Empowerment or Objectification: The Hot Wife Culture Debate

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Hello and welcome to another episode of Beyond Monogamy. I'm Adam.

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And I'm Priz. And pull up a chair, because today

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we're talking about a very specific topic.

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Okay, hold on. Oh, that's me. You're in a roller coaster ride.

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You strapping in? I was dragging the chair. I didn't guess

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that. Today we are talking about hot

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wife culture. Uhhuh. Is it empowerment

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or object. Objectification.

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Objectification. Objectification.

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That's a really good topic, isn't it?

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Yes. In it. Because I feel like I've been

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on both sides. Have you? Yeah.

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Which one shall we start with? So, because for. For those that don't

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know, you know, that's. That's kind of my king.

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Wait, first of all, what is hot wife? Hot wife

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is essentially where the

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wife goes and plays with whomever,

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guy or girl, and she can

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basically have her pick of whoever she wants to play with, and the guy

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either watches or doesn't watch.

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But it. You know, it's. It's. It's kind of part of the.

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They reclaim afterwards. You know what I mean? Okay,

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so you're sending your wife off to have sex with other people,

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but you're not there. That. There's two different aspects of it.

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You can. You can still. You can be there, or you can not

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be there. Okay, but. So it's not like Cuckold. It's not

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like Cuckold because cuckold has humiliation.

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Oh. So, like. Okay, is there a thing called hot husband?

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No, but I. I believe it's referred to as a stag.

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So, like, for you to watch me, like, for. For this to

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be the opposite, because it's called hot wife. Oh, the opposite for.

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Okay, I got you. I. You know, I don't know the exact name, but I've.

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I've always heard of it as cuck queen. Is.

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Is. Is if you.

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Yes. Yeah. Okay. I like.

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I like. This is a really good topic. Yeah. Yeah. Well,

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you know, because realistically, when it comes to

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the kink, you know, it's like, you hear a

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lot about it, you see a lot about it. There's a lot of it referred

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to in. In porn. And I don't

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know, it's. You don't really think about it being objectifying.

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Yeah. But I guess, in a way, it could be.

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So explain to me what objectifying is.

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It's like, when you kind of.

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Is it, like, shaming it? No, it's me. It's.

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No, if we're objectifying you, we're looking at

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you as an object.

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I'm not a person. Yeah. Oh, wow. You know what I'm saying?

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I think I did that to myself. You're more of, like, a sexual

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toy. Yeah. I think I created that in my head myself.

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Yeah. Yeah. How's that? Well,

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I always just put myself. I would, like, remove myself from

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situations and make myself

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kind of disassociate. Okay. And so I

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was just. Yeah, that's true. You. Yeah, I was just a

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vessel. Right. You know, and I didn't do it with you. Well,

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no, you didn't do it with me. But when we. Well, when we first started

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playing. That's what I'm saying. Well, I mean, like, like, it would happen when

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we would play. Like, it wasn't. I didn't think you were objectifying me.

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I gotcha. I got that clear. So. Yeah, but yeah,

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no, I put myself in that, and I would create. Like, I was just a

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vessel, and we were just doing this

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because I had such guilt.

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Okay. And so it just, I don't know,

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put me in a weird spot. It was weird.

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So, yeah, I mean, I made myself feel like that.

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But, like, is it. Is it objectifying

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or is it empowerment? Because, you know,

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I mean it realistically. Like, in our situation,

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for example,

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it's. You sleep with who you want to sleep

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with. Right. Like, I'm not pushing you out there to sleep with

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somebody you don't want to sleep with for the sake of our kink.

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I'm just telling you. Go ahead.

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Right. If you find somebody attractive, if you find a couple attractive,

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whatever. Right. You don't need me there. Do your thing

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and tell me about it. Yeah. Share with me

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some of the stuff y'all talk about. Let me see some conversations.

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It's my kink. Like, I dig that's your thing. Yeah.

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But that's the way it is now.

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But I, I, I might be able to sit back and

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say, just looking at it now, that maybe the early

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years were more objectifying. Yeah.

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Because I did set up a lot of these people to

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Come. And these were people that you didn't know.

