April 23, 2025
QUICKIE: Selective, Not Picky: The Art of Attraction

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Adam and Pris explore the theme of selectiveness in attraction on today’s Beyond Monogamy episode, contrasting their personal journeys and preferences. Pris reflects on her evolving taste, starting from a preference for a specific cultural background to a more inclusive view. Adam shares how his experiences of being judged shaped his preference for personalities over looks. They both discuss how these preferences play a role in their lifestyle choices, from purely physical engagements to deeper friendships. The conversation also touches on topics to avoid during interactions for a seamless experience.
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Hello and welcome to another episode of Beyond Monogamy.
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I'm Adam. And I'm Pris. And today. On today's
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Wednesday quickie, I wanted to talk a little bit about
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selectiveness or preferences. I know that you're.
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We. We recently coined the new phrase selective. You are selective.
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Selective, not picky. You are selective, not picky. I'm selective. And. And you
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and I. I. I think have always been very different
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on that end. Yes.
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Because. I don't know. I guess I've never really.
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You know, for me, I grew up in
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a certain way where I felt like I was always being judged physically.
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And so I never felt like people were. Or women were interested
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in me because of my look physically as a.
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As a high school kid, as a college kid, whatever. And so
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because of that, it kind of had me round out my preferences,
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and I guess I just always have never
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really focused as much on physicality or
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what they look like as much as I do personality.
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And I think that's really what shaped me.
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But you're the opposite spectrum for
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me. You. You're. You're pretty selective. Yeah, I am selective. I'm not selective
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in body types,
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I guess, and I'm not. Okay, so when you like
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the bigger guy. Right. When we first started the journey, I was super
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selective. Like, and I apologize if
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I hurt anybody's feelings or anything, but when I
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first started, I was really ignorant.
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I get you. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think the both of us kind of
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grew to learn. Yeah. Really ignorant. Just because the way I was
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raised. So I only wanted a.
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Like, a certain race. Like, I was
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always attracted to Latinos and Latinas
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and people of brown people, brown colors,
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people of color. That. That was my preferred person.
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Yeah. I've grown up. I am not ignorant.
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I love everybody. I do now.
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Now I'm selective in. In.
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I like the bigger guys. I like. I like bigger
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guys. That's my preference. I have been with all shapes
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and sizes. I don't really care. And I mean bigger. Like,
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I like The. I'm a chubby chaser like you like the dad bob.
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I like the dad bobs. I think larger guys. Yeah, I like
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the larger women or thicker women. It's. I find that really sexy,
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but it's not. It's. It's not only Ola. I only look for that.
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That's just. If that comes around, that's my attraction. You know
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how men like longer hair and not shorter hair and stuff like that?
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Yeah. So that's my preference. The thicker the snicker,
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the better. But you can have sex with somebody who doesn't match
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that and still be attracted to that. For sure. I have.
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We have a. We have friends that he is not thick
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at all. And a great,
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amazing sex was wonderful.
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Yeah. So. Yeah, no, I. It's. It's just if I have to like,
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put a name on it or whatever. Yeah. I just. Yeah. That's kind of where
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your. Your eyes go directly. Yeah.
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I'm also select. I'm also selective.
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If. And like, if I know that they party too hard.
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Yeah. I'm not. I'm not going to have sex with them. Yeah. Yeah.
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And you know, it's funny is that we've sat back and gone,
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okay, are you counting how many drinks he's had?
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And I. And I am. Because I am.
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I know we say that I'm transactional, but I do not want to be
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laying on the bed with a guy who's never going to come
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because he has drank way too much. That's not my thing.
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Yeah. If you take too long and I'm tired, I'm going to leave
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you there by yourself. Yeah. Yeah. And.
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And for the women too, like, I don't want a sloppy girl all
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over me, you know, like, extremely.
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We've had like, we've had people that drink like six beer, whatever.
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And I'm not saying that I'm talking about, like, I'm selective. If you've
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had way too many and just lost control.
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And I can tell because I know when you're sober and I know when.
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You'Re extreme as soon as your words start slurring and things like that.
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Yeah. So I just. That's my preference. If I.
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If I know that you do hard drugs and I'm not talking about
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like cannabis or anything like that. If I know that you do hard drugs,
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that I'm not going to. But that's me because I grew up with a.
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A dad who was really into. Yeah.
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I was an addict and I just don't.
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I. It turns me off. Sure. Yeah. So that's
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really my selectiveness. Yeah, that's not, that's not as horrible as,
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as we make it sound like sometimes, but. And there's nothing
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wrong with that. Obviously we're in a, A,
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a lifestyle that you're having sex
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and most of the time you want to be attracted
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physically to the person you're having sex with. I mean, that's not.
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Everybody can, can just see per only personality. Like,
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not even I see only personality. Yeah. And you and I have, like we
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were, we, we've gone through this road before. You know, you're like, well, you're not
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giving them a chance. And it's like, well, well, see, and that, that was always
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my argument because once you're not attracted,
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that's one thing. But you closed, you would close the
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door completely. And my only argument was
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just get to know them a little bit and be a friend.
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Because if you're a friend to them and you get to know them, then all
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of a sudden it's like, oh, you know what? Their personality is making them
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not look good. Oh yeah, for sure. And I have given that a chance
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and I think because you've
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instilled that in me and always told me that I am way better.
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Oh yeah. At it now, like, yeah, totally. I,
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I never really give a lot of guys a chance because I always assumed,
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I used to assume that they're just all obnoxious and all they wanted to do
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and I just was not down for that. So I would always go
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toward the women. Right. It's not even like that anymore.
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No, no, it's. You've, you've come a long way in that. Which is interesting.
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Well, and you know, I obviously, as we know, I'm, I'm very big
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into personality, but I have to have some sort of physical attraction.
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Something has to attract me. Yeah. Initially to even
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want to go and find out if you have a good personality.
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Now I have a question for you. Do say you
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find this woman and she's super great personality
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and she is sexual.
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Like she looks great. Right. She's attractive and everything, but then
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you start to get to know her and something comes out of her mouth that
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you just don't like. Yeah, that's happened before.
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Is that an automatic turn off for you? Can you look past that?
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I can look past it to be friends, but I
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cannot look past it to pursue for
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anything else. No, no. Like it just cuts it off right
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there. It's a turn off. Yeah, it's a turn off. It is.
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You know, I've I've. I've had that happen
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and then heard the person say something ridiculously racist
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and been like, nope, see you later. Yeah, I've.
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I've been in that same scenario and, you know,
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had somebody talk, nothing but sex,
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and I'm interested in you and this and that. And then, you know,
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after a while, it's just kind of all talk, and then they say dumb things
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and it's like, okay, yeah, you know, all of this compiled together now.
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Yeah. You know, it just kind of has me turn my head
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the other way. There's a lot I can look past. There is. There's a lot.
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Yeah, there's a lot I can look past. Because realistically,
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I mean, we're not marrying these people.
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Yeah. You know, we're taking these people on as friends and,
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like, it's. There's different levels to it, as far as I'm concerned.
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So the different levels are that, you know, the, The. The top level
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is the people in our close circle, the people that
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we love and adore and love to spend time with all the
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time. And we probably text every day and all that stuff. Those are
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the people that are on the top tier. Right. And those are the people that,
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you know, we definitely want to have sex with,
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but we also have to like their personality because we have to.
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We want to be around them so much, May bring them around our kids.
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You know, everybody's going to get to know each other and that sort of thing.
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So it's. It's those connections.
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That's the top level. And then the very bottom
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level are just people that you'd be willing to have sex with,
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you know, and you don't necessarily have to agree with
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them or like them 100%. It can be transactional.
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It can be, I say, semi transactional. I. In order
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for me to work, I still have to know them well enough and like them
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well enough, you know, But I, I've. I've met and
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talked to somebody two or three times and then been like,
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okay, this is good enough. We can have sex. Like, I don't have to delve
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into what their thoughts are on life. You know what I mean?
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Like, I'm good. Like, there's certain personalities that I, I sit back
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and I go, okay, yeah, you know what? I would. I would absolutely have sex
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with them. Wouldn't want to do much else. You know, have to talk to
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me now. Please don't talk. Yeah, and stick this in your mouth.
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Those are, Those are the few times that you'll actually see me somewhat
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transactional And I'll be like, you know what? Let's. And it's those same people
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that chances are we'll have sex with or will
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play with if at some point and then most likely
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never play again. Yeah. It's like, okay, we had the experience.
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It was good, not too bad. Yeah, that's about it. You know what I don't
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like when I. When it's a guy and it's. When it's a guy and
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it. He's like hot.
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And for instance, we had this happen.
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This guy was hot. I thought he was hot.
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And then he starts talking and it
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was great. But then he starts talking and he goes this way. And I
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could tell the racism wasn't to come. And I looked the
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other way because I was like, damn, I'm not going to listen to him because
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I truly want to have sex with this guy. Yeah. And I think
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you, you stopped paying attention. I stopp paying attention. And I think he got the
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hint and he shut up. Yeah. And I was like, all right,
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homie. Yeah. You know, there's. There's some big things that
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you don't talk about with us. You know, for one thing,
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you have to be kind. You cannot be an. You have to
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be kind. Like, that's a turn on for us. Like, you got to be kind.
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But then on top of all that, don't talk about politics.
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No. Don't talk about, you know, conspiracy theories.
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Don't talk about anything that normally would make
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a vanilla person turn around and go, ew,
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let me walk away. Some conspiracy thinkers are kind of hot.
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It really depends on the conspiracy. But you know,
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realistically, it's like,
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let's keep this on a fun even keel. There's nothing fun
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when we're talking politics. There's nothing fun talking economy.
