Luxury Lifestyle Cruises Explained: Inside LLV Club’s Adults-Only Travel Experiences

0:07 Alright y'all, before we dive in, a quick heads up. This show is raw, real, and definitely not rated pg. We're talking about adult themes, sexual content, and the kind of stuff you probably don't want blasting through your speakers at work or around your kits. So grab some headphones, pour your drink of choice and get comfy. Oh, and just so we're clear, we are not licensed therapists, counselors, or sex. Couches. Sex coaches. Sex coaches, not sex couches or just a couple of people sharing our lives, experiences and sexy adventures. An ethical non-monogamy.

0:47 So with that, pull up a chair and enjoy the show. And. Hello, and welcome to another episode of Beyond Monogamy. I'm Adam. And I'm Pris. And today we're sitting down with Claudia and Pepe Aguire from LLV Club. That's luxury lifestyle vacations. And if you've ever seen those adults only takeovers, you know what I'm talking about, you've probably been like, okay, wait, what is that? Because I know that we've said that before. Yeah. And how do people not die of awkwardness on day one? If you're wondering that kind of stuff like we are. Then buckle up. Because LLV is basically known for turning luxury travel into a whole community experience. Like you're not just booking a trip, you're walking into a vibe.

1:29 Exactly. And we're gonna talk about what LLV actually is, what it's like for first timers, how the community piece works and how you can have an unforgettable trip without feeling like a. Fused raccoon in a fancy resort, you know? Yes. Quick favor before we jump in. If you love the show, please take 30 seconds and leave us a review on Apple Podcast or Spotify. It helps more than you realize, and it's. How more open-minded humans find us without having to accidentally stumble into the lifestyle side of the internet. Yes. So welcome guys. How are you guys doing? Yes, welcome to. Thank you. So we're just gonna, we're gonna dive in because we have.

2:10 Full disclosure, we have never done a cruise. Yeah. We know a lot of people who have done other cruises and we've gotten here and there words about this. Now we are very excited to try one. This is on our bucket list. Yes. And I have heard that if we do one, we're probably gonna get addicted to it. Yes. So, I, I, you know, so for anyone who's ever heard of LLV, what is it in plain English? What is it that you guys do at LLV? Yeah. Well, we have created a community, um, okay. We call it the family because you come for the first time for the sex and the party and everything, but then you remain for the friendships. In all our events, nobody's a stranger.

2:53 So we make sure that everybody that participate, is get to know other people, get to explore, get to see, and, uh, have a good time. I love that. One thing about Tru is that you get your level of comfort. What you want on the goose line. And then you explore the world because you, the good thing about cruising is you can change the ports every time, but you bring your friends on board, then you have, uh, an explore the world different places with certain level of quality and, uh, comfort. And then you go explore, have fun, enjoy, and then come back and have your adult fun.

3:34 I love that. I like that. That's so cool. So did, how did y'all start this? Did y'all just go on a cruise and say, okay, this is how I wanna do it? I, I, I mean, I would assume that y'all were in the lifestyle previous to jumping into the cruise business. I, that's a big assumption. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah, definitely. We've been doing this for 20 something years for livestock. Wow. But before we did corporate events and, uh, very different and that was very different, very boring. It's still nice because you travel and all these, and you get to know what's gonna come up on the markets and everything. But after September 11, everything changed. Oh, yeah. Assuming, no. Yes, absolutely.

4:14 We were there precisely and, uh, we were exploring the lifestyle personally. Okay. And since our business from one day to the next was. Ended, we start, uh, you know, looking for alternatives. Because September 11 or not, you know, you have to pay your mortgage pay. Yeah. They're still gonna collect. Yeah. So we need to, we start being creative and we put a group to help us, you know, pay the bills. And in that time started, going to clubs and everything, so, okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And our background is the hospitality industry. So we both worked, oh my gosh, before, uh, in hotels, uhhuh in sales. So we, that was a background.

4:54 So that, that's a perfect, so we have the no how and the contacts. Yeah. So combination y were made for this. Yeah. Y'all were made for this. That's so cool. That's the power couple, right? That's there. That's totally. Now I, you know, I, I, I'm gonna backtrack a little bit because I'm very curious as far as. Uh, uh, the lifestyle and you guys, you know, y'all started the lifestyle quite a long time ago. Were y'all in the lifestyle? Did y'all make that decision together or were y'all in the lifestyle previous to each other? Oh, well, I didn't know anything until I met him and he started, is that right? Oh, you gotta tell me. I I, I love, I love the first, the first timer story, so I gotta know what Well, she knew, but yeah, she had it in like, it was in there.

5:37 She likes to dress sexy, you know, and, um, always, you know, ministered and everything. And so, yeah. When we moved to Florida, we started looking the, there's a weekly magazine called The New Times and you know, it says what's happening in Miami and all this area and, uh, all the happenings and I saw all these advertisements of different clubs, you know, Miami Bel Trap Peace. In that time there was a couple more Platos repeat and, and, uh, a couple more, you know, so one of her birthdays I. Just bought her a nice, sexy dress and tell her, let's go to this club and it's about this, you know?