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Yeah. And, you know, you literally said,

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you only did it for me. Yeah. Which if that's,

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you know, I mean, looking at it, that's. That's essentially. That's. Then that's what it

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is. So really, there was two different signs to it, huh? Yeah.

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And, I mean, I didn't. I wasn't.

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I was cool with it, as I'm sure it happens to a lot

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of couples, especially in the beginning, and you don't realize it. Yeah. You know.

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Yeah. So, I mean, if we're doing. If you're

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doing something for your partner, you're just

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creating yourself as an object. So do, you know, in different ways,

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different scenarios, but still. Yeah. You know,

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in a lot of the journey

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of it, I. I think it takes most people a while to reach

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that point where they're able to sit back and go,

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yeah, no, I don't want to do that. Yeah. And they could tell their spouse,

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nah, I'm not feeling that. Yeah. I feel like

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everybody that first comes in really struggles to find

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their voice, to vocalize and know and be comfortable and

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be comfortable, even with a lot of people. Yeah. Because a lot of people

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do. I mean, they start coming out with different things. Yeah. But. Yeah.

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Yeah. And so, like, I'm sure there's a lot of people out

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there that when they first get into it, they're just afraid to say,

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yeah, no, I don't want to do that, because they don't want to appear to

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be a stick in the mud or. Yeah. They don't want to ruin anybody's fun

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or anything like that. It just ends up being a. A bad experience,

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you know, because of that. And you had several bad experiences.

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Oh, I had lots. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,

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yeah. I mean, definitely been there.

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But now it's very much empowerment.

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Yeah. For sure. Because now I know

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what I want, how I want it, with whom

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I want it, and it

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makes me feel okay. I'm running

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my own show, you know, I mean, you're still. Of course I

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respect you. Yeah. But, yeah, I. It's. And I

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feel like that's even empowered me to let loose on you.

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So, I mean, this is our relationship, and this is. Whatever it

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is. I don't. I'm sorry if I. Sorry. Not sorry.

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So you are mine. Sure.

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And I am yours. Like, that has always been what we are.

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I belong to you, you belong to me. We give each other that respect.

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And so I'm in this spot where it's kind

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of like, I know. I Got you. You're not going

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anywhere. Right. And so I've always known that,

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but now I see it way differently.

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Like, I see it like I'm a chingona. Like, you're not gonna go anywhere.

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Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, and so that gives

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me even more empowerment.

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Sure. Lets me be loose with you and be

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like, go ahead. Like, we just. Like, just recently,

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I. What. What did we talk about? That. Oh, that you didn't

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have to run. Just let me know who you're talking to or what's happening.

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Right. But, like, if there's somebody you want to play with by yourself,

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like, there used to be such protocol. Right,

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Right. Well, you know, everything's happened in stages. Yeah. You know,

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little baby steps here and there, so. And it's like. Yeah. And. And now

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you're at the point where it's like, you know, you're good. Yeah.

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And I think. Well, I know that that came from,

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of course, a lot of reassurance from you. I mean, you have put

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in the work, homie. High five to Adam. Like.

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Yeah. You put in the work, and there's still a lot

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of work. Yeah. But you've gotten this far in

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the little tests of life with me and have

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succeeded. Hey, works for me. I got no complaints.

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Dude. There was only two. Two before you, and they both

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failed. Yeah. You know, it's. It's really doesn't.

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You don't ask a whole lot. No. And so the fact

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that they failed just kind of says a lot about them. I know a lot,

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and I'm really very lenient. Like, it's not.

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It's not. It's not this big old deal that it's like, oh,

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you didn't do this, and you do that. Right. So I do

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see now that it's very. It's very empowering.

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Yeah. Like, you're not gonna go anywhere. Yeah.

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You know. Well. And you know what's funny is,

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initially, when we started, the hot wife

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kink was pretty much mine. Yes.

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You did it for me. Yes. There. There was really no question about

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it. Like, you were going through the motions because you

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knew it was my kink. Yeah. Yeah. But I think now

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we share that kink. We do. So I love to

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sit back and watch you. And if you have a bag of

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chips and a Dutch rose next to me, even better.

