-hmm.

1239
00:38:36,798 --> 00:38:39,008
Our age group- Yeah … it's
not frowned upon.

1240
00:38:39,018 --> 00:38:40,468
You can do whatever you want.

1241
00:38:40,978 --> 00:38:41,928
That's crazy.

1242
00:38:41,928 --> 00:38:45,198
But I- I mean- … you know, I hate to
say it, it's kinda true … but- Like,

1243
00:38:45,228 --> 00:38:49,732
I can, if I were to uh, cheat on you.

1244
00:38:49,862 --> 00:38:50,252
Yeah.

1245
00:38:50,392 --> 00:38:51,992
Like, i- if we were monogamous-

1246
00:38:52,192 --> 00:38:52,442
Yeah

1247
00:38:52,482 --> 00:38:53,932
…
and I were to cheat on you-

1248
00:38:53,942 --> 00:38:54,372
Yeah

1249
00:38:54,462 --> 00:38:59,152
…
I could easily find a group
of friends who would help me-

1250
00:38:59,452 --> 00:38:59,802
Oh, yeah

1251
00:38:59,812 --> 00:39:01,092
…
keep that on the low.

1252
00:39:01,212 --> 00:39:01,522
Yeah.

1253
00:39:01,702 --> 00:39:02,132
You know?

1254
00:39:02,392 --> 00:39:05,182
Because guys will have each other's
back on that most of the time.

1255
00:39:05,182 --> 00:39:05,492
For

1256
00:39:05,592 --> 00:39:06,062
sure.

1257
00:39:06,372 --> 00:39:08,072
Um, and sometimes women-

1258
00:39:08,072 --> 00:39:09,512
Oh, women will have your back

1259
00:39:09,522 --> 00:39:10,212
women will have your back.

1260
00:39:10,212 --> 00:39:10,472
Yeah.

1261
00:39:10,472 --> 00:39:10,902
You know, it's kinda yeesh.

1262
00:39:11,402 --> 00:39:13,282
Then I have to go, "Everybody."

1263
00:39:13,502 --> 00:39:14,022
Oh my gosh.

1264
00:39:14,082 --> 00:39:14,772
Hey, easy there, pal.

1265
00:39:15,702 --> 00:39:17,202
This is a public venue.

1266
00:39:17,752 --> 00:39:20,482
That was me cutting their
wires to their phone.

1267
00:39:20,622 --> 00:39:21,972
Oh, okay.

1268
00:39:22,342 --> 00:39:23,492
You can't charge these.

1269
00:39:23,502 --> 00:39:24,022
Gotcha.

1270
00:39:24,752 --> 00:39:25,732
Thank you for specifying.

1271
00:39:26,302 --> 00:39:31,042
Um, yeah, so it, it's interesting
the double standard because, uh, you

1272
00:39:31,042 --> 00:39:36,392
know, growing up, uh, I, I knew that
women were referred to as slutty.

1273
00:39:36,402 --> 00:39:36,422
Yeah.

1274
00:39:36,762 --> 00:39:40,242
Me personally, I was a fan of
the ones that were referred

1275
00:39:40,242 --> 00:39:41,992
to as slutty in high school.

1276
00:39:42,242 --> 00:39:45,222
Uh, those are normally the ones that
I had crushes on, I'm not gonna lie.

1277
00:39:45,572 --> 00:39:49,442
Um, but, uh, those were also the
ones that I was not in their realm.

1278
00:39:49,812 --> 00:39:50,042
Yeah.

1279
00:39:50,052 --> 00:39:52,832
Um, and I always secretly sought after.

1280
00:39:53,272 --> 00:39:58,762
The guys that would refer to these
women as sluts or these girls as sluts,

1281
00:39:59,212 --> 00:40:04,652
uh, normally claimed to have gotten
it, and I never quite understood that.

1282
00:40:04,652 --> 00:40:08,552
It's like you're gonna be derogatory
about them, slut-shaming them, but you're

1283
00:40:08,552 --> 00:40:11,762
claiming to have slept with them, and
all your friends are high-fiving you.

1284
00:40:11,852 --> 00:40:12,112
Yeah.

1285
00:40:12,122 --> 00:40:13,892
Like, it was very, uh, after- I didn't

1286
00:40:13,892 --> 00:40:14,152
get that

1287
00:40:14,402 --> 00:40:15,712
…
school teen special, you

1288
00:40:15,712 --> 00:40:16,052
know?

1289
00:40:16,052 --> 00:40:16,162
Yeah,

1290
00:40:16,212 --> 00:40:17,012
I didn't get that.