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You know, don't. Just don't waste our time with that. If you want
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to have sex, you're not going to talk about that stuff. You know what I
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mean? It's like an automatic turn off because you could be taking the chance of,
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of upsetting somebody offending. Yeah, we just don't.
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We just don't go that route. Yeah, but that has happened before. Yeah. Where somebody
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just says something so stupid and it's like you try to not to hear it.
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You try not to pay attention to it because it's like, can I overlook this?
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To have sex with that person now, that guy particularly. You're probably
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going to have sex with him. I hope so. Yeah. But you're
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gonna have to overlook that. I am. Yeah. And I want
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his wife, too. And so do you. And I'm like, I'm willing to overlook
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it all. Yeah, I'm sure it won't come up again,
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but. No, I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure you read the room. Because you can
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see my face. That's the problem is a lot of people don't always know how
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to read the room. Yeah. And it just goes from there. But,
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you know, selectiveness is okay. Selectiveness is okay.
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Now, I. I remember when we. I always thought it was okay because
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for the first several years that we were in the journey, you know, you made
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your preference known. You were like, I like Latinos. I want to have
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only Hispanics and that sort of thing. And I was. And I was new to
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the whole thing, and I was like, okay, whatever. That's your preference,
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and I'll do whatever you say, because I want to get late.
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But when we became poly,
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there was something different that happened. And,
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man, did I get chastised. You cannot
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talk preferences in a group of poly.
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No, because you are. It's. It's.
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You know, if you say, well, I like a thicker gal over a
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skinny gal, well, guess what you are. Body shaming.
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Yeah. If you say, well, I really
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love Latinos, I. I love being with a Hispanic.
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Well, guess what? You're fetishizing, you know? And people
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get very sensitive. Oh, do you remember when we went to go
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eat with somebody? The people that didn't like me? Yeah,
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yeah, I remember them. And it was a Caucasian guy
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and a African American girl,
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and she was just, oh,
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they're poly. And it was like, oh, people just.
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Fetish. You know, they. They. Fetish size. Yeah,
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fetishize. Fetish size. Fetishize. Nope,
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I don't like that word. But that word right there, I can't say
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Fetish eyes. Oh, fetish eyes. There you go. Now put it
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all together. Fetish eyes. Now you got to put it all together. Oh, fetishize.
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There you go. Yeah, we're not putting the space about
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African American women. And we went to
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go eat, and she said that the. The waiter
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was doing that. Yeah. And it was a thing. And I looked
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at her and I was like, is she being serious? She was being
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dead serious. Yeah. But she is not the only
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person to mention that to us. Yeah, Yeah.
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I found that one weird. But she's not the first person to mention. I mention
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that people, like, fetishize about certain
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races. Yeah. Well, so it is the thing. And. And that's. That's really
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where you. You have to sit back and go, okay,
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is it a preference or am I fetishizing? When do you know
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that? That's the hard part. So the problem is,
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is that we sit back and we
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don't think that then that anything is wrong with what we
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want. Why is it. Why is it such a bad thing? Like. Well,
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so that. I think the problem is, is that we're just.
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You get shamed by other people for wanting
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what you want. And so then you go, well,
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I guess I should. I shouldn't want that. I should want,
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like, everybody. I mean, just keep it to yourself.
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For the most part. Yeah, I guess so. I mean,
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I wouldn't go like if, say, say my
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preference was for African American women only.
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I don't think I would put that out there like that.
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Yeah. I think I would just meet everybody,
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and then when I met somebody that I was interested in, I would let them
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know, hey, you know, I'm really interested in you. And I would just leave it
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at that. I wouldn't actually throw out there.
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Look, this is what I'm looking for. Yeah. Because that's a very specific
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advertisement. And let's. Let's be realistic.
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If a. If a white person came out on the
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groups or on SDC or wherever and put in.
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In the body of the paragraph looking only
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for whites. I've seen that. I have too,
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now with that. I've. I've had people sit back and go,
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ugh, that's so racist. And I don't.
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But I've seen Hispanics do it. Yeah. I've seen African
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Americans do it. Yeah. And I have not seen that same reaction.
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And I always thought that was kind of interesting. And. But realistically,
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I mean, where. Where is the line that you can go,
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okay, it's a preference. It's a preference. It's a preference. Oh, I'm fetishizing.
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Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I have no idea. I would just keep it
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to myself. I mean, when I was more poly, that's all
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I. That's all I dated. Yeah. Oh, wait, no, the first one wasn't,
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but my preference was Latinos, and I ended up changing it. I was
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like, I only want to drade a Latina. Yeah. And that's all I dated.
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Well, you dated. You dated other women. It wasn't just.
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It wasn't just that because there was the girl from
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Canada. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's that her. She wasn't.
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She wasn't. But then after that, I was like, I just want to Date a
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Latina. And then the one after her wasn't. Was a Latina, was she?
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Yes. I would have never known. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Interesting.
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Yeah. No. What do you think she was? I thought she was white.
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No. No kidding. Oh, as Latino
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as you can get. I would have. I would have never guessed. Yeah. From the
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east side of Sanit. Of. Of here. Yeah. Oh,
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wow. Yeah. Everybody knows that if you're from the. East side and you.
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When we moved here, it was all African Americans,
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was it? Yeah, for me. Yeah. When we moved down here.
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Yeah. Really? Yeah. Down south, it wasn't
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Mexicanas. It was all. Well, down south. Yeah. It was all Latinas,
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and most of those Latinas were asking me to cheat, but out
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here. Yeah. Yeah, I guess you're. I guess so. When we were poly,
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I did have a preference, and I would swipe
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right or left if you. You know, that was. That was my preference. When we
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be. When we did the swing, when we just went back to
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swinging, and I kind of opened my eyes up
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a little bit more, I was like, oh, cool. But I
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will tell you, it's because I never really had been around anybody
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other than Latinos. Yeah. And so I. I can understand the
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preference to an extent, especially if we're talking poly. If we're
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talking poly, you're talking about dating somebody, you're talking about going into
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a relationship with them. You have to have stuff in common with them.
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You want to be able to relate to them. Yeah. And if they're
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a similar background as you. Yeah. Then you have
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stuff that you can relate to. Yeah. You know, we can. We can talk tortillas
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all day long. And so, like, now I.
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Now I am open. Like, I've opened my eyes and
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I'm like, oh, wow. You can pretty much find a.
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Something like that that, you know, that's. Or whatever in any
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race. Right. Especially where we live.
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Yeah. Like, it's. It's nice.
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I'm not. I'm not so blind. I'm not so ignorant. Yeah.
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I mean, you know, I mean, it was ignorant. It was. Yeah. And then pretty
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much, you've got. You've got people who proved you wrong on that.
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Oh, yeah. Kind of opened up your eyes to it, which is really cool.
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You know, it didn't have to be me. It was. It was other people.
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It was. And it's nice because, like, we have a
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bevy of different people in our lives, and I
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don't see race at all. Yeah. It is funny, though, because that
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couple. Yeah. That I. That I'm talking To.
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She's white. Oh, okay. And he's.
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I'm assuming he's Latino. Yeah, but I thought she
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was Latina. Yeah. And so I'm talking, and I'm talking,
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I'm like, oh, wait, you're not Latina. But it's such
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a sense. Some people are just like that. Like the,
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the single friend of ours. Yeah, it's.
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It's so cool to kind of. They just become a Persona.
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They're not. There's no race. There's no race. And it's.
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It's nice. Like, it is nice now, you know,
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when it comes to the sexual aspect of it, there is a lot
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that's, that has to do with race. I mean, a lot
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revolves around that. I knew a lot of women that, that said that they would
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only sleep with black men. Oh, yeah. And, you know,
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there's. There's a lot of, of women and couples who
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seek that out. I, I've, I've got friends who straight up are
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like, well, this is what we're seeking. We want an African
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American male for this, that and the other. And it's like,
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okay, well, good luck finding what. But isn't it funny how
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we don't find it? We don't find. We don't find that racist. We don't.
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And that's. But realistically, it's. It's one of those things where if
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it was the other way around, I mean, I don't know. It's.
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It's really just a matter of opinion per person.
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And realistically, I personally
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believe that if, you know, if I have my preferences
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and then somebody from a third party or somebody just comes out and says,
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hey, you're fetishizing. Yeah, I would
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say, you know what? It's my preference. It's your preference. And who
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are you to tell me how I want what
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I want? You know, like, this is me. This is what I'm doing. I mean,
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there's people that like facial hair. There's people that don't like facial hair.
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There's people. It's the same thing. Like people telling you how. What's the
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right way to lifestyle? No, you can't, you can't do
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that. You're pushing your opinions,
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whether right or wrong, on somebody else in a lifestyle that
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varies so widely. Yeah,
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but it doesn't stop people from doing that. You know, I mean, they're just going
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to continue pushing their opinion on stuff and, and shaming
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people. You know, I saw a post one time. I saw.
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I've seen several posts throughout the years. That, you know,
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celebrate thick girls. You know,
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it'll be like a meme. Oh my gosh. I saw. Yeah. A meme.
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And not too long ago somebody posted it. I've seen it reposted
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and reposted throughout the years, but it's a meme basically celebrating
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thick girls. And, you know, I'm searching for thick girls or it's thick girl season
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or whatever the hell. Yeah. You know, and most
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of the time people will laugh it off and they'll,
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you know, make comments and stuff, but every now and then,
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including this last time, there were a lot of
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overly sensitive shaming comments saying
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that this was body shaming and this was wrong
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and things like that. Now are they wrong for saying that?
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Technically not it is it. It can be
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const. That's the problem with this is it can be construed.