6:20 And then if we don't like it, we just get out. And if we like it, we stay, you know? Yeah. That's amazing. So that, that's the way we started. We went to trapeze, which still exists here. You know, you know, we've, we've heard about it. Actually, we have plans to go towards the end of this year to trap. That's right. Very true. We'll let you know. Yes. Now that we have friends there. That's right. Yeah. Yes. So it's safe to say that, uh, that, that you that she liked it. Yes, she did. She learned that question. Absolutely. Yes. Yes. I mean, I realize that the people that were there, they were very welcoming, you know, and, uh, and they start talking to you. So everybody was very friendly and, you know, so, and that the girls made you feel like, you know.

7:01 So that, we started just like talking to other people and, you know, so it was, it was nice, you know, so. Okay. Was actually, it was like on a Wednesday, it was like, they call it like candlelight, uh, Wednesday. Yeah. They used to have that. They used to have that before. And so that was nice because it was like, they kind of like a romantic night in the middle of the week, you know? So yeah, that's when we went there the first time and then we went on a Saturday and you know, we started going 'cause And you start meeting people and just start meeting people. Yeah. You, they don't have three heads and regular people, you know? Yeah. Like fun, you know? So that was nice, you know. Yeah, I think it took us a couple of years to realize that people didn't have three heads and they were actually, everybody was just regular people. Yeah.

7:41 We've been in the lifestyle for, yeah, we've been in it for 15 years, and it does, it does take a little bit to kind of get your toes in there. And I think maybe two years ago was the first time we went to a club and Yeah. Yeah, it's been fun. So yeah, we, we have lots of bucket lists to do though. We have so many bucket list, Coverages. Now, I will tell you, there's a, I have so many questions as far as somebody who's never been on a cruise, and I think you guys have the answer. Mm-hmm. Uh, I will say as far as a first timer, someone who is curious, but nervous, what is their first step? Like when they're coming to the boat, like they're about to, uh, board, what would you tell somebody who's brand new to help ease their nervousness?

8:24 But usually before we have groups, because before when people booked, we already, we have like, we create groups usually. Okay. Um, on Facebook. Ah, which pair each per trick, you know? So the good thing about it is people start not like meeting other people and having questions and everything, and they post it in there Smart, which makes like breaking the ice kind of thing. Oh, you know? And that helps. So if somebody wants, like, okay, so what do we bring? What is this? What is that? So it helps in that sense. Some people are posting, who's coming they themselves. So that way somebody, for example, is from. To say from Texas or from Florida. Then the other couples that might be from the same area were like, oh two, and you know, start breaking the ice.

9:05 So that's a good, start. Then when they get there, you know, I mean, usually we have, not usually in every, when we have a cruise, we always have a, a hotel, a host hotel. So because we recommend for people that are cruising to get there at least a day before, before one night before, one night before the. Because you don't wanna get there, miss your flight or something, and then the cruise leaves without you would drive. I mean, things happen, you know, so it's recommended usually, especially on a cruise ride drive day before, and that's when we have a host hotel and we do a meet and greet. So that's how we start. Oh, now that is so smart. I know. That is very smart. Now do y'all have, is it a cruise for.

9:47 Are there singles? Is it only couples? It's mostly, what's the dynamic? I mean, mostly the dynamics. Mostly couple, but we have some, you know, what they call it like. It varies. Few singles, social, right. And we have our coverage, so, and our security. But then also there's couples that request, for example, to have a tri zone, you know, and they, yeah, they vouch for that person, you know, then, we then that's fine. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I'm excited. We focus selecting singles, but we focus more on couples. Couples, absolutely. Yeah. Minority couples. Yeah. And also when we are on board. After the drill, because always there's a mandatory drill safety drill.

10:27 Uh mm-hmm. We have a welcome reception. Okay. And we always have a newbies seminary, or newbies meet and greet. Where, okay. All the new couples or first timers, you know, with also, or the lifestyle come and. Introduce themselves, and we have our host couples that also, bring them in and ease those fears. And, uh, at the end, it's a regular cruise just adapted to the lifestyle. Okay. And with that said, these, we know our people like to party late, so we don't have any activities like early, early in the morning. So we move everything, everything is customized to our people, the schedule.

11:10 Oh, so, so there's no, so y'all have certain themes, morning breakfast and all that. So everything, all the schedules, all discussions, and all the theme nights. And we bring our own DJs. Entertainment, we create, playroom. So sexual activities can happen there, you know, and as I always use this analogy first time or all the times you want we set up like a buffet. And in that buffet we have everything and anything. And then you select if you want to try something, you go. Try it. If you like it, you go for more. If you don't like it, you just leave it.