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Like, I love you, and I love having sex with

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you. I mean, you know every inch of my body. Yeah.

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It's. And you have a high sex drive. I do sometimes.

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It's exhausting. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure for you.

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I'm sure it is exhausting. You know, 14 years,

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and it's. It's. It's exhausting. And so I'm like, if I

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can have somebody who's into it, and y'all

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are having that connection, and y'all don't mind me just sitting back, drinking my coffee,

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eating my chips. Yeah. Scrolling.

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Let me be. Yeah. You know, I mean, we've only had that

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a few times where we've. We've been with, like, a. A couple

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where. Or. No, it was only once we were with a couple,

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and she had a high sex drive, and I

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had a high sex drive, and you and the guy

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were, you know, able. Y'all went off to

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the side to. To smoke, and I

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stayed in the bed with her, and we just kept on going, and, like,

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we went round after round and then. But we were right there,

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and y'all. Were sitting right next to the bed. We were just chilling on the

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side of the bed, talking about weed. Yeah.

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And all this good stuff. And I was like, oh,

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dude. You know. Yeah. And I was completely

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fine. And that's because I wasn't even where I'm at now.

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Yeah. You know, I love to watch, and I

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love. I love. I mean, I literally just this

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past weekend, sat down on my. On this beautiful chair and

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watched, and I was like, oh, yeah. Oh, this is relaxing.

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Yeah. You know, I totally could have got my phone. I just want to be

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in the presence. Like, I want to see every now and then I can glance

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and then, you know, like a commercial. Yeah. Wow.

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Yeah. You know, and, you know, it was funny because she.

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You know, we. We went several. You know, we went several rounds.

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And it's funny because I.

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I know you're used to that, but it's always

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funny to see somebody else. Yeah. Figure that out

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and be like, oh, okay. More. Yeah,

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yeah, yeah. She was a champ. She was. She was a champ.

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But I'm like, yeah, after all, like, yeah, both of y'all got

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to take breaks at some point. Yeah. I was like,

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tag, you're it. Yeah. I'm gonna go check on the

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dogs while I go over there and eat a piece of chocolate.

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Like, no, I mean, it is. And so it is

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nice to finally be comfortable enough

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to kind of sit back and be like, okay,

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go ahead. Yeah, do whatever. I mean, you know,

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we're still. We're very respectful to each other, so I'm very

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much more comfortable and, for sure, very much

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empowered. That's good. And I'm not an I'm not.

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I'm more. I'm like. I'm like that only with you.

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Right. But like, I'm not that. I'm not too. Where it's

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like, oh, I can go get any, man.

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I'm so empowered. Oh, I'm my. Oh, I got you. No,

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no, no, Nothing like that. This is more.

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More towards you. I got you my empowerment. Yeah, yeah. But it

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does also give me more confidence. Yeah.

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Yeah. So I'm much more confident

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and I think people genuinely like me.

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Yeah. And so with that newfound confidence,

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how do you feel it's changed how you

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interact with everybody now?

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I'm more. I'm more talkative now. I more. Now I'm

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more approachable. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I'm chatting

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with people and it's like, okay. You know,

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and it's nice. Yeah. You know, there are.

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Eh. I don't. I don't.

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I talk to everybody. Sure. So, like, I'm. I'm just chatting

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it up with everybody. Like, it's just different people and it's.

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It's cool. Everybody brings something different to the table. Yeah. You know, that's what I've

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always figured. You know what I like most of all is that

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you're seen more on an individual level now.

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Yeah. Than as us as a couple. Not your object

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anymore. You were never my object,

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Let me tell you. No.

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We've always been known as an inseparable couple.

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We didn't have our individual identities. We were.

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You did more. Well, see, I was. I guess when the two

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of us were together, you took over. I was a bit more of

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a stronger personality. Yeah. And,

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yeah, I. I normally would hijack conversations.

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It wasn't really. It wasn't out of any other reason except that that's how

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I dealt with my anxiety. Most of the time. I was anxious and it's like,

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okay, I'll just keep on talking, talking, talking.

