June 29, 2025

The High Costs of Swinging: An Honest Look

The High Costs of Swinging: An Honest Look
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The High Costs of Swinging: An Honest Look

In this episode of Beyond Monogamy, hosts Adam and Pris dive into the financial realities of swinging. They discuss the various costs involved in the lifestyle, from babysitting fees to subscription-based websites, and how it can quickly add up. Adam and Pris share their personal experiences of navigating these expenses with limited budgets in the beginning. They touch on essential costs like grooming and gym memberships, and discuss strategies for managing these expenses. This episode provides a candid look at the financial commitments involved in the swinging lifestyle, offering practical advice for those willing to explore this lifestyle on a budget.

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Hello and welcome to Beyond Monogamy. I'm Adam. And I'm

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Bris. And today we're talking about the expenses

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of being a swinger. The high expenses, I mean,

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because if you're new to the lifestyle, if you're new to

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the community of lifestyle, if you're new to this whole journey and

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say, I don't know, money's tight, you're gonna

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learn very quickly that things add up. Things.

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This lifestyle can be expensive. Yes.

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Can it be done for less? Yeah. Can it

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be done on a budget? I would think so. I would think

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it's possible. Yeah. What I found when we first

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started was because when we

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first started, you and I, we had very little money when we first got

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together. Yes. And we were, you know, we were

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living together, cut off by finances when we moved in. Yeah.

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Because your. Your. Your mom was like, sorry, but now

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that you're with him, it's his job to pay your rent. She was.

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Damn it. She was done after the last one. Oh, dude, such a

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bummer on that one. Bye. Bye, money. And so. And, you know, we had.

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We had four kids, and so money was tight,

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and we were working all the time, and the little bit of money that we

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had, we just couldn't really justify it. And I remember always

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saying, I can't justify spending money for sex

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stuff. No. Well, let's. Let's even start even

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further, huh? Let's start as

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parents. Parents with. With kids.

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Nannies. Oh, man. So, like, even before you

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think about going out, if you have children that

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are unable to stay alone, then you have the cost

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of. Even if you want to go out anywhere,

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the cost of a. Of a babysitter. Yeah. You know, not everybody has a family

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member. Yeah. Like, they're and readily available. So for instance,

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we had a nanny, and we had to pay for her. We would pay for

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her for, like, the whole weekend sometimes because, you know,

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we didn't do it very often because we

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really wanted to. To be with our children. So when we did that right there

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Is a cost. Yeah, like, that's a. That's a major cost.

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So, okay, you have your babysitter, right. Which can run

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anywhere from, like, I think right now people pay even, like,

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20 bucks an hour. Oh, you know, I could be wrong.

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Wow. You know, 20 bucks an hour for,

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like, four hours. That's. Yeah, yeah. You know, that's 80 bucks

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right there. Yeah. Or like, say, you know, you're even

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Your dogs. I mean, we've. We've had a situation where we. We didn't have

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kids and we wanted to go somewhere, and it's like, well, who's going to take

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care of the dogs? Watch the dogs. Yeah, yeah. And so then we got to

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pay for somebody to take care of that, you know? Exactly. So those. So those

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are like the beginning cost, right? Those. Those. And those can be pretty high.

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Okay, so then you say, all right, let's look for somewhere

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to go. So this was the first experience that I had for. That was,

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where do we find people? Right. And that's where you introduced

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me to the websites. AdultFriendFinder.com was,

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I think, one of them Swing Lifestyle.com. those. Those were the

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two that we really were on.

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And of course, you can set up free profiles with them,

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but you realize that with free profiles,

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you can't do dick. Like, there's. There's nothing. Like,

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you really can't see anything. You can't message with people.

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And of course, they. I think they do this thing on those websites

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where if you're a free profile, you know, you can

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only send off, like, three messages or three to five messages,

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whatever it is, before it cuts you off. And it'll

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always show that you have messages waiting for you in your inbox,

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but you can't check your inbox until. Until you pay.

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Yeah. So then it's like the anticipation of. Man, people are

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messaging me, and I can't even see who it is because I'm

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not paying for it. So then it just pushes you to pay for it.

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Yeah. And these things are not cheap. I mean, there's been.

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Yeah. The websites are not. I think, like, some of them are.

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I think we monthly. Some of them are yearly. So with.

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I. I want to say with Swing Lifestyle and this was. This was a good

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long time ago, but we paid. Eventually. We paid

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for the. I think we. We paid for the year or we

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paid to be lifetime members. So I think we're lifetime members,

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but we just don't utilize it anymore. Yeah. And that could be from like 20

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to $40. It was expensive. A month.

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Oh, my goodness. But we were. We were lifetime members,

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so we had. So we paid this, like. I think it was like 300 bucks

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or whatever. And that gave us lifetime. It was close to paying.

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You know how people pay yearly? And I was like, why would somebody pay

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just short of that yearly when they can just

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pay a little bit more and just be lifetime members? I never quite understood that,

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but whatever. I. I realized that those websites, like,

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I said they were expensive, and I told you a couple times,

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I was like, you know what? When things got tight and we had to budget,

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and you were like, we. We can't. We're gonna have to turn off this.

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And it's like, okay, that's fine. Yeah. And I think by then we

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had met a few people through the Facebook group.

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Yeah. Which is a. Which is free. Yeah. And that's

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why I always like the Facebook groups was. Because that's free. Yeah.

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And it just seems a little bit easier to stay local. You just don't know

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who is kind of lurking, who has a fake profile.

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Yeah. Not. Not everybody's really good at verifying,

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you. Know, so we've done a show on how Priscilla verifies.

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Yeah. So, you know, right off the bat, the websites

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are expensive. Now, outside of the websites,

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the new age stuff would be the apps. And we've done the

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apps. You know, we've done three Fun, and there's a

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few others out there that we did. Yeah. And it's the same thing with.

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With those apps where it shows you,

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you know, you can create a free profile and you can swipe

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through so many profiles per day, but eventually,

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because you're free, it'll. It'll cut off at. At some point. Right.

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And you can't really message very many people.

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And it shows that you have all these notifications, but you can't always read

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them all until you pay for it. Yeah. And these things are like 30

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to $50 a month to

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pay for. That's crazy. 30 to $50.

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My workout apps are cheaper than that. My music apps

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are cheaper. Yeah. I could not justify that. And I think I've said several times

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over, I'm like, you know, I just can't justify that expense

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because back then it was like, we weren't looking

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for friendships, we were looking

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for experiences. Right. And so. So that's why we went to things like that.

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Right. We weren't. Yeah. Yeah. We weren't. We weren't really a

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part of the community. Yeah. We didn't have. We didn't have access to Any

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of that. Right. Like. Right. We don't, we weren't even

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like thinking into those kind of groups. Like we didn't even

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know they existed. Exactly. Well, we didn't think that this was an actual community.

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Like we looked at it. Now it's, it is a community.

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Yeah. And there's a lot of people that are what

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we used to be, which is just swingers. Yeah. And not in the community

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of swingers. Yeah. So it's just kind of case by case

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sort of thing. Yeah. But for us that was, that was

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really the issue was it's like, well, we're not really meeting people.

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We're not really enjoying these things. I can't justify spending

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30 to $50 a month for this. Like, it just doesn't make sense,

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you know? And, and my anxiety was real bad too.

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So whenever we would meet with a couple, it would be really,

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really just hard. You know, it would be very,

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very nerve wracking. It wasn't very fun because it was. There was no connections.

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No. Like it was a different type of connection. Yeah. Yeah. You know,

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and, and, and almost every single time it just didn't,

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didn't pan out for us. So I couldn't justify spending

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that money. And that's just kind of the, the tip of the iceberg

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that when, when you're in the community, you start realizing all the different things.

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Oh. That. All the different costs. So now

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you have your babysitter. Yeah. You have your platform

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on where you found it. Right. So those are two costs.

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Yeah. Now self grooming. So for

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me, like people spend easy,

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100 to 400amonth easy on just grooming.

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That just blows my mind for women.

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Well, let me just say me, I don't get my hair done.

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Okay. So I am what you would call a low maintenance.

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You are. Actually, I've had to over the years, really convince you

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to start. Yeah. Kind of take care of yourself in that way. Before this,

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I had a little moment in my life where I

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did my hair, I did my nails,

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I did all that good stuff. And it was only for a little bit.

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But I'm not that girl. Right. My hair, I used to get done all,

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all the time, but my best friend used to do hair. So we would,

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you know, she would do it for free. Like a barter system. Yeah. Or really,

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really cheap. So I didn't spend that much.

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Now, now I don't do my hair. I rarely do my nails.

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I'll do my toes and I always

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do a Brazilian wax.

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So for me, my costs

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of like Maintenance is. Oh, I'm doing my lashes

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now. Oh, yeah. Add that to the list. I know. You know you want to

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look pretty, right? You want to look pretty. You want to look good.

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And so 100 to 400amonth, that's. That gets

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up there. Oh, totally. And then you know what you can add to that?

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A gym membership. Because let's face facts.