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Body shame. Yeah, exactly. You know, it's exactly. If you take
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every single thing seriously that is posted,
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that is said, if you take every single thing seriously
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to the word, to the letter, then you're going to be
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just upset all the time. Yeah. You know, not everybody means
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things that way. And I'm not saying that,
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that, that's the case all the time because we do know some people that,
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that mean things when they say certain things.
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It's like, oh, God, you need to get away. Yeah. But for
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the most part, it's. It's just a funny
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or it's just something to. To get the, the commentary going.
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Yeah. And all it takes are one or two people to
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feel sensitive about it and shame.
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And it kind of sparks this whole backlash
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and people start jumping on the bandwagon because they just feel like there's.
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There's greater safety in numbers, that sort of thing. Yeah.
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It's okay to be selective, but here's.
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The problem that I have with that. That whole thing is
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you're shaming somebody for what you
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consider shaming. Shaming. You're publicly shaming.
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Yeah. Full circle. Full circle for sure, girl.
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You're shaming somebody. You are publicly. Yeah.
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For what you feel is shaming. And how
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does that make you any better? Like if you really, really felt
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like this was an offensive thing or if this was an issue, look past it.
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Look past it. Or if you want to bring it up, message them one on
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one behind closed doors and say, hey, look,
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I, you know, I'm not telling you to take it down, but I just want
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to throw this out here. This is the way I felt about it, blah,
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blah. Now they can tell you to off or they can tell you I.
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I appreciate you voicing your opinion. Or they
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can tell you, you know what? I'm sorry, I'll take it down. But at least
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you said your piece. You were able to get out whatever it is that
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you felt regarding that. And you didn't
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shame them. You didn't make them feel bad. You didn't turn around
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and do the exact same thing that you were complaining about. You know what I
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mean? I think that there is a. A buttload
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of hypocrisy that just is everywhere.
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And it's like, stop it. Stop, stop, stop.
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You know, we're all adults here. We don't have to act like that. We can
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be selective. We don't have to be vocal about it. We can be selective,
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but we can be. And if you want to be vocal about it, be vocal
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about it. There should be nobody telling you how to do you.
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Yeah. It is your life. And if people get offended,
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oops, I'm. Well. Oh, well. Yeah,
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it's okay to be selective. You know, I always give you a hard
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time just for. For the sake of. Most of the time, just playing
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devil's advocate, but sometimes you're
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extremely. I am, I am super.
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You are very sweet.
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You're a very nice person. Yeah. You're very.
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You are. You have a big heart. Yeah. And if
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somebody rubs me wrong, somebody does something, I'm.
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Oh, that's it. It stays a. A sour taste stays in my mouth for a
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long time. You used to be like that. I used to be like that.
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I, you know, I try to. I'm trying to better myself.
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Every year. I'm trying to. Now do you think you're better. You better yourself because
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sexually, you want them sexually and you can look past things. Do you think you
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look past things for sex because you want them
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sexually? No. That's a really good question, though.
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But no. And I can tell you why it's no.
448
00:27:20,490 --> 00:27:24,466
Because I've looked past things just to keep somebody
449
00:27:24,498 --> 00:27:27,986
as a friend. Now, there are some people that I have looked past things
450
00:27:28,058 --> 00:27:31,138
because I do want to tag it. You know, I want to have sex.
451
00:27:31,194 --> 00:27:34,146
Yeah. And if they're really high, like,
452
00:27:34,218 --> 00:27:38,158
sometimes it's one of those weighing out things. It's like, okay, is it.
453
00:27:38,214 --> 00:27:41,742
Is it worth it? So, I mean, to look past
454
00:27:41,926 --> 00:27:45,822
to, to engage in the sex, or is it not. Does this look
455
00:27:45,846 --> 00:27:49,342
like something that's going to turn left or is it going. To turn right now?
456
00:27:49,446 --> 00:27:52,926
How is that. Isn't that being a hypocrite toward me because
457
00:27:52,998 --> 00:27:56,334
I just go the Other way. I just say I
458
00:27:56,342 --> 00:27:59,422
don't want to do it. I don't want to be their friend. I don't want
459
00:27:59,446 --> 00:28:03,246
to talk to them. How is that hypocritical? Because you, you shame me for,
460
00:28:03,398 --> 00:28:06,942
for being, for not liking people very quickly. Well,
461
00:28:06,966 --> 00:28:10,986
I don't, I don't not shame. You do the devil's advocate thing and.
462
00:28:11,058 --> 00:28:15,050
Well, no, it's not even that. It's, it's, you know, you can have
463
00:28:15,090 --> 00:28:19,290
your preferences. Uhhuh. Just fine. It's the,
464
00:28:19,410 --> 00:28:23,050
it's the, the, the judginess that you, that you
465
00:28:23,090 --> 00:28:27,750
come out with sometimes. It's the things that you say as to why
466
00:28:28,290 --> 00:28:30,922
you don't want them. Me? Oh,
467
00:28:30,986 --> 00:28:34,462
totally. I do that. Totally. Don't ever look through
468
00:28:34,486 --> 00:28:38,030
your text messages. I am,
469
00:28:38,150 --> 00:28:41,998
I'm. And it's, it's just the way. And we're best friends, so you're 100%
470
00:28:42,054 --> 00:28:45,582
honest with me, and I, for the
471
00:28:45,606 --> 00:28:49,150
most part, you can say whatever you want, and I will support you
472
00:28:49,190 --> 00:28:52,830
on it, but sometimes you say things that are
473
00:28:52,870 --> 00:28:56,862
just so blatantly ugly that it,
474
00:28:56,966 --> 00:29:00,386
it triggers something inside me, and now. Ugly.
475
00:29:00,498 --> 00:29:03,938
Let's, let's, let's. Well, I mean, yeah, let's. So if I do not
476
00:29:03,994 --> 00:29:07,250
like somebody. Yeah. I don't care if
477
00:29:07,370 --> 00:29:10,994
whatever they did, if I do not like them or if
478
00:29:11,002 --> 00:29:15,202
they left a sour taste in my mouth. That sour taste stays
479
00:29:15,266 --> 00:29:18,498
there. Yeah. I used to be very forgiving like you.
480
00:29:18,634 --> 00:29:22,082
I used to be very forgiving. I'm very passive. You were.
481
00:29:22,186 --> 00:29:24,830
Yeah. You were. Not anymore. No, no,
482
00:29:24,970 --> 00:29:27,830
I, I'm here. You and I have kind of switched roles. We have. I,
483
00:29:27,870 --> 00:29:31,782
I am very. I used to be very passive. I'm passive with, like, my family,
484
00:29:31,886 --> 00:29:35,862
but people outside of my family. No, I just. It's. That's funny.
485
00:29:35,926 --> 00:29:39,350
So you've, you've gone one direction, I've gone the other.
486
00:29:39,470 --> 00:29:43,126
Because when we started, I was very stern
487
00:29:43,158 --> 00:29:46,774
and straightforward and kind of aggressive,
488
00:29:46,822 --> 00:29:50,470
and you were very passive. And that's how this always would
489
00:29:50,510 --> 00:29:53,802
work out. We would get into an argument or something, and you
490
00:29:53,826 --> 00:29:56,730
would just be like, okay, honey, and, and you would be very passive. And then
491
00:29:56,770 --> 00:30:00,170
as the years went on, you learned how to find your voice, and you
492
00:30:00,210 --> 00:30:04,490
started kind of coming back, and then, you know, we've grown
493
00:30:04,650 --> 00:30:08,378
as personalities, as individuals and as a couple. Yeah.
494
00:30:08,554 --> 00:30:11,658
And as I've gotten older,
495
00:30:11,754 --> 00:30:14,762
I've. You gotten sweeter. I've gotten softer.
496
00:30:14,906 --> 00:30:18,762
I'm like your grandpa. I'm tired of being. Well, I'm tired of being upset.
497
00:30:18,826 --> 00:30:22,298
I, I, I've spent my 20s and my 30s just
498
00:30:22,354 --> 00:30:26,538
feeling like I was pissed off about everything. Yeah. And not
499
00:30:26,594 --> 00:30:30,170
knowing, you know, how we're gonna pay our bills and how this and
500
00:30:30,210 --> 00:30:32,986
that, it's like I just felt like I was pissed off all the time.
501
00:30:33,058 --> 00:30:36,570
Yeah. And you're pissed off so often that you're just like,
502
00:30:36,610 --> 00:30:38,970
dude, I just want to have a good time. I just want to relax,
503
00:30:39,050 --> 00:30:41,962
you know? And I don't. I don't. And I'm not saying that you're pissed off
504
00:30:41,986 --> 00:30:45,850
all the time, but you have your.
505
00:30:45,970 --> 00:30:49,020
Your more sensitive now. Your.
506
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,200
I don't deal with the. Anymore. I'm. I'm past
507
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,400
the. If you can't be real with me, if you can't be open with me,
508
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,780
if you beat around the bush, I'm done. Yeah. Yeah.
509
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,432
And this is where I have to always remind you, is that there's people
510
00:31:04,536 --> 00:31:07,488
in this lifestyle who are learning,
511
00:31:07,584 --> 00:31:10,832
still learning how to communicate. They're still learning how to deal with
512
00:31:10,856 --> 00:31:15,108
uncomfortable feelings. Yeah. They're learning how to deal with their spouses
513
00:31:15,264 --> 00:31:19,320
and with people they want to play with. And it's still all very new.
514
00:31:19,620 --> 00:31:23,324
And while you and I, we've been doing this for 13 years
515
00:31:23,412 --> 00:31:26,508
now, and we've kind of gotten used to it, and actually, it's only
516
00:31:26,564 --> 00:31:30,540
recently, the past few years, that we've really found our footing.