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But it's nice to see you finally

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hold your own. Because I remember when we first started going to

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events and stuff, and you were like, I can't have

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conversation with people. Yeah. Without you. Yeah.

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Like, what would I talk about? Yeah. Now if I separate from

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you, you're like, where'd you go? Why'd you go? What happened? And it's like,

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I was just talking. Hey, man, you make me watch a

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lot of datelines. You need to tell me when you're going to go somewhere.

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So you're like, what? Where. Where are you? Yeah, just tell me where you are.

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Shoot me a text. I just got to make sure you're okay. But. Yeah.

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So now. Yeah. Individual. Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

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And that's awesome, man. It is. It is very nice.

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It's. It is empowering. Let me

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tell you why I like it. Okay. Tell me. I like it because

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for the longest time. And this is going to sound. I'm. I guess I'm a.

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I don't know. I'm just very honest, though. Baby, you said

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the most up things on this podcast. Everybody thinks

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you're the. So just go. Okay. Well, anyways,

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so essentially,

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what's. What's happened since

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we started the podcast and everything like that.

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You. You've been able to find that

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individual. The me comes out. The. You come

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out. Because this is me. Yeah. And a lot of people don't get to see

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this. Exactly. And so I have told people for so

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long how great you are.

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Like, I sing your praises to everybody. Yeah. To everybody. I gave

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you the script. Good. And people. People like me. And then they go,

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well, I like him. His wife's got to be incredible. Right.

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And then they would meet you and sometimes

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your nerves would be high or. Yeah. Or, you know, you just weren't feeling

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it or the sun was in your eyes or whatever.

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There was always something. Yeah. That just

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kind of took you out of the moment or you weren't feeling it or

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you were. You were mentally exhausted. Yeah. You could definitely.

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And so I was always the one to control and lead the conversation

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and stuff like that. Now I don't have to do that anymore.

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No. And now when I tell people

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she's a really great person, once you meet her, you. You. You'll meet her,

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you'll talk to her. You'll love her. Yeah. And people are realizing

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that now because they're talking to you. Yeah. And they're

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realizing she's. She's pretty cool.

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You know, She's. She's cool. I am. Yeah.

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You are a groovy chick, man. No, it's definitely giving me more confidence

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and. Yeah. And like my separation. Not separate, I guess.

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Separation. Like I can be. I can go to the meet and greets and

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meet people. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Like, it's not. It's me.

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It's not. Oh, I'm this. I'm Priscilla. My husband's

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Adam. Like, it's like Adam and Priscilla or, you know. Right.

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It's. It's like, oh, Priscilla, hey, where's your husband? You know

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what I mean? Like, it's. We don't know. We're not always together.

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Yeah. Now it's like, it's getting to that point where

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it's like, okay, you can go this way.

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We can go this way. We'll meet. But you know what's funny is when we

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first started going to the events, you and I would be

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basically arm in arm somewhere. Yeah. We would not

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move without each other. Yeah. And we would watch these

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people and we would. We would meet all of these people and.

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And we would meet a guy, and he'd be like, yeah, yeah, I'm so.

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And so. Oh, yeah, I'm so and so's husband. Yeah.

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Oh, yeah. Where's your wife? Oh, she's somewhere over there across the

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room. And, you know, we. Or we'd see these couples show up, and they would

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immediately split up and they be in different areas. Yeah. And we would

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be like, oh, my God. How do they do that? What. What is going on?

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How can they. And then one day, we were like, okay, we really need to

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try and figure out how to break this codependency

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we have on each other. Because it's

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great. It's great that we have each other as best friends. I mean, it's great

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because there's nobody I want to talk to first when

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something great happens, when there's. I have something going on, like, you're the

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first person I have to call. And. And so

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I think that's great. But at the same time, I think our dependency on each

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other was almost unhealthy, you know?

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I mean. Yeah. Because people don't know, like, that's.

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That's us. Yeah. Like,

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now we can go ahead and we can do, like, when we're out, we.

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We are okay with doing, like, yeah, you go this way, I go that way.