1291
00:40:17,032 --> 00:40:21,052
I was like, "Why?" But it…
That's what I'm saying, it was

1292
00:40:21,062 --> 00:40:23,382
only the guys who didn't get it-

1293
00:40:23,542 --> 00:40:23,862
Yeah

1294
00:40:24,212 --> 00:40:26,252
are the ones who would call them sluts.

1295
00:40:26,252 --> 00:40:26,822
That's interesting.

1296
00:40:26,862 --> 00:40:28,092
Like, I would be called a slut- But

1297
00:40:28,092 --> 00:40:28,622
I didn't

1298
00:40:28,752 --> 00:40:30,652
get it … because I
didn't wanna give it up.

1299
00:40:30,822 --> 00:40:33,792
And so not- I didn't get it … giving it
up was me being a tease, not giving it up.

1300
00:40:33,792 --> 00:40:35,172
That's true, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1301
00:40:35,182 --> 00:40:35,202
So.

1302
00:40:35,212 --> 00:40:40,562
Well, see, I, I didn't get it,
but I also didn't pressure people

1303
00:40:40,572 --> 00:40:43,322
to get it, uh, because- Yeah

1304
00:40:43,372 --> 00:40:44,642
I was raised a little gentleman.

1305
00:40:45,012 --> 00:40:50,752
Uh, so I was… I just didn't…
I wanted somebody to give it to me

1306
00:40:51,272 --> 00:40:53,262
because they wanted to give it to me.

1307
00:40:53,782 --> 00:40:55,682
You wanted them to give you their flower.

1308
00:40:56,582 --> 00:40:57,152
That's right.

1309
00:40:57,652 --> 00:40:59,882
A plethora of flowers.

1310
00:41:00,662 --> 00:41:04,072
Um, I, I, I wanted, I
wanted it to be- Yeah.

1311
00:41:04,072 --> 00:41:06,672
Give in … I wanted somebody
to want me and say- Yeah

1312
00:41:06,672 --> 00:41:09,812
"I wanna give this to you," and
I would've been like, "Fuck yes."

1313
00:41:10,152 --> 00:41:13,952
Uh, but I didn't wanna go, "Hey,
you know, m- let me take it out.

1314
00:41:13,962 --> 00:41:14,552
You wanna touch it?

1315
00:41:14,922 --> 00:41:15,272
Touch it.

1316
00:41:15,492 --> 00:41:18,192
Come on, just touch it." Like,
I shouldn't have to convince

1317
00:41:18,202 --> 00:41:19,452
somebody to touch my penis.

1318
00:41:19,522 --> 00:41:19,672
Oh

1319
00:41:19,672 --> 00:41:20,282
my God.

1320
00:41:20,292 --> 00:41:22,112
Um- I've had a lot of convincing.

1321
00:41:22,172 --> 00:41:22,622
I know.

1322
00:41:22,622 --> 00:41:23,612
I've heard your stories.

1323
00:41:23,922 --> 00:41:25,782
And then I didn't give it
up and he called me a slut.

1324
00:41:25,972 --> 00:41:26,872
That's incredible.

1325
00:41:26,922 --> 00:41:27,532
That's, and-

1326
00:41:27,762 --> 00:41:28,112
Yeah

1327
00:41:28,122 --> 00:41:29,452
…
I mean, quite the opposite.

1328
00:41:29,452 --> 00:41:31,722
I was never, like,
butthurt about it though.

1329
00:41:31,752 --> 00:41:34,042
I was never butthurt
about being called names.

1330
00:41:34,142 --> 00:41:34,432
Yeah?

1331
00:41:34,512 --> 00:41:34,852
Yeah.

1332
00:41:34,862 --> 00:41:36,662
I was just like, "Huh. Okay."

1333
00:41:36,942 --> 00:41:40,592
So let me ask you, w- when it
comes to slutty behavior, yes,

1334
00:41:40,642 --> 00:41:41,472
uh, you know, I would- Yeah

1335
00:41:41,472 --> 00:41:43,492
love for you to be more
slutty, et cetera, et cetera.

1336
00:41:43,492 --> 00:41:47,282
But from a woman's mind who is
in the lifestyle, especially

1337
00:41:47,282 --> 00:41:48,992
somebody who's been in 15 years-

1338
00:41:49,002 --> 00:41:49,382
Uh-huh

1339
00:41:50,102 --> 00:41:54,132
…
when you see another woman in
the lifestyle who you don't know-

1340
00:41:54,722 --> 00:41:54,962
Uh-huh

1341
00:41:54,992 --> 00:41:59,912
…
but you do see very obviously
exuding major slutty behavior with

1342
00:41:59,912 --> 00:42:02,232
several people, say in the club-

1343
00:42:02,482 --> 00:42:02,722
Yeah

1344
00:42:02,742 --> 00:42:08,912
or wherever, is there any tinge
of judgment, uh, that makes you

1345
00:42:08,912 --> 00:42:13,222
go, "Ooh. Hmm. Stay away from my
husband," or anything like that?