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We are involved in this community, and we're like, you know

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what? We really need to work on ourselves.

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So first of all, you have to work on yourself. Feel. Want it. You'll want

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it. Feel sexy and clarity in your brain, right? Oh, totally.

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And stamina. Yes, stamina. So, like. Absolutely.

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You have to have stamina because it. It involves sex.

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Yes. You know, so. Absolutely. Man, I didn't even think about that. You're paying

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for your gym. Yeah. You're paying for your

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maintenance. So men, haircuts, grooming. Right. Products.

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Right, right. So you just. The products just to make yourself look

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presentable for sure. Because. And then that doesn't.

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That doesn't count towards the different outfit.

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Yeah. So then you. Yeah. You have your sexy

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lingerie. Yeah. I mean, luckily for

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women in. In this lifestyle, we are

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very. We tell each other where we find deals.

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Like, I'm on a website for women, and we will tell each

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other, like, hey, you have.

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It's like $3 for this bikini on. On this website

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and go to Amazon and let's do this. And I mean, it really

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is. And I don't. I don't have a lot of lingerie. Yeah. Like,

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my lingerie is. The pieces that I wear

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a lot of are more expensive.

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Okay. You know, like, I have some Victoria Secret

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pieces. I have a little. I have a lot of, like,

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little things from, like, Adore Me. So those are kind of.

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Those are expensive. Oh, my God. Adore me. That's a subscription.

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Yeah, absolutely. That is a freaking subscription. You know?

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But, yeah, like, we help each other out. For instance, yesterday we

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went to. We went to the club, and every. It was a glow party.

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I have nothing that glows. And everybody was.

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I was telling. I was telling people, it's like, I have nothing that glows.

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And they're. We were all talking, and they're like, oh, my gosh. Here, let me

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send you this link. Let me see that. And that. That was. The funny thing

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was we were standing in line, and I was talking to the.

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To one of the guys that was there. Oh, because everyone loves the way you

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dress. Yeah. Because I have. I dress a little swaggish. I got some Swag.

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You do, you look good. And. But I was, you know, we were talking about

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our different clothes and stuff and they were like, oh yeah,

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mine's Walmart. And I said, hey, my, my shirt's from Target.

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Yeah. My pants are from Walmart. Yeah. And my shoes are from Ross.

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Yes. And he was like, oh man, we need to go shopping. And I was

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like, dude, that's, that's hilarious. But that's funny, right? So then you have your lingerie.

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Men, you have your clothes. I mean, yeah. You guys want

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to look good, right? I mean, if, if, if you really want to make

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an impression. Yeah. And dude, I swear, there is always

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a theme. There is everything.

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So yesterday was the first time that we didn't really do

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theme wise because it was a spur of the moment type of thing. True.

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And I was like, I don't have anything close. Oh, well, I'm just gonna wear

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whatever. Right, right. So they have

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themes. You wanna be part of the, of the

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theme. You don't wanna be the, you don't. Wanna be the one that stands out.

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You wanna be the one that stands out. So there's always a theme.

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There's always a piece of lingerie you have to buy.

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There's grooming. Yeah. You know,

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there's also thing, there's gym memberships. Oh my gosh.

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And there's also things that people like to, like some women do Botox.

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Right. Some women have facials

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every month. Some women have surgeries. Some men do.

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Some women have surgeries. But like, and so like you, you do that to make

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yourself feel better. And then, I mean, that's part of

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the whole package. Right. I like, I've heard a lot of women say who have

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implants. Yeah. They're like, I, I got this for this reason

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I'm here to show them off. And it makes you feel confident. Yeah.

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You know, like you want, it makes you feel sexy. You want to feel sexy.

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Right. You know, so all of that goes into,

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God, it could be monthly, could be yearly, but it is, it's a cost.

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It catches up. Perfume, lotions, you know. Oh my

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God, condoms. Now. Can it not be done on a budget? Sure.

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Oh, it can be done on a budget. I will have to make a show

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on how it is done on a budget. And we will. Yeah. We have

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four kids. We've had to do it on a budget. Like we

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don't have a choice. Yeah. I mean, we're not bougie people. We, we don't have

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that kind of money. And so we really have to make it work.

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And that's what a lot of people don't realize.

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You know, it's like, hey, it doesn't take much for you to

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look presentable. At least put a little bit of effort into yourself.

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Make yourself look a little bit nice. You're meeting people you want to impress.

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There's thrift stores, but it doesn't cost. It doesn't have to cost a whole lot.

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It doesn't. You can put together something nice. Yeah. You can smell nice and

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that's it. You know, you can do your hair. You know, it doesn't take

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much. No. But yeah, it does cost. It does. It does

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add up. Yeah. So you got your babysitter, you got your club or

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your platform or your. You found your event. Yeah. You got your

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clothing. Okay. Now. And you got your self care and

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your grooming. Now you got to figure out, are you

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going to stop and eat? Oh, dude, we always. Are you going to take an

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Uber? Yeah, yeah. Like just

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well before. Yeah. And then, you know, most of the time,

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say you're meeting another couple. It's usually

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at a restaurant. Let's have dinner or let's

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meet for drinks. It's never, let's meet in the park under

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a shady tree. You know, it's never anything free. It's always

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something that's going to cost. So if we're going to set up something with a.

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With a couple, we have to make sure that we have money to go do

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that. Yeah. You know what I mean? Because it's again,

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expensive. Right. So you gotta. Okay, so then you figure out

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where you're gonna go. How much is that gonna cost? Yeah. Do you

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wanna spend a lot of money? Do you wanna do it on a budget?

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How do you tell somebody? Right? So we are very open and

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we're like, look, you know, we don't have a lot

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of money. Where can we go on a budget? Yeah, the community

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is really cool because it's like, girl,

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we got you. Or well, it's. And it's funny because when we first got together

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and I would do this in our vanilla world and I

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would do this in lifestyle too, where. Oh my gosh. Where we would have

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a date set up and we would have to break it off and it's like,

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sorry, guys, but we just. We're broke this week. Like, we don't have the money.

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And I remember you would get. You would get mortified because you'd be like,

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oh, my God, don't tell them that. So I was raised very differently.

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Yeah. I always had Money

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to do that. So to tell somebody I didn't have money to do that was

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very. I don't know, like, it made me feel super

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well. So I was raised the same as you. I mean,

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my. My parents would have been mortified if they heard me say that to

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somebody else. But my thing is that I am just very honest.

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Yes. And I feel like without that transparency, they're going

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to think, okay, what the hell? They just canceled on us. Yeah. You know,

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that sort of thing. Yeah. And it. And you told me that. Yeah. And I

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found that whenever I would be honest about that, people always understood. Yeah.

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Because everybody struggles financially, especially now.

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Yeah. Like right now, times are very hard. Yeah.

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You know, it's. The world is just expensive.

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It is expensive to live, you know.

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And prices are high. So just feeding your face.

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Right. Is expensive. Right. So then you

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eat. Some people have alcohol.

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Yeah. Some people have to drink in order to loosen up. Some people

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use, you know, cbd. Yeah. Some people

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use thc. Some just to stay. Weed.

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Just to stay in. To make them comfortable.

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Right, right. Okay. So that. That's an add a. That's an ad.

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That's an addition to all your fun. Right. For sure.

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Oh, my gosh. And then you have to, like, get all your setups when you

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go to the club to do that. Yeah, yeah. You gotta bring an ice chest

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because, I mean. Yeah. Jeez. And then

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some, like, there's the cost of. If you're in the community,

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some meet and greets. You know, everybody's drinking.

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There's the cost of the alcohol there. Some meet and greets, there's a cover

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to get into certain places. Some places.

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I mean, you just. There's costs associated with all of those places.

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There's been meet and greets at the. The sex club. There's been

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meet and greets at strip clubs. And if you don't have the money,

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you can't go. You know what I mean? So you're

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there, you've arrived, you buy your drinks,

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whatever. What if it's out of town? Yeah.

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What if there's travel? For sure, you're paying

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for a longer babysitter. Yeah. Or maybe you don't even have kids. You're just paying

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for travel. Like for us. Our. Our gas.

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Our gas. Because we. We're in between. We're an hour away.

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We're an hour from north and an hour south. Yeah.

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From where all this stuff is happening. Yeah. And so every

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time, we pretty much have to drive, like an hour or more. Yeah. And that's

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gas money. And it's wear and tear on your vehicle. Wear and tear on the

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vehicle. Because you want to stay social. Yeah. You know, and you want to

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make it whenever you can, for sure. So. Yeah. Wow.

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It's a lot. It's a lot. And then on top of all that,

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you know, wherever we. We have to stop and eat.

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Like you said. Feed your face. You gotta feed your face. You gotta feed your

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face. Yeah. I mean, you can't especially,

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like, say if we're at the club, we just expelled a lot of energy.

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We need some sustenance. You know what I mean?

