Swinger Education Matters: Inside Forbidden Fruit’s Workshops

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Alright y'all, before we
dive in, a quick heads up.

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This show is raw, real, and
definitely not rated pg.

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We're talking about adult themes, sexual
content, and the kind of stuff you

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probably don't want blasting through your
speakers at work or around your kits.

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So grab some headphones, pour your
drink of choice and get comfy.

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Oh, and just so we're clear, we are not
licensed therapists, counselors, or sex.

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Couches.

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Sex coaches.

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Sex coaches,

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not sex couches

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or just a couple of people sharing our
lives, experiences and sexy adventures.

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An ethical non-monogamy.

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So with that, pull up a
chair and enjoy the show.

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And.

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Hello and welcome to another
episode of Beyond Monogamy.

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I'm Adam.

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And I'm Pris.

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Today we are not in the studio.

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We are actually live on location
at one of our favorite spots.

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Forbidden Fruit, hanging out with some
amazing people, incredible energy, and

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honestly, probably the best classroom
you'll ever find for learning about

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pleasure, communication, and connection.

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Yeah.

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And if you've ever been curious about
the lifestyle education or just becoming

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more confident in yourself and your
sexuality, this is the whole experience.

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And today's episode is extra special
because we're talking about education

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in the lifestyle and why learning
matters way more than people think.

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Exactly.

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People think swinging is just
show up and figure it out.

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Mm-hmm.

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And honestly, the people who have the
best experiences are the one who learn.

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Uh, they communicate, they grow.

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And that's where workshops
like these ones come into play.

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Yep.

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And speaking of that, we're also excited
because we're gonna be hosting our very

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own Swinger 1 0 1 workshop in March.

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Wait,

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is it March?

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Did we reschedule?

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It is in March.

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Okay.

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March 20.

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March.

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I wasn't paying attention.

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I know that there was, I know
there was some rescheduling

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going on, so I was like, hold on.

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Did we, did we, did we get the

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29th?

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March

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9th.

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March 29th.

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And we're very excited about that.

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Insanely excited, for sure.

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Insane.

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Sure, excited.

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Now before we dive in, quick reminder,
if you love what we do, please

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like, subscribe, share this episode
with someone who's curious about

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ethical non-monogamy, and leave us a
review, because one, that's awesome.

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We love that.

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And two, it helps us, uh, you
know, get discovered in this space.

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Grow.

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We, we, we do grow.

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Yes,

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we grow a little bit.

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Anyhow, today we are sitting down
with someone who has helped educate

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and guide so many people stepping
into this new experience here.

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He runs and he leads a lot of the
workshops here at Forbid and Fruit,

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including things like Fellatio 1 0 1,
BDSM 1 0 1, and other education focused

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classes that help people learn in safe,
fun, and judgment-free environments.

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He's basically the guy helping
turn curiosity into confidence.

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There you go.

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So please welcome Johnny.

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Yes.

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Hi everyone.

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Thank you for joining us on the show.

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We appreciate it.

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Plus, we always look forward to,
uh, you know, getting to hang

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out in a room full of dildos.

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I feel like I've been in
a room full of dildos.

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I feel like I, I feel
like you're in a room.

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I feel like you work in
a room full of dildos.

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I pretty much work with a
guy who's probably a dil.

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He's a walk and talk dildo.

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Good for you.

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It is what it is, right?

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That

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is literally my when I go to the corner
store, they're like, Hey, how's it going?

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And I say another day, another dildo,

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another day of working
with dildos all day long.

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It is what?

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It's,

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Hey, guess what?

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There's a, that's actually something that
a lot of our listeners can relate to.

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Mm-hmm.

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I'm sure a lot of them work with dildos.

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Yep.

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Now I've gotten to explore the
history of forbidden fruit.

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I've gotten to explore the Lynn's
history with forbidden fruit.

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Mm-hmm.

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But Johnny, I gotta know.

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So how did you get involved
with Forbidden Fruit?

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Short and quick.

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I've known Lynn for multiple years.

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We used to do shows together and at
one show, which is, uh, extravaga acid.

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Okay.

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Uh, which was the fetish ball
here many, many moons ago.

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We're on the last day.

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We're all tired.

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We're closing out.

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I look at Lynn and I'm
like, are you hiring?

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I mean, that's easy enough, right?

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It's easy enough.

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I, I learned, just looked over it
like it's me, Lynn, and Jerry in

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the box office counting out money.

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And I just looked over at
her and like, are you hiring?

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By All

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means, means?

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And she was like, yeah.

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Wow.

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And the rest was history.

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And the rest was history.

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I mean, how long have you been with, how
long have you been with Forbidden Fruit?

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Since 2010.

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Wow.

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15. 15,

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yeah.

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16 years.

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It was 15.

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It was 15 years in December.

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That Troga used to be in November.

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Okay.

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And so I started on December 10th, 2010.

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All right.

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Wow.

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I mean, that's cool.

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What's Extravaga?

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What is it, did you say?

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It was the Austin Fetish Ball.

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And it's no longer around.

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It's no longer around.

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When was the last one?

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Long story tell you later,
but someone else took it over.

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Okay.

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And it no longer exists.

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Damn.

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Looking forward to hearing that story.

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We can't publish,

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I can't tell You'all that story.

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Got it.

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Now, you're, uh, one of the first
things that we were introduced when

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we were introduced to you was that
you are the master of ceremonies.

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You are the person who
handles the workshops.

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Yeah.

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Uh, here.

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And so what made you
wanna focus on education?

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What made you get involved
in these workshops?

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I'm gonna tell you it was Charla Hathaway,

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Charla Hathaway.

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She was the, she's the founder of
the Body Joy School here in Austin.

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Okay.

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She is currently on her world tour.

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She will be in town, uh.

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Early April, the second third.

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So Charlotte taught the blowjob class.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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So

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Charlotte taught the class before I did.

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Okay.

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And Charlotte turned to me
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I was the one that like, you know,
did all the background stuff.

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Charlotte turned to me and
said, Johnny as a penis haver.

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And a penis lover, what do you think?

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I

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mean,

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and afterwards she was like,

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Johnny,

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you're here.

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You know, all of this.

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Why do I have to keep,
keep coming over here?

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And that made me think.

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Good boy.

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And so literally Charlotte Hathaway
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teaching, and I learned more
and more because I was curious.

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I mean, I, I've always been curious
about everything in the world,

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but but I was like, yeah, why does
Charlotte have to come down here?

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Yeah,

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I can talk about blow jobs, blow jobs

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all day.

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I could talk about cuddling
is not my expertise, but

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guess

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I could take that class.

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I dunno, I think we could
double team that class.

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We could double team that

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class.

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Please do.

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But yeah, so, uh, yeah, that's how
I got into education is another

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educator brought me in because she
is like, you already know this.

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Why are you,

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yeah.

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Not, not saying wasting my time.

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Yeah, but why do I have to come down to

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why?

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To teach

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a class where you're literally standing.

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Right?

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I, yeah.

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That's a really smart, I've never
taken a class on like fellatio or

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No, she just has it naturally.

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Cu is it cunnilingis

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Lingus, CUNN.

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cunnilingis.

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Not cunnilingis.

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No, no, no.

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It can be if wanted be

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Thought so.

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I thought itus.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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I've never taken a class.

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I could definitely give
a class on that though.

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I, I

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feel like a lot of people
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I mean,

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be like, okay guys, give it a shot.

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I'm gonna be right here.

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Everybody take your turns
line forms to the left

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short story we used to have.

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So Fellatio 1 0 1.

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That class sells out every single
time I go and do in-home parties

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to teach that class Lingus.

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Three people.

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Really?

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Because

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now, because guys don't care about that.

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Come on man.

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I'm

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very, I'm very curious.

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Guys, just want to get nut, I know
something else, but I'm very curious.

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When you have your fellatio
class, is it more men to women?

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It's more women.

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It's a lot of so if it's at home,
it's always a bachelorette party.

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Okay.

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If it's in store, I'm gonna say
it's actually about a 60 40.

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Okay.

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And so you, and so it's mostly
women, but then there's also guys

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that come right, like partners,

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right?

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That will come with the cuntalingus.

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It was like one couple and one guy.

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Then we combined them and
we created cunnilingis.

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Oh,

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that's so

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sweet.

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Which is combined fellatio and Kaus.

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Yeah.

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And so if a guy think that he's
gonna get something out of it, then

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yeah.

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And uh, the cunnilingis class,
I would say is pretty 50 50.

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Okay.

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It so more guys will come to a
class that also includes blow jobs.

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Yeah.

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Uh, and I'm just gonna give it away now.

265
00:09:25,973 --> 00:09:32,933
My cunnilingis class is
about 70% cunnilingis.

266
00:09:33,258 --> 00:09:33,548
Okay.

267
00:09:33,978 --> 00:09:35,928
70% cunnilingis,

268
00:09:36,328 --> 00:09:36,658
period.

269
00:09:36,718 --> 00:09:41,728
I do, I, I talk about fellatio,
but no, that class is.

270
00:09:42,228 --> 00:09:42,648
Okay.

271
00:09:43,308 --> 00:09:48,048
More education toward pleasuring
those who have vaginas.

272
00:09:48,408 --> 00:09:48,888
Yeah.

273
00:09:48,918 --> 00:09:50,958
Because otherwise

274
00:09:51,558 --> 00:09:54,068
I feel like that needs to be taught.

275
00:09:54,568 --> 00:09:56,878
I, I think that there's a
woman, there's, well, yeah.

276
00:09:56,878 --> 00:09:58,918
I mean, even women as well as men.

277
00:09:58,978 --> 00:09:59,368
Yeah.

278
00:09:59,518 --> 00:10:02,038
Everybody likes to think
that, oh, I'm, I got this.

279
00:10:02,368 --> 00:10:03,028
I could do this.

280
00:10:03,178 --> 00:10:03,688
No problem.

281
00:10:03,958 --> 00:10:06,058
And a lot of times they don't
know what they're doing.

282
00:10:06,058 --> 00:10:09,808
So as, as a bisexual, I totally
thought that, I thought,

283
00:10:10,498 --> 00:10:10,738
yeah.

284
00:10:10,738 --> 00:10:11,173
She thought

285
00:10:11,178 --> 00:10:12,523
that I can do exactly what a woman wants.

286
00:10:12,523 --> 00:10:12,913
Like, I'm

287
00:10:12,913 --> 00:10:13,628
a woman, I know what I,

288
00:10:13,628 --> 00:10:15,628
I know what I want and
I know what they want.

289
00:10:16,618 --> 00:10:18,528
No, but I ask.

290
00:10:19,158 --> 00:10:19,308
Yeah.

291
00:10:19,308 --> 00:10:22,788
So I ask the woman, I'm like,
okay, so how do you like it?

292
00:10:22,788 --> 00:10:23,988
Like, what is your preferred?

293
00:10:23,988 --> 00:10:27,348
Because a lot of people, a lot of
women don't ask their partners.

294
00:10:27,348 --> 00:10:29,388
Like, they just let their
partners do what they want.

295
00:10:29,388 --> 00:10:30,168
And I always like.

296
00:10:30,588 --> 00:10:35,798
Even now I tell Adam and I'm like I like
it this way than she's always that way.

297
00:10:35,798 --> 00:10:37,358
And we've been together for 15 years.

298
00:10:37,583 --> 00:10:37,823
I know

299
00:10:37,988 --> 00:10:39,128
I got changing moods,

300
00:10:39,128 --> 00:10:41,228
so, so I gotta be like a
DJ and, you know, do that.

301
00:10:41,728 --> 00:10:46,318
See, that's one of those things
about working with Moderna.

302
00:10:46,618 --> 00:10:46,798
Okay.

303
00:10:46,798 --> 00:10:47,218
So

304
00:10:48,148 --> 00:10:49,738
I love that sentence alone.

305
00:10:50,008 --> 00:10:56,303
I don't wanna say, I don't wanna say that
penises are easy, but easy to command.

306
00:10:56,304 --> 00:10:56,314
Yeah.

307
00:10:57,133 --> 00:10:57,423
Yeah.

308
00:10:58,068 --> 00:10:59,088
No, you're right.

309
00:10:59,088 --> 00:11:01,278
Working with vaginas, you, yeah.

310
00:11:01,278 --> 00:11:03,048
You have to know your partner.

311
00:11:03,108 --> 00:11:08,248
And some people like more
in, uh, more G-spot interior.

312
00:11:08,248 --> 00:11:08,338
Yes.

313
00:11:08,338 --> 00:11:09,913
Some people like, uh, yes.

314
00:11:09,988 --> 00:11:11,848
More clitoral external.

315
00:11:11,938 --> 00:11:12,238
Yeah.

316
00:11:12,338 --> 00:11:18,363
They're you guys can't see it on camera,
but we have like toys that will, but.

317
00:11:18,863 --> 00:11:21,593
If they like that cervical.

318
00:11:21,773 --> 00:11:22,193
Yeah.

319
00:11:22,823 --> 00:11:24,713
They like that deep penetration.

320
00:11:25,213 --> 00:11:25,453
Yeah.

321
00:11:25,453 --> 00:11:28,033
You have to know what
your partner is looking

322
00:11:28,363 --> 00:11:28,693
for.

323
00:11:28,698 --> 00:11:28,818
Yeah.

324
00:11:28,933 --> 00:11:29,173
Yeah.

325
00:11:29,283 --> 00:11:33,848
And so, yeah, working, uh,
working with vagina, it's harder.

326
00:11:34,348 --> 00:11:34,568
No

327
00:11:34,588 --> 00:11:35,888
pun there.

328
00:11:36,388 --> 00:11:36,948
I mean, it's,

329
00:11:37,133 --> 00:11:37,763
you have to put,

330
00:11:37,763 --> 00:11:40,223
I mean, there's not a whole lot to guys.

331
00:11:40,223 --> 00:11:43,223
I mean, if, if you wanna get us off,
like just, just put it in your mouth.

332
00:11:43,403 --> 00:11:43,703
Yeah.

333
00:11:43,703 --> 00:11:45,953
Like, you know, I mean,
I don't need a style.

334
00:11:46,043 --> 00:11:46,283
No,

335
00:11:46,283 --> 00:11:47,963
you don't have to do all this magic stuff.

336
00:11:48,173 --> 00:11:52,703
This is literally the quote that,
and within the sex industry, the sex

337
00:11:52,703 --> 00:11:58,703
toy, whatnot insert someplace warm,
preferably moist, thrust, repeat.

338
00:11:59,203 --> 00:11:59,953
Simple enough.

339
00:12:00,163 --> 00:12:00,973
Did you get that?

340
00:12:01,063 --> 00:12:01,663
That's right.

341
00:12:02,563 --> 00:12:04,753
And you know, the similar instructions
when you brush your teeth.

342
00:12:04,963 --> 00:12:05,293
Yeah.

343
00:12:05,648 --> 00:12:05,938
Yeah.

344
00:12:05,953 --> 00:12:08,653
So if you brush your teeth before
you, you're probably halfway there.

345
00:12:08,758 --> 00:12:09,298
That's right.

346
00:12:09,798 --> 00:12:10,008
Very true.

347
00:12:10,698 --> 00:12:11,028
Yes.

348
00:12:11,373 --> 00:12:15,588
But I do have a three
hour CIO 1 0 1 workshop.

349
00:12:15,798 --> 00:12:15,918
Wow.