11:50 Same with the lifestyle, you know, if you want something, you can try it and then if you like it, keep on going. Good. Yeah. And then if not, then you say, okay, the good thing is not for me in the lifestyle. I mean, I think it's actually something that is the rule that like a no is no right? I mean, so Correct. I keep very respectful, you know, of that. So I think that's part of it, you know, so now it's, it's funny. Peppa that you say that, because I've always said that the lifestyle for me is like a sexual buffet. Like that. That's, that's why, that's why I like it so much is because everybody is different. Every experience is different. Correct. And you know, you can have this variety.

12:33 As much as you want or as little as you want. You know, it's, that's so that's funny that you said it that way 'cause Yeah, That's my, yeah, absolutely. That's my go-to line. Yeah. But it's true, you know, I mean, so, because also you, you evolve as you go, you know? 'cause at the beginning you say, oh yeah, you have set of rules and then you know, you see and explore and you start liking different things and you, you go. You, it's a journey. It's not like, so then you try different things and, uh, you'll feel more comfortable with some people, some environments. So, yeah. Yeah. No, that's, that's very true. Is it more of a pool, so. We aren't really like partier. We're not, but we're early morning risers. We're early morning risers.

13:14 We go to, you know, I mean like we'll go to the club. We've stayed up late before. I think the latest we stay up is around two on a Saturday. Well that's So like paint the picture. I'm thinking, this is what I'm thinking. And I guess maybe it could be or could be not. Maybe not, but I'm thinking very party-ish. Is it very like. I don't know. I think of college like very, you know, is it more like that? Okay. Well then you already sold me. We come entertainment. We have theme nights where everybody after dinner comes, you know, and we have music, DJs, partying. Okay. We also have workshops. Yeah, I mean re workshops. I mean, we have. Different kinds of things going on. Oh, wow. Seminars.

13:54 Educational. Educational, because one our motto is, you know, we want you to go see your friends and meet new friends. Enjoy whatever destination we go get to explore and get to know the culture, the food. And also we, the, we do these seminars that enhance your life. Could be tan track. Different things, hormones, and uh, wow. Wow. We have doctors. So we want you to also learn something that you can apply in your daily life after My goodness. Well, you said hormones. I'm like, oh yeah, menopause. I mean, exactly. It's, I mean, perpetuity. So it's like, you know, we have experts on the field that will talk about it.

14:36 Yeah. And it's open foreign, and then people discuss about it. And it's a great environment to talk about it because then you realize you're the only one. You're not the only one, and you can't run away from the conversation. You're on a boat. That's very true. You're pretty much stuck there. You gotta have that conversation. Yeah, but I mean, at the end of the day, the couples are mostly in, in like the age ranges between like early forties to like mid sixties, you know? So there's a little bit of variety of everything. So. Yeah, there's a part, but it's also like different things. It's not just like, this is not like a spring break, you know? Yeah. It's, it's different. And it depends on the event that we have. Some, for example, the River Cruises eating, they include also the tours, right? So then the, so you go tour together and everything, and then you come back and there's like the seminars, and then there's the dinner, and then the dj, and you could stay up to whatever, you know, like a mini.

15:25 People have different things, you know, so it depends on, some of the couples like to stay late. Some of the couples, they just wanna party. Some of the couples, they just wanna keep, you know, like, like chat and everything or go to the playroom. So there's variety of things to do. I love that. And then, go ahead. That's cool. You know, I, I, so I am curious about one thing as far as, for an everyday lifestyle couple who's looking into your, your different cruises that you have, I guess. I, I, I know that they can choose by location. Mm-hmm. You know? Mm-hmm. They get to see where you're, you're going in different spots, but what are other ways that they can choose the right trip for them? Like, do you normally, like, put what you're gonna have on there? Or, or, do you, is it different for every cruise?

16:06 So like us, we're brand new, right? Yes. Like, we've never been on a cruise. Would you recommend a, I dunno, like a bigger, a bigger place, like a further away kind of cruise or? What are your days look like too? Like are, is it like three to four days or is it like. Most of our events are, are seven, seven nights. Okay. Seven nights. The, the yes and depend on what you want. You want, uh, to go because of the destination. Then you select what you want, you know? Mm-hmm. You want some more, uh, boutique experience. Then I think the. The river cruises will be mm-hmm. You want more entertainment, more things going on. Then the ocean cruises are better because then you have more venues, more okay.

16:50 Restaurants, more things to do. There's more options. And are, they are slightly bigger. Most of our events, you know, our cruises, river cruises grow both from 50 couples. Okay. 50 cattle, two. Largest. Oh, wow. Okay. That's our river cruise. The river cruise is, and they're great because they're very intimate. They're effortless in the sense that, you know, there's now these big security lines to get on board or to disembark. It's so easy. Easy. Yeah. And you can plan everything before. Or you can go, well, just next day and next day, what's gonna happen tomorrow? Okay. Show up 10 minutes before and just jump in.