1346
00:42:13,722 --> 00:42:14,092
No.

1347
00:42:14,222 --> 00:42:14,492
No?

1348
00:42:14,962 --> 00:42:16,522
Um, no.

1349
00:42:16,892 --> 00:42:20,972
Now, I know you are a big believer
in, uh, if I see that person

1350
00:42:20,972 --> 00:42:24,082
kissing someone I don't approve
of, you cannot kiss my husband.

1351
00:42:24,242 --> 00:42:24,622
Yes.

1352
00:42:25,162 --> 00:42:25,362
That's more of a personal thing.

1353
00:42:25,462 --> 00:42:28,572
Um, no, I don't care how many,
how many partners they have.

1354
00:42:28,642 --> 00:42:30,652
Um- You wrap it.

1355
00:42:31,302 --> 00:42:31,662
Yeah.

1356
00:42:31,732 --> 00:42:32,162
That's true.

1357
00:42:32,162 --> 00:42:32,502
And you know

1358
00:42:32,502 --> 00:42:32,562
what?

1359
00:42:32,562 --> 00:42:33,822
And, and you, we test.

1360
00:42:33,852 --> 00:42:34,132
Yeah.

1361
00:42:34,132 --> 00:42:38,052
And so no, I, um, no, I
don't care what they do.

1362
00:42:38,062 --> 00:42:43,512
That's… I think that's the fun
part of the lifestyle is that you

1363
00:42:43,512 --> 00:42:48,072
can be that expressive and not have
any judging, no anybody judging you.

1364
00:42:48,102 --> 00:42:49,572
And no, I don't- In

1365
00:42:49,572 --> 00:42:50,092
theory.

1366
00:42:50,112 --> 00:42:50,829
I mean, there's still- In

1367
00:42:50,829 --> 00:42:50,972
theory

1368
00:42:50,972 --> 00:42:51,652
slut-shaming, man.

1369
00:42:51,652 --> 00:42:52,222
I mean-

1370
00:42:52,232 --> 00:42:53,392
There is slut-shaming.

1371
00:42:53,432 --> 00:42:55,992
Let me tell you, I have talked
to couples- Oh my gosh … in our

1372
00:42:56,022 --> 00:43:00,862
community who very specifically have
said, "Well, if I see that you have

1373
00:43:00,862 --> 00:43:05,012
sex with too many people, I lose
interest." And that I find interesting.

1374
00:43:05,012 --> 00:43:06,482
It's like- You're basically slut-shaming.

1375
00:43:06,482 --> 00:43:08,072
Do you- That's cool, you
can lose interest, but

1376
00:43:08,212 --> 00:43:08,532
you

1377
00:43:08,532 --> 00:43:08,692
don't have

1378
00:43:09,402 --> 00:43:10,182
to say that Yeah, you don't
have to say it because- Because

1379
00:43:10,182 --> 00:43:10,702
you're slut-shaming

1380
00:43:10,702 --> 00:43:11,332
it's the lifestyle.

1381
00:43:11,332 --> 00:43:11,582
Yeah.

1382
00:43:11,592 --> 00:43:11,832
Yeah.

1383
00:43:11,832 --> 00:43:12,562
That's ridiculous.

1384
00:43:12,562 --> 00:43:16,162
But then the opposite is also true
because, uh, I have seen people get

1385
00:43:16,162 --> 00:43:17,772
shamed for not sleeping with anybody.

1386
00:43:18,572 --> 00:43:20,952
So I guess no matter
what community you go to-

1387
00:43:21,242 --> 00:43:22,012
It doesn't matter

1388
00:43:22,012 --> 00:43:23,732
…
you're gonna get shamed
one way or another.

1389
00:43:23,742 --> 00:43:23,762
Yeah.

1390
00:43:23,762 --> 00:43:26,042
So you might as well do
what makes you feel happy.

1391
00:43:26,072 --> 00:43:26,432
Yeah.

1392
00:43:26,612 --> 00:43:26,922
Yeah.

1393
00:43:26,932 --> 00:43:29,062
But no, I don't ever,
um, I don't ever shame.

1394
00:43:29,292 --> 00:43:31,752
Like it, it's… I was just-
Can you show me your ways?