350
00:12:15,918 --> 00:12:20,178
So I have more teach, but
that's where you start.

351
00:12:20,928 --> 00:12:23,418
I mean, I think people, I
just in general, people,

352
00:12:24,048 --> 00:12:27,078
is it still cunnilingis, like you
still doing the oralus one, or

353
00:12:27,078 --> 00:12:28,968
do you have it divided now to No,

354
00:12:29,153 --> 00:12:32,208
I, I have cunnilingis,
which includes conus.

355
00:12:32,213 --> 00:12:32,393
Mm-hmm.

356
00:12:32,478 --> 00:12:34,548
And then I just have fio.

357
00:12:34,608 --> 00:12:35,338
I gotcha, I gotcha.

358
00:12:35,423 --> 00:12:35,713
Okay.

359
00:12:36,213 --> 00:12:37,923
I'm gonna go to the Licious class.

360
00:12:38,423 --> 00:12:39,323
Licious 1 0 1.

361
00:12:39,773 --> 00:12:40,283
Yeah,

362
00:12:40,403 --> 00:12:41,003
that's right.

363
00:12:41,138 --> 00:12:41,618
I like that.

364
00:12:42,083 --> 00:12:45,973
I mean, I think people just
in general, I feel education.

365
00:12:46,483 --> 00:12:46,633
Yeah.

366
00:12:46,633 --> 00:12:47,083
Smart.

367
00:12:47,583 --> 00:12:48,933
We all need to learn something.

368
00:12:48,933 --> 00:12:52,533
And if you wanna be good in
bed and good with your partner,

369
00:12:52,603 --> 00:12:56,003
I have something that, that I've
noticed as swingers because you've

370
00:12:56,003 --> 00:12:59,983
been very, I don't know, you're open
about what you like and what you

371
00:12:59,983 --> 00:13:02,033
don't like When you're with other
people and you're like, look, mm-hmm.

372
00:13:02,593 --> 00:13:03,673
You're gonna want do this.

373
00:13:03,673 --> 00:13:04,543
You don't wanna do that.

374
00:13:05,173 --> 00:13:10,063
When it comes to giving instruction, have
you noticed that people take up on it

375
00:13:10,063 --> 00:13:13,183
or do they still do what they're gonna
do and they like, don't really listen?

376
00:13:13,183 --> 00:13:14,203
I think you've mentioned this

377
00:13:14,203 --> 00:13:14,563
before.

378
00:13:14,563 --> 00:13:17,623
They still do what they're gonna do
and then I just have to tell them

379
00:13:17,743 --> 00:13:19,003
like, I have to repeatedly like.

380
00:13:19,798 --> 00:13:23,308
Smack 'em in the head and
be like, not like that.

381
00:13:23,808 --> 00:13:25,838
I mean, it's like, no.

382
00:13:26,473 --> 00:13:29,683
I literally tell people not to smack them

383
00:13:29,688 --> 00:13:29,878
in the head.

384
00:13:30,378 --> 00:13:30,888
My bad.

385
00:13:30,888 --> 00:13:32,208
I haven't taken classes.

386
00:13:32,208 --> 00:13:33,933
Well, we haven't taken course
yet, so we'll be taking it.

387
00:13:34,353 --> 00:13:34,573
You

388
00:13:34,573 --> 00:13:35,493
see education

389
00:13:35,563 --> 00:13:35,853
guys

390
00:13:36,313 --> 00:13:40,878
in the, in, in, in my oral assist
class, I literally tell people, okay,

391
00:13:40,998 --> 00:13:43,728
you can like gently redirect them.

392
00:13:44,208 --> 00:13:44,508
Oh,

393
00:13:44,508 --> 00:13:45,808
but don't hit your partner.

394
00:13:45,958 --> 00:13:46,468
Oh,

395
00:13:46,468 --> 00:13:48,868
don't hit your partner
with a rolled up newspaper.

396
00:13:48,868 --> 00:13:49,588
Sorry, honey.

397
00:13:49,768 --> 00:13:51,358
Oh, hey, I following Instruc and go.

398
00:13:51,363 --> 00:13:51,783
It works.

399
00:13:52,228 --> 00:13:52,798
It works.

400
00:13:53,298 --> 00:13:53,988
Doesn't make me,

401
00:13:54,488 --> 00:13:59,498
I mean, do I, I will push you away
and I will tell you not like that.

402
00:14:00,068 --> 00:14:00,908
Not like that.

403
00:14:00,908 --> 00:14:02,738
But if I have to tell you more than
three times, I'll say, what's up?

404
00:14:02,768 --> 00:14:03,368
We're done.

405
00:14:03,638 --> 00:14:06,368
Well, so, you know, I've,
I've never taken a class.

406
00:14:06,668 --> 00:14:09,128
I am relatively good at.

407
00:14:09,503 --> 00:14:11,003
At at Eaton, the box.

408
00:14:11,963 --> 00:14:15,903
But the primary reason is because, and
this is something that we've talked

409
00:14:15,903 --> 00:14:19,713
about on past shows, is that I never
thought I was a very attractive person.

410
00:14:19,953 --> 00:14:22,023
And so I didn't do all
that well with the ladies.

411
00:14:22,413 --> 00:14:25,893
And so because of that I was
like, I gotta be good at something

412
00:14:26,223 --> 00:14:27,743
like to keep these ladies in.

413
00:14:27,743 --> 00:14:29,033
Now, I was not always good.

414
00:14:29,033 --> 00:14:31,883
I remember a very specific time, I
don't think I ever told you about this.

415
00:14:31,883 --> 00:14:32,873
Uh oh.

416
00:14:32,873 --> 00:14:36,893
But there was, this was when I
was a swinging young bachelor.

417
00:14:37,203 --> 00:14:38,313
I had my own place.

418
00:14:38,313 --> 00:14:43,803
There was this girl I used to talk
to on the online, uh, and uh, and she

419
00:14:43,803 --> 00:14:47,883
invited herself over to my house one
day and I was like, okay this is gonna,

420
00:14:47,883 --> 00:14:50,368
I, I made her dinner and she came in.

421
00:14:50,368 --> 00:14:53,308
She ended up not eating the dinner, but
we had like this make out session on the

422
00:14:53,308 --> 00:14:56,728
couch, and I ended up going down on her.

423
00:14:56,828 --> 00:14:58,298
I did not know what the fuck I was doing.

424
00:14:59,258 --> 00:15:03,373
And I remember she stopped me at one point
and she was like, you just bit my clit.

425
00:15:04,163 --> 00:15:05,333
That did not feel good.

426
00:15:05,333 --> 00:15:06,893
And I was like, oh, is that what that was?

427
00:15:07,393 --> 00:15:10,283
So like, and she wouldn't,
she wouldn't shut up about it.

428
00:15:10,283 --> 00:15:10,823
Oh my God.

429
00:15:10,823 --> 00:15:11,633
I was like, get over it.

430
00:15:11,663 --> 00:15:12,203
No, I'm just kidding.

431
00:15:12,413 --> 00:15:16,753
No, but she, she did, she, she
kind of ruined the moment and I

432
00:15:16,753 --> 00:15:18,193
was like, oh man, I'm so sorry.

433
00:15:18,193 --> 00:15:20,473
And she's like, yeah, that,
that didn't feel good at all.

434
00:15:20,473 --> 00:15:21,723
And it put a stipend on it.

435
00:15:21,723 --> 00:15:22,893
And so after that I was just like,

436
00:15:23,223 --> 00:15:23,973
was that the first time?

437
00:15:24,183 --> 00:15:26,823
That was, uh, the third time I think.

438
00:15:27,093 --> 00:15:27,273
Wow.

439
00:15:27,273 --> 00:15:29,073
So the other two didn't care.

440
00:15:29,073 --> 00:15:30,248
They were like GNA on it,

441
00:15:30,748 --> 00:15:32,738
The other two were just
like, let's get to the sex.

442
00:15:33,238 --> 00:15:34,228
Let's get to the sex.

443
00:15:34,618 --> 00:15:37,828
So it was, let's go from, but it
was that, it was that reaction.

444
00:15:37,918 --> 00:15:38,158
Yeah.

445
00:15:38,158 --> 00:15:40,888
That had me stop and go,
I need to figure this out.

446
00:15:41,668 --> 00:15:44,518
'cause whatever it is that I'm
doing, apparently is not working.

447
00:15:44,848 --> 00:15:45,268
Yeah.

448
00:15:45,418 --> 00:15:48,958
Uh, so I did, I, I read, I did
everything that I could to kind of learn.

449
00:15:48,988 --> 00:15:49,318
Okay.

450
00:15:49,498 --> 00:15:50,998
I watched a lot of Real sex.

451
00:15:50,998 --> 00:15:52,078
You remember that show on HBO?

452
00:15:52,078 --> 00:15:52,198
Oh God.

453
00:15:52,648 --> 00:15:53,428
Real sex.

454
00:15:53,848 --> 00:15:53,968
Yeah.

455
00:15:53,968 --> 00:15:54,108
I loved it.

456
00:15:54,108 --> 00:15:54,133
Yeah.

457
00:15:54,133 --> 00:15:56,818
I watched a lot of that show and
I learned a lot from that show.

458
00:15:56,818 --> 00:16:00,418
It's a shame it's not on, because I
think a lot of people could benefit from

459
00:16:00,473 --> 00:16:00,803
Yeah.

460
00:16:01,223 --> 00:16:01,823
To an extent.

461
00:16:02,323 --> 00:16:06,143
Well, this was back how long ago This was?

462
00:16:06,493 --> 00:16:07,883
This was back in high school.

463
00:16:08,383 --> 00:16:09,883
Do y'all remember Su Jo Hansen?

464
00:16:10,363 --> 00:16:11,083
I do actually.

465
00:16:11,083 --> 00:16:11,743
I remember that name.

466
00:16:12,643 --> 00:16:17,473
She was, this was like
Canadian PBS after Dark.

467
00:16:18,253 --> 00:16:18,373
Okay.

468
00:16:18,873 --> 00:16:23,843
And SU Johansen, she would, she had dolls
and she would, she would answer people's

469
00:16:23,843 --> 00:16:31,333
sex questions and like I, and it was
like Saturday night at like 11:00 PM and.

470
00:16:32,188 --> 00:16:37,858
My friends and I, again, in high
school, we would all like, make

471
00:16:37,948 --> 00:16:39,608
fake name go to Sam's House,

472
00:16:39,613 --> 00:16:39,873
Uhhuh,

473
00:16:40,373 --> 00:16:43,163
and we'd be like watching Su Jo Hansen.

474
00:16:43,223 --> 00:16:47,783
And she like describes and like
answers questions and like how

475
00:16:47,783 --> 00:16:49,313
to do this, how to do that.

476
00:16:49,373 --> 00:16:55,513
And she was literally like the sex grandma
think she was like 80 years old when she

477
00:16:55,513 --> 00:16:57,343
was, uh, when she was doing that show.

478
00:16:57,523 --> 00:16:57,943
Wow.

479
00:16:57,973 --> 00:16:58,153
Yeah.

480
00:16:58,153 --> 00:16:59,353
Like Dr. Ruth man.

481
00:16:59,413 --> 00:16:59,623
Yeah.

482
00:17:00,163 --> 00:17:03,103
I used, used to watch a lot of, and
she used to have that in that show, you

483
00:17:03,103 --> 00:17:04,123
know, it was just like, yeah.

484
00:17:04,413 --> 00:17:07,803
And again, this was in high school,
so this was back in the nineties.

485
00:17:08,303 --> 00:17:08,363
Yeah.

486
00:17:08,863 --> 00:17:10,303
But yeah, SU Jo Hansen.

487
00:17:10,303 --> 00:17:15,193
And that was the thing is like, she's
the one that actually she taught

488
00:17:15,193 --> 00:17:17,833
us a she taught us a lot of things.

489
00:17:17,833 --> 00:17:19,513
'cause a lot of us were.

490
00:17:20,013 --> 00:17:22,233
Exploring our sexuality

491
00:17:22,293 --> 00:17:22,533
mm-hmm.

492
00:17:23,043 --> 00:17:26,223
In the late nineties before the internet.

493
00:17:26,373 --> 00:17:26,853
Yeah,

494
00:17:27,353 --> 00:17:27,563
yeah.

495
00:17:27,563 --> 00:17:29,063
I couldn't just Google something.

496
00:17:29,063 --> 00:17:30,703
It's like, how's that feel?

497
00:17:31,203 --> 00:17:32,543
We were doing wrong.

498
00:17:33,043 --> 00:17:33,593
Belly button.

499
00:17:33,593 --> 00:17:33,913
Belly

500
00:17:33,913 --> 00:17:34,233
button.

501
00:17:34,733 --> 00:17:35,843
Stop ringing my doorbell.

502
00:17:36,343 --> 00:17:41,838
But yeah, you have to hit it once
before or, uh, have someone tell you

503
00:17:41,908 --> 00:17:42,048
Yeah.

504
00:17:42,233 --> 00:17:42,653
That

505
00:17:42,713 --> 00:17:43,793
they gotta call you out.

506
00:17:44,093 --> 00:17:44,393
Yeah.

507
00:17:44,993 --> 00:17:45,773
Unfortunately.

508
00:17:45,833 --> 00:17:45,953
Yeah.

509
00:17:45,953 --> 00:17:47,093
You gotta learn from your mistakes.

510
00:17:47,123 --> 00:17:48,113
Take that and move

511
00:17:48,113 --> 00:17:48,383
on.

512
00:17:48,383 --> 00:17:48,563
You

513
00:17:48,568 --> 00:17:48,768
can't.

514
00:17:48,773 --> 00:17:48,893
Yeah,

515
00:17:49,163 --> 00:17:49,553
you can't.

516
00:17:50,053 --> 00:17:52,813
So what I've noticed is whenever
you tell, sometimes when

517
00:17:52,813 --> 00:17:54,463
you've told guys what you want.

518
00:17:55,168 --> 00:17:57,208
Some guys get upset if you correct them.

519
00:17:57,388 --> 00:17:57,688
Yeah.

520
00:17:57,778 --> 00:18:00,688
Like, I know what I'm doing and
they, it's like a pride thing

521
00:18:00,688 --> 00:18:01,413
and it's like, no, I've never,

522
00:18:01,443 --> 00:18:01,858
I've never had that.

523
00:18:02,248 --> 00:18:03,088
I've seen it before.

524
00:18:03,213 --> 00:18:06,928
I, I, if I, if I ignored it, if that's
ever happened, but I have never been

525
00:18:06,928 --> 00:18:08,068
told, oh, I know what I'm doing.

526
00:18:08,068 --> 00:18:12,238
I, oh wait, I get messages
of, oh, I can do this.

527
00:18:12,478 --> 00:18:13,318
I saw that video.

528
00:18:13,318 --> 00:18:14,998
I can do that way better.

529
00:18:14,998 --> 00:18:16,203
And I'm like, yeah, no, you can't.

530
00:18:17,103 --> 00:18:17,523
You can't.

531
00:18:17,823 --> 00:18:21,333
I'm probably gonna have to smack you a few
times in the head so that you can get it.

532
00:18:21,573 --> 00:18:25,593
I mean, that's, I it's a really good
thing that y'all offer classes like

533
00:18:25,593 --> 00:18:31,473
that because education, like a little
guidance really goes a long way.