17:31 In whatever tour or excursion that is happening. It's kind of going in. Somebody's like big private jet kind. Okay. Okay. And then the other ones, the ocean are, well, you have more stuff, you know, going on and more things. Mm-hmm. And more spaces and everything. Mm-hmm. Yeah. There's shows, there's clubs, there's shows. Yeah, movie theaters. There's more, oh, they're larger. Like the one we're having now in this coming fall. Uhhuh from October 2nd to the ninth. We're going from child to Boston, you know, to change, to see the change of colors. And we're gonna go on, um, ultra luxury, uh, cruise line. Cruise line included. Caviar, champagne, everything.

18:12 Breakfast, lunch, dinner. They have nine different restaurants on board. One is noble. Which doesn't cost you anymore. It's included. Wow. We have also a steakhouse, very famous steakhouse. That's when you go, normally it's $200 per person, you know, everyth is included. And uh, have a, that's a Crow Italian restaurant, three star, Michigan Michelin star. Mm-hmm. So everything is included. Do y'all go on every cruise? Yes. The ones we organized actually, yes. How exciting. Well, now I'm gonna, I gotta take it up a notch. Do y'all play on every cruise, or are y'all busy working? No, we were, and the ones that we work, we're committed to make sure everything, everybody says that I was, I, I had to ask.

18:58 I'm sorry I had to ask. No, I know, I know. Because they would be difficult for me working. I mean, it's a different story because we have to be. Mm-hmm. In meetings at nine o'clock sometimes, you know, with the captain right in the morning. Right. And then we have to reach, but like when, you know, when everything closes, you know, to make sure, like, call us and Okay, everything's done. You know, so you're more involved. It's work. So it's. But we do have, but you can still, we like, we like what we do, so it's not common, I'm sure. And you can network. Yeah. I'm sure that, uh, when you're not working, you'd be like, Hey, I, I'm gonna give you a call when I'm not working you. That sort of thing. Yes. To create, you know, and like the dinners and everything. 'cause usually what we do is also with our team, is that we host dinners, you know, so for example, somebody new, what we do is. Every day we have big tables, so like about between two, eight to 10 couples or something.

19:42 And then all of our team of the staff, you know, uh, they sit with like the different clients so that way everybody, and they put people together so it make, it breaks the ice, you know. So that way, for example, because these couples that have been several times, so they already know it's kind of like a family reunion or a school reunion. So they know a lot. Yeah. But some couples that are new, but we do it in these cases. Between us and our host couples, we sat with them and we put groups together, you know, and we introduce you, for example, with, you know, other couples that will sit within dinner with us. And then that way, you don't feel like, oh my God, I don't know anybody. And I'm sure you see a lot of like friendships just kind of building and just like, which is pretty cool to be a part of just Yeah, to have friends.

20:25 And then you can even have friends in just different places because I'm sure everyone is coming from just. Different in the friends. We are connecting in Spain and they were, you know, clients and they are like, oh, you connect, you have like, you know, like five hours in Spain in Madrid to connect to Malaga. And they're like, they went to pick us up at the airport. Literally they, you know, we went to have like wonderful, they took us around for a little bit and then they drove us back. To the airport. To the airport. So I mean, things like that happen wonder, you know? So that was really nice. You know, sometimes not even your family do that. Oh yeah. Most times. That's all the time for us. But that's why mean this is the kind of networking and friendships that just, you know, you create.

21:06 Absolutely. Yeah. Now, how, how big are, are, how packed do these things get? How many people show up to these? Because you said some of them are 50 to 80. The smaller one was 50 to 80. Cabin The business one that we handle us. We want more. Boutique is 300 cabins, so that's 600. 600 people. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. So that's the one from Montreal to Boston. That's the Yes. Deluxe cruise line, you know? Yeah. That is so cool. I know. And how, how many cruises do y'all do like a year? Is there, there's usually a couple, or a few because we do cruises and we also do hotel takeover, you know, so we have Oh, really? Oh, we have hotel, take for example, in Florida, those are like smaller states or shorter states.

21:49 Like the ones in Florida was for like four nights. Four nights. And then, and then we just did one in, uh, in Mexico. That was, that was seven nights, you know, but I mean, so we do also hotel decor and we're planning new ones in, uh, in Spain as well. And so we do everything we do of these little getaways, like for. Bucket lease places like we in South Africa, we're coming again on 2027. So we have two. And those are smaller. Those are for 15 couples, you know, because it's, it, it's different. Or we're living to Egypt. Wow. By the end of January we're gonna Egypt. And I saw that one. Yeah, about 55 couples. Just 55 couples. But that the tari are for like 15, so that's our more get.

22:33 Do y'all get to a place where you have to tell people, okay, I can't take any more people. We're good. We're booked already. Well, yeah, exactly. Yeah. We come, we sold out. Right. Sold out. Especially those, yeah. So yeah, I'm sure it hurts to have to turn people away. Toos. And so you do hotel takeovers as well. Is that everywhere in the United States, or is it just right now in Florida? Only thing we only, the only place in United States we have done was south Beach. Okay. The rest is, is in, uh, Mexico, Europe. Ah, okay. Yeah. Europe mostly. Yes. Yes. Spain, pretty much. Oh my gosh. And we have, have to go to one of those. We, we've done a couple of takeovers here, but they're smaller, you know, they're about two days now.