517
00:31:30,700 --> 00:31:34,316
It was always trial, but trial and error, you know, here and there. We'd figure
518
00:31:34,348 --> 00:31:37,612
stuff out as we went along, But a lot of these people, you know,
519
00:31:37,636 --> 00:31:41,100
we. We have to remember that they just. They're still
520
00:31:41,140 --> 00:31:44,816
new. Yeah. No, And. And I. I do. I do, but I'm
521
00:31:44,848 --> 00:31:48,304
just. That's where you and I differ. That. That's where we balance. Because I have
522
00:31:48,312 --> 00:31:51,456
to sit back and I'm like, okay, you're a little too unforgiving. Yeah.
523
00:31:51,568 --> 00:31:54,352
And you should be. You should be laid back.
524
00:31:54,456 --> 00:31:57,300
My. My thing is, I just want to be laid back. To me, that's.
525
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,120
You're not very laid back in that. In that retrospect. Yeah. But I
526
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,592
also. Kind of uptight, but I also don't carry it with me.
527
00:32:04,696 --> 00:32:08,112
No, you don't. That's true. I don't carry it with me. So the only reason
528
00:32:08,136 --> 00:32:11,072
why I know about it is because we talk about it. Yeah. Because I know
529
00:32:11,096 --> 00:32:14,624
it. And. And. Yeah. So that's it. Like, I don't.
530
00:32:14,752 --> 00:32:18,288
I don't go around making mad faces at everybody. No.
531
00:32:18,344 --> 00:32:21,872
No. And you. You're cordial with everybody, and I'm very cordial with everybody.
532
00:32:22,016 --> 00:32:25,456
But I. As they say,
533
00:32:25,528 --> 00:32:28,944
they're not my enemies. But you keep your enemies very close.
534
00:32:29,032 --> 00:32:31,920
You still. You know what I mean? Like, you keep everybody close.
535
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,696
And then I also. I keep. Even if I don't like
536
00:32:35,768 --> 00:32:39,340
somebody or if I don't dig their vibe or whatever, and you do,
537
00:32:39,750 --> 00:32:43,210
I'm still going to be very sweet and I'm going to be very,
538
00:32:43,670 --> 00:32:46,878
very open to whatever you want to do.
539
00:32:46,934 --> 00:32:50,350
Like, you know, because we don't always like and people. And this is new
540
00:32:50,390 --> 00:32:53,902
for us because this. This is very odd for
541
00:32:53,926 --> 00:32:56,222
me. You know, I think I told you the other day, I was just like,
542
00:32:56,246 --> 00:32:59,246
man, this is. This is weird for me. I don't know how to take it
543
00:32:59,398 --> 00:33:03,230
because I'm not. I'm not used to it. I'm. I'm ready to be
544
00:33:03,270 --> 00:33:06,614
triggered. Like, I'm ready to hear you say something or.
545
00:33:06,742 --> 00:33:10,246
And you're also not having it yet. And you're also ready.
546
00:33:10,278 --> 00:33:13,542
If I don't like somebody for whatever reason, you're ready to throw the
547
00:33:13,566 --> 00:33:15,862
towel and be like, oh, I don't. Okay, fine. If you don't like them,
548
00:33:15,886 --> 00:33:19,334
then. And it's not even like that now. It's like, just because
549
00:33:19,422 --> 00:33:22,934
I don't like them or I don't care for
550
00:33:23,102 --> 00:33:26,102
whatever it is about them. And you do.
551
00:33:26,206 --> 00:33:29,606
Yeah. I'm going to be cordial, I'm going to be sweet, and I'm
552
00:33:29,638 --> 00:33:32,758
going to keep you at arm's length. Like, I'm going to.
553
00:33:32,814 --> 00:33:35,330
My husband likes you, so I'm going to keep you.
554
00:33:35,670 --> 00:33:39,422
Yeah. Cool. Yeah, you do you. And like I
555
00:33:39,446 --> 00:33:42,702
told you, the moment I see something, I'm be
556
00:33:42,726 --> 00:33:46,846
like, boom. Nah, you're. My husband's very sweet. He's very nice,
557
00:33:47,038 --> 00:33:49,934
but don't take advantage, you know? Yeah.
558
00:33:49,982 --> 00:33:53,778
My protectiveness comes in, but how could. Somebody take advantage of me,
559
00:33:53,824 --> 00:33:57,678
really? You're very sweet. You are the sweetest. I don't give anybody money.
560
00:33:57,814 --> 00:34:01,428
No. Just different ways, you know? You know.
561
00:34:01,484 --> 00:34:04,548
Oh, can you be my. I'm feeling down today.
562
00:34:04,604 --> 00:34:08,228
Can you be my little upper. Nah, nah, I don't really have that.
563
00:34:08,284 --> 00:34:11,396
You don't have. That was. That was when we were. Yeah. And so
564
00:34:11,468 --> 00:34:15,092
have changed. And you never know. Like, I just. That's just me.
565
00:34:15,276 --> 00:34:18,452
Yeah, that's just me. I get it. But I'm nice,
566
00:34:18,516 --> 00:34:21,812
so. You are. You know, I. And I give you. I give you a hard
567
00:34:21,836 --> 00:34:26,068
time, but you don't show those colors to everybody.
568
00:34:26,164 --> 00:34:30,020
No. The hard part for me, and this is something that I have to fix
569
00:34:30,100 --> 00:34:33,420
because internally, I'm always expecting it.
570
00:34:33,540 --> 00:34:37,180
The hard part is, is when you React certain ways.
571
00:34:37,340 --> 00:34:40,556
So if I tell, I'm trying to get more comfortable telling you if I'm interested
572
00:34:40,588 --> 00:34:44,460
in somebody or if there's somebody I want you. I'm getting there.
573
00:34:44,580 --> 00:34:47,788
Getting there. It's still very. And I've been very supportive and. You have.
574
00:34:47,844 --> 00:34:51,820
Yeah. But I always sit back and I'm like, waiting for
575
00:34:51,940 --> 00:34:54,636
a bad reaction. I'm waiting for you to go.
576
00:34:54,788 --> 00:34:57,750
Really? Why? You want to talk to them, you know, that sort of thing,
577
00:34:57,900 --> 00:35:00,770
which has always been the case. And you're not doing that anymore,
578
00:35:00,850 --> 00:35:04,670
I think, because I, I told you, like, when you do that, I feel
579
00:35:05,210 --> 00:35:08,258
like I shouldn't be pursuing this person or I shouldn't
580
00:35:08,274 --> 00:35:10,850
be talking to that person. Right. You know, because I know that you don't care
581
00:35:10,890 --> 00:35:14,018
for them, but. Yeah, no, I, I,
582
00:35:14,074 --> 00:35:18,578
I, you've been real great about that lately, and it's, it's, I'm just not used
583
00:35:18,634 --> 00:35:21,682
to it. It's funny. You don't know everybody. I don't care about.
584
00:35:21,866 --> 00:35:25,442
I don't. No. And it, it comes out
585
00:35:25,466 --> 00:35:28,898
at some point. You don't hold these things in. It comes
586
00:35:28,954 --> 00:35:31,630
out, you make comments. I'm holding it in.
587
00:35:32,570 --> 00:35:35,970
Yeah, I'm sure. Selectiveness. Very selective.
588
00:35:36,050 --> 00:35:39,442
Very selective. I'm selective who my honey's and I kiss and
589
00:35:39,466 --> 00:35:42,866
who he's not. Oh, my gosh. You know, I, I, I'm really,
590
00:35:42,938 --> 00:35:46,322
I'm not anymore. Like, it's, yeah, it's gotten. You said the other day,
591
00:35:46,346 --> 00:35:49,762
you were like, you know, you're an individual and you, you are what you want.
592
00:35:49,786 --> 00:35:53,470
I'm not gonna stop you. You. Yeah. And that was very big for me
593
00:35:53,510 --> 00:35:57,006
because I'm used to being told what I can and can't do.
594
00:35:57,078 --> 00:36:00,350
Yeah. I'm used to it. Yeah. Especially in the lifestyle. That's just,
595
00:36:00,390 --> 00:36:03,838
that was our rule. Yeah. And no, you're your own,
596
00:36:03,894 --> 00:36:06,462
your own person. You know what I. Like I told you. You know what I
597
00:36:06,486 --> 00:36:09,518
expect? Yeah. That person's gonna know what I expect.
598
00:36:09,654 --> 00:36:13,022
Yeah. And I, I reach out
599
00:36:13,046 --> 00:36:16,382
to whomever, whenever. You know what I
600
00:36:16,406 --> 00:36:19,364
mean? Like, if it's somebody that I know that you're interested in,
601
00:36:19,502 --> 00:36:22,712
I'm gonna reach out and catch the vibe. If I like the vibe or if
602
00:36:22,736 --> 00:36:25,960
I don't like the vibe, I'm, you know, I'm gonna let you make that decision
603
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,620
if you like it or you don't. But. Yeah. No.
604
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,060
Well, you know, that's pretty interesting. I tell you what, though,
605
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,528
you know, I think we figured out a lot as far as selectiveness.
606
00:36:37,624 --> 00:36:40,936
I just, I feel like it's okay. I feel like it's okay to be selective.
607
00:36:40,968 --> 00:36:44,008
It's okay to want what you want. Don't let anybody shame
608
00:36:44,024 --> 00:36:47,678
you on that. Don't let anybody shame you on that. Nope. Unless it's
609
00:36:47,694 --> 00:36:51,630
your husband and they're on the podcast. Yeah, that's okay.
610
00:36:51,790 --> 00:36:55,438
That's okay. That's okay. That's right. And he'll just say, you shame me. I just
611
00:36:55,574 --> 00:36:58,974
do it. We're good. I'm gonna shame you after you eat that carrot cake.
612
00:36:59,022 --> 00:37:02,446
You see my little cupcake sitting? We started the podcast and I just ate
613
00:37:02,478 --> 00:37:06,990
the little cupcake. I know. Don't eat no more. I made the best carrot cupcakes.