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So, you know, we always have to stop and do that whole thing. I remember

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you talking. It was funny because we were coming back from the club and

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this was a while back, and I guess it was a time when finances

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were a little. A little tight. And you said,

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you know, it's really just. It's costing us a lot of money every time

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we come over here and we decide to get a room.

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And so if we're going to come over here, we're just not going to get

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a room. We're just going to have to come back home. Yeah. Because we don't

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drink. Right. So. So we can. We. We're driving. It doesn't matter. We're sober.

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Right. And then, you know, it's hot to have a hotel,

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but most of the time when we do that, we're at the sex

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club till like three in the morning and we've been having sex literally all

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night. So by the time we leave there, we don't want to bring anyone home.

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Yeah. Or bring anyone to the hotel. Yeah. Because we just

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want to go to bed. We. We want to eat and we gonna go to

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bed. And so the last thing we wanna do is bring anybody to the hotel.

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Yeah. And so that, that just changes everything.

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Yeah. Yeah. It's. It is a lot.

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It is a lot. Yeah. You know, and I know, like,

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it's okay. So, like, for us, we, we make

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arrangements ahead of time, we put it in our calendar,

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we try to budget around us. I've even told people,

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okay, so we're not going to go out until after the 15th. Yeah. Like,

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yeah. We're extremely transparent about. Yeah. If we cancel,

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we tell people why we canceled. We try to do it ahead of. Time,

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you know, but everybody seems to understand when it comes to finances.

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Like. Yeah. What I do like about this community, though, that I have

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noticed is when there's situations where,

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you know, everybody's doing stuff and there's one or two people that

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just don't have the money to the community kind of rallies

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behind them, and it's like, oh, I got you. Don't even worry about it.

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It just happened to us. Did it? Yeah, we had to go to a

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club, and we were like, well, we have a membership at this club, and it's

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cheaper for us to go to this club. And friends

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paid for us to go in. Oh, yeah, that's right. You know, our friends paid

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for us to go in, which we were very appreciative of. That was really

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cool. We just couldn't. We couldn't afford it. Right. We had.

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We had summer with the kids and, you know, and. And we really wanted to

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partake in that. And so it was really birthing graduations. And so we were

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like, man, money was tight. They paid for

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us to go in. And that was really cool, man. Yeah. Yeah, that was nice.

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So, yes, the community, we've.

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We've had, like, meet and greets and stuff

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like that, and friends have really rallied up to kind of

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help. Yeah. So things like that is. It is. It's really cool when you have

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a good community. But, yeah, everything costs, man.

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And then if you want to, like, travel outside of

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the area, like, like, not even in your own state,

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people go to, like, hido. Oh, yeah, yeah. They do

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cruises. The. Cruises. The resorts. The resort.

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There's people that maybe travel to other states

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because they know people out there and they go to the clubs out there

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and whatnot. And that, you know, that really is a big expense

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in and of itself are memberships to clubs.

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If you go enough or often enough,

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then it makes sense to get a membership, like a. Like a yearly membership

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or whatever. That kind of justifies

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it if you can lower the amount that you pay at the door.

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But they're pricey, man. These. I've never seen

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a real cheap adult club, and if I

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did, chances are it's probably pretty skeezy.

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I mean, sometimes they do sales, like, toward the end of the

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year. They give memberships. Yeah, they give, like, discounts, but I

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think we paid a full price for one of our memberships, and that's an

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easy $300. Yeah, three to $400. And then you still have

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to pay to get in. Yeah. And then it's still the door fee. Yeah.

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A lot of these clubs right now are doing a lot of, like, little discounts

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if you come in before a certain time. Yeah, they do different promotions and stuff

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like that, which is. Is very helpful, like, if you really want to get out.

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And, you know, they're going to have something like that and you know, you have

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a chance. Take up on it. Take up. Of course, you also got to consider

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the fact that everybody else is seeing that promotion and

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going, okay, we're going. Yeah. And so then you're, you're, you're going on

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busier times. You are. And get there early.

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Yeah, that's always the answer. So you have your babysitter,

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you have your clothing, you have all this, you have your travel time, you have

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your Uber. If you don't Uber, you have your car.

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Yep. You go on cruises, you go on this and that.

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Yeah. It is a. Go to clubs. It's a

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big cost. House parties. House parties. I was gonna say, you know,

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now it's. I, I don't know how true this is. I heard

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this. I have not read this. I haven't done my research on it,

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honestly. But I heard that it is

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against the law to charge for

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a sexual party.

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And I, I think, like, if you're gonna have sex, right, like, if we're,

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if we're having a, A down to fuck house party,

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we cannot charge $20 per

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couple or $30 per couple or whatever. We cannot charge that.

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I, I heard that it's against the law. And like I said,

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I don't know if there's any backing to this or not. I heard it's against

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the law and that the reasoning is kind

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of similar to the same as to why in

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the, in the sex clubs, at least here in Texas,

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they have the stripper poles and whatnot. And you can,

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you can dance. Yeah, you can dance on the stripper poles, but nobody can throw

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money. Money cannot be exchanged. Someone said something.

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Yeah, it was at one of the clubs when we first went and they gave

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us the tour and they said, yeah, you can dance up there and whatnot,

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but money cannot be exchanged. Is it because they don't have liquor

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license? Nope. I don't, I don't know what it is. I wonder what that is.

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But whatever it is, I, I think it's like a similar thing.

439
00:28:25,300 --> 00:28:28,580
Maybe that's why they asked for donation. So that's what I was gonna get at.

440
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,220
So these house parties instead, they don't charge,

441
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,340
but they say, we, we're asking for you to donate. Yeah.

442
00:28:36,420 --> 00:28:39,740
And then they have like, these prices and of course, you don't want to be

443
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,300
the one that shows up and don't. Doesn't pay anything and then,

444
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,740
you know, ends up mooching and eating everybody's food and then going, all right,

445
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,740
see you guys later. But if you did, everybody would be okay with

446
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,700
it because it's just like, whatever. Yeah. You know. Yeah.

447
00:28:56,100 --> 00:28:59,860
For the most part, people in this community rally behind

448
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,780
each other. Yes. And if somebody says, okay, you know,

449
00:29:04,420 --> 00:29:07,140
this is. This is the donation. If everybody could.

450
00:29:07,570 --> 00:29:11,090
Everybody does. Yeah. You know, everybody does. And that's cool.

451
00:29:11,330 --> 00:29:14,690
That is. It is a really good community

452
00:29:15,190 --> 00:29:18,770
that we're in. Yeah. And. But. And. But, man, it costs, you know, like,

453
00:29:19,270 --> 00:29:22,650
my. My birthday's coming up. Your birthday's coming up.

454
00:29:23,150 --> 00:29:26,610
So. And that is El Costarun. It is. And I. I am.

455
00:29:27,090 --> 00:29:30,010
I'm the. I'm the person who down who does the finances.

456
00:29:30,510 --> 00:29:34,540
So she's my accountant. Yes. My boo bear here has always. Since we

457
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,980
were dating, has always deposited his check into

458
00:29:39,460 --> 00:29:42,900
our joint account. Yeah. I take care of all

459
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,220
the bills and kind of allocate

460
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,020
money here and there. So, you know, I have to make magic,

461
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,220
and I always know I'm gonna figure it out. She's. She's pretty incredible.

462
00:29:55,380 --> 00:29:58,980
I. I will say that, you know, there. There were times where

463
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,090
I had to do it, and I guess it would put me in a

464
00:30:03,590 --> 00:30:07,170
bad mood, and nobody likes for me to be in a bad mood. So that's

465
00:30:07,670 --> 00:30:10,090
when my wife is like, you know what? Don't worry about it. I'll, like.

466
00:30:10,590 --> 00:30:12,930
I think it was when I was really going through, like, menopause, like, the very

467
00:30:13,430 --> 00:30:16,369
beginning of it. Yeah. When I didn't have, like, my Adderall or anything. When I

468
00:30:16,869 --> 00:30:20,730
never have, because it would frustrate me. I would get very

469
00:30:21,230 --> 00:30:24,370
frustrated in the finances, like, we can't do anything. And you'd get mad because we

470
00:30:24,870 --> 00:30:28,320
couldn't do anything. Right. You didn't understand. Because I didn't know what was going on.

471
00:30:28,820 --> 00:30:32,080
You know what was going on. I didn't talk to you, so. So I took

472
00:30:32,580 --> 00:30:35,880
it back. And now I. I'm the one who does it. Right. You.

473
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,040
You just would rather not. I would really rather. No, I can,

474
00:30:40,540 --> 00:30:43,640
but I'd really rather so. He. He.

475
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,280
He's very cute. You are very cute. Oh. Like, we could be

476
00:30:47,780 --> 00:30:50,600
super broke and little spoiled brat here will still get his Dutch,

477
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,070
so. It's so good. It's best coffee. You know, if.

478
00:30:55,570 --> 00:30:58,790
If I'm having a hard day, am I having a hard time, Then I do

479
00:30:59,290 --> 00:31:02,470
tell him, stop and look at the bank account. Yeah.