23:16 Is it the entire hotel is taking over the entire hotel. Yeah. Yeah. Really everything we do has to be a charter. You cannot meet much. Yeah, sure, sure. We can't. Or buy out entire hotel because otherwise Yeah, it'll not work. You know, it's funny, I I, I spoke to somebody who does, uh, hotel takeovers locally here, and they had told me that to save money, they only do like a floor. Yeah. You know, just, they just buy out one floor and that's where the takeover is just a floor takeover. And so I, I've never attended that, but I, that always stuck in my head and I was like, I would really want to take over the whole hotel. We went to one, yeah, we went to home where we, we took over the hotel. Difficult. I mean, in our, like I, your rival, sexy the girls and then Jo and then the family and, and there's grandma.

24:04 Yeah. Yeah. Just a little bit awkward. Yeah. Yeah. Just a little. Just a little bit. Wow. So, so these, uh, hotel takeovers, they, are they normally like a weekend long kind of thing, or is they. Several days. It depends. Um, well, the hotel is usually, uh, five nights, five to seven nights. Five to seven nights. Depends five to seven nights. Like the ones Mexico, seven nights, and then the ones like in Florida's five nights. And then we're gonna do, now we're gonna focus on some, uh. Spain, some like castles and everything. So yeah, Claudia, you just became my best friend as a, as a, as a woman, you know, we always like, oh, the printer, you know, like, I love, love the castle. They're literally flying, doing the research, and I was looking, oh, I got the counter.

24:47 In Romania, so I was like, okay, well let's do something going there. That's amazing. I mean, those are unique. Yes. Unique experiences. Unique experience. It's not like we're not selling you a vacation, you're getting into an experience, you know, so you have an experience and you're get gonna get immersive into the country, you know? So that's what I think. It's no more than a regular vacation, this is more an experience. God, I mean, you sold me on seven days without any kids. Yes. And then yes. What's incredible is the trips and the takeovers themselves sound incredible. Yeah. They sound amazing. And then you add onto the fact that it's lifestyle and lots of sex could be happening. Exactly.

25:28 Are you kidding me? Exactly. That's, that's perfect. That is, that's absolutely perfect. Now, I'm kind of, 'cause I know that you guys are, you guys are heading off to Spain soon and y'all are gonna be there for, for a few months. How do you decide on. Where you are going to plan your next trips in the upcoming years, because that takes a lot of planning. I'm sure that's, that's exhausting. We still survey clients and then we also have our own, uh, like places that we wanna go, as, you know, vocally, destinations. So we put them sometimes also as part of the survey. Okay. These are like places that, we plan to do things and you know, and then they say, okay, yeah. Like, hmm. You know, I always, we always wanted to go to Tanzania and San Bar, right?

26:10 I mean, was gonna, oh yeah. So we say, okay, let's try it out there. And we ask the clients, will you be interested in joining us? And they say Yes. So we'll then that's when we put it together. You know what, we need to see if what the people, you know, they go Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. That's amazing. They're working now in Japan, Asia. Japan. Oh, that would be amazing. That's another one on our list. Yeah, I know. We wanna go everywhere. I do better start that. Only fan, sir. I dunno, ain't nobody gonna pay me. They ain't gonna pay me for nothing. Do y'all have any, any final advice for people who have been in a lifestyle, curious And they, they, like us, we're procrastinating, we wanna go, but we're like, oh, it's kind of scary, but.

26:52 I always, always believe in living the moment. So you had to because just do it. You just do it. Just do it, it, okay. Put your act together, put your, you know, your things and get your shit together and get it done. One thing about our events, we announced them with 24 18 months in advance, so you can, and you say, okay, I wanna do this, you know, and then, okay, cost. Amount of dollars and you can start paying monthly. And then by the time the trip comes, everything's paid. Yeah. Yes. Happy. You're ready to go. Have fun and enjoy. You know, it's, we love that. That's what we found out. I didn't realize that certain cruises, you put down a payment and you can just keep, you keep paying it until it's time to go.

27:37 And I was like, That's, I, that would, I was like, oh, that works for us. Yeah. I mean that's, that's definitely how it, I mean, if they had Afterpay, I'd be using Afterpay. We have about, like, we have a pretty good group that likes we like to travel with, so. Yeah. Yeah. That works out really well. Well, and we actually have a crew that we work with that, uh, yeah. Likes to travel as well. Perfect. So, yeah. Yeah. And organiz you, you know, when you bring your friends, I think it's also, especially, this is the first time that will be great because then you have also your friends, you know, oh, your Texas delegation. Yes, that's right. Yes. I, I, I'm very curious about something because nobody is born with the knowledge. And I like Claudia. I like the just do it attitude. I'm all about it. Yes. But there was a time where y'all went from.