614
00:37:07,070 --> 00:37:10,558
Yes. For Easter. It was wonderful. And with that,
615
00:37:10,614 --> 00:37:13,948
I. I hope all of you had a great holiday weekend.
616
00:37:14,134 --> 00:37:18,112
We are all recovering from that ourselves, but we
617
00:37:18,296 --> 00:37:21,664
are getting through the week, and I'm hoping to
618
00:37:21,752 --> 00:37:25,632
see some of you guys this weekend because there's a big old event
619
00:37:25,736 --> 00:37:29,216
happening down in San Antonio that we're going to be attending,
620
00:37:29,408 --> 00:37:32,608
and I think there's going to be a good amount of people there. Yeah,
621
00:37:32,624 --> 00:37:36,192
we're celebrating a friend's birthday. We're celebrating a couple of friends.
622
00:37:36,296 --> 00:37:39,360
A couple of friends birthdays. So we'll be staying the night down there.
623
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,716
But, you know, hopefully we get to see some of you guys this weekend.
624
00:37:42,748 --> 00:37:45,948
That would be nice. But with that, we're going to go ahead and sign off
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here for our Wednesday quickie. We're going to say thank you very much
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for joining us, as always, and we will see you next week.
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Hello and welcome to another episode of Beyond Monogamy.
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I'm Adam. And I'm Pris. And today. On today's
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Wednesday quickie, I wanted to talk a little bit about
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selectiveness or preferences. I know that you're.
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We. We recently coined the new phrase selective. You are selective.
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Selective, not picky. You are selective, not picky. I'm selective. And. And you
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and I. I. I think have always been very different
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on that end. Yes.
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Because. I don't know. I guess I've never really.
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You know, for me, I grew up in
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a certain way where I felt like I was always being judged physically.
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And so I never felt like people were. Or women were interested
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in me because of my look physically as a.
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As a high school kid, as a college kid, whatever. And so
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because of that, it kind of had me round out my preferences,
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and I guess I just always have never
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really focused as much on physicality or
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what they look like as much as I do personality.
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And I think that's really what shaped me.
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But you're the opposite spectrum for
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me. You. You're. You're pretty selective. Yeah, I am selective. I'm not selective
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in body types,
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I guess, and I'm not. Okay, so when you like
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the bigger guy. Right. When we first started the journey, I was super
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selective. Like, and I apologize if
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I hurt anybody's feelings or anything, but when I
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first started, I was really ignorant.
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I get you. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think the both of us kind of
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grew to learn. Yeah. Really ignorant. Just because the way I was
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raised. So I only wanted a.
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Like, a certain race. Like, I was
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always attracted to Latinos and Latinas
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and people of brown people, brown colors,
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people of color. That. That was my preferred person.
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Yeah. I've grown up. I am not ignorant.
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I love everybody. I do now.
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Now I'm selective in. In.
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I like the bigger guys. I like. I like bigger
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guys. That's my preference. I have been with all shapes
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and sizes. I don't really care. And I mean bigger. Like,
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I like The. I'm a chubby chaser like you like the dad bob.
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I like the dad bobs. I think larger guys. Yeah, I like
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the larger women or thicker women. It's. I find that really sexy,
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but it's not. It's. It's not only Ola. I only look for that.
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That's just. If that comes around, that's my attraction. You know
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how men like longer hair and not shorter hair and stuff like that?
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Yeah. So that's my preference. The thicker the snicker,
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the better. But you can have sex with somebody who doesn't match
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that and still be attracted to that. For sure. I have.
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We have a. We have friends that he is not thick
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at all. And a great,
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amazing sex was wonderful.
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Yeah. So. Yeah, no, I. It's. It's just if I have to like,
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put a name on it or whatever. Yeah. I just. Yeah. That's kind of where
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your. Your eyes go directly. Yeah.
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I'm also select. I'm also selective.
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If. And like, if I know that they party too hard.
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Yeah. I'm not. I'm not going to have sex with them. Yeah. Yeah.
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And you know, it's funny is that we've sat back and gone,
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okay, are you counting how many drinks he's had?
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And I. And I am. Because I am.
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I know we say that I'm transactional, but I do not want to be
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laying on the bed with a guy who's never going to come
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because he has drank way too much. That's not my thing.
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Yeah. If you take too long and I'm tired, I'm going to leave
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you there by yourself. Yeah. Yeah. And.
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And for the women too, like, I don't want a sloppy girl all
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over me, you know, like, extremely.
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We've had like, we've had people that drink like six beer, whatever.
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And I'm not saying that I'm talking about, like, I'm selective. If you've
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had way too many and just lost control.
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And I can tell because I know when you're sober and I know when.
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You'Re extreme as soon as your words start slurring and things like that.
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Yeah. So I just. That's my preference. If I.
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If I know that you do hard drugs and I'm not talking about
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like cannabis or anything like that. If I know that you do hard drugs,
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that I'm not going to. But that's me because I grew up with a.
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A dad who was really into. Yeah.
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I was an addict and I just don't.
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I. It turns me off. Sure. Yeah. So that's
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really my selectiveness. Yeah, that's not, that's not as horrible as,
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as we make it sound like sometimes, but. And there's nothing
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wrong with that. Obviously we're in a, A,
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a lifestyle that you're having sex
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and most of the time you want to be attracted
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physically to the person you're having sex with. I mean, that's not.
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Everybody can, can just see per only personality. Like,
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not even I see only personality. Yeah. And you and I have, like we
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were, we, we've gone through this road before. You know, you're like, well, you're not
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giving them a chance. And it's like, well, well, see, and that, that was always
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my argument because once you're not attracted,
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that's one thing. But you closed, you would close the
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door completely. And my only argument was
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just get to know them a little bit and be a friend.
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Because if you're a friend to them and you get to know them, then all
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of a sudden it's like, oh, you know what? Their personality is making them
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not look good. Oh yeah, for sure. And I have given that a chance
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and I think because you've
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instilled that in me and always told me that I am way better.
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Oh yeah. At it now, like, yeah, totally. I,
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I never really give a lot of guys a chance because I always assumed,
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I used to assume that they're just all obnoxious and all they wanted to do
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and I just was not down for that. So I would always go
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toward the women. Right. It's not even like that anymore.
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No, no, it's. You've, you've come a long way in that. Which is interesting.
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Well, and you know, I obviously, as we know, I'm, I'm very big
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into personality, but I have to have some sort of physical attraction.
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Something has to attract me. Yeah. Initially to even
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want to go and find out if you have a good personality.
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Now I have a question for you. Do say you
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find this woman and she's super great personality
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and she is sexual.
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Like she looks great. Right. She's attractive and everything, but then
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you start to get to know her and something comes out of her mouth that
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you just don't like. Yeah, that's happened before.
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Is that an automatic turn off for you? Can you look past that?
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I can look past it to be friends, but I
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cannot look past it to pursue for
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anything else. No, no. Like it just cuts it off right
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there. It's a turn off. Yeah, it's a turn off. It is.
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and then heard the person say something ridiculously racist
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and been like, nope, see you later. Yeah, I've.
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I've been in that same scenario and, you know,
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had somebody talk, nothing but sex,
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and I'm interested in you and this and that. And then, you know,
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after a while, it's just kind of all talk, and then they say dumb things
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and it's like, okay, yeah, you know, all of this compiled together now.
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the other way. There's a lot I can look past. There is. There's a lot.
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Yeah, there's a lot I can look past. Because realistically,
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I mean, we're not marrying these people.
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Yeah. You know, we're taking these people on as friends and,
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like, it's. There's different levels to it, as far as I'm concerned.
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So the different levels are that, you know, the, The. The top level
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is the people in our close circle, the people that
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we love and adore and love to spend time with all the
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time. And we probably text every day and all that stuff. Those are
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the people that are on the top tier. Right. And those are the people that,
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you know, we definitely want to have sex with,
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but we also have to like their personality because we have to.
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We want to be around them so much, May bring them around our kids.
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You know, everybody's going to get to know each other and that sort of thing.
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So it's. It's those connections.
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That's the top level. And then the very bottom
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level are just people that you'd be willing to have sex with,
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you know, and you don't necessarily have to agree with
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them or like them 100%. It can be transactional.
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It can be, I say, semi transactional. I. In order
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for me to work, I still have to know them well enough and like them
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well enough, you know, But I, I've. I've met and
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talked to somebody two or three times and then been like,
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okay, this is good enough. We can have sex. Like, I don't have to delve
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into what their thoughts are on life. You know what I mean?
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Like, I'm good. Like, there's certain personalities that I, I sit back
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and I go, okay, yeah, you know what? I would. I would absolutely have sex
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with them. Wouldn't want to do much else. You know, have to talk to
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me now. Please don't talk. Yeah, and stick this in your mouth.
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Those are, Those are the few times that you'll actually see me somewhat
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transactional And I'll be like, you know what? Let's. And it's those same people
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that chances are we'll have sex with or will
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play with if at some point and then most likely
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never play again. Yeah. It's like, okay, we had the experience.
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It was good, not too bad. Yeah, that's about it. You know what I don't
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like when I. When it's a guy and it's. When it's a guy and
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it. He's like hot.
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This guy was hot. I thought he was hot.
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And then he starts talking and it
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was great. But then he starts talking and he goes this way. And I
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could tell the racism wasn't to come. And I looked the
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other way because I was like, damn, I'm not going to listen to him because
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I truly want to have sex with this guy. Yeah. And I think
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you, you stopped paying attention. I stopp paying attention. And I think he got the
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hint and he shut up. Yeah. And I was like, all right,
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homie. Yeah. You know, there's. There's some big things that
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you don't talk about with us. You know, for one thing,
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you have to be kind. You cannot be an. You have to
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be kind. Like, that's a turn on for us. Like, you got to be kind.