534
00:18:31,983 --> 00:18:34,623
And if somebody, if your partner's not
gonna tell you and somebody else is

535
00:18:34,623 --> 00:18:39,573
gonna tell you, I feel like take that
and go with it and see what, what helps.

536
00:18:39,843 --> 00:18:40,083
Yeah.

537
00:18:40,083 --> 00:18:43,733
And it's not like something that you can
YouTube the, you know, there's a lot of

538
00:18:43,733 --> 00:18:44,258
YouTube, this guy,

539
00:18:44,418 --> 00:18:47,063
no, there's a lot of stuff like
that's instructional that you can't

540
00:18:47,063 --> 00:18:49,703
have on mainstream media like that.

541
00:18:49,703 --> 00:18:51,688
I've actually tried YouTubing.

542
00:18:52,188 --> 00:18:56,748
How to give a proper blow
job or how to give a proper

543
00:18:56,748 --> 00:18:59,568
hand job or just any of that.

544
00:18:59,568 --> 00:19:03,078
I've, I've tried And you there's
nothing like that really.

545
00:19:03,313 --> 00:19:03,603
Yeah.

546
00:19:03,823 --> 00:19:04,043
Wow.

547
00:19:04,308 --> 00:19:04,728
Yeah.

548
00:19:05,268 --> 00:19:06,768
Proper education.

549
00:19:06,908 --> 00:19:10,528
It's actually one of the things
I kind of want to get into.

550
00:19:10,588 --> 00:19:10,708
Mm-hmm.

551
00:19:11,608 --> 00:19:13,918
We just aren't at that point right now.

552
00:19:13,948 --> 00:19:14,098
Yeah.

553
00:19:14,158 --> 00:19:21,908
Uh, with the store to just set up a whole,
and this is our video education section.

554
00:19:21,953 --> 00:19:22,243
Yeah.

555
00:19:22,243 --> 00:19:23,803
Because Yeah.

556
00:19:23,893 --> 00:19:27,063
It what platform are, are we gonna host?

557
00:19:27,478 --> 00:19:27,758
Yeah.

558
00:19:27,958 --> 00:19:28,198
I mean,

559
00:19:28,428 --> 00:19:29,758
because, I'm sorry.

560
00:19:30,073 --> 00:19:31,703
Especially with Texas right now.

561
00:19:32,053 --> 00:19:32,343
Yeah.

562
00:19:32,723 --> 00:19:33,473
Can't put it on.

563
00:19:34,268 --> 00:19:35,678
Porn hub or, yeah,

564
00:19:35,683 --> 00:19:35,853
yeah,

565
00:19:35,963 --> 00:19:36,253
yeah.

566
00:19:36,428 --> 00:19:39,878
So are we gonna, we're, yeah.

567
00:19:40,178 --> 00:19:46,628
So I would love to just record
classes during the pandemic.

568
00:19:47,128 --> 00:19:49,078
Uh, we actually did do

569
00:19:49,148 --> 00:19:50,048
Zoom classes.

570
00:19:50,108 --> 00:19:50,408
Yeah.

571
00:19:50,528 --> 00:19:52,503
But I was, I was trying
to think of what it

572
00:19:52,503 --> 00:19:52,703
was.

573
00:19:52,703 --> 00:19:53,143
That's cool.

574
00:19:53,423 --> 00:19:56,918
I was like, uh, it, it wasn't Instagram.

575
00:19:56,918 --> 00:19:57,368
What was it?

576
00:19:57,368 --> 00:19:57,998
What, yeah.

577
00:19:58,003 --> 00:19:58,183
Yeah.

578
00:19:58,508 --> 00:20:03,628
But no, it was, uh, we actually did Zoom
classes during the pandemic, but that's

579
00:20:03,628 --> 00:20:05,758
also like, I have to send you a code.

580
00:20:05,758 --> 00:20:07,018
You have to log in.

581
00:20:07,168 --> 00:20:07,438
Yes.

582
00:20:07,618 --> 00:20:14,218
And this is just like, if you were coming
into the store, this was a safe space.

583
00:20:14,248 --> 00:20:14,608
Yeah.

584
00:20:14,608 --> 00:20:14,618
Yeah.

585
00:20:14,908 --> 00:20:19,828
And I also told people, if you
want to have your cameras off,

586
00:20:20,038 --> 00:20:24,628
have your cameras off and everyone
has to have their mic muted.

587
00:20:25,018 --> 00:20:25,288
Yeah.

588
00:20:25,738 --> 00:20:26,038
Yeah.

589
00:20:26,538 --> 00:20:27,168
Uh.

590
00:20:27,668 --> 00:20:28,778
That was the idea.

591
00:20:29,408 --> 00:20:33,448
And it worked during the pandemic.

592
00:20:33,448 --> 00:20:37,708
We tried to do it one time post pandemic.

593
00:20:37,708 --> 00:20:38,968
It was my class.

594
00:20:39,468 --> 00:20:43,128
I'm the facilitator, I am the
general manager of the store.

595
00:20:43,628 --> 00:20:48,518
I'm here, I'm in charge, and I give I

596
00:20:49,018 --> 00:20:52,308
two minutes before I'm like,
okay, you need to mute.

597
00:20:52,548 --> 00:20:53,628
You need to mute your microphone.

598
00:20:53,628 --> 00:20:55,483
Oh, yeah, you need to mute your mic.

599
00:20:55,983 --> 00:20:56,193
I

600
00:20:56,193 --> 00:20:56,553
mean,

601
00:20:57,153 --> 00:20:57,993
don't get me wrong.

602
00:20:57,993 --> 00:21:02,633
I do think I'm a very handsome
lamp, but you need to mute your mic.

603
00:21:03,133 --> 00:21:03,423
Yeah.

604
00:21:03,923 --> 00:21:06,423
Now, when you do your,
your workshops here.

605
00:21:06,923 --> 00:21:12,243
How do you, like, do you have props
that you use to let's say on the, uh,

606
00:21:12,273 --> 00:21:18,373
with the fellatio 1 0 1 or do you have
rubber vaginas that you use for really

607
00:21:18,943 --> 00:21:19,273
Yes.

608
00:21:19,773 --> 00:21:24,763
So, uh, have, uh, for my classes this,
uh, they're outside educators that we

609
00:21:24,763 --> 00:21:27,433
bring in, that we love to bring in.

610
00:21:27,703 --> 00:21:32,193
I love to bring in another educator
to get that introduced to more people.

611
00:21:33,113 --> 00:21:40,043
But for my classes I always have
a PowerPoint and I have demos.

612
00:21:40,643 --> 00:21:40,973
Okay.

613
00:21:41,473 --> 00:21:46,153
One of my favorite demos I use
is in the drawer back there.

614
00:21:46,723 --> 00:21:50,243
His name is Justin and he is my demo dick.

615
00:21:50,543 --> 00:21:50,933
Okay.

616
00:21:50,933 --> 00:21:51,623
He demo dick.

617
00:21:52,123 --> 00:21:56,983
For vaginas, I use
Fleshlight not sponsored, uh,

618
00:21:57,483 --> 00:21:57,703
yet.

619
00:21:58,203 --> 00:21:58,743
Not yet.

620
00:21:59,243 --> 00:22:01,748
Uh, but we've known them for decades.

621
00:22:01,868 --> 00:22:02,198
Yeah.

622
00:22:02,258 --> 00:22:08,238
Uh, but yeah, so, I have a Fleshlight
vagina, which actually does have a

623
00:22:08,238 --> 00:22:11,058
clit on it, and it has labial lips.

624
00:22:11,238 --> 00:22:11,688
Oh, wow,

625
00:22:12,188 --> 00:22:12,218
okay.

626
00:22:12,218 --> 00:22:16,088
So it's not just like a soft,
smooth vagina, it's not just a hole.

627
00:22:16,568 --> 00:22:16,808
No.

628
00:22:16,838 --> 00:22:17,258
Yeah, it

629
00:22:17,318 --> 00:22:18,638
has labial lips

630
00:22:19,413 --> 00:22:20,063
like that one.

631
00:22:20,853 --> 00:22:21,143
Yeah.

632
00:22:21,428 --> 00:22:21,668
Like,

633
00:22:21,878 --> 00:22:23,198
oh yeah, like that one over there.

634
00:22:23,618 --> 00:22:23,828
Yeah.

635
00:22:23,828 --> 00:22:23,888
We

636
00:22:23,888 --> 00:22:24,488
can't show you

637
00:22:24,488 --> 00:22:24,728
guys.

638
00:22:24,728 --> 00:22:24,758
I,

639
00:22:25,258 --> 00:22:25,588
yeah,

640
00:22:25,593 --> 00:22:26,683
again, not on camera.

641
00:22:27,183 --> 00:22:27,723
Not on camera.

642
00:22:28,718 --> 00:22:29,588
You can come into the store,

643
00:22:29,978 --> 00:22:30,788
but yeah.

644
00:22:30,968 --> 00:22:35,198
Yeah, it has a clip, it has a leg,
lips, and so when I'm talking about,

645
00:22:35,618 --> 00:22:38,798
uh, kaus, I can actually point out.

646
00:22:39,298 --> 00:22:40,438
What goes here?

647
00:22:40,468 --> 00:22:41,728
What feels good here?

648
00:22:41,758 --> 00:22:41,908
Yes.

649
00:22:42,658 --> 00:22:44,008
Here's good for pressure.

650
00:22:44,008 --> 00:22:46,018
Here's good for just give it a flick.

651
00:22:46,288 --> 00:22:46,738
Yeah.

652
00:22:46,918 --> 00:22:48,448
Here's good for giving
it for the different

653
00:22:48,568 --> 00:22:49,738
erogenous zones.

654
00:22:49,858 --> 00:22:50,668
Exactly.

655
00:22:50,668 --> 00:22:51,148
Yeah.

656
00:22:51,598 --> 00:22:55,818
And so same thing with Justin,
here's good for a flick.

657
00:22:55,998 --> 00:23:00,138
Here's good for a lick, here's
good for a suck pressure versus

658
00:23:00,138 --> 00:23:02,808
suction pressure, blah, blah, blah.

659
00:23:03,468 --> 00:23:06,438
But also I have a PowerPoint

660
00:23:06,738 --> 00:23:06,978
Yeah.

661
00:23:07,008 --> 00:23:08,118
Going behind me.

662
00:23:08,358 --> 00:23:08,778
Yeah.

663
00:23:09,258 --> 00:23:10,788
That's explaining Yeah.

664
00:23:10,788 --> 00:23:11,478
Details.

665
00:23:11,808 --> 00:23:11,838
Okay.

666
00:23:11,838 --> 00:23:13,578
That is showing the details.

667
00:23:13,578 --> 00:23:17,098
The PowerPoint is all of my PowerPoints

668
00:23:17,938 --> 00:23:18,418
are funny.

669
00:23:18,918 --> 00:23:19,733
You gonna see, obviously

670
00:23:20,233 --> 00:23:22,768
in my PowerPoints, you're
gonna see a lot of memes.

671
00:23:23,368 --> 00:23:29,298
And a lot of like drooling, Homer
Simpson, like just weird things like that.

672
00:23:29,298 --> 00:23:29,778
So

673
00:23:29,988 --> 00:23:31,728
I have a drooling Adam, if you want it.

674
00:23:32,688 --> 00:23:34,218
He has a picture of him
and he's just drooling.

675
00:23:34,788 --> 00:23:35,418
Do you really?

676
00:23:35,598 --> 00:23:37,038
Are you taking pictures
of me when I sleep?

677
00:23:37,998 --> 00:23:39,168
This shit just got weird.

678
00:23:39,668 --> 00:23:39,698
Okay.

679
00:23:40,198 --> 00:23:41,943
So PowerPoint and, and, yeah.

680
00:23:41,943 --> 00:23:42,328
Yeah, yeah.

681
00:23:42,778 --> 00:23:43,978
I mean, that makes sense.

682
00:23:44,098 --> 00:23:44,308
Yeah.

683
00:23:44,788 --> 00:23:49,433
'
cause and I'll literally tell people
like, all right, so this is my tongue.

684
00:23:49,933 --> 00:23:53,713
What you can do with your
tongue is you can curl it up.

685
00:23:54,103 --> 00:23:55,393
You can go pin.

686
00:23:55,893 --> 00:23:57,603
We're coming in, coming.

687
00:23:57,608 --> 00:24:00,698
If you're squeezing down,
you're sucking in your cheeks.

688
00:24:01,198 --> 00:24:04,638
That's gonna add pressure, that's
going to add extra stimulation.

689
00:24:05,138 --> 00:24:06,398
It's different when I have toys.

690
00:24:06,548 --> 00:24:06,758
Yeah.

691
00:24:07,258 --> 00:24:11,903
But yeah, no, I just, I'm not
just like standing up there,

692
00:24:12,303 --> 00:24:13,923
do this, and you're done.

693
00:24:14,193 --> 00:24:14,523
Yeah.

694
00:24:15,063 --> 00:24:18,843
Because believe me, if it was that
easy, this store will be a lot smaller.

695
00:24:19,833 --> 00:24:20,433
I mean, that's

696
00:24:20,433 --> 00:24:20,523
true.

697
00:24:20,523 --> 00:24:23,163
Well, so I find, here's
what I find fascinating.

698
00:24:23,213 --> 00:24:25,673
How, how long are your
workshops on average?

699
00:24:26,173 --> 00:24:26,743
Time-wise,

700
00:24:27,613 --> 00:24:32,053
I can, uh, so the workshop in and
of itself, I can usually get that

701
00:24:32,053 --> 00:24:33,523
done in about an hour and a half.

702
00:24:33,763 --> 00:24:34,273
Okay.

703
00:24:34,783 --> 00:24:35,293
Wow.

704
00:24:35,443 --> 00:24:37,843
So this is what I, I, I kind
of was wondering about that.

705
00:24:37,843 --> 00:24:39,883
So you're, you're talking about a
workshop that's an hour and a half.

706
00:24:39,883 --> 00:24:41,623
Say it's, it's Fellatio 1 0 1.

707
00:24:42,163 --> 00:24:44,743
You can stretch that out
for an hour and a half.

708
00:24:45,553 --> 00:24:45,733
Yeah.

709
00:24:45,973 --> 00:24:46,063
Wow.

710
00:24:46,063 --> 00:24:47,743
We not working with the real guys.

711
00:24:47,773 --> 00:24:48,208
No, no, no.

712
00:24:48,213 --> 00:24:48,613
I know that.

713
00:24:49,073 --> 00:24:49,643
But so I, yeah,

714
00:24:49,673 --> 00:24:51,138
because that would be a too minute class.

715
00:24:51,423 --> 00:24:54,363
This is, this is where it's, it's
kind of amazing to me because

716
00:24:54,363 --> 00:24:58,083
I didn't realize that there was
so much that goes into that.

717
00:24:58,203 --> 00:24:58,443
Yeah.

718
00:24:59,223 --> 00:25:03,503
Just in my experience alone, I, I don't
know, maybe I can, maybe I can benefit

719
00:25:03,503 --> 00:25:07,583
from having a woman, uh, that maybe I'm
married to take a course like that Yeah.

720
00:25:07,583 --> 00:25:09,563
To show me some new stuff because Yeah.

721
00:25:09,833 --> 00:25:15,553
I've had, I, pretty much, anytime I've
gotten oral, it's pretty much been the

722
00:25:15,553 --> 00:25:17,863
same moves and they work just fine.