480
00:31:03,110 --> 00:31:06,990
Yeah. But it's because I'm just having a bad day or

481
00:31:07,490 --> 00:31:09,909
I'm having a bad moment because I don't like you to look at the bank

482
00:31:10,409 --> 00:31:13,790
account. Oh, I don't like to look at the bank account so much.

483
00:31:14,290 --> 00:31:17,430
Yeah. And so things like that. Right. So it's.

484
00:31:18,390 --> 00:31:21,620
It's a. It's a funny little life here that.

485
00:31:21,860 --> 00:31:24,900
Well. And, you know, so that.

486
00:31:25,780 --> 00:31:29,220
That brings me to a cost that. That I used to accumulate,

487
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,740
not necessarily as a swinger, but just as a pervert, was that

488
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,420
I used to pay for only fans. Yeah. And so I had to have,

489
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,500
like, a monthly allowance of only fans. I had to cut back on that.

490
00:31:40,740 --> 00:31:44,060
Sometimes, you know, it's like, oh, no. There was a time the only

491
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,680
fans this month. Yeah. There was a time where I

492
00:31:48,180 --> 00:31:52,160
was the only one working because he was in school and

493
00:31:52,660 --> 00:31:55,400
I wasn't even working. Like, we would do our business, and then I would have,

494
00:31:55,900 --> 00:31:59,640
like, bar jobs at the end. At the, like the. Toward the end,

495
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,120
summer to the end of the year. Right.

496
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,880
And so I'd be like, what the fuck?

497
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,920
Like, why is there $20 to some place in California like,

498
00:32:10,420 --> 00:32:13,400
what the fuck is this? And it would say only fans. And.

499
00:32:13,730 --> 00:32:17,170
No, it doesn't. No, no. Oh, good. And I'm like, what the

500
00:32:17,670 --> 00:32:21,090
fuck? What did you buy? In the very beginning,

501
00:32:21,810 --> 00:32:25,010
he would say, oh, I got you a gift. It just hasn't come in.

502
00:32:25,510 --> 00:32:28,130
Oh, I remember that. I didn't know. I was cornered, and I was like.

503
00:32:28,210 --> 00:32:30,810
I knew he was lying, but I didn't want to call him out. I was

504
00:32:31,310 --> 00:32:34,330
a bad liar. And then finally he was like, well, you know, I look at

505
00:32:34,830 --> 00:32:38,410
only fans, and I'm like, well, that's fine, but you're cutting into some money we

506
00:32:38,910 --> 00:32:42,650
don't have because we'd go negative. And we

507
00:32:43,150 --> 00:32:46,890
finally gave him. He started working. I started working.

508
00:32:46,970 --> 00:32:50,450
I was like, I was making good money. I was making good money.

509
00:32:50,950 --> 00:32:53,050
And she's like, okay, I'll give you an allowance. Yeah,

510
00:32:54,010 --> 00:32:58,010
20$. Like 20. Sometimes I would give him 50. Be like, whatever you want.

511
00:32:58,090 --> 00:33:01,450
Well, so I only needed 20 because I would want.

512
00:33:01,690 --> 00:33:05,130
You know, I support sex workers, and I think

513
00:33:05,540 --> 00:33:08,740
only fans workers, you know, they need the support. Well,

514
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,300
in the beginning it was even better because you could see videos. Now they just

515
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,460
do. Now everything's pay per view. So it's like, you have. You have

516
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,460
to pay. I would. I would find these only fan girls that would charge

517
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,180
three to five bucks a month. And I would sign up for a month,

518
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,820
and I would enjoy their only fans for a month. But now you pay that

519
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,780
just to get in there to be told, you know, to be given

520
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:37,476
a little teaser and told, if you want this whole video, pay me 20,

521
00:33:37,604 --> 00:33:41,100
$30. And I'm like, that so now I'm

522
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,180
just straight free porn. But yeah, I, I,

523
00:33:44,580 --> 00:33:47,900
I really liked supporting the only fans,

524
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,900
girls, you know, the. You like supporting anybody who's doing

525
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,660
things like that. But we got to a point where it was like,

526
00:33:55,540 --> 00:33:59,150
I started one and I was like, okay, if they're not

527
00:33:59,650 --> 00:34:03,510
supporting us, we don't support them. Right. Like, that's just the way it's gonna

528
00:34:04,010 --> 00:34:06,590
be. Don't be taking, don't be taken from my mama. Don't be taking from my

529
00:34:07,090 --> 00:34:10,510
kids and giving to their kids. I don't think so. You ain't their sugar daddy.

530
00:34:10,990 --> 00:34:15,230
Like, we got to that. I feel like that's strippers

531
00:34:15,730 --> 00:34:19,310
bartering dancing services. It is. You don't, if you're a

532
00:34:19,810 --> 00:34:23,320
stripper, you don't go. I mean, you do. They do go and stripper

533
00:34:23,820 --> 00:34:26,560
to stripper. They will go and give you a dollar or whatever. When you're there,

534
00:34:27,060 --> 00:34:29,800
you go. Yeah, but no, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like they have to support

535
00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:31,960
here much. Yeah. So it was that.

536
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,920
There's a lot of. Man, dude, hotels are

537
00:34:37,420 --> 00:34:40,080
expensive. I was just about to say, like. Just you need a place to,

538
00:34:40,580 --> 00:34:44,640
to, to, to have sex. Yeah. I mean, nobody wants

539
00:34:45,140 --> 00:34:48,730
to swamp in a car. Yeah. If you can't post, you know, I.

540
00:34:49,230 --> 00:34:52,610
Mean, they're, I'm talking about the first time. Like, maybe when you're comfortable

541
00:34:53,110 --> 00:34:55,490
with somebody, you can fool around in a car, but the first swap, you don't

542
00:34:55,990 --> 00:34:59,850
want to fucking. I've heard stories about that, by the way, of people like

543
00:35:00,350 --> 00:35:03,730
having. Oh, my goodness. Having their first swap in a car. Blows my mind.

544
00:35:04,050 --> 00:35:07,810
But yeah, I mean, you have to find a place to,

545
00:35:08,310 --> 00:35:11,450
to, to, to have sex. And not everybody can host. As a

546
00:35:11,950 --> 00:35:15,820
matter of fact, a large portion of people cannot host. Yeah.

547
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,140
Either because they have kids or family or roommates or whatever the situation

548
00:35:20,220 --> 00:35:23,660
is. There's a lot of people that just can't hope. Yeah.

549
00:35:23,820 --> 00:35:27,220
And so with that, it's okay, well, let's get a

550
00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:31,340
hotel. Yeah. Well, hotels are not cheap. Yeah.

551
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,060
No, even the gross ones are not cheap.

552
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,780
No. Oh, but we were talking about your birthday party. Oh, yeah.

553
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,190
How expensive that is. Yeah. Like throwing parties. Yeah.

554
00:35:42,670 --> 00:35:45,790
Like there's commute. There's places here that have,

555
00:35:46,290 --> 00:35:49,070
or there's people in our community that have Airbnbs. And so you can get them

556
00:35:49,570 --> 00:35:51,950
at a, at a discount if you reach out to the right people. Sure.

557
00:35:52,110 --> 00:35:55,270
Right. But even that, like you're having

558
00:35:55,770 --> 00:35:59,470
a celebration and you wanted to do that thing like you did the club for

559
00:35:59,970 --> 00:36:03,150
me. And I think we went out, but like that was,

560
00:36:03,870 --> 00:36:07,470
that was a pretty penny. Yeah. You know, and then

561
00:36:07,970 --> 00:36:11,780
we're doing your birthday. So that right there is going to be a pretty penny.

562
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,540
Oh, yeah. You know, and it's like you want to do

563
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,900
special things on special days and you know, if it's your anniversary, you want to

564
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,980
go. What? You know, you want to do this and that. So like

565
00:36:23,620 --> 00:36:25,700
between that and hotels. Yeah.

566
00:36:26,820 --> 00:36:30,220
Yeah. And then, you know, you could end up in

567
00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:34,220
a situation where you have a girlfriend that you have to

568
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:37,550
pay for even though she says you don't have to.

569
00:36:38,510 --> 00:36:41,910
You're kind of old school and you kind of go, well, I should pay for

570
00:36:42,410 --> 00:36:45,150
her. Yes. You know, I kind of like her, so I should pay for her.

571
00:36:45,650 --> 00:36:49,030
Yes. And that's what ends up happening. And that's what ends up happening. But you

572
00:36:49,530 --> 00:36:53,390
know, I don't mind telling her, hey, maybe, I don't know, buy me a sandwich.

573
00:36:53,790 --> 00:36:56,350
She brought a potato. I know. She did. She did.

574
00:36:57,630 --> 00:37:01,230
We had breakfast today and she brought a big potato. She brought a potato,

575
00:37:01,390 --> 00:37:04,510
big potato. And a five pound bag of onions.

576
00:37:05,010 --> 00:37:08,610
Yes. She's, you know, always offers, but yeah,

577
00:37:09,110 --> 00:37:12,010
I mean, if you have another partner, you.