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But then on top of all that, don't talk about politics.
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No. Don't talk about, you know, conspiracy theories.
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Don't talk about anything that normally would make
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a vanilla person turn around and go, ew,
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let me walk away. Some conspiracy thinkers are kind of hot.
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It really depends on the conspiracy. But you know,
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realistically, it's like,
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let's keep this on a fun even keel. There's nothing fun
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when we're talking politics. There's nothing fun talking economy.
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You know, don't. Just don't waste our time with that. If you want
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to have sex, you're not going to talk about that stuff. You know what I
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mean? It's like an automatic turn off because you could be taking the chance of,
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of upsetting somebody offending. Yeah, we just don't.
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We just don't go that route. Yeah, but that has happened before. Yeah. Where somebody
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just says something so stupid and it's like you try to not to hear it.
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You try not to pay attention to it because it's like, can I overlook this?
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To have sex with that person now, that guy particularly. You're probably
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going to have sex with him. I hope so. Yeah. But you're
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gonna have to overlook that. I am. Yeah. And I want
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his wife, too. And so do you. And I'm like, I'm willing to overlook
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it all. Yeah, I'm sure it won't come up again,
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but. No, I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure you read the room. Because you can
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see my face. That's the problem is a lot of people don't always know how
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to read the room. Yeah. And it just goes from there. But,
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you know, selectiveness is okay. Selectiveness is okay.
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Now, I. I remember when we. I always thought it was okay because
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for the first several years that we were in the journey, you know, you made
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your preference known. You were like, I like Latinos. I want to have
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only Hispanics and that sort of thing. And I was. And I was new to
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the whole thing, and I was like, okay, whatever. That's your preference,
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and I'll do whatever you say, because I want to get late.
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But when we became poly,
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there was something different that happened. And,
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man, did I get chastised. You cannot
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talk preferences in a group of poly.
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No, because you are. It's. It's.
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You know, if you say, well, I like a thicker gal over a
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skinny gal, well, guess what you are. Body shaming.
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love Latinos, I. I love being with a Hispanic.
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Well, guess what? You're fetishizing, you know? And people
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get very sensitive. Oh, do you remember when we went to go
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eat with somebody? The people that didn't like me? Yeah,
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yeah, I remember them. And it was a Caucasian guy
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and a African American girl,
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and she was just, oh,
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they're poly. And it was like, oh, people just.
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Fetish. You know, they. They. Fetish size. Yeah,
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fetishize. Fetish size. Fetishize. Nope,
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I don't like that word. But that word right there, I can't say
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Fetish eyes. Oh, fetish eyes. There you go. Now put it
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all together. Fetish eyes. Now you got to put it all together. Oh, fetishize.
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There you go. Yeah, we're not putting the space about
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African American women. And we went to
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go eat, and she said that the. The waiter
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was doing that. Yeah. And it was a thing. And I looked
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at her and I was like, is she being serious? She was being
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dead serious. Yeah. But she is not the only
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person to mention that to us. Yeah, Yeah.
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I found that one weird. But she's not the first person to mention. I mention
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that people, like, fetishize about certain
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races. Yeah. Well, so it is the thing. And. And that's. That's really
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where you. You have to sit back and go, okay,
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is it a preference or am I fetishizing? When do you know
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that? That's the hard part. So the problem is,
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is that we sit back and we
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don't think that then that anything is wrong with what we
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want. Why is it. Why is it such a bad thing? Like. Well,
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so that. I think the problem is, is that we're just.
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You get shamed by other people for wanting
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what you want. And so then you go, well,
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I guess I should. I shouldn't want that. I should want,
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like, everybody. I mean, just keep it to yourself.
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I wouldn't go like if, say, say my
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preference was for African American women only.
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I don't think I would put that out there like that.
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Yeah. I think I would just meet everybody,
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and then when I met somebody that I was interested in, I would let them
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know, hey, you know, I'm really interested in you. And I would just leave it
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at that. I wouldn't actually throw out there.
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Look, this is what I'm looking for. Yeah. Because that's a very specific
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advertisement. And let's. Let's be realistic.
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If a. If a white person came out on the
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groups or on SDC or wherever and put in.
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In the body of the paragraph looking only
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for whites. I've seen that. I have too,
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now with that. I've. I've had people sit back and go,
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ugh, that's so racist. And I don't.
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But I've seen Hispanics do it. Yeah. I've seen African
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Americans do it. Yeah. And I have not seen that same reaction.
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And I always thought that was kind of interesting. And. But realistically,
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I mean, where. Where is the line that you can go,
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okay, it's a preference. It's a preference. It's a preference. Oh, I'm fetishizing.
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Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I have no idea. I would just keep it
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to myself. I mean, when I was more poly, that's all
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I. That's all I dated. Yeah. Oh, wait, no, the first one wasn't,
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but my preference was Latinos, and I ended up changing it. I was
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like, I only want to drade a Latina. Yeah. And that's all I dated.
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Well, you dated. You dated other women. It wasn't just.
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It wasn't just that because there was the girl from
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Canada. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's that her. She wasn't.
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She wasn't. But then after that, I was like, I just want to Date a
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Latina. And then the one after her wasn't. Was a Latina, was she?
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Yes. I would have never known. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Interesting.
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Yeah. No. What do you think she was? I thought she was white.
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No. No kidding. Oh, as Latino
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as you can get. I would have. I would have never guessed. Yeah. From the
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east side of Sanit. Of. Of here. Yeah. Oh,
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wow. Yeah. Everybody knows that if you're from the. East side and you.
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When we moved here, it was all African Americans,
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was it? Yeah, for me. Yeah. When we moved down here.
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Yeah. Really? Yeah. Down south, it wasn't
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Mexicanas. It was all. Well, down south. Yeah. It was all Latinas,
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and most of those Latinas were asking me to cheat, but out
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here. Yeah. Yeah, I guess you're. I guess so. When we were poly,
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I did have a preference, and I would swipe
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right or left if you. You know, that was. That was my preference. When we
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be. When we did the swing, when we just went back to
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swinging, and I kind of opened my eyes up
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a little bit more, I was like, oh, cool. But I
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will tell you, it's because I never really had been around anybody
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other than Latinos. Yeah. And so I. I can understand the
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preference to an extent, especially if we're talking poly. If we're
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talking poly, you're talking about dating somebody, you're talking about going into
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a relationship with them. You have to have stuff in common with them.
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You want to be able to relate to them. Yeah. And if they're
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a similar background as you. Yeah. Then you have
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stuff that you can relate to. Yeah. You know, we can. We can talk tortillas
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all day long. And so, like, now I.
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Now I am open. Like, I've opened my eyes and
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I'm like, oh, wow. You can pretty much find a.
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Something like that that, you know, that's. Or whatever in any
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race. Right. Especially where we live.
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Yeah. Like, it's. It's nice.
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I'm not. I'm not so blind. I'm not so ignorant. Yeah.
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I mean, you know, I mean, it was ignorant. It was. Yeah. And then pretty
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much, you've got. You've got people who proved you wrong on that.
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Oh, yeah. Kind of opened up your eyes to it, which is really cool.
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You know, it didn't have to be me. It was. It was other people.
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It was. And it's nice because, like, we have a
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bevy of different people in our lives, and I
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don't see race at all. Yeah. It is funny, though, because that
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couple. Yeah. That I. That I'm talking To.
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She's white. Oh, okay. And he's.
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I'm assuming he's Latino. Yeah, but I thought she
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was Latina. Yeah. And so I'm talking, and I'm talking,
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I'm like, oh, wait, you're not Latina. But it's such
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a sense. Some people are just like that. Like the,
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the single friend of ours. Yeah, it's.
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It's so cool to kind of. They just become a Persona.
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They're not. There's no race. There's no race. And it's.
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It's nice. Like, it is nice now, you know,
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when it comes to the sexual aspect of it, there is a lot
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that's, that has to do with race. I mean, a lot
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revolves around that. I knew a lot of women that, that said that they would
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only sleep with black men. Oh, yeah. And, you know,
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there's. There's a lot of, of women and couples who
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seek that out. I, I've, I've got friends who straight up are
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like, well, this is what we're seeking. We want an African
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American male for this, that and the other. And it's like,
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okay, well, good luck finding what. But isn't it funny how
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we don't find it? We don't find. We don't find that racist. We don't.
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And that's. But realistically, it's. It's one of those things where if
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it was the other way around, I mean, I don't know. It's.
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It's really just a matter of opinion per person.
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And realistically, I personally
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believe that if, you know, if I have my preferences
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and then somebody from a third party or somebody just comes out and says,
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hey, you're fetishizing. Yeah, I would
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say, you know what? It's my preference. It's your preference. And who
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are you to tell me how I want what
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I want? You know, like, this is me. This is what I'm doing. I mean,
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there's people that like facial hair. There's people that don't like facial hair.
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There's people. It's the same thing. Like people telling you how. What's the
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right way to lifestyle? No, you can't, you can't do
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that. You're pushing your opinions,
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whether right or wrong, on somebody else in a lifestyle that
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varies so widely. Yeah,
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but it doesn't stop people from doing that. You know, I mean, they're just going
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to continue pushing their opinion on stuff and, and shaming
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people. You know, I saw a post one time. I saw.
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I've seen several posts throughout the years. That, you know,
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celebrate thick girls. You know,
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it'll be like a meme. Oh my gosh. I saw. Yeah. A meme.