723
00:25:17,863 --> 00:25:17,923
Yeah.

724
00:25:17,953 --> 00:25:21,178
But I it's just kind of
like, lemme put it in BBBB.

725
00:25:21,678 --> 00:25:22,668
Let me use my hand a little

726
00:25:22,668 --> 00:25:22,878
bit.

727
00:25:22,878 --> 00:25:24,378
I mean, I feel like I do a
lot of different things every

728
00:25:24,378 --> 00:25:25,938
now yours is very seductive.

729
00:25:25,968 --> 00:25:26,478
Yeah.

730
00:25:26,568 --> 00:25:27,648
Uh, which I enjoy.

731
00:25:27,648 --> 00:25:27,768
Yeah.

732
00:25:27,768 --> 00:25:28,818
You know, you go very slow.

733
00:25:28,818 --> 00:25:29,628
You know how I'm Yeah.

734
00:25:30,558 --> 00:25:32,928
But I ask, so I'm like, do you like that?

735
00:25:33,558 --> 00:25:34,938
She'll ask sometimes.

736
00:25:35,238 --> 00:25:41,468
So one of the things I do teach in that
class and in both oral sex classes, uh,

737
00:25:42,038 --> 00:25:49,658
Lingus and, sorry, oralus and fellatio 1 0
1, 1 of the things I do emphasize in those

738
00:25:49,658 --> 00:25:53,698
classes is there is a performative aspect.

739
00:25:54,198 --> 00:25:54,738
Yes.

740
00:25:54,798 --> 00:25:56,418
It makes, your partner is looking

741
00:25:56,418 --> 00:25:59,268
down, they're looking at you.

742
00:25:59,748 --> 00:26:00,588
I'll go ahead and say it.

743
00:26:01,088 --> 00:26:06,778
In both those workshops, when I get to
Deep Throat, if somebody is inexperienced

744
00:26:06,988 --> 00:26:11,538
and they're, you know, trying it for the
first time, trying to, all right, let's,

745
00:26:11,838 --> 00:26:12,918
we're trying to get the whole thing.

746
00:26:12,918 --> 00:26:17,688
I, I teach how to give a deep
throat now if it hits your

747
00:26:17,688 --> 00:26:19,368
gag reflex and you're like,

748
00:26:19,868 --> 00:26:20,168
yeah,

749
00:26:20,668 --> 00:26:21,388
pull back.

750
00:26:21,808 --> 00:26:25,588
Breathe in deep and throw
in, oh my God, you're so big.

751
00:26:25,888 --> 00:26:26,938
Ha ha, hait.

752
00:26:26,938 --> 00:26:27,958
I've heard that before.

753
00:26:28,618 --> 00:26:29,938
I'm not feeling so good about myself.

754
00:26:30,438 --> 00:26:31,458
I keep it real.

755
00:26:31,458 --> 00:26:31,998
That's true.

756
00:26:32,498 --> 00:26:35,718
It's, I mean, for me,
I love, it's seduction.

757
00:26:35,718 --> 00:26:35,738
It's seduction.

758
00:26:35,738 --> 00:26:36,888
I love, um.

759
00:26:37,388 --> 00:26:39,338
I love like no hands.

760
00:26:39,548 --> 00:26:41,198
And then looking up at him.

761
00:26:41,348 --> 00:26:41,528
Yeah.

762
00:26:41,558 --> 00:26:46,148
Because I know that right there is gonna
be like, oh my God, I wanna hear the,

763
00:26:46,238 --> 00:26:47,978
oh my God, you're, you look so hot.

764
00:26:47,978 --> 00:26:49,598
And oh my God, that looks so sexy.

765
00:26:49,958 --> 00:26:53,198
I wanna hear it as much as
I'm sure he wants to see it.

766
00:26:53,468 --> 00:26:57,128
So what I, what I just found out though,
after all these years, she only recently

767
00:26:57,128 --> 00:27:02,078
told me like maybe months ago, uh, but
she said that one thing that she likes

768
00:27:02,078 --> 00:27:07,218
when she's going down on me is if I
get her hair, like if I move the hair

769
00:27:07,218 --> 00:27:10,488
out of her face and I just kind of put
it behind her and I hold, I hold it

770
00:27:10,488 --> 00:27:12,618
back like that, that she likes that.

771
00:27:12,618 --> 00:27:14,268
Like it makes her feel very sexy.

772
00:27:14,538 --> 00:27:14,688
Yeah.

773
00:27:14,688 --> 00:27:14,733
And this and that.

774
00:27:15,048 --> 00:27:18,528
And I've never ever, and that took
me to a new, a new, whole new level

775
00:27:18,858 --> 00:27:25,608
because I never thought about doing
stuff for you while I'm getting oral.

776
00:27:26,328 --> 00:27:30,378
That makes a difference in and of
itself because that, that makes the

777
00:27:30,708 --> 00:27:30,948
Yeah.

778
00:27:30,948 --> 00:27:31,098
Like,

779
00:27:31,098 --> 00:27:31,518
pleasure.

780
00:27:31,523 --> 00:27:32,193
Don't grab me even more

781
00:27:32,303 --> 00:27:32,993
that bob me.

782
00:27:33,048 --> 00:27:34,278
That's not what I'm here for.

783
00:27:34,953 --> 00:27:36,063
Been there, done that.

784
00:27:36,723 --> 00:27:39,908
I'm not in my twenties like this is, like

785
00:27:39,908 --> 00:27:40,028
I

786
00:27:40,028 --> 00:27:40,148
said,

787
00:27:40,288 --> 00:27:40,628
you know,

788
00:27:41,458 --> 00:27:46,203
like I said, there is the,
there's the polite way of

789
00:27:46,413 --> 00:27:46,683
bam

790
00:27:46,683 --> 00:27:47,373
moving their hair.

791
00:27:47,873 --> 00:27:49,073
You can do a,

792
00:27:49,553 --> 00:27:50,273
yeah,

793
00:27:50,273 --> 00:27:53,633
or you can give my hair net
beforehand and just kind of

794
00:27:53,633 --> 00:27:55,323
say, here to tie this back, my,

795
00:27:56,028 --> 00:27:57,633
where's my bonnet?

796
00:27:58,073 --> 00:27:58,383
Where's my bonnet?

797
00:27:58,383 --> 00:27:59,063
My pearls.

798
00:27:59,723 --> 00:28:00,443
Oh my gosh.

799
00:28:00,593 --> 00:28:00,923
Yeah.

800
00:28:00,923 --> 00:28:00,983
No,

801
00:28:00,983 --> 00:28:01,013
I

802
00:28:01,013 --> 00:28:04,493
would literally rather say, okay, when
I put on my bonnet, you know, then,

803
00:28:05,453 --> 00:28:05,933
you know,

804
00:28:05,963 --> 00:28:07,613
she puts on her bonnet and I'm like.

805
00:28:08,558 --> 00:28:09,488
We're not having sexy

806
00:28:09,488 --> 00:28:09,878
ladies.

807
00:28:09,878 --> 00:28:12,878
Do not do the OnlyFans
while wearing your bonnet.

808
00:28:12,878 --> 00:28:14,058
It is not hot.

809
00:28:14,213 --> 00:28:15,308
It's not a sexy look.

810
00:28:15,488 --> 00:28:15,758
Not

811
00:28:15,758 --> 00:28:16,718
sexy, sexy look

812
00:28:17,218 --> 00:28:18,088
of those that we pass through.

813
00:28:18,088 --> 00:28:18,658
We're like, no.

814
00:28:19,108 --> 00:28:19,528
Oh no.

815
00:28:19,528 --> 00:28:20,248
Pass the bonnet.

816
00:28:20,278 --> 00:28:20,458
No.

817
00:28:20,958 --> 00:28:21,258
Yeah.

818
00:28:21,258 --> 00:28:23,298
You know, it's, it's, it's nuanced.

819
00:28:23,328 --> 00:28:27,258
But there's certain things, like
even still to this day, depending on

820
00:28:27,438 --> 00:28:31,608
when, what position she's in and that
sort of thing, if she's going down

821
00:28:31,608 --> 00:28:33,168
on me from the side angle mm-hmm.

822
00:28:33,668 --> 00:28:37,058
Um, something happens where her
teeth will end up getting involved.

823
00:28:37,058 --> 00:28:38,318
I'm like, oh no, don't do that.

824
00:28:38,378 --> 00:28:38,648
You know?

825
00:28:38,648 --> 00:28:39,908
And so then she has to get in front of me.

826
00:28:39,908 --> 00:28:41,558
Like there's just different things.

827
00:28:41,888 --> 00:28:45,218
Uh, she, she tried the Deep
Throat thing at one point.

828
00:28:45,398 --> 00:28:49,268
Uh, 'cause we watched a movie about, uh, I
was just watching it Loveless about, yeah.

829
00:28:49,323 --> 00:28:50,073
Linda Loveless.

830
00:28:50,073 --> 00:28:51,608
Linda Loveless, uh, called Loveless.

831
00:28:51,608 --> 00:28:52,808
Great movie actually.

832
00:28:52,838 --> 00:28:54,218
I mean, I'm great at that.

833
00:28:54,218 --> 00:28:59,588
But I've finally figured out what
I need to do in order to be really

834
00:28:59,588 --> 00:29:01,658
good and continually deep throat.

835
00:29:01,868 --> 00:29:03,113
It's really position, yeah.

836
00:29:03,908 --> 00:29:08,198
It's position on where, how
you're bent over, where he's at.

837
00:29:08,203 --> 00:29:08,828
Work, work.

838
00:29:08,828 --> 00:29:10,268
You have to work with your body

839
00:29:10,273 --> 00:29:10,613
mm-hmm.

840
00:29:10,838 --> 00:29:12,038
And your partner's body.

841
00:29:12,098 --> 00:29:12,338
Yeah.

842
00:29:12,908 --> 00:29:17,788
And this is also one of the
things I emphasize in when

843
00:29:17,788 --> 00:29:20,188
I talk about fellatio, is

844
00:29:20,688 --> 00:29:23,418
if you ask him to move, he will move.

845
00:29:23,918 --> 00:29:24,998
He can position himself.

846
00:29:25,148 --> 00:29:25,568
Yeah.

847
00:29:25,568 --> 00:29:25,578
Yeah.

848
00:29:25,578 --> 00:29:25,613
Yeah.

849
00:29:25,808 --> 00:29:26,648
If you ask him to.

850
00:29:27,428 --> 00:29:29,318
I mean, if you're putting
my dick in your mouth Yeah.

851
00:29:29,318 --> 00:29:30,938
I'll, you want move, I'm a whip.

852
00:29:30,938 --> 00:29:31,418
That's all good.

853
00:29:31,538 --> 00:29:34,868
If a guy is getting a blow job and
you ask him to move, he will move.

854
00:29:35,108 --> 00:29:35,348
Yeah.

855
00:29:36,043 --> 00:29:36,578
It's true.

856
00:29:36,578 --> 00:29:37,358
Short point period.

857
00:29:37,388 --> 00:29:37,478
Mm-hmm.

858
00:29:37,718 --> 00:29:37,958
Yeah.

859
00:29:38,018 --> 00:29:38,648
Are you kidding me?

860
00:29:38,648 --> 00:29:40,538
You could ask me to play
checkers, I'd be like, whatever.

861
00:29:40,538 --> 00:29:41,288
Whatever you need me to do.

862
00:29:41,293 --> 00:29:41,413
Yeah.

863
00:29:41,803 --> 00:29:42,093
Just,

864
00:29:42,188 --> 00:29:42,488
yeah.

865
00:29:42,578 --> 00:29:43,418
You wanna mow the lawn?

866
00:29:43,808 --> 00:29:44,138
Sure.

867
00:29:44,528 --> 00:29:45,338
Just put it in your mouth.

868
00:29:45,838 --> 00:29:46,078
Alright.

869
00:29:46,708 --> 00:29:47,908
We're simple creatures.

870
00:29:48,408 --> 00:29:48,558
I think

871
00:29:48,558 --> 00:29:49,578
there's a song that says that.

872
00:29:49,578 --> 00:29:50,508
Just put it in your mouth.

873
00:29:50,673 --> 00:29:50,963
Yeah,

874
00:29:51,073 --> 00:29:51,363
yeah.

875
00:29:51,463 --> 00:29:52,243
Put it in your mouth.

876
00:29:52,968 --> 00:29:53,028
Yeah.

877
00:29:53,118 --> 00:29:53,238
Know.

878
00:29:53,738 --> 00:29:54,368
There you go.

879
00:29:54,518 --> 00:29:54,808
Yeah,

880
00:29:54,808 --> 00:29:55,088
yeah,

881
00:29:55,598 --> 00:29:55,888
yeah.

882
00:29:56,008 --> 00:29:59,313
I mean, it's a, it's, yeah,
it's just really smart.

883
00:29:59,313 --> 00:30:03,483
I mean, it is good to ask your
partner, get classes, figure it all

884
00:30:03,483 --> 00:30:06,303
out, because you wanna be good at it.

885
00:30:06,603 --> 00:30:06,963
Yeah.

886
00:30:06,968 --> 00:30:07,248
Yeah.

887
00:30:07,473 --> 00:30:09,153
And of course, practice makes perfect.

888
00:30:09,183 --> 00:30:09,513
Yeah.

889
00:30:10,013 --> 00:30:14,333
That's the other thing I always
say is, Hey, I wanna try this.

890
00:30:14,933 --> 00:30:16,103
Your partner's not gonna say no.

891
00:30:16,553 --> 00:30:18,263
Yeah, exactly.

892
00:30:18,713 --> 00:30:21,593
If he's gonna say, or if
they are gonna say No, get

893
00:30:21,593 --> 00:30:23,473
yourself a new partner, period.

894
00:30:23,973 --> 00:30:25,083
They're not, they're not gonna say, no,

895
00:30:25,088 --> 00:30:25,288
no.

896
00:30:25,533 --> 00:30:26,133
Trust me.

897
00:30:26,163 --> 00:30:26,493
Yeah.

898
00:30:26,993 --> 00:30:30,653
Hey I will watch this OnlyFans video.

899
00:30:30,653 --> 00:30:32,183
Mm-hmm.

900
00:30:32,273 --> 00:30:33,923
It no longer exists, but.

901
00:30:34,628 --> 00:30:36,038
Y'all are as about as old as I am.

902
00:30:36,538 --> 00:30:38,023
So we're all on the same page.

903
00:30:38,953 --> 00:30:41,123
Do y'all remember the grapefruit?

904
00:30:41,603 --> 00:30:42,023
Yes.

905
00:30:42,523 --> 00:30:48,373
So I tell people you can like,
be as ladylike as you wanna be,

906
00:30:48,373 --> 00:30:49,903
or you can go full grapefruit.

907
00:30:50,403 --> 00:30:52,483
I mean, it's really up to you.

908
00:30:53,083 --> 00:30:53,143
Yeah.

909
00:30:53,383 --> 00:30:56,083
Your body's gonna respond
however it wants to respond.

910
00:30:56,083 --> 00:30:57,553
And you can make things happen, though.

911
00:30:58,483 --> 00:31:02,733
I have for Colonel Lingus, there's
a very like, pointed tongue.

912
00:31:02,733 --> 00:31:02,943
Like

913
00:31:03,423 --> 00:31:03,753
Yeah.

914
00:31:03,753 --> 00:31:04,413
Like very,

915
00:31:04,473 --> 00:31:04,773
yeah.