578
00:37:13,210 --> 00:37:16,570
Luckily you don't have to pay bills, but. But I mean, if you do have

579
00:37:17,070 --> 00:37:20,570
another partner, like say a couple situation that takes on another partner,

580
00:37:21,370 --> 00:37:25,410
you know, there's, there's situations where you, you wanna kind

581
00:37:25,910 --> 00:37:28,770
of buy them stuff and you. Wanna, you know, you want to be romantic,

582
00:37:29,270 --> 00:37:31,770
you want to be cute, like you want to get gifts. Right. You know.

583
00:37:32,310 --> 00:37:35,430
Oh, we got a cool gift, by the way. Yeah.

584
00:37:35,750 --> 00:37:39,110
Squirrel. Sorry. You want to buy gifts? You want to be,

585
00:37:39,990 --> 00:37:43,710
you want to take them out? Yeah, it's. And if you're

586
00:37:44,210 --> 00:37:47,630
doing it together, that's great. But like if you're doing that and then

587
00:37:48,130 --> 00:37:51,030
I'm doing that. Right. You know, Lucky for us,

588
00:37:52,070 --> 00:37:55,270
she's very even Steven. She's like, I know. I got it. No,

589
00:37:55,770 --> 00:37:59,030
I got it. Yeah. No, I got it. Yeah. Bringing her potato. So bringing

590
00:37:59,530 --> 00:38:02,890
her potato salsa. Yeah. No, I mean it, it does,

591
00:38:02,970 --> 00:38:07,050
it. Gets, it can get cost. It's costly just all around,

592
00:38:07,130 --> 00:38:10,490
right? Yeah. Yeah. And. And you know, I've,

593
00:38:10,990 --> 00:38:14,370
I've seen people say, well, if you can't, if you can't

594
00:38:14,870 --> 00:38:18,690
handle the cost of it, then you shouldn't do it. And I thought that's

595
00:38:19,190 --> 00:38:22,450
so lame. Come on, man. Like, that's lame. That's. You're saying

596
00:38:22,950 --> 00:38:26,370
that people cannot be a part of this, this community because. Because they

597
00:38:26,870 --> 00:38:30,060
brokey broke. Because they can't afford it. Maybe at that time.

598
00:38:30,220 --> 00:38:33,180
Dude, no. Oh, my God. You're talking of friendship.

599
00:38:33,260 --> 00:38:36,820
It doesn't cost. It doesn't cost. It doesn't have to. I was

600
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,940
just thinking right now, we, We're a couple,

601
00:38:41,180 --> 00:38:44,499
right? We are a couple. And it's like, it's. And we got the membership or

602
00:38:44,999 --> 00:38:48,220
whatever at the, at the club. These single people. Yeah,

603
00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:52,340
single men. Because, yeah, the women, we got it right

604
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,340
when we go into clubs, but, oh, my goodness, the single men,

605
00:38:56,370 --> 00:39:00,130
you guys pay a pretty penny just to go in.

606
00:39:00,450 --> 00:39:04,010
And then you can't even go to the back unless you're

607
00:39:04,510 --> 00:39:07,890
invited. Right. And if you're not invited,

608
00:39:08,370 --> 00:39:10,770
did you just spend, like, $200?

609
00:39:11,330 --> 00:39:15,090
So, like, you single guys, y' all have yalls? I think it's

610
00:39:15,590 --> 00:39:18,690
like 200 a night. Yeah. Oh, I,

611
00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:23,020
I, I don't ice from club to club. Yeah, it is a, A large

612
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,780
amount. It's a, it's a couple of bills just for the, the one time just

613
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,780
to go in. Yeah. And, like. And there's no guarantee that you're gonna get

614
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,140
anything or even talk to anybody. No. Yeah,

615
00:39:34,220 --> 00:39:37,299
it's. I have sympathy for

616
00:39:37,799 --> 00:39:41,100
that. Sometimes I'm like, oh, my gosh. Oh, maybe I should have sex with him

617
00:39:42,140 --> 00:39:45,580
because, you know, he dropped wallet. It's like,

618
00:39:46,060 --> 00:39:49,510
my gosh, if you're just gonna stand there and drink beer,

619
00:39:49,910 --> 00:39:53,630
you could put money in my pocket. We can go out to the parking

620
00:39:54,130 --> 00:39:56,710
lot. You can see me in my lingerie. Yeah.

621
00:39:57,350 --> 00:40:00,310
Yeah. You can scope me up from afar. From afar.

622
00:40:00,710 --> 00:40:03,750
It gave me the $200. That's right. Like,

623
00:40:04,470 --> 00:40:08,470
we were just talking about that last night. So. Yeah, it's, It's a cost.

624
00:40:08,790 --> 00:40:12,470
It is a cost. But is it. You can do it on a budget?

625
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:17,960
Is it possible to do it on a budget? Is it ways.

626
00:40:18,460 --> 00:40:21,760
How can you do it on a budget? Okay, so look for deals.

627
00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:25,880
Look for deals. Wait for special promos at clubs.

628
00:40:26,380 --> 00:40:30,280
Pick and choose. Yes. You know, find yourself a community. If you don't

629
00:40:30,780 --> 00:40:34,080
have it in your area, I'm sure you do. You know, there's,

630
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,200
there's platforms that give you a free trial. Yeah.

631
00:40:39,710 --> 00:40:43,310
Try them out. You know, ask your friends. But if

632
00:40:43,810 --> 00:40:47,630
you're new and you're trying to break into this, where do you start?

633
00:40:48,990 --> 00:40:52,190
As far you're brand new. Yeah. You're thinking about being a

634
00:40:52,690 --> 00:40:54,750
swinger. Yeah. Where do you start?

635
00:40:55,470 --> 00:40:57,390
Well, you really need to.

636
00:41:00,270 --> 00:41:04,030
You don't. It helps if you know people

637
00:41:04,350 --> 00:41:07,930
who are already in the community that can help expand. I know

638
00:41:08,090 --> 00:41:11,650
people get on the websites,

639
00:41:12,150 --> 00:41:16,010
like adultfriendfinder.com and stuff to link up with people and. And that's how

640
00:41:16,510 --> 00:41:20,410
they learn. I think that the actual. The initial

641
00:41:20,910 --> 00:41:23,610
costs. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

642
00:41:24,570 --> 00:41:28,130
You know, I know a lot of people that if. If they want to

643
00:41:28,630 --> 00:41:31,810
know more, they'll turn to podcasts like this about how

644
00:41:32,310 --> 00:41:36,060
to start out or how to break into the community. It really depends on what

645
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,700
you're looking for. That's what I was gonna say. Like, where. What are you into

646
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:44,340
a certain. Yeah, because cost, man. Oh, forget it.

647
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,060
Some. Some kinks cost high. Yeah.

648
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:53,180
Oh, man. They can get expensive. But like, anything. Like, anything things

649
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,260
can get expensive. Do you mean, like, the tools to also. If you're in a

650
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,340
kind of. Yeah, yeah. Now, like, wow. I didn't think about that. And I am

651
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,120
not well versed in these. In these different kinks, so don't quote me

652
00:42:05,620 --> 00:42:09,000
on this, but, like, you and I, we've. We've gone to a

653
00:42:09,500 --> 00:42:13,080
kink party before, and they had this one

654
00:42:13,580 --> 00:42:16,880
gal on that. That little cross. I forget what they're called.

655
00:42:17,380 --> 00:42:20,840
St. Andrew's Cross or something. I don't. I don't know what they're called. But they

656
00:42:21,340 --> 00:42:24,760
had her on there, and they were flogging

657
00:42:25,260 --> 00:42:28,480
her for a while. But this girl really liked pain to the point to

658
00:42:28,980 --> 00:42:32,620
where she was almost gonna pass out. And they were hitting her with all sorts

659
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,220
of shit. Like, they were hitting her with paddles and this and

660
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:40,220
that. But at one point, they were hitting her with kitchen

661
00:42:40,300 --> 00:42:43,580
spatulas. We were there. We're there.

662
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,740
I don't remember that. Oh, I do. Well, no, because I was making. I had

663
00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:51,740
you laughing. I had you laughing because I was like, look at

664
00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:55,540
that. They're. They're gonna. They're gonna go to the kitchen and make. Go flip the

665
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,170
omelet. Oh, my God. I don't remember that. And you were laughing,

666
00:43:00,530 --> 00:43:03,730
and we had piled into the living room after that, and you just could

667
00:43:04,230 --> 00:43:07,850
not stop laughing. That specific joke gave

668
00:43:08,350 --> 00:43:11,890
you the giggles because all you could think of was flipping

669
00:43:12,390 --> 00:43:15,650
an omelet and smacking her ass with the spatula.

670
00:43:15,970 --> 00:43:19,170
Yeah, but I mean, that right there, I guess,

671
00:43:19,670 --> 00:43:23,500
is a form of budget on. On a kink. You know,

672
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,100
if you like to get smacked or. I just thought about that. Toys.