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It's taken a lot to get there. But it's taken a lot to get there.

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And in our real life,

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we have not stopped that. No. No, not at

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all. Like, it's hard. I just went somewhere, to a party,

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and it was. It was just like a toy party.

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And you went out. Yeah.

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And was that hard for you?

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Like, just the. Because you were planning on staying home. I was planning on

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staying home, so. It was hard for me, but I. Needed to get out.

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Yeah, it was hard for me. It wasn't hard for me because you weren't home.

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So being that you were doing something, it was easy for me.

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You know what I'm saying? But if I knew you were home. Yeah, it would

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have been hard for me. Yeah. You know, because that's our time together.

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It was hard for me to leave. But it was

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hard for you. To leave because you didn't know if I was gonna go do

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anything. So I thought I was gonna stay home. Oh, that's right.

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And I. Oh, that's right. Yeah. And then. And then I asked if it was.

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So I was over there. I was like, oh, he's just gonna be home.

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And so it was. It was. But it was hard for me to leave because

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I was like, dang, man. And we're. We were at it all

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morning. Yeah. Up until I left. Like, you made

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me late. Well, yeah, that's right. We were having a lot of sex. Yes.

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And so I was like, man, I don't want to leave. Yeah, that was a

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good. That was a good morning. Yeah. And then we

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had more sex. And then we had a lot more sex. Yeah. Wow. That was

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a busy weekend for us. This definitely is very empowering.

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That's cool, though. I like that. I like that.

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Yeah. Because. Well, you know. And I mean, do you feel like an object?

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I've never, ever been able to say

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that I felt like an object. Like, I'm just using you for.

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No. Yeah. No, I can't say

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that. I mean, you've. So I will say I use you as an

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object sometimes because I want, like,

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dick. Well, just any body part.

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Yeah. So even, like, I have to.

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I make the bed a certain way, and I lay you a certain way

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so that I could lay on top of you, and I can get my pinches

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and my rubbies. Yeah. And my. So I can go to sleep.

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Yeah. So I am. I am quite utilitarian. Yeah. So I

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use you as an object, and I definitely sometimes use your dick

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as an object. As an object. But I've never made. I've never,

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you know, objectified you. I feel like I did once at a party.

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Somebody. We're walking out, we were done, and somebody said,

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oh, is Priscilla. Can I. Can I have him?

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And then I was like, oh, honey. Yes. I. Yeah, hold on. I took you

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to the bathroom. I said, can you clean up a little bit and then go

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to that room over there? I'm gonna go downstairs. Oh, yeah, that's right.

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And I went downstairs. Oh. And I sat there

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and I gossiped and I ate and

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got some water. And then I went. You passed her off

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to me like. I was your toy. And then you went from one. When I

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went back upstairs, I was like, are they good? And the husband's

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like, oh, yeah, they're good. I was like, okay. I mean,

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yeah, no, I have definitely objectified you. Do you feel empowered?

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Well, you know, it doesn't, I don't. If I was objectified,

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it doesn't happen enough to make me feel bad as,

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as a fella, As a fella who never really got

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that sort of treatment. Yeah, Yeah. I think I

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kind of cool, you know. Well, for anybody who's asking

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for it. Yeah, you are. That's cool. You know, so I didn't think about that

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in that way. Yeah. But yeah, I mean on, on the level definition

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ways. Yeah, I, I guess I was objectified, but I, it,

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that one didn't bother me. Y'all should see the face he's giving

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me. It's very smoldering. Yeah.

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No way. That's right. You're my.

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Hey, who wants them? Take a number. Damn, girl,

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bring it down. You know. But do I,

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do I ever feel empowered? Yeah.

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No, no, no. Do men feel empowered like that?

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I wonder? Well, it's like, I wonder, is it. More like necessarily

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that. Well, I'm. Because like when it comes to

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the lifestyle, in almost every aspect of

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it, it is woman centric. And this

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is something that we've explained to women who were new to the lifestyle

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is that you have the power. I mean,

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not to be so crass, but you have the power of the pussy. Oh,

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yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. And that gives

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you so much to work with. You know, you can say no,

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you can be a, you can do this and that you

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can do. You can go off the hinges and people will still

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be there because they want you. Yeah. You know what I

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mean? Yeah. That's the lifestyle. You know,

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Even at your worst,

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you're still pulling. Yeah. You know what I mean? I gotcha. Whereas so

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you see, it's very difficult. I don't, I do not see it that way.