28:20 Corporate to lifestyle, and you had your very first lifestyle cruise. Did it go well? Was it, was it something that you kind of had to learn from or there was things that came up? We actually, I mean we have technic wood, we haven't like big issues or anything. I mean very, very well, you know, and, um, the good thing, this cruise line was also emerging in the market and they needed customers while several others say, no, this one's. They were very welcoming and they were very open to the concept. And then at the beginning, of course, everybody lifestyle law is gonna be like, uh, you know, spring breakers with money.

29:00 No. But it's, then they realize, again, it's people that are so respectful and they, they're there to have fun. And that even our people, once we been in any. Hotel or cruise line. Oh, they wanna swap. They want us back. Because the people, I mean, at the end of the day, they are doctors, lawyers, entrepreneurs, you know, teachers. I mean, well we have a, any awards winners You so people that just want prize to have fun, you know? Uh uh, and it's a different kind of fun. I mean, and I love, it's a different kind of fun. All right. It is. It's, that is a different, you said it there, it's end at the end.

29:41 People are there to have fun and joy and have a good time with their spouse. Yeah. Yes. And with their friends. New friends. And their new friends. And their new friends. That's right. That's right. That's right. Now, and, and, you know, I would, I would assume, and, and correct me if I'm wrong here. Not only lifestyle itinerary type stuff, but there's regular stuff. I would, I would assume that, that you would see on any cruise ship. Uh, yes. Car karaoke and things like that. Oh, now we do karaoke. Yeah. Yeah. I mean it's, I mean, even the tour, you know, you go and it's, you go to the tour, you go visit the different, you know Yeah. You go explore CD sites, destinations, so that is highlights and then come back and you do your.

30:22 I like little excursions when y'all, when y'all stop at the port or wherever, right. And you just get off and you just kind of go into the, to the little cities and stuff. Wow. Yeah, yeah. So when you go, you're getting off and you're enjoying that piece of land. The, the I, that's the beauty about cruising is because for example, like the European ones, or even the ones over here that we're doing, you know, I mean you go from Canada by C or you know, in Europe and you go to visit different countries, you know what I mean? The river cruises you go to like. Sometimes three different countries in, you know, on the seventh line. Oh, wow. Know, which is really nice. You go to different, you know, and, and, and visit the different ports and the different cultures. You know, like one day you're in France the next year, you know, and then you wake up and the next day you're in Italy.

31:06 You know, you're in know Amsterdam. Amsterdam, you know German. Yeah. And it's beautiful because one day just pick. French. French, and then you listen to the other language, you know? Yeah. Also, the beauty of this is like the cruise lines, especially the, the river ones. Mm-hmm. Where they dock. You can just go out and you're in the middle of, of the city of the, so you can walk and do your thing because they're not very on top that the, all the restrictions and tools are included, you know? Okay. Wow. Wow. What's y'all favorite one so far? I was gonna ask that. Yeah. What's your favorite place to eat? I'm sure it's different for both of y'all. Claudia. What? What? What is your favorite.

31:46 I like the safaris because I love the annuals and everything and I love to be there, you know, experiencing everything like right there. And then we just did also Antarctica, so it was like something that Oh my goodness. Was like going to like another planet. Exactly. Because yeah. Yeah. It was just like different, it's so different, you know, and unique and everything. And I mean, each one has its own beauty, you know? Um, yeah. We also, I mean, I love the European ones as well because I love to try all the different, like I'm a hoodie, right? So I are, we love different from the different regions, right? Uh, from the same country or even from a different country. So I love to try with the locals, you know, I like to those restaurants, you know, try out whatever they eat, you know?

32:28 I mean, I love that. And also. I also like shopping, you know, so I love to shop the thing you, she's speaking her language way much, you know, so it, it's thing, and also it depends of the other cities you could, we include sometimes like the going to a lifestyle club, and Oh yeah, like in Montreal we do, we're gonna have, you know, the day before, you know, that's, uh, with the club, we arrange everything to have all the couples going to. I like a club that is local, you know? My gosh, it's gonna be Oh, local people. The Canadians. Yes. And big people. Why not? Yeah. And we have done, you guys have thought of everything that is so loud, because then it's like, okay, you go to another club, you know, by the hand.

33:09 And then you know, they take you there with other couple, and then you see other couples. You see the local couples also, you know, so they could become also junior friends too. That's right. Yeah. World traveler. That is so cool. Pep, which one is your favorite? Well, I like this, uh, the Naked City. I'm sure you heard about it. Cabia in France? No, no. I don't know anything. No, no. Please tell me. It's kind like the Disney, it's the Disneyland for adults, you know? Really? It's an old town that converts into summertime, it's called Just part of that. Yes. I think you mentioned it and then I looked it up. Yeah. And then that was it. Really? Yes. I just heard about it. We just started in the sixties with the hippies, you know, and all these, no kidding.