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And not too long ago somebody posted it. I've seen it reposted
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and reposted throughout the years, but it's a meme basically celebrating
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thick girls. And, you know, I'm searching for thick girls or it's thick girl season
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or whatever the hell. Yeah. You know, and most
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of the time people will laugh it off and they'll,
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you know, make comments and stuff, but every now and then,
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including this last time, there were a lot of
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overly sensitive shaming comments saying
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that this was body shaming and this was wrong
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and things like that. Now are they wrong for saying that?
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Technically not it is it. It can be
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const. That's the problem with this is it can be construed.
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Body shame. Yeah, exactly. You know, it's exactly. If you take
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every single thing seriously that is posted,
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that is said, if you take every single thing seriously
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to the word, to the letter, then you're going to be
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just upset all the time. Yeah. You know, not everybody means
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things that way. And I'm not saying that,
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that, that's the case all the time because we do know some people that,
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that mean things when they say certain things.
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It's like, oh, God, you need to get away. Yeah. But for
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the most part, it's. It's just a funny
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or it's just something to. To get the, the commentary going.
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Yeah. And all it takes are one or two people to
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feel sensitive about it and shame.
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And it kind of sparks this whole backlash
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and people start jumping on the bandwagon because they just feel like there's.
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There's greater safety in numbers, that sort of thing. Yeah.
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It's okay to be selective, but here's.
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The problem that I have with that. That whole thing is
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you're shaming somebody for what you
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consider shaming. Shaming. You're publicly shaming.
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Yeah. Full circle. Full circle for sure, girl.
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You're shaming somebody. You are publicly. Yeah.
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For what you feel is shaming. And how
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does that make you any better? Like if you really, really felt
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like this was an offensive thing or if this was an issue, look past it.
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Look past it. Or if you want to bring it up, message them one on
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one behind closed doors and say, hey, look,
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I, you know, I'm not telling you to take it down, but I just want
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to throw this out here. This is the way I felt about it, blah,
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blah. Now they can tell you to off or they can tell you I.
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I appreciate you voicing your opinion. Or they
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can tell you, you know what? I'm sorry, I'll take it down. But at least
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you said your piece. You were able to get out whatever it is that
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you felt regarding that. And you didn't
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shame them. You didn't make them feel bad. You didn't turn around
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and do the exact same thing that you were complaining about. You know what I
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mean? I think that there is a. A buttload
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of hypocrisy that just is everywhere.
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And it's like, stop it. Stop, stop, stop.
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You know, we're all adults here. We don't have to act like that. We can
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be selective. We don't have to be vocal about it. We can be selective,
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but we can be. And if you want to be vocal about it, be vocal
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about it. There should be nobody telling you how to do you.
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Yeah. It is your life. And if people get offended,
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oops, I'm. Well. Oh, well. Yeah,
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it's okay to be selective. You know, I always give you a hard
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time just for. For the sake of. Most of the time, just playing
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devil's advocate, but sometimes you're
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extremely. I am, I am super.
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You are very sweet.
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You're a very nice person. Yeah. You're very.
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You are. You have a big heart. Yeah. And if
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somebody rubs me wrong, somebody does something, I'm.
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Oh, that's it. It stays a. A sour taste stays in my mouth for a
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long time. You used to be like that. I used to be like that.
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I, you know, I try to. I'm trying to better myself.
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Every year. I'm trying to. Now do you think you're better. You better yourself because
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sexually, you want them sexually and you can look past things. Do you think you
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look past things for sex because you want them
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sexually? No. That's a really good question, though.
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But no. And I can tell you why it's no.
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Because I've looked past things just to keep somebody
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as a friend. Now, there are some people that I have looked past things
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because I do want to tag it. You know, I want to have sex.
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Yeah. And if they're really high, like,
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sometimes it's one of those weighing out things. It's like, okay, is it.
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Is it worth it? So, I mean, to look past
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to, to engage in the sex, or is it not. Does this look
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like something that's going to turn left or is it going. To turn right now?
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How is that. Isn't that being a hypocrite toward me because
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I just go the Other way. I just say I
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don't want to do it. I don't want to be their friend. I don't want
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to talk to them. How is that hypocritical? Because you, you shame me for,
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for being, for not liking people very quickly. Well,
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I don't, I don't not shame. You do the devil's advocate thing and.
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Well, no, it's not even that. It's, it's, you know, you can have
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your preferences. Uhhuh. Just fine. It's the,
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it's the, the, the judginess that you, that you
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come out with sometimes. It's the things that you say as to why
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you don't want them. Me? Oh,
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totally. I do that. Totally. Don't ever look through
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your text messages. I am,
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I'm. And it's, it's just the way. And we're best friends, so you're 100%
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honest with me, and I, for the
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most part, you can say whatever you want, and I will support you
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on it, but sometimes you say things that are
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just so blatantly ugly that it,
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it triggers something inside me, and now. Ugly.
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Let's, let's, let's. Well, I mean, yeah, let's. So if I do not
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like somebody. Yeah. I don't care if
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whatever they did, if I do not like them or if
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they left a sour taste in my mouth. That sour taste stays
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there. Yeah. I used to be very forgiving like you.
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I used to be very forgiving. I'm very passive. You were.
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Yeah. You were. Not anymore. No, no,
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I, I'm here. You and I have kind of switched roles. We have. I,
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I am very. I used to be very passive. I'm passive with, like, my family,
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but people outside of my family. No, I just. It's. That's funny.
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So you've, you've gone one direction, I've gone the other.
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Because when we started, I was very stern
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and straightforward and kind of aggressive,
488
00:29:46,822 --> 00:29:50,470
and you were very passive. And that's how this always would
489
00:29:50,510 --> 00:29:53,802
work out. We would get into an argument or something, and you
490
00:29:53,826 --> 00:29:56,730
would just be like, okay, honey, and, and you would be very passive. And then
491
00:29:56,770 --> 00:30:00,170
as the years went on, you learned how to find your voice, and you
492
00:30:00,210 --> 00:30:04,490
started kind of coming back, and then, you know, we've grown
493
00:30:04,650 --> 00:30:08,378
as personalities, as individuals and as a couple. Yeah.
494
00:30:08,554 --> 00:30:11,658
And as I've gotten older,
495
00:30:11,754 --> 00:30:14,762
I've. You gotten sweeter. I've gotten softer.
496
00:30:14,906 --> 00:30:18,762
I'm like your grandpa. I'm tired of being. Well, I'm tired of being upset.
497
00:30:18,826 --> 00:30:22,298
I, I, I've spent my 20s and my 30s just
498
00:30:22,354 --> 00:30:26,538
feeling like I was pissed off about everything. Yeah. And not
499
00:30:26,594 --> 00:30:30,170
knowing, you know, how we're gonna pay our bills and how this and
500
00:30:30,210 --> 00:30:32,986
that, it's like I just felt like I was pissed off all the time.
501
00:30:33,058 --> 00:30:36,570
Yeah. And you're pissed off so often that you're just like,
502
00:30:36,610 --> 00:30:38,970
dude, I just want to have a good time. I just want to relax,
503
00:30:39,050 --> 00:30:41,962
you know? And I don't. I don't. And I'm not saying that you're pissed off
504
00:30:41,986 --> 00:30:45,850
all the time, but you have your.
505
00:30:45,970 --> 00:30:49,020
Your more sensitive now. Your.
506
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,200
I don't deal with the. Anymore. I'm. I'm past
507
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,400
the. If you can't be real with me, if you can't be open with me,
508
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,780
if you beat around the bush, I'm done. Yeah. Yeah.
509
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,432
And this is where I have to always remind you, is that there's people
510
00:31:04,536 --> 00:31:07,488
in this lifestyle who are learning,
511
00:31:07,584 --> 00:31:10,832
still learning how to communicate. They're still learning how to deal with
512
00:31:10,856 --> 00:31:15,108
uncomfortable feelings. Yeah. They're learning how to deal with their spouses
513
00:31:15,264 --> 00:31:19,320
and with people they want to play with. And it's still all very new.
514
00:31:19,620 --> 00:31:23,324
And while you and I, we've been doing this for 13 years
515
00:31:23,412 --> 00:31:26,508
now, and we've kind of gotten used to it, and actually, it's only
516
00:31:26,564 --> 00:31:30,540
recently, the past few years, that we've really found our footing.
517
00:31:30,700 --> 00:31:34,316
It was always trial, but trial and error, you know, here and there. We'd figure
518
00:31:34,348 --> 00:31:37,612
stuff out as we went along, But a lot of these people, you know,
519
00:31:37,636 --> 00:31:41,100
we. We have to remember that they just. They're still
520
00:31:41,140 --> 00:31:44,816
new. Yeah. No, And. And I. I do. I do, but I'm
521
00:31:44,848 --> 00:31:48,304
just. That's where you and I differ. That. That's where we balance. Because I have
522
00:31:48,312 --> 00:31:51,456
to sit back and I'm like, okay, you're a little too unforgiving. Yeah.
523
00:31:51,568 --> 00:31:54,352
And you should be. You should be laid back.
524
00:31:54,456 --> 00:31:57,300
My. My thing is, I just want to be laid back. To me, that's.
525
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,120
You're not very laid back in that. In that retrospect. Yeah. But I
526
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,592
also. Kind of uptight, but I also don't carry it with me.
527
00:32:04,696 --> 00:32:08,112
No, you don't. That's true. I don't carry it with me. So the only reason
528
00:32:08,136 --> 00:32:11,072
why I know about it is because we talk about it. Yeah. Because I know
529
00:32:11,096 --> 00:32:14,624
it. And. And. Yeah. So that's it. Like, I don't.
530
00:32:14,752 --> 00:32:18,288
I don't go around making mad faces at everybody. No.
531
00:32:18,344 --> 00:32:21,872
No. And you. You're cordial with everybody, and I'm very cordial with everybody.