916
00:31:05,553 --> 00:31:10,053
And then I also have a picture
of a woman who is like,

917
00:31:10,553 --> 00:31:12,118
yeah, where's her mouth?

918
00:31:12,618 --> 00:31:13,488
She's in there.

919
00:31:13,663 --> 00:31:16,243
And I'm like, girl, okay.

920
00:31:16,243 --> 00:31:18,043
You're ha you're having a good time.

921
00:31:18,043 --> 00:31:20,023
Hopefully your partners
also having a good time.

922
00:31:20,773 --> 00:31:20,923
Yeah.

923
00:31:20,923 --> 00:31:20,943
And so.

924
00:31:21,443 --> 00:31:26,243
Find out what your partner wants, find out
what your partner likes and go from there.

925
00:31:26,513 --> 00:31:26,693
Yeah.

926
00:31:26,693 --> 00:31:27,893
That's so interesting.

927
00:31:28,103 --> 00:31:28,253
Yeah.

928
00:31:28,253 --> 00:31:32,983
Now, as far as your work workshops are
concerned have you I, I'm, I'm so curious.

929
00:31:32,983 --> 00:31:35,353
I can't wait to really scope
these things out, but Sure.

930
00:31:35,413 --> 00:31:40,093
Have you, since you've been doing these,
have you had like any drama op have there

931
00:31:40,093 --> 00:31:43,283
been, I I'm sure there's all different
kinds of characters that come in, and

932
00:31:43,283 --> 00:31:47,513
I'm pretty sure that not every one of
these things have gone perfectly to plan.

933
00:31:47,843 --> 00:31:50,403
Uh, you have different
personalities that come in.

934
00:31:50,408 --> 00:31:50,428
Mm-hmm.

935
00:31:50,513 --> 00:31:53,883
And, and maybe some people don't
wanna be there, but they're being

936
00:31:53,913 --> 00:31:56,403
dragged along to learn something new.

937
00:31:56,403 --> 00:32:00,093
Or maybe you got some really horny
ass people in that, that are just

938
00:32:00,093 --> 00:32:02,373
like, we cannot wait to try this.

939
00:32:02,373 --> 00:32:03,483
Can we try it right now?

940
00:32:03,483 --> 00:32:04,353
You know, stuff like that.

941
00:32:04,623 --> 00:32:05,973
You gotta have the stories, man.

942
00:32:05,973 --> 00:32:06,603
Spill the tea.

943
00:32:07,103 --> 00:32:07,813
Spill the tea.

944
00:32:07,968 --> 00:32:08,958
Spill the tea.

945
00:32:08,958 --> 00:32:09,018
Two

946
00:32:09,693 --> 00:32:10,968
of my favorite stories.

947
00:32:11,118 --> 00:32:12,198
One, uh, okay.

948
00:32:12,198 --> 00:32:15,318
My first story, this was
at an in-home workshop.

949
00:32:15,348 --> 00:32:15,648
Mm-hmm.

950
00:32:16,108 --> 00:32:20,848
They're paying me hundreds of
dollars to come to their house.

951
00:32:20,918 --> 00:32:22,538
It's a bachelorette party.

952
00:32:22,838 --> 00:32:25,228
We're doing fellatio 1
0 1, blah, blah, blah.

953
00:32:25,988 --> 00:32:31,078
They decided that they wanted
to practice during the workshop.

954
00:32:31,188 --> 00:32:31,478
Okay.

955
00:32:31,478 --> 00:32:31,488
And

956
00:32:31,843 --> 00:32:33,103
so they bought cucumbers.

957
00:32:33,603 --> 00:32:39,238
I don't know what whole foods
they went to, but they Oh my god.

958
00:32:39,738 --> 00:32:42,943
The biggest fucking
cucumbers I had ever seen.

959
00:32:43,363 --> 00:32:49,323
And I was like, if dude's like, probably
like 12 of, I was like, if all 12

960
00:32:49,323 --> 00:32:52,008
of y'all, y'all men are like this.

961
00:32:52,938 --> 00:32:53,238
Okay.

962
00:32:53,298 --> 00:32:55,068
What NFL team are you on?

963
00:32:55,568 --> 00:32:56,473
What did their moms feed them?

964
00:32:56,973 --> 00:33:01,743
So anyways, I was like, okay I
understand that's what you wanna do.

965
00:33:02,103 --> 00:33:03,273
Let's trim 'em down.

966
00:33:03,453 --> 00:33:04,863
Yeah, let's get something.

967
00:33:05,223 --> 00:33:07,498
And so, uh, when the kitchen, they let's

968
00:33:07,498 --> 00:33:08,098
trim 'em down.

969
00:33:08,553 --> 00:33:08,913
They

970
00:33:08,913 --> 00:33:09,633
chopped them up.

971
00:33:09,693 --> 00:33:10,323
They did.

972
00:33:10,648 --> 00:33:11,613
They they made it

973
00:33:11,613 --> 00:33:11,853
more

974
00:33:11,853 --> 00:33:12,273
average.

975
00:33:12,773 --> 00:33:17,508
They brought them down to what would
be I would consider to be average.

976
00:33:17,513 --> 00:33:17,663
Okay.

977
00:33:17,663 --> 00:33:21,498
Average being about like
five to seven inches.

978
00:33:21,618 --> 00:33:21,978
Yeah.

979
00:33:22,478 --> 00:33:26,128
And about only about an
inch and a half wide.

980
00:33:26,698 --> 00:33:27,598
So they redid them.

981
00:33:28,098 --> 00:33:28,458
Alright.

982
00:33:28,958 --> 00:33:35,998
One girl did not, that girl was at least
one sheet to the wind when I walked.

983
00:33:36,498 --> 00:33:39,733
She was definitely three sheets
to the wind by the time I left.

984
00:33:40,233 --> 00:33:41,453
And so, uh.

985
00:33:41,953 --> 00:33:43,813
I get to the point
about Deep Throat again.

986
00:33:43,813 --> 00:33:43,933
Mm-hmm.

987
00:33:44,433 --> 00:33:49,323
And she was like, oh, I
already know you do that.

988
00:33:49,823 --> 00:33:50,573
Oh my God.

989
00:33:51,073 --> 00:33:55,153
Again, already drunk, gagged
herself so bad that she ran

990
00:33:55,153 --> 00:33:56,413
to the bathroom to throw up.

991
00:33:56,713 --> 00:33:58,213
Oh my gosh.

992
00:33:58,633 --> 00:34:00,013
And I was like, oh my God.

993
00:34:00,433 --> 00:34:03,943
And so part of me is like,
should we go check on her?

994
00:34:04,543 --> 00:34:09,103
And like one person got just like
got up and like walked off and

995
00:34:09,103 --> 00:34:11,443
everybody else is just still sitting
there like, okay, keep going,

996
00:34:11,653 --> 00:34:12,013
keep going

997
00:34:12,673 --> 00:34:13,183
as you were.

998
00:34:13,543 --> 00:34:13,783
And I'm

999
00:34:13,783 --> 00:34:14,158
like, okay.

1000
00:34:14,158 --> 00:34:15,973
So apparently Stacey does

1001
00:34:16,603 --> 00:34:16,693
this.

1002
00:34:16,693 --> 00:34:17,113
Yeah.

1003
00:34:17,233 --> 00:34:18,613
Like nobody moved.

1004
00:34:19,273 --> 00:34:19,993
They did not

1005
00:34:20,493 --> 00:34:21,573
everybody's got that friend.

1006
00:34:22,073 --> 00:34:23,183
Everybody's got that friend.

1007
00:34:23,363 --> 00:34:25,403
It's like, oh, this, it is crazy.

1008
00:34:25,903 --> 00:34:25,963
A

1009
00:34:26,413 --> 00:34:26,923
cucumber.

1010
00:34:27,423 --> 00:34:29,238
And then in, I wish

1011
00:34:29,238 --> 00:34:35,118
that in front of me, but here's
a kicker is in section C, it

1012
00:34:35,118 --> 00:34:38,313
says, with or without constraint.

1013
00:34:38,813 --> 00:34:40,073
With without consent.

1014
00:34:40,573 --> 00:34:41,203
Oh shit.

1015
00:34:41,203 --> 00:34:42,823
So even if they have consent,

1016
00:34:43,543 --> 00:34:47,413
and that's why I always say you don't
do BDSM with someone you don't know.

1017
00:34:47,413 --> 00:34:48,763
Mm-hmm.

1018
00:34:48,818 --> 00:34:50,083
This is not a tender date.

1019
00:34:50,743 --> 00:34:57,163
This is not the first time we met because
if y'all, we all consented, we having fun.

1020
00:34:57,163 --> 00:34:57,793
Yay.

1021
00:34:57,848 --> 00:35:02,948
They go to a PD, so y'all have fun on
Saturday, they go to a PD on Monday

1022
00:35:03,788 --> 00:35:05,858
with bruises and ligature marks.

1023
00:35:05,918 --> 00:35:06,038
Mm-hmm.

1024
00:35:06,538 --> 00:35:07,708
Your ass is going to jail.

1025
00:35:08,038 --> 00:35:08,308
Wow.

1026
00:35:08,308 --> 00:35:09,268
Wow,

1027
00:35:09,838 --> 00:35:10,498
wow.

1028
00:35:10,708 --> 00:35:13,108
With or without consent.

1029
00:35:13,468 --> 00:35:14,158
That's good to know.

1030
00:35:14,518 --> 00:35:14,758
Yeah.

1031
00:35:14,878 --> 00:35:14,968
I

1032
00:35:14,968 --> 00:35:17,518
mean, and that's why, that's
why I mentioned it in my class.

1033
00:35:17,638 --> 00:35:17,998
Yeah.

1034
00:35:18,413 --> 00:35:18,703
Yeah,

1035
00:35:18,708 --> 00:35:19,138
it is.

1036
00:35:19,138 --> 00:35:19,438
Yeah.

1037
00:35:19,528 --> 00:35:20,848
That is important to know.

1038
00:35:20,853 --> 00:35:20,863
Mm-hmm.

1039
00:35:20,963 --> 00:35:21,263
For sure.

1040
00:35:21,263 --> 00:35:21,663
Mm-hmm.

1041
00:35:22,258 --> 00:35:26,803
If you thought y'all were having a
good time until like two days later.

1042
00:35:27,303 --> 00:35:28,473
They changed their mind.

1043
00:35:29,013 --> 00:35:29,103
Wow.

1044
00:35:29,103 --> 00:35:31,743
So never do BDSM with
someone you do not know.

1045
00:35:31,743 --> 00:35:32,223
Or you do not.

1046
00:35:32,723 --> 00:35:33,083
Oh man.

1047
00:35:33,083 --> 00:35:35,933
I'm so glad that you said that because
I was like, man, I'm gonna start

1048
00:35:35,933 --> 00:35:38,903
getting into different experiences
and I wanna learn different things.

1049
00:35:39,473 --> 00:35:41,753
Uh, but never thought to have
that in the back of my head.

1050
00:35:41,753 --> 00:35:41,993
So,

1051
00:35:42,813 --> 00:35:47,853
I say that to say this literally, and this
doesn't happen in two different classes.

1052
00:35:48,303 --> 00:35:51,213
I've had people just like
stand up and walk out

1053
00:35:52,203 --> 00:35:52,563
really?

1054
00:35:53,163 --> 00:35:55,383
Well, I would say in the
class we're all adults here.

1055
00:35:55,623 --> 00:35:56,013
Yeah.

1056
00:35:56,163 --> 00:35:56,433
Yeah.

1057
00:35:56,793 --> 00:35:59,403
And so yeah, they'll just
stand up and walk out.

1058
00:35:59,463 --> 00:35:59,673
Wow.

1059
00:35:59,678 --> 00:36:02,463
And that's, that has happened
in two different classes.

1060
00:36:02,523 --> 00:36:03,603
Holy shit.

1061
00:36:03,753 --> 00:36:04,293
Wow.

1062
00:36:04,863 --> 00:36:05,673
That's interesting.

1063
00:36:05,673 --> 00:36:06,183
That is

1064
00:36:06,368 --> 00:36:06,528
interesting.

1065
00:36:06,533 --> 00:36:06,873
Why?

1066
00:36:07,563 --> 00:36:12,173
It's like, why, like, is it they weren't
ready to hear that they were just,

1067
00:36:12,293 --> 00:36:15,323
or it was a, a reality that, that
maybe they weren't ready for?

1068
00:36:15,323 --> 00:36:15,593
I don't trust

1069
00:36:15,593 --> 00:36:16,073
my partner

1070
00:36:16,823 --> 00:36:18,903
that that's, that's how I read it mm-hmm.

1071
00:36:18,903 --> 00:36:20,153
Is that I don't trust my partner.

1072
00:36:20,653 --> 00:36:20,943
Yeah.

1073
00:36:20,943 --> 00:36:22,258
Realize no point in finishing

1074
00:36:22,258 --> 00:36:22,418
this

1075
00:36:22,418 --> 00:36:22,518
up, I realize

1076
00:36:22,653 --> 00:36:28,773
that what I'm about to do is gonna,
could possibly get me arrested.

1077
00:36:29,273 --> 00:36:29,753
Possibly.

1078
00:36:30,253 --> 00:36:32,113
Now if you, if the restraints are edible.

1079
00:36:32,803 --> 00:36:34,873
I wonder if that still holds up.

1080
00:36:35,413 --> 00:36:36,013
You know what I mean?

1081
00:36:36,343 --> 00:36:36,913
Yeah.

1082
00:36:36,913 --> 00:36:37,903
I mean, it's worth it.

1083
00:36:38,893 --> 00:36:39,013
I mean,

1084
00:36:39,013 --> 00:36:40,933
if we tie 'em up with, get
a bunch of Red vines Yeah.

1085
00:36:40,933 --> 00:36:44,293
A bunch of Twizzlers and, and
Red Vines, and we tie you up and

1086
00:36:44,293 --> 00:36:45,288
you can still eat your way out.

1087
00:36:45,398 --> 00:36:45,768
It's okay.

1088
00:36:45,768 --> 00:36:45,778
Don't

1089
00:36:46,033 --> 00:36:47,023
destroy the evidence.

1090
00:36:47,023 --> 00:36:48,328
That's, you

1091
00:36:48,328 --> 00:36:48,888
can't prove,

1092
00:36:49,388 --> 00:36:49,478
yeah.

1093
00:36:49,478 --> 00:36:50,618
You can't prove that it was me.

1094
00:36:51,118 --> 00:36:51,478
Yeah.

1095
00:36:51,478 --> 00:36:53,393
But no, that it is, it is.

1096
00:36:53,573 --> 00:36:58,283
I, in my workshop, I literally tell
people what I'm about to teach you

1097
00:36:58,823 --> 00:37:01,613
is illegal in the state of Texas.

1098
00:37:01,643 --> 00:37:01,943
Okay.

1099
00:37:02,633 --> 00:37:05,243
In the state of Texas, it is illegal.

1100
00:37:05,273 --> 00:37:09,593
If somebody comes back and
says that you kidnap me.

1101
00:37:10,178 --> 00:37:12,248
And held me hostage.

1102
00:37:12,308 --> 00:37:12,638
Yeah,

1103
00:37:13,138 --> 00:37:18,108
Those is, the police have to act
and your only proof is text messages

1104
00:37:18,108 --> 00:37:20,298
that say no, they consented to it.