33:50 Naturalist. And it has ball now. It's 40,000 people. Yeah. During summertime. And there's clubs for whatever you want. Yeah. They're naked if you like. Threesomes. They have threesomes. You got groups. Yeah. Anything. Oh my gosh. And um, it's a whole town, so you can go to the beach in the morning and then you can go out for dinner and. The beauty is they have from pizza by slice to fancy restaurants, anything in between. Most of the accommodations are apartments, so you have a kitchen, so you can go to the supermarket naked. Everybody has their picture naked in the supermarket you can buy your, you know, but then people dressed up at night to go to the twelves and it's, it's a great, it's a very, there's no other place in the world with that kind of print.

34:39 That you have there? Yeah. The freedom that you feel there is unique. I, yeah, I, I think that when on list we talked, you maybe have mentioned list person just had to try at least once. Yeah, yeah. And then, or I saw it on, I literally just saw it. We have it also in our website. We, for the last year, 14 years. 14 years, we really, every year. Yeah, every year we go. And then we combine it with different, uh, river crews or some other get it some cocos. They already, since they're already in Europe, they wanna do at least two weeks, you know. So what they do is, is they go take Kat tag with us, you know, for, and then we take them by the hand. We go together. Either we fly, we take a train or whatever. Depends on the next, destination. Destination. And then we go and then we board the, um, like we're going to Bodo this summer.

35:21 So we go to Cabc, France first. Mm-hmm. Uhhuh. And then we go to Bordeaux. To a river cruise. Yeah. And we're gonna go to all these wineries, you know. Oh my gosh. Great. If you like wine, that's the place. Yeah. That's the place. So unique, we're gonna. Close one of the chats. Yeah. And have a, a cocktail and a concert only for our people. Yeah. Look at that. We very unique experiences. Yeah. That sounds like a lot of fun. Was also Yeah. So, you know Yeah. Exploring the world with your friends and with your, having fun. And so it's fair to say that even if you were to join one of these cruises and you didn't even play with anybody.

36:04 You're still getting a lot, lot for your money. Having fun come a lot of fun. Absolutely. It's a cruise. It's an amazing cruise. Mm-hmm. On top of it's to be with no, possibly no kids. No kids. That's, that's the magic work. I'm speaking my language. We have five, four kids. We have teenagers and Yeah, it's fun. It's exhausting. It's actually, they're really good kids, so thank goodness they're good kids. Yeah. Thank goodness for that. They didn't turn out like me with parents. Yeah. A vacation or, yes. Claudia Pepe, you, you guys are, are going to be our salvation as far as us learning the world because yes, like I said before, I've never been out of the States. Mm-hmm. Uh, outside of Mexico and we have had plans to start.

36:46 Looking around and scoping things out. And I love the fact that that we're going to be actually joining you guys, uh, in October. Yes. Very excited about that. Yes. Going from, uh, from now, is it Montreal? We we're starting with the, with the mega mega ride feet. I'm, I said might as well. So tell me, tell me about the trip in October. It's mon Montreal for sure. Montreal, we start in Montreal, you need to fly. Mm-hmm. Ideally one or two nights before. And um. I dunno if you've been to Mon. No. You haven't been to No, I have been. I've been to North Dakota. I've been an hour away from Canada. We have no passport. Canada's a little different. Very European.

37:27 Yes. It's very nice. They speak French. French. Canadian French is the first French Canadian. They have both, yeah. Mm-hmm. And uh, it's a very charming city with a lot of fin to see and explore nature or. They have amazing restaurants. Oh, they have amazing restaurant. From all the museums from like street food to like make a fancy, I mean, have everything very nice. They have great clubs. They're very open-minded, you know, like Canadians, right? Yeah. Yes. They're very, okay, so you, so, so we get there, it's Montreal, and then you're there for about two days and then you leave. I would recommend you, we'll arrive two nights before we always arrive. Okay. Then we'll have, uh, on the night before.

38:08 Of the cruise. We have a meet and greet at the host hotel. Okay. And people, even if they're not staying there, they can come. They come, yeah. And we'll introduce the people and give you the highlights. Normally, whoever is staying at the hotel, we're gonna send their luggage to the port, so when they arrive, the luggage will be already at the, at the cruise and they just need to check in and, um, get to the cabin. Once you're on board. Everything is included. Breakfast, lunch, dinner, unlimited, um, beverages, alcoholic, non-alcoholic. And the only thing you need to worry about is to make reservations to all these fancy restaurants I was mentioning.

38:49 Okay. The steakhouse, the Italian place, Michelin Stars and Nobu, and they have, uh, the main restaurant. They have a daily different book. Menu every day they change it. Wow. Oh no. The food there is fantastic. The food, I mean. Okay. And the drinks and the service. This cruise is the cruise line that has more space. Per guest that any other. Any other cruise line? Yeah, it's super nice. Okay. Because these, you're cruise line was, uh, it was made for 900 people, but they decided to do it more boutique, more nice. So they, from every two and a half rooms, they make a suite.