673
00:43:27,660 --> 00:43:29,980
Toys are very expensive. Condoms are expensive.

674
00:43:30,860 --> 00:43:35,260
Lubes are expensive. If you're sensitive like me. I am super,

675
00:43:35,900 --> 00:43:39,140
super sensitive. True. I can

676
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,740
only have certain condoms. I can only have. There's that website where

677
00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:47,660
you can get. Yes. Free condoms. I'm gonna

678
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,000
have to tell y' all what that is because we got a whole package,

679
00:43:50,150 --> 00:43:54,230
package of condoms. We did. And, and I think you can only, if I remember

680
00:43:54,730 --> 00:43:56,550
correctly, order them like once a month.

681
00:43:58,150 --> 00:44:01,270
But they sent you a very large package

682
00:44:01,990 --> 00:44:05,590
of, of just assorted condoms,

683
00:44:05,830 --> 00:44:09,110
different types of condoms. And you

684
00:44:09,610 --> 00:44:13,110
know, we're not picky, we're not especially free.

685
00:44:13,610 --> 00:44:16,780
Are you kidding me? Because man, condoms are pricey. You know what I was thinking

686
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,460
also, huh? Testing, testing, testing.

687
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,660
Well, there's a lot of clinics that do free testing. Okay. But of

688
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,500
course, if you have a doctor, you know, and you go to that doctor,

689
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,220
like we, we have a, we have our doctor. What? I mean like people that

690
00:44:31,720 --> 00:44:34,780
don't knee insurance, you know, like you'd have to find a place so.

691
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,980
Well, like I. A big one around here is the kind clinic.

692
00:44:38,700 --> 00:44:41,500
A lot of people go to the kind clinic around here. Those, those are.

693
00:44:41,580 --> 00:44:45,730
And then. So if you want like free condom and go to texaswear

694
00:44:46,230 --> 00:44:49,690
condoms.com if you're in Texas. I don't know, like if

695
00:44:50,190 --> 00:44:53,250
you're in France country or a different state, I'm not sure where you would go,

696
00:44:53,490 --> 00:44:57,290
but I would just Google like free condoms. And there's a lot

697
00:44:57,790 --> 00:45:01,650
of different places that will send out free condoms because

698
00:45:02,130 --> 00:45:06,330
they want people to use protection. I believe we

699
00:45:06,830 --> 00:45:10,770
use. Because I'm sensitive. We use our own. But I think, think clubs usually have

700
00:45:11,270 --> 00:45:15,250
condoms. I know I have left condoms there that, that you didn't

701
00:45:15,750 --> 00:45:19,170
like or that I didn't like. I'm not,

702
00:45:19,670 --> 00:45:23,090
I'm not sure. But also, if you're going to play and you don't have a

703
00:45:23,590 --> 00:45:27,010
condom, ask your friendly neighbor. It's like asking for sugar when you're in the

704
00:45:27,510 --> 00:45:30,410
club. Like, hey, hey, you got a condom? You know,

705
00:45:30,910 --> 00:45:34,050
some people pretty, pretty sharing with that. Luckily. Yeah,

706
00:45:34,290 --> 00:45:38,280
I think we all kind of agree that we should be safe.

707
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,440
Yes. And you know, if somebody comes up to us and is like, hey,

708
00:45:41,940 --> 00:45:45,080
do you have an extra condom? Because we don't have one. Yeah, yeah, here you

709
00:45:45,580 --> 00:45:49,120
go. I mean it is man. So you have

710
00:45:49,620 --> 00:45:51,480
condoms, you have that. There's.

711
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,320
There's so many like different things and. Oh, I mean there's a

712
00:45:56,820 --> 00:45:59,840
lot of stuff that we don't have that we want to get and we know

713
00:46:00,340 --> 00:46:02,920
it's going to cost like one of those yoga sex chairs.

714
00:46:03,690 --> 00:46:07,330
Yeah, one of those. I wanna, I wanna freaking little couch

715
00:46:07,830 --> 00:46:10,810
guy. A little couch guy. You know, the little yoga couch eyes or what is

716
00:46:11,310 --> 00:46:14,770
it called? You know, the ones that we, the, the club used

717
00:46:15,270 --> 00:46:18,810
to have. And it's like a kind of like. Yeah, the yoga sex couch

718
00:46:19,310 --> 00:46:22,090
yes. Yeah, I know. They're like 300 bucks.

719
00:46:22,650 --> 00:46:25,690
Really? I know. I still want them.

720
00:46:25,930 --> 00:46:29,690
I have, I have, I have looked it up. I still want them. Yeah.

721
00:46:29,770 --> 00:46:33,220
And, but like, I mean, all this stuff, it really cost.

722
00:46:33,720 --> 00:46:36,980
Like you said, the sex toys. Sex toys. Oh my gosh.

723
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:41,540
So expensive. Yeah, yeah. And, and you know, you want to

724
00:46:42,500 --> 00:46:47,660
add to your collection. Situations like that. And we're

725
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,140
Kents. Yes. You know, not, not a lot of people know that, but we,

726
00:46:51,540 --> 00:46:55,540
we do know our business as far as tax

727
00:46:55,620 --> 00:46:57,940
preparation and bookkeeping.

728
00:46:58,700 --> 00:47:02,780
And let me ask you something, Ms. Accountant. You're an accountant

729
00:47:03,660 --> 00:47:07,060
and we're accountants. But I'm asking you right

730
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,500
now, as far as taxes are concerned,

731
00:47:11,020 --> 00:47:14,060
as an OnlyFans person. Yes.

732
00:47:15,180 --> 00:47:19,740
Can you deduct your costs

733
00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:23,940
on adult toys if you're using them as a

734
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,640
form of, of entertainment for your business?

735
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,400
Rule of thumb, and if I am incorrect, it's because something has

736
00:47:32,900 --> 00:47:36,840
changed. But you can use your

737
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:41,160
lingerie write off. You can use your toy

738
00:47:41,660 --> 00:47:45,640
write off only if you use them for

739
00:47:45,720 --> 00:47:49,080
the business, period only.

740
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:53,160
So that means your little purple lingerie there, you are not going to

741
00:47:53,660 --> 00:47:57,530
use that to go out. That is business attire only.

742
00:47:58,730 --> 00:48:01,930
You know, you're gonna, you're gonna use

743
00:48:02,430 --> 00:48:05,650
that only for your business, your makeup.

744
00:48:06,150 --> 00:48:09,130
So just understand, anything you use for your business is for your right.

745
00:48:09,290 --> 00:48:13,210
You can't use it at the club, you can't use it anywhere

746
00:48:13,710 --> 00:48:16,890
else. It's not for personal use. It is for only business use.

747
00:48:17,390 --> 00:48:21,530
So, so this is not a dual situation because

748
00:48:22,030 --> 00:48:26,690
then, then you cannot, you cannot. Yeah. And people

749
00:48:27,190 --> 00:48:30,730
have asked me, can you use medical

750
00:48:31,530 --> 00:48:34,850
expenses that you have done because of your

751
00:48:35,350 --> 00:48:38,730
business? Yeah. So like, and stuff like that. There's a very

752
00:48:38,810 --> 00:48:42,090
fine, there was a very fine line

753
00:48:42,570 --> 00:48:45,850
to that if that is your business.

754
00:48:46,250 --> 00:48:49,850
So let's say content creator.

755
00:48:50,070 --> 00:48:53,430
You're a content creator and you're a content creator

756
00:48:53,670 --> 00:48:56,990
for like all day type of

757
00:48:57,490 --> 00:49:01,150
thing. Okay. You don't anything else. You're just a content creator

758
00:49:01,650 --> 00:49:04,910
the whole time business. And you want to enhance your body, you want to,

759
00:49:05,410 --> 00:49:10,190
you know, get implants. I don't know. I don't think that's

760
00:49:10,690 --> 00:49:13,070
a write off. I mean, it's a medical write off, but not a business write

761
00:49:13,570 --> 00:49:16,730
off. But I mean, I think

762
00:49:17,230 --> 00:49:20,170
that if. You'Re 24 7, I think something like. That would,

763
00:49:21,690 --> 00:49:25,890
it would get questioned. I think so. Yeah. But it's

764
00:49:26,390 --> 00:49:28,610
one of those that it would, it would have to get ruled on and you

765
00:49:29,110 --> 00:49:31,970
could appeal it. You could, you could, you know, if. You'Re willing to go all

766
00:49:32,470 --> 00:49:35,970
that that route. Yeah. But if you don't use

767
00:49:36,470 --> 00:49:39,490
it outside of your business. If you use it outside of your business and.

768
00:49:39,990 --> 00:49:42,090
No, you can write it off. Yeah. You know. Yeah.

769
00:49:43,650 --> 00:49:46,370
I have an. Only fans. We have.

770
00:49:47,250 --> 00:49:50,810
We have a business. So the things that

771
00:49:51,310 --> 00:49:54,450
I write off on our business is only. Because we use it at our business,

772
00:49:54,530 --> 00:49:57,810
we don't use it anywhere else. Right, Right.