1105
00:37:20,798 --> 00:37:24,128
Texas law says even wit consent.

1106
00:37:24,478 --> 00:37:25,408
That's crazy.

1107
00:37:25,768 --> 00:37:26,488
That is crazy.

1108
00:37:26,968 --> 00:37:27,958
That is nuts.

1109
00:37:28,258 --> 00:37:32,233
Now, I, I know that your, your workshops
you said that you guys actually like

1110
00:37:32,293 --> 00:37:33,703
give snacks and stuff like that.

1111
00:37:34,363 --> 00:37:35,203
Is that right?

1112
00:37:35,203 --> 00:37:35,683
Did I hear that?

1113
00:37:35,683 --> 00:37:36,133
I'm sorry.

1114
00:37:36,283 --> 00:37:38,593
Anytime somebody mentions
snacks, my ears perk up.

1115
00:37:38,593 --> 00:37:41,233
It really doesn't matter
what the setting is, so,

1116
00:37:41,248 --> 00:37:42,533
so, I wanna know the setting.

1117
00:37:42,893 --> 00:37:43,598
Yeah, I, I'd love to

1118
00:37:43,793 --> 00:37:43,853
know

1119
00:37:43,853 --> 00:37:43,973
about,

1120
00:37:43,973 --> 00:37:47,633
so they come in, they've already
taken care of a class fee, the

1121
00:37:47,633 --> 00:37:51,983
fee, whatever, like you have your
PowerPoint with all your memes.

1122
00:37:51,988 --> 00:37:52,388
Mm-hmm.

1123
00:37:52,518 --> 00:37:52,868
Right?

1124
00:37:53,423 --> 00:37:54,443
Your flashlight.

1125
00:37:54,943 --> 00:37:55,453
Your.

1126
00:37:56,428 --> 00:37:57,028
What was his name?

1127
00:37:57,298 --> 00:37:57,748
Justin.

1128
00:37:57,808 --> 00:37:58,408
Justin.

1129
00:37:58,828 --> 00:37:59,278
Justin.

1130
00:37:59,278 --> 00:38:00,688
Is there demo dick?

1131
00:38:00,688 --> 00:38:00,723
Yeah, demo dick.

1132
00:38:00,728 --> 00:38:01,318
Demo dick.

1133
00:38:01,618 --> 00:38:03,058
And you have snacks.

1134
00:38:03,558 --> 00:38:09,498
Yeah, so we'll have, so I tailor
my snacks depending on the class.

1135
00:38:09,998 --> 00:38:13,778
So if it's fellatio, it's a lot of
phallic stuff like popsicles and bananas

1136
00:38:13,778 --> 00:38:14,498
and things like that.

1137
00:38:15,158 --> 00:38:16,088
She would your smartness.

1138
00:38:16,148 --> 00:38:16,358
Oh,

1139
00:38:16,358 --> 00:38:17,288
that's the way I would do it.

1140
00:38:17,788 --> 00:38:18,008
So.

1141
00:38:18,508 --> 00:38:21,118
I'm not doing cheese and
crackers at that workshop.

1142
00:38:21,238 --> 00:38:21,358
Damn.

1143
00:38:21,508 --> 00:38:24,538
That workshop is going to be strawberries.

1144
00:38:25,038 --> 00:38:25,458
Mm. Chocolate.

1145
00:38:25,558 --> 00:38:31,118
If I'm going to do like a cracker or
a snack, it's going to be like like

1146
00:38:31,208 --> 00:38:36,788
garlic and herb or something that
literally makes your mouth water.

1147
00:38:36,878 --> 00:38:37,208
Mm-hmm.

1148
00:38:37,493 --> 00:38:39,968
Not something that'll dry
your mouth out like saltines.

1149
00:38:40,118 --> 00:38:40,178
Yeah.

1150
00:38:40,838 --> 00:38:42,308
Because too many souls and forget it.

1151
00:38:42,308 --> 00:38:43,028
You can't even whistle.

1152
00:38:43,028 --> 00:38:43,188
You just

1153
00:38:43,263 --> 00:38:43,653
pretzels

1154
00:38:43,653 --> 00:38:44,948
spitting out a bunch of Yeah.

1155
00:38:44,968 --> 00:38:45,388
Petzel.

1156
00:38:45,488 --> 00:38:45,988
That's right.

1157
00:38:46,803 --> 00:38:46,983
Make

1158
00:38:46,983 --> 00:38:47,043
me

1159
00:38:47,043 --> 00:38:47,193
thirsty.

1160
00:38:47,643 --> 00:38:50,108
We don't do pretzels at Okay.

1161
00:38:50,848 --> 00:38:54,928
For, uh, like for the BDSM workshop,
since we're talking about a lot of

1162
00:38:54,928 --> 00:38:59,348
body work I usually try to go for
something that's gonna have more protein.

1163
00:38:59,708 --> 00:38:59,918
Mm-hmm.

1164
00:38:59,918 --> 00:39:02,078
Something that's gonna build
up your muscles, something else

1165
00:39:02,958 --> 00:39:05,478
going to make you a bit stronger.

1166
00:39:05,478 --> 00:39:05,488
Mm-hmm.

1167
00:39:05,488 --> 00:39:08,178
Either to give it or take it.

1168
00:39:08,988 --> 00:39:10,833
Rotisserie chickens, Turkey eggs

1169
00:39:11,333 --> 00:39:12,863
get like a couple of chicken legs.

1170
00:39:13,363 --> 00:39:13,693
Er going,

1171
00:39:14,193 --> 00:39:14,313
we

1172
00:39:14,313 --> 00:39:15,183
haven't had breakfast.

1173
00:39:15,393 --> 00:39:15,603
Yeah.

1174
00:39:15,603 --> 00:39:16,023
Sorry.

1175
00:39:16,023 --> 00:39:17,103
We're talking a lot of food here.

1176
00:39:17,703 --> 00:39:18,123
Sorry.

1177
00:39:18,623 --> 00:39:20,213
It's right next to the, uh, demo dick.

1178
00:39:20,713 --> 00:39:21,883
You gotta ask Justin for it.

1179
00:39:22,383 --> 00:39:25,323
Well, and but you know, it's, it's
those kind of details that are,

1180
00:39:25,323 --> 00:39:27,843
are really, you know, that, that
we were kind of curious about.

1181
00:39:27,873 --> 00:39:28,083
Yeah.

1182
00:39:28,118 --> 00:39:28,398
Yeah.

1183
00:39:28,503 --> 00:39:35,088
It so I have been running the
workshops here for 15 years.

1184
00:39:35,238 --> 00:39:35,568
Wow.

1185
00:39:35,598 --> 00:39:38,108
I've been teaching for 12 years.

1186
00:39:38,108 --> 00:39:38,228
Mm-hmm.

1187
00:39:38,783 --> 00:39:38,903
Okay.

1188
00:39:39,318 --> 00:39:45,088
And even just running the workshops as a
facilitator for other educators, I want

1189
00:39:45,088 --> 00:39:48,268
it to be the best experience possible.

1190
00:39:48,273 --> 00:39:48,403
Mm-hmm.

1191
00:39:48,483 --> 00:39:48,523
Sure.

1192
00:39:49,378 --> 00:39:50,578
And so.

1193
00:39:51,233 --> 00:39:54,323
Even when Charlotte was teaching
the blowjob class before me

1194
00:39:54,473 --> 00:39:55,463
That was a deal.

1195
00:39:55,463 --> 00:40:00,553
It was like, I'm the one that's gonna
be setting up the class and whatnot.

1196
00:40:00,793 --> 00:40:02,503
Charlotte doesn't know what snacks.

1197
00:40:03,013 --> 00:40:03,073
Yeah.

1198
00:40:03,928 --> 00:40:06,283
She like, she doesn't work here.

1199
00:40:06,283 --> 00:40:07,483
She is a person.

1200
00:40:07,483 --> 00:40:09,613
Like she's out there in the world.

1201
00:40:09,613 --> 00:40:10,963
She's coming here to teach a class.

1202
00:40:11,893 --> 00:40:17,923
And so that's kind of where it started
was with Charla was uh, 'cause before

1203
00:40:17,923 --> 00:40:19,663
it was just like generic, like cheap.

1204
00:40:20,163 --> 00:40:20,403
Yeah.

1205
00:40:20,403 --> 00:40:20,493
Like,

1206
00:40:20,823 --> 00:40:23,083
yeah, just get, just get snacks in here.

1207
00:40:23,083 --> 00:40:25,833
And it was like cheese
crackers and some grapes.

1208
00:40:26,333 --> 00:40:27,593
We always have wine.

1209
00:40:27,923 --> 00:40:28,463
Alright.

1210
00:40:28,553 --> 00:40:29,513
Always have wine.

1211
00:40:29,603 --> 00:40:30,053
There you go.

1212
00:40:30,053 --> 00:40:30,443
Okay.

1213
00:40:30,623 --> 00:40:32,183
And your classes are an hour and a half?

1214
00:40:32,603 --> 00:40:32,723
Yeah.

1215
00:40:33,113 --> 00:40:33,473
All right.

1216
00:40:33,473 --> 00:40:34,823
Now there is, I, I know that.

1217
00:40:35,528 --> 00:40:38,978
I know a lot of people that would
have this question because our

1218
00:40:38,978 --> 00:40:42,488
groups, people who listen to us,
oftentimes they go to a lot of these

1219
00:40:42,488 --> 00:40:44,348
lifestyle clubs and they're BYOB.

1220
00:40:45,248 --> 00:40:49,808
Is there any, like, are, is it
allowed to bring maybe something

1221
00:40:49,808 --> 00:40:53,078
that they want to drink or can they
bring their own snacks as well?

1222
00:40:53,078 --> 00:40:54,278
Is that, is that allowed?

1223
00:40:54,778 --> 00:40:57,928
You can bring anything
that's non-alcoholic.

1224
00:40:58,348 --> 00:40:58,738
Okay.

1225
00:40:59,418 --> 00:41:03,438
We are not TABC certified.

1226
00:41:03,438 --> 00:41:03,528
Mm-hmm.

1227
00:41:03,703 --> 00:41:03,823
Gotcha.

1228
00:41:04,323 --> 00:41:08,278
As a business uhhuh, I am
T-B-A-T-A-B-C certified because

1229
00:41:08,278 --> 00:41:10,018
of my life in Austin and mm-hmm.

1230
00:41:10,313 --> 00:41:17,008
Being around, so I am TABC certified
and so I can check your ID and

1231
00:41:17,068 --> 00:41:18,778
allow you to drink the wine.

1232
00:41:19,048 --> 00:41:19,378
Gotcha.

1233
00:41:19,878 --> 00:41:20,628
You better bring one.

1234
00:41:20,973 --> 00:41:24,558
I I, I tend to travel with an emergency
rotisserie chicken from time to time.

1235
00:41:24,588 --> 00:41:25,368
You just never know.

1236
00:41:25,868 --> 00:41:26,978
It might be a little awkward.

1237
00:41:27,248 --> 00:41:30,548
We're sitting here in a workshop
of 25 people and, and one

1238
00:41:30,548 --> 00:41:31,928
person just like bust out.

1239
00:41:32,048 --> 00:41:32,348
Yes.

1240
00:41:32,348 --> 00:41:33,098
A cheeseburger.

1241
00:41:33,458 --> 00:41:34,778
That might be a little awkward.

1242
00:41:34,838 --> 00:41:34,898
Yeah.

1243
00:41:35,398 --> 00:41:38,128
But our only rule is no outside alcohol.

1244
00:41:38,698 --> 00:41:38,878
I,

1245
00:41:38,878 --> 00:41:39,508
everything else,

1246
00:41:39,538 --> 00:41:41,068
I feel like that's a fair rule.

1247
00:41:41,218 --> 00:41:42,508
Yeah, that's a fair rule.

1248
00:41:42,688 --> 00:41:45,033
Not to mention there's a bar
across the street, so if you

1249
00:41:45,033 --> 00:41:46,113
really, really, there's quick

1250
00:41:46,113 --> 00:41:46,273
bars.

1251
00:41:46,903 --> 00:41:47,193
Yeah.

1252
00:41:47,733 --> 00:41:50,728
If you really absolutely have to,
you can show up early, have a few

1253
00:41:50,728 --> 00:41:51,688
drinks and then come on in and

1254
00:41:52,188 --> 00:41:52,698
Very true.

1255
00:41:52,703 --> 00:41:52,913
Yeah.

1256
00:41:53,358 --> 00:41:53,568
Yeah.

1257
00:41:54,288 --> 00:41:55,098
I think it works.

1258
00:41:55,598 --> 00:42:02,008
So one of my one of my jokes during the
workshop half joke is, uh, when it's break

1259
00:42:02,008 --> 00:42:07,488
time 'cause we don't just sit here for 90
minutes of me talking kind continuously.

1260
00:42:07,488 --> 00:42:07,578
Right.

1261
00:42:08,158 --> 00:42:09,568
We only have one bathroom.

1262
00:42:10,318 --> 00:42:10,468
Sorry.

1263
00:42:10,558 --> 00:42:10,588
Uh,

1264
00:42:11,088 --> 00:42:17,478
if there's a line, I always say there's
a bar of one and a gas station on

1265
00:42:17,478 --> 00:42:18,978
the other and the bar is cleaner.

1266
00:42:19,478 --> 00:42:19,928
There you go.

1267
00:42:20,438 --> 00:42:22,778
But if you really have to go, I
mean, you'll go wherever you got to.

1268
00:42:22,778 --> 00:42:23,078
Yeah.

1269
00:42:23,323 --> 00:42:23,403
Yeah.

1270
00:42:24,003 --> 00:42:25,418
I mean, it is what it is, right?

1271
00:42:25,568 --> 00:42:25,748
Yeah.

1272
00:42:26,248 --> 00:42:30,718
Now, what is it that you'd like for
anybody who's interested in signing up

1273
00:42:30,778 --> 00:42:35,538
beginners what would you like them to know
before attending one of your workshops?

1274
00:42:35,868 --> 00:42:39,378
Like I is there anything that they need
to prepare themselves for beforehand?

1275
00:42:40,338 --> 00:42:40,818
Even if it.

1276
00:42:41,328 --> 00:42:44,358
Not my workshop or any of our workshops.

1277
00:42:44,388 --> 00:42:44,478
Mm-hmm.

1278
00:42:45,108 --> 00:42:51,188
One thing you have to be prepared for
is we are going to be frank and honest.

1279
00:42:51,193 --> 00:42:51,553
Mm-hmm.

1280
00:42:52,053 --> 00:42:58,288
If you have any delusions, again, like
the folks who got up and walked out.

1281
00:42:58,318 --> 00:42:58,528
Yeah.

1282
00:42:58,638 --> 00:43:01,968
You gotta, you have to leave
everything at the door.

1283
00:43:02,848 --> 00:43:07,668
Because you are going to
see explicit pictures.

1284
00:43:07,673 --> 00:43:07,923
Right.

1285
00:43:08,178 --> 00:43:08,718
Right.

1286
00:43:08,718 --> 00:43:08,928
Okay.

1287
00:43:09,243 --> 00:43:12,408
I have, I have a rolling
PowerPoint going behind me.

1288
00:43:12,413 --> 00:43:12,483
Mm-hmm.

1289
00:43:12,568 --> 00:43:14,928
You are going to see explicit images.