532
00:32:22,016 --> 00:32:25,456
But I. As they say,
533
00:32:25,528 --> 00:32:28,944
they're not my enemies. But you keep your enemies very close.
534
00:32:29,032 --> 00:32:31,920
You still. You know what I mean? Like, you keep everybody close.
535
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,696
And then I also. I keep. Even if I don't like
536
00:32:35,768 --> 00:32:39,340
somebody or if I don't dig their vibe or whatever, and you do,
537
00:32:39,750 --> 00:32:43,210
I'm still going to be very sweet and I'm going to be very,
538
00:32:43,670 --> 00:32:46,878
very open to whatever you want to do.
539
00:32:46,934 --> 00:32:50,350
Like, you know, because we don't always like and people. And this is new
540
00:32:50,390 --> 00:32:53,902
for us because this. This is very odd for
541
00:32:53,926 --> 00:32:56,222
me. You know, I think I told you the other day, I was just like,
542
00:32:56,246 --> 00:32:59,246
man, this is. This is weird for me. I don't know how to take it
543
00:32:59,398 --> 00:33:03,230
because I'm not. I'm not used to it. I'm. I'm ready to be
544
00:33:03,270 --> 00:33:06,614
triggered. Like, I'm ready to hear you say something or.
545
00:33:06,742 --> 00:33:10,246
And you're also not having it yet. And you're also ready.
546
00:33:10,278 --> 00:33:13,542
If I don't like somebody for whatever reason, you're ready to throw the
547
00:33:13,566 --> 00:33:15,862
towel and be like, oh, I don't. Okay, fine. If you don't like them,
548
00:33:15,886 --> 00:33:19,334
then. And it's not even like that now. It's like, just because
549
00:33:19,422 --> 00:33:22,934
I don't like them or I don't care for
550
00:33:23,102 --> 00:33:26,102
whatever it is about them. And you do.
551
00:33:26,206 --> 00:33:29,606
Yeah. I'm going to be cordial, I'm going to be sweet, and I'm
552
00:33:29,638 --> 00:33:32,758
going to keep you at arm's length. Like, I'm going to.
553
00:33:32,814 --> 00:33:35,330
My husband likes you, so I'm going to keep you.
554
00:33:35,670 --> 00:33:39,422
Yeah. Cool. Yeah, you do you. And like I
555
00:33:39,446 --> 00:33:42,702
told you, the moment I see something, I'm be
556
00:33:42,726 --> 00:33:46,846
like, boom. Nah, you're. My husband's very sweet. He's very nice,
557
00:33:47,038 --> 00:33:49,934
but don't take advantage, you know? Yeah.
558
00:33:49,982 --> 00:33:53,778
My protectiveness comes in, but how could. Somebody take advantage of me,
559
00:33:53,824 --> 00:33:57,678
really? You're very sweet. You are the sweetest. I don't give anybody money.
560
00:33:57,814 --> 00:34:01,428
No. Just different ways, you know? You know.
561
00:34:01,484 --> 00:34:04,548
Oh, can you be my. I'm feeling down today.
562
00:34:04,604 --> 00:34:08,228
Can you be my little upper. Nah, nah, I don't really have that.
563
00:34:08,284 --> 00:34:11,396
You don't have. That was. That was when we were. Yeah. And so
564
00:34:11,468 --> 00:34:15,092
have changed. And you never know. Like, I just. That's just me.
565
00:34:15,276 --> 00:34:18,452
Yeah, that's just me. I get it. But I'm nice,
566
00:34:18,516 --> 00:34:21,812
so. You are. You know, I. And I give you. I give you a hard
567
00:34:21,836 --> 00:34:26,068
time, but you don't show those colors to everybody.
568
00:34:26,164 --> 00:34:30,020
No. The hard part for me, and this is something that I have to fix
569
00:34:30,100 --> 00:34:33,420
because internally, I'm always expecting it.
570
00:34:33,540 --> 00:34:37,180
The hard part is, is when you React certain ways.
571
00:34:37,340 --> 00:34:40,556
So if I tell, I'm trying to get more comfortable telling you if I'm interested
572
00:34:40,588 --> 00:34:44,460
in somebody or if there's somebody I want you. I'm getting there.
573
00:34:44,580 --> 00:34:47,788
Getting there. It's still very. And I've been very supportive and. You have.
574
00:34:47,844 --> 00:34:51,820
Yeah. But I always sit back and I'm like, waiting for
575
00:34:51,940 --> 00:34:54,636
a bad reaction. I'm waiting for you to go.
576
00:34:54,788 --> 00:34:57,750
Really? Why? You want to talk to them, you know, that sort of thing,
577
00:34:57,900 --> 00:35:00,770
which has always been the case. And you're not doing that anymore,
578
00:35:00,850 --> 00:35:04,670
I think, because I, I told you, like, when you do that, I feel
579
00:35:05,210 --> 00:35:08,258
like I shouldn't be pursuing this person or I shouldn't
580
00:35:08,274 --> 00:35:10,850
be talking to that person. Right. You know, because I know that you don't care
581
00:35:10,890 --> 00:35:14,018
for them, but. Yeah, no, I, I,
582
00:35:14,074 --> 00:35:18,578
I, you've been real great about that lately, and it's, it's, I'm just not used
583
00:35:18,634 --> 00:35:21,682
to it. It's funny. You don't know everybody. I don't care about.
584
00:35:21,866 --> 00:35:25,442
I don't. No. And it, it comes out
585
00:35:25,466 --> 00:35:28,898
at some point. You don't hold these things in. It comes
586
00:35:28,954 --> 00:35:31,630
out, you make comments. I'm holding it in.
587
00:35:32,570 --> 00:35:35,970
Yeah, I'm sure. Selectiveness. Very selective.
588
00:35:36,050 --> 00:35:39,442
Very selective. I'm selective who my honey's and I kiss and
589
00:35:39,466 --> 00:35:42,866
who he's not. Oh, my gosh. You know, I, I, I'm really,
590
00:35:42,938 --> 00:35:46,322
I'm not anymore. Like, it's, yeah, it's gotten. You said the other day,
591
00:35:46,346 --> 00:35:49,762
you were like, you know, you're an individual and you, you are what you want.
592
00:35:49,786 --> 00:35:53,470
I'm not gonna stop you. You. Yeah. And that was very big for me
593
00:35:53,510 --> 00:35:57,006
because I'm used to being told what I can and can't do.
594
00:35:57,078 --> 00:36:00,350
Yeah. I'm used to it. Yeah. Especially in the lifestyle. That's just,
595
00:36:00,390 --> 00:36:03,838
that was our rule. Yeah. And no, you're your own,
596
00:36:03,894 --> 00:36:06,462
your own person. You know what I. Like I told you. You know what I
597
00:36:06,486 --> 00:36:09,518
expect? Yeah. That person's gonna know what I expect.
598
00:36:09,654 --> 00:36:13,022
Yeah. And I, I reach out
599
00:36:13,046 --> 00:36:16,382
to whomever, whenever. You know what I
600
00:36:16,406 --> 00:36:19,364
mean? Like, if it's somebody that I know that you're interested in,
601
00:36:19,502 --> 00:36:22,712
I'm gonna reach out and catch the vibe. If I like the vibe or if
602
00:36:22,736 --> 00:36:25,960
I don't like the vibe, I'm, you know, I'm gonna let you make that decision
603
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,620
if you like it or you don't. But. Yeah. No.
604
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,060
Well, you know, that's pretty interesting. I tell you what, though,
605
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,528
you know, I think we figured out a lot as far as selectiveness.
606
00:36:37,624 --> 00:36:40,936
I just, I feel like it's okay. I feel like it's okay to be selective.
607
00:36:40,968 --> 00:36:44,008
It's okay to want what you want. Don't let anybody shame
608
00:36:44,024 --> 00:36:47,678
you on that. Don't let anybody shame you on that. Nope. Unless it's
609
00:36:47,694 --> 00:36:51,630
your husband and they're on the podcast. Yeah, that's okay.
610
00:36:51,790 --> 00:36:55,438
That's okay. That's okay. That's right. And he'll just say, you shame me. I just
611
00:36:55,574 --> 00:36:58,974
do it. We're good. I'm gonna shame you after you eat that carrot cake.
612
00:36:59,022 --> 00:37:02,446
You see my little cupcake sitting? We started the podcast and I just ate
613
00:37:02,478 --> 00:37:06,990
the little cupcake. I know. Don't eat no more. I made the best carrot cupcakes.
614
00:37:07,070 --> 00:37:10,558
Yes. For Easter. It was wonderful. And with that,
615
00:37:10,614 --> 00:37:13,948
I. I hope all of you had a great holiday weekend.
616
00:37:14,134 --> 00:37:18,112
We are all recovering from that ourselves, but we
617
00:37:18,296 --> 00:37:21,664
are getting through the week, and I'm hoping to
618
00:37:21,752 --> 00:37:25,632
see some of you guys this weekend because there's a big old event
619
00:37:25,736 --> 00:37:29,216
happening down in San Antonio that we're going to be attending,
620
00:37:29,408 --> 00:37:32,608
and I think there's going to be a good amount of people there. Yeah,
621
00:37:32,624 --> 00:37:36,192
we're celebrating a friend's birthday. We're celebrating a couple of friends.
622
00:37:36,296 --> 00:37:39,360
A couple of friends birthdays. So we'll be staying the night down there.
623
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,716
But, you know, hopefully we get to see some of you guys this weekend.
624
00:37:42,748 --> 00:37:45,948
That would be nice. But with that, we're going to go ahead and sign off
625
00:37:46,004 --> 00:37:49,452
here for our Wednesday quickie. We're going to say thank you very much
626
00:37:49,476 --> 00:37:53,020
for joining us, as always, and we will see you next week.