773
00:49:58,290 --> 00:50:01,930
You won't see me in my lingerie. I'm not gonna write off my

774
00:50:02,430 --> 00:50:05,610
lingerie because I. I'm. Boo. I'm not bougie. Like,

775
00:50:06,110 --> 00:50:10,090
I'm gonna wear it anywhere I can wear. Yeah, yeah. No, we don't.

776
00:50:10,590 --> 00:50:12,530
We don't. I don't think that we're.

777
00:50:14,050 --> 00:50:17,290
We're not on those. No. For only fans.

778
00:50:17,790 --> 00:50:21,090
So it's more like just kind of a fun thing that we do. Yeah.

779
00:50:21,590 --> 00:50:24,690
Yeah. So, like. But people are. There's a lot of people that we know that.

780
00:50:24,770 --> 00:50:28,370
That really make a living off of that. And I don't

781
00:50:28,870 --> 00:50:31,610
know how they do their taxes. I'm just saying. Yeah. We. Us.

782
00:50:32,110 --> 00:50:35,230
I. I just know that you can't, you know, use it

783
00:50:35,730 --> 00:50:39,150
here and use it there. Yeah, yeah. But. Yeah, that's it. You know, I just

784
00:50:39,650 --> 00:50:42,870
said. I think that was an interesting one. Yeah. Yeah.

785
00:50:43,370 --> 00:50:46,870
But as swingers go, there's nothing that you can do. You cannot deduct

786
00:50:47,370 --> 00:50:50,870
your lifestyle. I am so sorry. On your taxes. Sorry, guys. It's just

787
00:50:51,370 --> 00:50:55,470
not possible. Maybe one of these days, you never

788
00:50:55,970 --> 00:50:59,030
know. Maybe. Maybe somebody can push for it and.

789
00:50:59,990 --> 00:51:02,470
Do, like, you have a certain lifestyle.

790
00:51:02,710 --> 00:51:06,640
That's right. If you're part of the lifestyle, you deduct these

791
00:51:07,140 --> 00:51:10,400
things. I mean, that would be cool in any type of

792
00:51:10,900 --> 00:51:14,840
lifestyle if you're like a hunter and you can deduct your guns

793
00:51:15,340 --> 00:51:18,040
and hunting material. But no,

794
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,880
sorry, guys. Well, hey, lifestyle is

795
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,320
expensive. Or can be. Maybe it is. It is. But it's

796
00:51:25,820 --> 00:51:29,520
fun. Worth it. You can do things on a budget. Look for

797
00:51:30,020 --> 00:51:33,360
your. Certain platforms. I mean, obvious stuff. You don't have to do it every weekend.

798
00:51:33,860 --> 00:51:36,890
You can do it once every once in a while. Like honey Boo was saying

799
00:51:37,390 --> 00:51:41,210
here, we. We had to cut back on some things we do. We were

800
00:51:41,710 --> 00:51:44,770
going to drive home. Yeah. We weren't going to stay. And if we can stay,

801
00:51:45,270 --> 00:51:48,730
I tell them ahead of time, hey, we can stay, or, hey, we cannot,

802
00:51:49,850 --> 00:51:53,330
because there was a time last year that we didn't even go out because it

803
00:51:53,830 --> 00:51:56,850
was just Christmas was about to come. Yeah. And then you were like, you know

804
00:51:57,350 --> 00:52:00,330
what? And we got to stop going to Waterburger after the. After the Club.

805
00:52:00,830 --> 00:52:04,220
It's costing too much. I'm going to start making us sandwiches.

806
00:52:05,340 --> 00:52:08,500
That didn't work. We still did. Well, we never did it. No,

807
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,860
we never did it. Carpool if you know like for us we live

808
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,140
out. We live an hour though. Yeah. If we can,

809
00:52:16,220 --> 00:52:19,820
we'll carpool. Yeah, if you can. If you can make friends

810
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:24,980
with other swing in the area. Yeah. We've actually stayed

811
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,540
the night with friends because it was out of town. Yeah.

812
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,240
And we were going to party in their neck of the woods and they have

813
00:52:32,740 --> 00:52:35,360
let us stay at their house a few times. Yeah.

814
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,600
We'Re. I'm part of a woman's only and they

815
00:52:42,100 --> 00:52:44,880
do. Or clothing swaps. Really.

816
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,320
Yeah. I don't ever partake. I may partake in the next one

817
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,800
just because I could use. I have some stuff that I just want to give

818
00:52:52,300 --> 00:52:55,760
away to people I've never worn. Sure. But yeah, they do

819
00:52:56,260 --> 00:52:59,040
like recycle outfits and ray and stuff.

820
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,010
I didn't know that. Yeah. Because I mean it's.

821
00:53:02,890 --> 00:53:06,330
It's expensive. Sure. Over time. Yeah. Right. Absolutely.

822
00:53:07,450 --> 00:53:11,210
So you stick to one main side, you6m but

823
00:53:11,710 --> 00:53:15,690
also if you want like sometimes there's like Netflix and

824
00:53:16,190 --> 00:53:20,210
chill type of nights, you know. Well, so I. What was funny was when

825
00:53:20,710 --> 00:53:24,410
we would. We would make dates with couples and

826
00:53:24,490 --> 00:53:27,970
I always felt bad because this would be our first meeting these couples and so

827
00:53:28,470 --> 00:53:31,270
there would be times where we didn't have the money but we were scrounge up

828
00:53:31,770 --> 00:53:34,510
what we could to meet up to have dinner or whatever. And you and I

829
00:53:35,010 --> 00:53:38,430
would. An appetizer or whatever and they would get to the point to where we

830
00:53:38,930 --> 00:53:41,590
just. Hey, why don't you guys just come over to the house. We'll cook and

831
00:53:42,090 --> 00:53:45,630
we'll cook and we've. Done that because it was just. It's not vanilla, but it's

832
00:53:46,130 --> 00:53:48,830
just. It's really is vanilla. Yeah, it really is. It's just. We're all sitting down,

833
00:53:49,330 --> 00:53:52,190
we're. We're eating a meal and we're talking. Yeah. It.

834
00:53:52,510 --> 00:53:55,910
A lot of people are standoffish about going

835
00:53:56,410 --> 00:54:00,080
to somebody else's house for their first meat. Yes. Because that's

836
00:54:00,580 --> 00:54:04,360
just strange and that sort of thing. But hey man, for us we would rather

837
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,640
hold on to our money. We're gonna make ourselves dinner anyways.

838
00:54:09,140 --> 00:54:11,440
We can just make a little bit extra. You guys come over, we can sit

839
00:54:11,940 --> 00:54:15,800
down and have a meal and it's free for you guys and

840
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,560
we can all enjoy getting to know each other and then you guys can chat.

841
00:54:20,060 --> 00:54:23,640
Yeah. You know, you can have social events with your lifestyle friends.

842
00:54:23,720 --> 00:54:27,240
Game nights. Oh, dude, game nights are the best. Game nights

843
00:54:27,740 --> 00:54:31,260
are so much fun. Yeah. You know, or just sitting down and you

844
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:35,060
put on a movie off scene and then you start talking. Because you can't

845
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,740
really have a conversation at the club. Yeah. Like, that is

846
00:54:39,240 --> 00:54:42,460
a very good point. You can't meet and greets. It's tough. It's tough.

847
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,780
You know, for instance, we're having your party and I'm

848
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:51,020
doing it potluck. Because I was like, man, I'm already spending a good penny

849
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:55,020
on the whole social event part. Yeah. It's like our.

850
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,880
My friend was like, Our friend was like saying, well, just do it as a

851
00:54:58,380 --> 00:55:02,120
potluck. And I was like, that's a really good idea. Yeah. If you bring food

852
00:55:02,620 --> 00:55:05,640
or if you don't bring food, if you're, you know, bring your own drinks and

853
00:55:06,140 --> 00:55:10,120
stuff like that. So that's. Those are things that you can do and attend.

854
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,800
Maybe, maybe a. A dish or

855
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,600
some sort of food item can be their donation.

856
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,960
How is it. We've gone to many parties where that's how.

857
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,640
Yeah, that's what they want. Like bring something that you can share. Yeah.

858
00:55:26,140 --> 00:55:29,400
You know, or the people that'll bring.

859
00:55:29,900 --> 00:55:32,720
Cookies or donuts or a charcuterie board. Charcuterie board.

860
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,840
Yeah. You know, so the community is there.

861
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,800
You just gotta find it. So you can do this on a budget. Yeah,

862
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,960
it is possible. You know, a good example is

863
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,640
we're. We're doing a. We're partaking in a very

864
00:55:47,140 --> 00:55:51,490
big event in a couple weeks where several

865
00:55:51,990 --> 00:55:55,250
different. Gosh. I mean, it's, it's going to be hundreds of

866
00:55:55,750 --> 00:55:59,010
people taking over a large portion of the

867
00:55:59,510 --> 00:56:03,210
beach and incredible, incredible. Port Aransas beach

868
00:56:03,710 --> 00:56:07,650
takeover and I. Now we're a

869
00:56:08,150 --> 00:56:11,490
few weeks away and there's well over 550 plus people that

870
00:56:11,990 --> 00:56:15,910
have reserved. They're going. And that is one

871
00:56:16,410 --> 00:56:19,750
specific group creating this. Right. But. But they shared with other ones.