1395
00:43:31,882 --> 00:43:34,692
I was just curious what
your thoughts would be.

1396
00:43:34,692 --> 00:43:34,712
Yeah.

1397
00:43:34,742 --> 00:43:35,353
I mean, younger- Like if
something came up like

1398
00:43:35,353 --> 00:43:36,492
that and- Younger Priscilla?

1399
00:43:36,522 --> 00:43:36,742
Yeah.

1400
00:43:36,782 --> 00:43:37,902
Oh, most definitely.

1401
00:43:37,972 --> 00:43:38,302
Yeah?

1402
00:43:38,392 --> 00:43:38,892
Yeah.

1403
00:43:39,542 --> 00:43:39,792
Mm.

1404
00:43:40,022 --> 00:43:45,192
Younger, younger, hurt and,
you know, un- uneducated, very

1405
00:43:45,192 --> 00:43:47,172
insecure Priscilla, for sure.

1406
00:43:47,452 --> 00:43:49,902
Very jealous that I
couldn't be that person.

1407
00:43:50,402 --> 00:43:50,952
So yeah.

1408
00:43:51,082 --> 00:43:53,542
Now do you, would you have realized
that back then- No … when

1409
00:43:53,542 --> 00:43:54,882
you were passing judgment?

1410
00:43:54,912 --> 00:43:55,162
No.

1411
00:43:55,162 --> 00:43:55,172
That,

1412
00:43:55,172 --> 00:43:57,202
that it was because of a jealousy thing?

1413
00:43:57,212 --> 00:43:57,582
No.

1414
00:43:57,652 --> 00:43:57,852
No?

1415
00:43:57,902 --> 00:43:58,532
Uh-uh.

1416
00:43:58,582 --> 00:43:58,612
No.

1417
00:43:58,612 --> 00:43:59,302
That's interesting.

1418
00:43:59,562 --> 00:44:00,502
Well, you know what?

1419
00:44:00,772 --> 00:44:02,102
I think this was a great conversation.

1420
00:44:02,102 --> 00:44:05,952
This is gonna wrap us up for today,
but before we let you go, I just

1421
00:44:05,952 --> 00:44:10,872
wanna let you know we've got our live
show running every Thursday night

1422
00:44:11,042 --> 00:44:14,072
at 7:00 PM to 8:00 PM Central Time.

1423
00:44:14,452 --> 00:44:14,682
Yes.

1424
00:44:14,992 --> 00:44:16,092
Right on our website.

1425
00:44:16,092 --> 00:44:19,972
So pull up a chair, chat with us
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1426
00:44:19,972 --> 00:44:20,922
You can interact with us.

1427
00:44:20,952 --> 00:44:22,462
It's a lot of fun.

1428
00:44:22,612 --> 00:44:23,392
Yes.

1429
00:44:23,472 --> 00:44:24,302
It is a lot of fun.

1430
00:44:24,302 --> 00:44:25,052
It is a lot of fun.

1431
00:44:25,052 --> 00:44:25,342
It is.

1432
00:44:25,672 --> 00:44:30,162
And speaking of the website,
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1433
00:44:30,172 --> 00:44:35,502
everything, full episodes, the blog, our
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1434
00:44:36,112 --> 00:44:37,192
I like that confessional.

1435
00:44:37,272 --> 00:44:37,572
Yeah.

1436
00:44:37,652 --> 00:44:37,762
I

1437
00:44:37,942 --> 00:44:38,168
do too.

1438
00:44:38,168 --> 00:44:42,082
If, if you got something on your mind
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1439
00:44:42,082 --> 00:44:45,842
show, whatever it is, you can drop
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1440
00:44:45,942 --> 00:44:47,802
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1441
00:44:47,872 --> 00:44:48,502
We just might.

1442
00:44:48,522 --> 00:44:55,082
You can also catch us streaming
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1443
00:44:55,122 --> 00:44:56,902
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1444
00:44:57,598 --> 00:44:58,908
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1445
00:44:58,918 --> 00:45:03,568
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1446
00:45:03,568 --> 00:45:06,908
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00:45:06,948 --> 00:45:07,578
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1450
00:45:14,218 --> 00:45:17,008
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1451
00:45:17,008 --> 00:45:19,878
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1452
00:45:19,888 --> 00:45:20,218
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1458
00:45:31,228 --> 00:45:31,758
Yes.

1459
00:45:31,898 --> 00:45:35,868
And with that, we thank you all
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1460
00:45:35,908 --> 00:45:37,498
and we will see you guys next week.

1461
00:45:37,578 --> 00:45:38,618
Bye.