39:30 So now it's more suites now. So now it's only for 600 people. So you have Cool. So the cabins are, so they have pickle bowl, uh, and courts. Two of them, they have, uh. Golf simulators and they have a movie theater. They have auditorium, they have a piano bar, they have an Cooper. Yeah. Yeah. It's fabulous. It's a great experience. So for Montreal where is this, where is this little boat going? It's not little, but where is it going? Halifax. Okay. Que, I know it ends in Boston, right? In Boston, yes. Okay. So I mean, because there's all these other like little other things that you're gonna stop at.

40:12 Let me look in the ports. Yeah, so we ports, you know where the Titanic Oh yeah. Halifax. That's really nice. Oh yeah. So that's where actually the Titanic san and they have, um, close to what, I mean, that's where like, uh, they have a, like a cemetery there where they have all like the people, there was a John Doon. Yes. That was, that is. And they also have a museum, that Titanic Museum and you don't see, see some of the artifacts that they rescue. Wow. Okay. Oh my gosh. How cool. And then we're gonna, oh, you're gonna have great, great, great security. Oh. So we're going to Nova Scotia. Okay. Seeking Nova Scotia. We're gonna Charleston bring Island.

40:57 We are going to Halifax and we are going to, uh, main Bar Harbor Main. Okay. And then you're gonna have Amazing lobster. They have. Yes. Oh, and the, if you like oyster and they had, you could, you could a different, um, how did they call it? Like the lobster? It's not sandwich. It's like a one, it's kind of like a lobster sandwich that they have. Oh. Like boy, a roll lo roll, lobster roll. Lobster roll. We call 'em, we call 'em po. We call 'em Po Boys here. PO. They have some lobster roll places out here. Yeah. Okay. I, so you could try all in know pretty much in all the ports over there, they have it. So you could try the different, like different ways of how prepare, you know, and each one says that they have the best, so you try.

41:38 Okay. Like the Canadian version in Hal? Yeah. Halifax free Uhhuh. So I'm gonna get there off then I'm gonna leave all go Vita. And you tell us what's your favorite. Alright. Boston, which I didn't know the Boston actually has the most photograph or most like Beautiful. They said the street in the us. Oh really? Street. Yeah. So. I like to learn the facts on each kind of thing, so. Well, I love that because fun facts do was healthy there. That's right. Yeah. And when you're talking to others about it, you know, on the trip you can direct 'em to other places. Yeah. Let them know it's fun facts. Yeah. That's really neat. And so when you get to Boston. Do.

42:18 Is that like the end of the journey? They fly out from Boston when I have another also. So some people could like, return back and some people they could do decide to stay and explore. If you've never been to Boston will be a nice opportunity to, you know, check around. It's nice. Has a lot of history, US history, a lot of history. But if not, then it, it goes back to, no, you. That's it. Montreal. No, no, no. You get disembarked. You're disembark. Oh, okay. And remember I wasn't certain, why did we go back and then we just get a round trip to Montreal. That's why I'm book, I'm booking it all, but she's my travel person. They'll be families and a very different, uh, environment than board. She's my travel agent, so I, I know nothing about this, you know, I, I get us from point A to point B in those.

43:02 Those points are here in town. That's about it. That's awesome. Yeah. So Well, so we are, we're really, really looking forward to being a part of that. For those listening, uh, we are actually going to be tar taking part in that trip. Mm-hmm. And we're going to be doing some shows and some tours from. The boat that we're gonna record. Yes. I'm gonna be able to put it out there. I think that's really, really cool. That's exciting. We already have a very nice studio board. Yes. That's a really good, nice. And I'm excited, you know, I love that. Now as far as, I have one final question because I'm an overthinker and this is stuff that comes up in my head. You know, I, I tend to get anxious when it comes to traveling because I, I, I'm all about packing and the logistics and how many bags and this and that.

43:44 Is it? Is it like flying? Can you only take so many bags or, and, and is there a weight limit? Like how does this work? The beauty of the cruises. You can bring as many bike as you want and you can bring, there's no limit to restriction on the cruise, however, remember, but flying, right, flying. That's true. There is, is gonna be your restriction. Yes. Okay. Well, luckily for me, I have everything I need to travel with my podcast equipment. We've, we've done some traveling, so we're good. We've flown with it before, so, yes. Yeah. We should be good there. Perfect. Yeah. Yeah. I'm excited. Well, you know, we're gonna go ahead and wrap up. Pepe. I, I really appreciate it. This was awesome.

44:24 Uh, thank you for hanging out with us and breaking all of this down, especially for Overthinkers. Like I, myself, my pleasure. Yeah. We, we loved it. We love Great to start with year. Yes. Oh, absolutely. And we're gonna have so many more conversations as we get closer to, uh, October. And, you know. I love the way you guys break it down because it doesn't feel weird or intimidating. That's what I was afraid of. I was very kind of, anxious about it all. Yeah. So if your lifestyle not you're feel very welcome since you get fit on it. Absolute. I love that. So if your lifestyle curious or you've been wanting to do a sexy vacation, but you want something with secure, no. With structure, community and actual hospitality, this is the kind of info that helps you do it the right way.

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