1290
00:43:14,988 --> 00:43:15,348
Mm-hmm.

1291
00:43:15,848 --> 00:43:19,708
Uh, if you are a guy, Hey, you know what?

1292
00:43:20,128 --> 00:43:23,488
You might see two dudes
going down on each other.

1293
00:43:23,938 --> 00:43:24,028
Mm-hmm.

1294
00:43:24,268 --> 00:43:24,278
Yeah.

1295
00:43:25,018 --> 00:43:25,378
Why?

1296
00:43:25,498 --> 00:43:26,488
Because it's about.

1297
00:43:27,103 --> 00:43:27,883
Fellatio.

1298
00:43:27,973 --> 00:43:28,273
Yeah.

1299
00:43:28,363 --> 00:43:30,073
And if that's the kind of
thing that bothers you, then

1300
00:43:30,073 --> 00:43:31,333
this is not the spot for you.

1301
00:43:31,573 --> 00:43:32,053
Exactly.

1302
00:43:32,053 --> 00:43:32,353
Yeah.

1303
00:43:32,913 --> 00:43:39,423
If it's one of our rote classes,
we explicitly put it right there in

1304
00:43:39,423 --> 00:43:46,503
bold on our website, on the flyers,
on the, uh, on our Chronicle ads.

1305
00:43:47,003 --> 00:43:48,413
Wear comfortable clothing.

1306
00:43:48,623 --> 00:43:48,803
Mm-hmm.

1307
00:43:49,103 --> 00:43:53,603
Because it, this is a rope cla,
like you can't, I mean, you can

1308
00:43:53,603 --> 00:43:54,833
just do a slideshow on ropes.

1309
00:43:54,863 --> 00:43:55,133
Yeah.

1310
00:43:56,093 --> 00:43:56,363
Yeah.

1311
00:43:56,363 --> 00:43:57,743
What is anyone gonna get at?

1312
00:43:57,833 --> 00:43:58,313
Yeah.

1313
00:43:58,813 --> 00:44:05,913
So on our rope classes, like no, you will
be tying or be tied by somebody, bring a

1314
00:44:05,913 --> 00:44:08,013
partner that's a great partner CL class.

1315
00:44:08,583 --> 00:44:13,053
So whatever whatever hangups or imaginary.

1316
00:44:13,893 --> 00:44:14,703
I say imaginary.

1317
00:44:15,093 --> 00:44:19,323
Whatever you think in your
mind that might get you stuck.

1318
00:44:19,823 --> 00:44:21,023
You gotta leave that at the door.

1319
00:44:21,263 --> 00:44:21,593
I gotcha.

1320
00:44:21,623 --> 00:44:21,653
Okay.

1321
00:44:21,653 --> 00:44:23,513
Because we don't fool our punches here.

1322
00:44:24,013 --> 00:44:25,993
We're gonna, we're gonna teach you.

1323
00:44:26,248 --> 00:44:26,538
Yeah.

1324
00:44:26,638 --> 00:44:27,618
And it's a safe space.

1325
00:44:28,078 --> 00:44:29,138
100% space.

1326
00:44:29,138 --> 00:44:29,578
Hundred percent.

1327
00:44:29,578 --> 00:44:29,978
Mm-hmm.

1328
00:44:30,088 --> 00:44:30,658
Safe space.

1329
00:44:31,158 --> 00:44:33,598
We've been, uh, constantly.

1330
00:44:34,098 --> 00:44:38,103
No, I'm just trying to like, not
sound like offensive or whatnot.

1331
00:44:38,193 --> 00:44:38,253
Yeah.

1332
00:44:38,253 --> 00:44:41,823
It's really difficult trying,
like doing advertising online.

1333
00:44:41,853 --> 00:44:41,883
Oh

1334
00:44:42,078 --> 00:44:42,198
yeah.

1335
00:44:42,753 --> 00:44:42,933
Yeah.

1336
00:44:42,933 --> 00:44:44,853
You have to hard, you
have to really walk the

1337
00:44:44,853 --> 00:44:45,183
line.

1338
00:44:45,188 --> 00:44:45,318
Yeah.

1339
00:44:45,518 --> 00:44:50,453
I, yeah, I, my account has been
blocked from Facebook so many times.

1340
00:44:50,953 --> 00:44:53,898
But we do, we sell body affirming gear.

1341
00:44:54,178 --> 00:44:55,288
We also,

1342
00:44:55,388 --> 00:44:55,538
yeah.

1343
00:44:55,713 --> 00:44:56,133
That's

1344
00:44:56,133 --> 00:44:56,173
awesome.

1345
00:44:56,198 --> 00:44:59,318
You walk in here wearing skirt
and heels and you're asking

1346
00:44:59,318 --> 00:45:00,668
about this, that, and the other.

1347
00:45:01,208 --> 00:45:03,278
I'm gonna talk to you, like
I talk to everybody else.

1348
00:45:03,278 --> 00:45:04,268
Nobody's gonna bat an eye.

1349
00:45:04,418 --> 00:45:04,598
Nope.

1350
00:45:05,098 --> 00:45:05,308
Yeah.

1351
00:45:05,308 --> 00:45:10,348
Well, you know, we're, we're excited
to, to talk about these workshops that

1352
00:45:10,348 --> 00:45:13,138
you have here because you know, as
we said at the beginning of the show,

1353
00:45:13,378 --> 00:45:17,938
we have a workshop that we're gonna
be doing here, uh, swingers 1 0 1.

1354
00:45:18,388 --> 00:45:22,378
A lot of our listeners, a lot
of newer people, a lot of stuff

1355
00:45:22,488 --> 00:45:23,388
people that are considering.

1356
00:45:23,888 --> 00:45:28,608
We will be here from 6:00 PM to
8:00 PM doing the swingers 1 0 1.

1357
00:45:28,818 --> 00:45:28,908
Mm-hmm.

1358
00:45:29,328 --> 00:45:29,838
Workshop.

1359
00:45:29,958 --> 00:45:30,768
And that should, should be a lot of

1360
00:45:30,768 --> 00:45:30,858
fun.

1361
00:45:30,858 --> 00:45:31,848
We're gonna come to all the workshops.

1362
00:45:31,863 --> 00:45:32,928
That should be a lot of fun.

1363
00:45:33,258 --> 00:45:33,498
Yeah.

1364
00:45:33,768 --> 00:45:35,148
I'm gonna come to all the workshops.

1365
00:45:36,048 --> 00:45:39,648
I'm sure you're gonna find 'em all
our events, our little event tech.

1366
00:45:39,678 --> 00:45:40,098
Oh yeah.

1367
00:45:40,098 --> 00:45:40,578
No, no, no.

1368
00:45:40,578 --> 00:45:41,568
We're gonna, we're gonna put it out.

1369
00:45:41,568 --> 00:45:41,718
Now.

1370
00:45:41,718 --> 00:45:46,068
I, I, I, and I don't know if I, if I
had asked you this yet or not, but I

1371
00:45:46,068 --> 00:45:50,868
know the workshops are, are here in
person now, is there, is there at all

1372
00:45:50,868 --> 00:45:55,158
like hybrid where you can do Zoom and
in person, or is it strictly in person,

1373
00:45:55,158 --> 00:45:58,908
or is that anything that you, you, I'm
sure I, I'm gonna get that question.

1374
00:45:59,808 --> 00:46:00,468
Fortunately.

1375
00:46:00,468 --> 00:46:01,128
No.

1376
00:46:01,248 --> 00:46:04,188
For y'all's workshop, if y'all
wanna set up a camera mm-hmm.

1377
00:46:04,688 --> 00:46:08,568
Since y'all also have the podcast,
they're all, and you'll, you have

1378
00:46:08,568 --> 00:46:11,328
an online presence that's up to you.

1379
00:46:11,378 --> 00:46:13,418
But generally, no.

1380
00:46:13,718 --> 00:46:13,808
Okay.

1381
00:46:14,018 --> 00:46:19,508
Uh, again, like I said, we tried
it and it was like I said, about

1382
00:46:19,508 --> 00:46:22,658
two minutes in before I had to
start screaming and mute your mic.

1383
00:46:23,198 --> 00:46:23,228
Okay.

1384
00:46:23,263 --> 00:46:23,553
Yeah.

1385
00:46:23,553 --> 00:46:23,563
Okay.

1386
00:46:23,978 --> 00:46:27,548
So that's why we abandoned the online.

1387
00:46:27,608 --> 00:46:27,938
Yeah,

1388
00:46:28,808 --> 00:46:29,138
that makes

1389
00:46:29,138 --> 00:46:29,588
sense.

1390
00:46:29,588 --> 00:46:30,248
That makes sense.

1391
00:46:30,248 --> 00:46:30,428
Yeah.

1392
00:46:30,728 --> 00:46:35,498
It is hard because I mean, I have Zoom
meetings and I have everybody focused.

1393
00:46:35,858 --> 00:46:38,198
But we're gonna talk more about
that because there are ways

1394
00:46:38,198 --> 00:46:42,218
that you can set that up and not
have anybody have a microphone.

1395
00:46:42,548 --> 00:46:42,878
Yeah.

1396
00:46:42,968 --> 00:46:43,178
But

1397
00:46:43,178 --> 00:46:43,568
we got

1398
00:46:43,568 --> 00:46:43,628
you.

1399
00:46:43,628 --> 00:46:47,348
And so even for, for our, you know,
for our swingers 1 0 1, what we

1400
00:46:47,348 --> 00:46:49,178
may do is we may just record it.

1401
00:46:49,538 --> 00:46:49,748
Yeah.

1402
00:46:49,773 --> 00:46:52,838
Um, and then put it out
for our Patreon community.

1403
00:46:53,048 --> 00:46:53,228
Yeah,

1404
00:46:53,228 --> 00:46:53,238
yeah.

1405
00:46:53,238 --> 00:46:54,353
And our OnlyFans community.

1406
00:46:54,458 --> 00:46:54,758
Yeah.

1407
00:46:54,858 --> 00:46:55,288
Exactly.

1408
00:46:55,308 --> 00:46:57,343
Uh, so we, we may make
that available to them.

1409
00:46:57,793 --> 00:46:58,663
Uh, I'm

1410
00:46:58,663 --> 00:46:59,113
excited

1411
00:46:59,323 --> 00:47:00,853
just as a kind of a, hey, yeah.

1412
00:47:00,853 --> 00:47:01,723
This is available.

1413
00:47:01,723 --> 00:47:04,273
We have listeners all over that
are outside of this region,

1414
00:47:04,273 --> 00:47:07,003
so it would be nice to be able
to, to offer that to others.

1415
00:47:07,123 --> 00:47:08,023
So that'd be pretty cool.

1416
00:47:08,083 --> 00:47:08,173
Yeah.

1417
00:47:08,178 --> 00:47:08,198
Yeah.

1418
00:47:08,533 --> 00:47:09,823
I have no problem with that.

1419
00:47:09,933 --> 00:47:12,773
The only rule is only you on camera.

1420
00:47:13,273 --> 00:47:13,543
Yes.

1421
00:47:13,543 --> 00:47:13,553
Mm-hmm.

1422
00:47:13,553 --> 00:47:13,633
Mm-hmm.

1423
00:47:13,873 --> 00:47:13,963
Yes.

1424
00:47:13,963 --> 00:47:15,133
No, no audience.

1425
00:47:15,133 --> 00:47:15,193
Yeah,

1426
00:47:15,293 --> 00:47:15,503
Yeah.

1427
00:47:15,503 --> 00:47:15,923
Of course.

1428
00:47:15,923 --> 00:47:17,453
Well, you know, that's just good.

1429
00:47:17,453 --> 00:47:21,413
Uh, that's just a good rule all around
when it comes to the swingers lifestyle.

1430
00:47:21,413 --> 00:47:23,633
I think There's so many that are discreet

1431
00:47:23,723 --> 00:47:23,783
Yeah.

1432
00:47:24,173 --> 00:47:24,923
About that.

1433
00:47:24,923 --> 00:47:28,163
And it's like, you cannot, and that's
something that once we started doing

1434
00:47:28,163 --> 00:47:30,803
content creation and we started
doing the podcast and stuff, that's

1435
00:47:30,803 --> 00:47:32,543
where we really, really learned.

1436
00:47:33,143 --> 00:47:34,823
Not a lot of people like to be on camera.

1437
00:47:34,923 --> 00:47:37,353
Not a lot of people loan their
voices out and that sort of thing.

1438
00:47:37,353 --> 00:47:39,123
Like they really, really are discreet.

1439
00:47:39,123 --> 00:47:39,433
So that's, yeah.

1440
00:47:39,433 --> 00:47:40,293
When we do our lives,

1441
00:47:40,293 --> 00:47:40,623
yeah.

1442
00:47:40,628 --> 00:47:40,938
It's just us.

1443
00:47:41,673 --> 00:47:42,033
Yeah.

1444
00:47:42,153 --> 00:47:46,053
Whenever we have outside educators,
I like to snap a few pictures

1445
00:47:46,053 --> 00:47:47,553
for like Instagram and whatnot.

1446
00:47:48,303 --> 00:47:49,563
It's always from the back.

1447
00:47:50,063 --> 00:47:50,393
I mean,

1448
00:47:50,393 --> 00:47:50,723
that's, yeah.

1449
00:47:51,038 --> 00:47:55,563
And I let everybody know and not to
like interrupt the class, but I, yeah.

1450
00:47:55,563 --> 00:47:56,363
I let everybody know.

1451
00:47:56,363 --> 00:48:00,743
It's like, Hey, I'm going
to be taking a few pictures.

1452
00:48:00,743 --> 00:48:04,193
'cause sometimes they really are
doing like, something interesting,

1453
00:48:05,003 --> 00:48:06,503
especially for like the body ones where,

1454
00:48:07,223 --> 00:48:07,523
right.

1455
00:48:07,853 --> 00:48:12,443
Uh, Melissa did just did a
glass and it was interesting.

1456
00:48:12,943 --> 00:48:13,933
He was under a sheet.

1457
00:48:14,353 --> 00:48:15,793
You couldn't see anything.

1458
00:48:16,293 --> 00:48:19,323
But I liked the image and I
wanted to take a picture of it.

1459
00:48:19,328 --> 00:48:22,053
And so I was just like,
Melissa, hold up real quick.

1460
00:48:22,053 --> 00:48:23,283
I just wanna take a picture.

1461
00:48:23,703 --> 00:48:26,913
Everybody just everybody
face forward, look full.

1462
00:48:27,093 --> 00:48:30,003
Don't like, if you have a very distinctive

1463
00:48:30,303 --> 00:48:30,933
Yeah.

1464
00:48:30,933 --> 00:48:33,363
Like if you have like
a flaming red mohawk.

1465
00:48:33,363 --> 00:48:33,423
Yeah.

1466
00:48:33,923 --> 00:48:34,493
I'm sorry.

1467
00:48:35,108 --> 00:48:36,233
I, I, I can't anything move

1468
00:48:36,233 --> 00:48:36,563
out on the

1469
00:48:36,563 --> 00:48:37,068
way, anything about

1470
00:48:37,568 --> 00:48:37,808
Yeah.

1471
00:48:38,048 --> 00:48:38,648
But Yeah.

1472
00:48:39,008 --> 00:48:40,568
White lady with brown hair.

1473
00:48:40,838 --> 00:48:41,078
Yeah.