872
00:56:20,250 --> 00:56:23,750
Yeah. And it's, it's. It's really grow over the past, what, five. I think

873
00:56:24,250 --> 00:56:28,350
they said five or six years. Yeah. And it literally takes.

874
00:56:28,750 --> 00:56:32,430
So this right there. That is the biggest cost that we have ever

875
00:56:32,930 --> 00:56:36,110
spent on an event. It's.

876
00:56:36,610 --> 00:56:39,230
And it isn't. So I mean, it really depends. And that's what I was getting.

877
00:56:40,030 --> 00:56:42,190
If we lived in Corpus. Yeah.

878
00:56:42,910 --> 00:56:45,670
Which is where. Where we were. We used to live.

879
00:56:46,170 --> 00:56:49,990
Yeah. Where it's at is just a small drive away. And in that

880
00:56:50,490 --> 00:56:54,550
case it would have only cost us $15 for entry

881
00:56:55,050 --> 00:56:59,150
fee, essentially donation to take part in it. Right. For a 15 donation.

882
00:56:59,650 --> 00:57:03,070
Yeah. To take part in it. And so that's.

883
00:57:03,570 --> 00:57:07,270
That's pretty cheap. But of course for us we're not. We're not out there anymore.

884
00:57:07,770 --> 00:57:10,560
So now it's going to cost us some stay.

885
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,640
So people. And, and so look, this is. Let's just

886
00:57:15,140 --> 00:57:19,280
tell you how good this community we. You get a condo

887
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,400
or you get a room and you share it. Yeah.

888
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:27,000
So like we are sharing a house with three

889
00:57:27,500 --> 00:57:30,880
other couples. Yeah. We all put in a certain amount of money

890
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,240
and you have it for many days. Yep. Oh,

891
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:39,440
there's that cost. Plus they all

892
00:57:39,940 --> 00:57:43,560
of us have agreed to make a meal, you know, for.

893
00:57:44,060 --> 00:57:48,400
For a day or whatever. Some place. Some people even are

894
00:57:48,900 --> 00:57:53,840
doing. Yeah. Like make meals person. Like I've heard that. I've heard people

895
00:57:54,340 --> 00:57:56,600
are just going to be doing it on the beach and just having like meals

896
00:57:57,100 --> 00:58:00,320
for people. Right. Like community. Community style meals.

897
00:58:00,980 --> 00:58:04,980
But they're. They're people bringing their RVs.

898
00:58:05,940 --> 00:58:09,100
They're sharing their RVs with other in the community. Man, I love

899
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:13,060
this community. They're really. It is great. And it's an awesome group. You said 500.

900
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:17,540
We were just talking about this. That's just the people like on Facebook

901
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,300
and stuff that I preserve. But some have joint counts.

902
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,860
Yeah. Like. And there's still a lot of people that. That are going to go

903
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,660
last. Yeah. Yeah. This is a really, really large event.

904
00:58:29,330 --> 00:58:32,410
At usually that week because we miss. This is going to be our first time

905
00:58:32,910 --> 00:58:35,970
because we were so FOMO last year. We were like could have gone what is

906
00:58:36,470 --> 00:58:40,050
this? We. Because we're from that area. We have been out there

907
00:58:40,530 --> 00:58:44,170
and seen. It's. It's for miles and

908
00:58:44,670 --> 00:58:48,890
it really is. It's miles of just amazing humans having

909
00:58:49,390 --> 00:58:52,850
a really good time. And we have little parties

910
00:58:53,350 --> 00:58:57,250
out there. But I was just thinking Jorde is making

911
00:58:58,690 --> 00:59:01,490
so much money during this time.

912
00:59:01,970 --> 00:59:06,010
During that time. It's already a summer place. Yeah. I mean it's. It's like

913
00:59:06,510 --> 00:59:10,090
another spring break almost. It really is. And I

914
00:59:10,590 --> 00:59:14,130
think they like already prepare for us. You know, I don't

915
00:59:14,630 --> 00:59:17,810
know. It makes sense. I think that it's. It's been a while and it's really

916
00:59:18,310 --> 00:59:21,850
exploded. I think this year is really going to be big. Yeah. And I'm

917
00:59:22,350 --> 00:59:26,530
super excited because it's going to be. It's fun and we.

918
00:59:26,610 --> 00:59:29,610
We made sure we had the money ahead of time and we pay for it

919
00:59:30,110 --> 00:59:33,330
and we, you know. Yeah. And usually during that weekend people

920
00:59:33,830 --> 00:59:36,850
will actually post. Hey, we still have an extra room if you're going to come

921
00:59:37,170 --> 00:59:41,010
this is how much it is. And so, and if you can't

922
00:59:41,510 --> 00:59:45,850
afford it, talk to your friend. If you want to go find

923
00:59:46,350 --> 00:59:49,580
somebody who's there, be great community.

924
00:59:49,820 --> 00:59:53,180
Oh, man, it's great, great community. And I

925
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,860
really hope people that you're, if you're not from this area where we're at and

926
00:59:56,940 --> 01:00:00,220
you find yourself a community like that.

927
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:04,100
Yeah, right. I mean, it was kind of cool that we

928
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,820
found it. Oh, I loved it. Like, it's, it's really nice.

929
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,900
So. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, we're gonna, we're gonna start wrapping up,

930
01:00:12,140 --> 01:00:16,150
but on, we are talking about Takeover

931
01:00:16,650 --> 01:00:20,710
in a couple weeks. We are actually going to be doing some on

932
01:00:21,210 --> 01:00:23,910
the spot podcast recording out there.

933
01:00:24,550 --> 01:00:29,070
We're going to be talking to some people and so we're

934
01:00:29,570 --> 01:00:31,870
going to be changing up our format a little bit. We're going to be adding

935
01:00:32,370 --> 01:00:36,110
some people in. We're going to be just kind

936
01:00:36,610 --> 01:00:40,110
of throwing, throwing a little different voices

937
01:00:40,610 --> 01:00:44,480
out there, listening to the community, hearing from

938
01:00:44,980 --> 01:00:48,800
the people around the need, the want, and people who know way more about

939
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:52,120
things that we don't. Because there's a lot of stuff that

940
01:00:52,620 --> 01:00:55,760
we don't know and it's good to hear that

941
01:00:56,260 --> 01:00:59,440
from others that maybe don't have access to that, you know.

942
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:04,520
So we will be out at this huge Port

943
01:01:05,020 --> 01:01:07,520
Aransas beach takeover in the coming weeks.

944
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,640
We'll be doing some, some podcast shows out

945
01:01:12,140 --> 01:01:16,200
there. We may have a few different ones. And you know,

946
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:20,120
if you manage to travel to that area and you

947
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,520
know what we're talking about and you're going to be out at that

948
01:01:24,020 --> 01:01:27,160
takeover, come and find us. We're going to be near the,

949
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,920
the main tent there we'll be set up. So,

950
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:34,750
you know, come by, stop by, say hello. We would

951
01:01:35,250 --> 01:01:39,070
love to meet you. If you listen to the podcast,

952
01:01:39,570 --> 01:01:43,270
by all means, please, we are very approachable. Please come

953
01:01:43,770 --> 01:01:46,950
and say yes. Yeah, we, we absolutely love to talk to people

954
01:01:47,450 --> 01:01:50,750
who listen to the show. They're just, I mean, it's, it's, it's a fun banter.

955
01:01:51,250 --> 01:01:54,470
It is. And, and I always like to hear what others have

956
01:01:54,970 --> 01:01:58,710
to say. So, yeah, if you manage to find yourself out

957
01:01:59,210 --> 01:02:03,620
there during that time, we're going to be out there, look for us and

958
01:02:04,020 --> 01:02:07,700
be sure and say hello. Yeah, yeah. Outside of

959
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:12,420
that, we love to hear from our listeners, especially on

960
01:02:13,300 --> 01:02:17,060
messenger. And, you know, if you go to our Facebook,

961
01:02:17,140 --> 01:02:21,180
you can find our phone number there, which you can leave us a voicemail

962
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:25,140
or a text message. You're welcome to email us at.

963
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:29,220
Beyond Monogamy 4, you gmail.com that's Beyond Monogamy.

964
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:32,520
Number four letter umail.com and,

965
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,960
you know, tell us a story. Let us know what you,

966
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:39,240
what you think. Different things like that. If you want something read on the air,

967
01:02:39,740 --> 01:02:43,400
let us know. Yeah, but we do love to hear from all of you.

968
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:48,520
And with that, we're gonna. We're gonna say adieu. And we

969
01:02:49,020 --> 01:02:50,280
will see you next week.

970
01:02:59,180 --> 01:03:14,780
Sam.