1474
00:48:41,578 --> 00:48:43,588
Chances are you're not gonna be seen.

1475
00:48:43,678 --> 00:48:44,068
Yeah.

1476
00:48:44,568 --> 00:48:44,858
Yeah.

1477
00:48:45,383 --> 00:48:50,573
Well, you know, as, uh, as we start
coming to a wrap, I always like to, uh,

1478
00:48:50,603 --> 00:48:51,923
have a little fun with our guests here.

1479
00:48:51,923 --> 00:48:52,973
I have a few questions.

1480
00:48:53,333 --> 00:48:57,353
What is the biggest misconception that
people have walking in on average?

1481
00:48:57,853 --> 00:48:59,713
About the store or about,

1482
00:48:59,713 --> 00:49:01,093
about the workshops, I'd say

1483
00:49:01,123 --> 00:49:01,393
Okay.

1484
00:49:01,393 --> 00:49:01,963
The workshop.

1485
00:49:02,133 --> 00:49:02,533
Yeah.

1486
00:49:03,033 --> 00:49:04,113
About our workshops.

1487
00:49:04,533 --> 00:49:05,343
I would say, yeah.

1488
00:49:05,523 --> 00:49:11,983
The biggest misconception is that
it's gonna be, I try to keep it

1489
00:49:11,983 --> 00:49:15,863
entertaining, but a lot of people
come in thinking like he, he ha, pee

1490
00:49:16,363 --> 00:49:18,713
that kind of thing where we're like.

1491
00:49:19,213 --> 00:49:19,513
No.

1492
00:49:19,573 --> 00:49:19,993
All right.

1493
00:49:20,053 --> 00:49:22,753
Grab your rope and you're
gonna pull it to three feet.

1494
00:49:23,623 --> 00:49:29,123
Or if you're going to do anal, you
have to make sure to express the piece.

1495
00:49:29,333 --> 00:49:31,853
Uh, the prostate also the
prostate and the g bar.

1496
00:49:31,853 --> 00:49:32,363
The same thing.

1497
00:49:33,288 --> 00:49:33,578
Okay.

1498
00:49:33,833 --> 00:49:35,183
I didn't need to know all of that.

1499
00:49:35,363 --> 00:49:35,693
No,

1500
00:49:35,783 --> 00:49:36,113
you did.

1501
00:49:36,203 --> 00:49:36,593
You did actually.

1502
00:49:36,593 --> 00:49:36,893
Yeah.

1503
00:49:37,463 --> 00:49:38,753
This is why you came to this work.

1504
00:49:38,753 --> 00:49:39,593
Be an adult.

1505
00:49:39,703 --> 00:49:39,923
Yeah.

1506
00:49:39,923 --> 00:49:40,703
Be an adult.

1507
00:49:41,033 --> 00:49:41,333
Yeah.

1508
00:49:41,338 --> 00:49:41,498
Yeah.

1509
00:49:42,053 --> 00:49:42,653
So yeah.

1510
00:49:42,653 --> 00:49:43,193
Be an adult.

1511
00:49:43,193 --> 00:49:47,723
The biggest misconception are people who
don't, don't expect an adult conversation.

1512
00:49:47,783 --> 00:49:47,963
Okay.

1513
00:49:47,963 --> 00:49:48,173
An adult.

1514
00:49:48,263 --> 00:49:48,533
Yeah.

1515
00:49:48,788 --> 00:49:51,023
Which is, which is kind of strange.

1516
00:49:51,443 --> 00:49:51,623
Yeah.

1517
00:49:51,653 --> 00:49:52,553
Kind of strange.

1518
00:49:52,553 --> 00:49:54,443
But I guess, you know,
it's, it's a diverse crowd.

1519
00:49:54,443 --> 00:49:55,703
What are you gonna do now?

1520
00:49:55,973 --> 00:49:59,153
What is one piece of advice that
you'd give for nervous beginners

1521
00:49:59,153 --> 00:50:00,713
coming into your workshops?

1522
00:50:01,213 --> 00:50:03,703
If you're nervous you
can always talk to me.

1523
00:50:03,913 --> 00:50:05,773
I'm here for every single workshop.

1524
00:50:05,863 --> 00:50:06,103
Mm-hmm.

1525
00:50:06,853 --> 00:50:10,543
But also talk to the
other people who are here.

1526
00:50:10,543 --> 00:50:14,623
Like, and it doesn't have to be
about, so what got you into butt?

1527
00:50:15,123 --> 00:50:16,583
You could literally just,

1528
00:50:17,083 --> 00:50:18,673
first of all, the way
you said, that was great.

1529
00:50:18,823 --> 00:50:19,063
Awesome.

1530
00:50:19,063 --> 00:50:20,653
What got you into butt stuff?

1531
00:50:21,153 --> 00:50:22,623
Just saying hi.

1532
00:50:23,123 --> 00:50:25,028
Been in the store before.

1533
00:50:25,688 --> 00:50:29,288
Uh, it doesn't have to be
something directly sexual or

1534
00:50:29,288 --> 00:50:31,118
directly related to the workshop.

1535
00:50:31,228 --> 00:50:36,508
Literally just talk to, yeah, because all
of y'all are here for the same reason.

1536
00:50:36,508 --> 00:50:36,718
Make

1537
00:50:36,718 --> 00:50:37,408
some friends.

1538
00:50:37,828 --> 00:50:38,608
Make some friends.

1539
00:50:38,638 --> 00:50:38,908
Yeah.

1540
00:50:38,908 --> 00:50:39,298
It doesn't

1541
00:50:39,298 --> 00:50:39,748
get some tips.

1542
00:50:39,808 --> 00:50:42,898
It doesn't have to be awkward if
you don't wanna make it awkward.

1543
00:50:42,898 --> 00:50:43,468
Chip share.

1544
00:50:43,468 --> 00:50:44,128
Lots of tips.

1545
00:50:44,628 --> 00:50:49,668
And finally, what's one thing that
people never seem to expect, but always

1546
00:50:49,668 --> 00:50:51,228
seem to love by the time they leave?

1547
00:50:51,728 --> 00:50:54,098
I'm gonna say this is just
about the store in general.

1548
00:50:54,598 --> 00:50:55,648
Open and friendly.

1549
00:50:55,648 --> 00:50:56,068
We are,

1550
00:50:56,728 --> 00:50:57,328
oh man.

1551
00:50:57,988 --> 00:51:00,208
Y'all are the first time we met you guys.

1552
00:51:00,208 --> 00:51:01,138
Like we fell in love.

1553
00:51:01,138 --> 00:51:02,608
Like we, we were hugging you guys.

1554
00:51:02,608 --> 00:51:04,258
I felt like y'all had been a
part of the family for years.

1555
00:51:04,258 --> 00:51:04,348
I know.

1556
00:51:04,838 --> 00:51:05,108
Yeah,

1557
00:51:05,113 --> 00:51:05,613
yeah.

1558
00:51:05,613 --> 00:51:06,963
We are.

1559
00:51:07,023 --> 00:51:08,343
We are a safe space.

1560
00:51:08,343 --> 00:51:10,293
You can talk to us about anything.

1561
00:51:10,688 --> 00:51:14,888
One of my rules is if somebody can
ask me a question that I haven't

1562
00:51:14,888 --> 00:51:16,838
heard before, you'll get it for free.

1563
00:51:17,338 --> 00:51:18,358
Oh, that's interesting.

1564
00:51:18,358 --> 00:51:18,478
Duly

1565
00:51:18,478 --> 00:51:18,778
noted.

1566
00:51:19,408 --> 00:51:20,608
That's, that's a hard one though.

1567
00:51:20,608 --> 00:51:21,148
I'm sure,

1568
00:51:21,208 --> 00:51:22,258
honey, I've worked in the industry.

1569
00:51:22,758 --> 00:51:23,178
Turn it on.

1570
00:51:23,178 --> 00:51:23,928
Bring it on.

1571
00:51:24,428 --> 00:51:27,343
If I haven't heard it, I please.

1572
00:51:27,843 --> 00:51:29,583
My rule is everything's a thing.

1573
00:51:29,943 --> 00:51:30,273
Okay.

1574
00:51:30,813 --> 00:51:33,583
But yeah, so, I think that's
one of the things I was like,

1575
00:51:33,583 --> 00:51:34,958
yeah, I'll just, alright.

1576
00:51:34,958 --> 00:51:35,198
Yeah.

1577
00:51:35,263 --> 00:51:36,613
Welcome to Forbidden Fruit.

1578
00:51:36,943 --> 00:51:41,643
Now I just, I have one last question
I saw those frigging eggs the last

1579
00:51:41,643 --> 00:51:45,813
time that we were here and I have
been dying to know what the hell

1580
00:51:45,813 --> 00:51:47,313
do you do with those frigging eggs?

1581
00:51:47,373 --> 00:51:48,213
Where do those go?

1582
00:51:48,333 --> 00:51:50,793
So those are super stretchy.

1583
00:51:50,793 --> 00:51:51,783
Those are masturbator.

1584
00:51:51,873 --> 00:51:52,323
Okay.

1585
00:51:52,353 --> 00:51:59,963
Uh, they are super stretchy and so it
goes over the head and as you pull down

1586
00:52:00,463 --> 00:52:00,763
and get

1587
00:52:01,213 --> 00:52:01,783
out,

1588
00:52:02,283 --> 00:52:09,033
the thing is the text or the design on
the outside is the texture on the inside.

1589
00:52:09,513 --> 00:52:10,923
Oh wow.

1590
00:52:10,983 --> 00:52:11,013
Okay.

1591
00:52:11,013 --> 00:52:11,133
Gotcha.

1592
00:52:11,133 --> 00:52:11,763
Holy crap.

1593
00:52:11,763 --> 00:52:14,203
And so different textures and you.

1594
00:52:15,048 --> 00:52:16,398
Put some lube on there.

1595
00:52:16,818 --> 00:52:24,228
And so since most of the nerve endings are
going to be in the head it works great.

1596
00:52:24,338 --> 00:52:29,268
Those actually work really great with
folks who, uh, are are uncircumcised.

1597
00:52:29,478 --> 00:52:29,988
Ah-huh.

1598
00:52:30,163 --> 00:52:35,713
Because it pulls back the, uh,
foreskin while exposing the

1599
00:52:35,713 --> 00:52:38,513
head, adding lube instantly.

1600
00:52:38,693 --> 00:52:39,293
Oh my gosh.

1601
00:52:39,293 --> 00:52:40,613
That is just way too much.

1602
00:52:40,943 --> 00:52:42,083
No, that sounds just right.

1603
00:52:42,583 --> 00:52:44,053
That sounds just right.

1604
00:52:44,353 --> 00:52:47,743
Johnny, thank you so much for sitting
down with us today, and honestly for

1605
00:52:47,863 --> 00:52:51,703
everything that you do to help people
learn, grow, and feel more confidence,

1606
00:52:52,123 --> 00:52:53,953
uh, in, in stepping into this world.

1607
00:52:54,453 --> 00:52:58,503
Seriously, education like
this makes so much difference

1608
00:52:58,803 --> 00:53:00,003
and we love being part of it.

1609
00:53:00,003 --> 00:53:03,693
So thank you very much and the community
that we focus on learning and the

1610
00:53:03,693 --> 00:53:06,153
connection instead of just assumptions.

1611
00:53:06,243 --> 00:53:06,543
Yeah.

1612
00:53:06,543 --> 00:53:10,713
So if you enjoyed this episode,
make sure that you like, subscribe,

1613
00:53:10,713 --> 00:53:13,478
share it with somebody who's
curious about ethical non-monogamy,

1614
00:53:13,653 --> 00:53:15,753
and please leave us a review.

1615
00:53:15,753 --> 00:53:17,583
I know I sound desperate, but just do it.

1616
00:53:17,583 --> 00:53:18,693
Come on guys.

1617
00:53:18,988 --> 00:53:19,598
Just do it.

1618
00:53:19,598 --> 00:53:19,743
Just do it.

1619
00:53:20,613 --> 00:53:24,113
It helps more people discover the
show and helps us bringing you

1620
00:53:24,113 --> 00:53:26,003
awesome conversations like this.

1621
00:53:26,093 --> 00:53:26,693
Whatever

1622
00:53:27,113 --> 00:53:33,353
you can find everything beyond monogamy
at our website, www.beyondmonogamy.com.

1623
00:53:33,593 --> 00:53:36,143
That's where you'll find our
blog, our merch episodes, guest

1624
00:53:36,143 --> 00:53:41,543
bios, our resources, and all of
our Beyond Monogamy confessional.

1625
00:53:41,543 --> 00:53:42,083
So.

1626
00:53:42,578 --> 00:53:43,208
Go there.

1627
00:53:43,298 --> 00:53:44,768
You can do that anonymously.

1628
00:53:44,768 --> 00:53:45,128
People.

1629
00:53:45,188 --> 00:53:45,398
Yeah.

1630
00:53:45,398 --> 00:53:47,138
100% anonymous, man.

1631
00:53:47,138 --> 00:53:48,908
I created it just for you.

1632
00:53:48,998 --> 00:53:49,118
Yes.

1633
00:53:49,448 --> 00:53:50,138
Uh, don't forget.

1634
00:53:50,138 --> 00:53:54,218
Also, you can hear us every
Thursday at 2:00 PM and 7:00 PM

1635
00:53:54,218 --> 00:53:57,098
Central time@fullswapradio.com.

1636
00:53:57,098 --> 00:53:57,908
We're still there.

1637
00:53:57,908 --> 00:54:03,128
Check us out along with the
bevy of other Adult show podcast

1638
00:54:03,628 --> 00:54:06,603
and check out our events calendar,
because you're gonna find that we're

1639
00:54:06,603 --> 00:54:10,263
gonna be doing our upcoming Swingers 1
0 1 workshop here at Forbidden Fruit.

1640
00:54:10,623 --> 00:54:12,453
We would love to meet
all of you in person.

1641
00:54:12,513 --> 00:54:12,903
Yes.

1642
00:54:12,903 --> 00:54:17,733
And that event will be listed on
our events section of our website.

1643
00:54:17,883 --> 00:54:17,973
Yes.

1644
00:54:18,103 --> 00:54:23,503
As well as Pris's birthday party on
March 14th at Club Eden in San Antonio.

1645
00:54:23,503 --> 00:54:24,793
Yes, it open to everybody.

1646
00:54:25,213 --> 00:54:26,263
It is not free.

1647
00:54:26,263 --> 00:54:28,693
You do have to pay to get into
the club, but it's gonna be

1648
00:54:28,693 --> 00:54:30,043
a big, big, big, big event.

1649
00:54:30,043 --> 00:54:32,083
Big and so everybody.

1650
00:54:32,443 --> 00:54:32,983
Thank you.

1651
00:54:32,983 --> 00:54:35,503
Everybody who's gonna be
there is gonna be there.

1652
00:54:35,563 --> 00:54:35,743
Yes.

1653
00:54:36,223 --> 00:54:37,183
So it's gonna be a lot of fun.

1654
00:54:37,183 --> 00:54:39,703
So be sure and check
our events tab for that.

1655
00:54:40,033 --> 00:54:42,343
And with that, thank
you all for listening.

1656
00:54:42,703 --> 00:54:43,903
We really appreciate it.

1657
00:54:43,903 --> 00:54:45,283
And we will see you guys next week.

1658
00:54:45,583 --> 00:54:45,733
Bye.