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But I sure as hell don't care.

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Yeah. I will tell you that I have reached out to

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couples that I would never reach out to.

425
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Yeah. Like them's too hot.

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Yeah. But I'm like,

427
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no, it's cool because I think we're hot. Well, see,

428
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that's the thing. Okay. Because that's. Or when someone

429
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puts on there. So like I won't, I won't reach

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out to anybody who puts. I want a fit woman or somebody

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who takes care of them, their bodies or whatever. And it's like, man,

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I'm sure that person really wants a non ignorant person in their

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life, you know, that's, that's the thing about it. Yeah.

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So. Yeah, I, I just don't,

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I don't know if I, I feel like hot is a State of mind.

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Like, physically sexy. Physically attractive.

437
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Yeah. You know, I, I don't know. I find different

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people physically attractive in different ways. Yeah,

439
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but. But I'm saying, are there people that you would. Like,

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they, like, they look pretty. Like, they look like they'd be on a.

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A higher tier. Yeah. I mean,

442
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come on, guys. I'm sure a lot of y'all do the tier thing. I mean,

443
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let's be. Yeah, no, let's be realistic here. Real. We don't do that.

444
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Real talk. They're, they're. I mean, everybody kind of views

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things in a. A tier system,

446
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I'm sure. And it's like, you know, there's. There's the top

447
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1% and then there's the rest of us. You know what I mean?

448
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You know, but like, so I would not every. I don't.

449
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I don't ever reach out or even, like, comment on people when

450
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I don't know if I. I used to feel like they were less, like,

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too pretty for me to be talking to, but I think I'm pretty.

452
00:27:31,660 --> 00:27:34,700
Well, see, and I think you're hot. And that's what. I think that,

453
00:27:34,740 --> 00:27:38,044
that goes away afterwards. So that's. Most people think of this kind of

454
00:27:38,132 --> 00:27:41,692
tier thing, but it's not really in. In existence.

455
00:27:41,756 --> 00:27:44,812
And, and this was something we were talking about the other day, is that when

456
00:27:44,836 --> 00:27:47,948
we first got into it, we thought of, oh, man,

457
00:27:48,084 --> 00:27:52,092
you know, we're on the. We're on the bottom rung of this ladder and

458
00:27:52,116 --> 00:27:55,516
there's so many different. And it can be fighting experience also.

459
00:27:55,588 --> 00:27:59,100
Like, yeah, we are. And that was a lot of. As the time went

460
00:27:59,140 --> 00:28:03,298
on and, and, you know, we started getting to know a lot of these people.

461
00:28:03,484 --> 00:28:06,598
There were people that we felt were unattainable.

462
00:28:06,774 --> 00:28:10,678
Yes. And unattainable. As time went on, we met

463
00:28:10,734 --> 00:28:14,566
everybody and then we realized those quote unquote

464
00:28:14,598 --> 00:28:18,970
unattainable people were not necessarily unattainable.

465
00:28:19,550 --> 00:28:23,270
We were thinking they were unattainable. We were creating this own

466
00:28:23,310 --> 00:28:27,190
barrier because. We both had very self. Low. Low self esteem.

467
00:28:27,270 --> 00:28:32,262
Yeah. Yeah. Low self image. Yeah. Yeah. And so.

468
00:28:32,286 --> 00:28:36,102
Yeah. So this hot wife,

469
00:28:36,166 --> 00:28:40,006
kink, whatever, has definitely empowered

470
00:28:40,038 --> 00:28:44,262
and has definitely made me feel very sexy.

471
00:28:44,406 --> 00:28:46,450
Yeah, I feel very.

472
00:28:47,070 --> 00:28:50,982
Yeah, I feel sexy. I mean, that's all I can pretty much

473
00:28:51,086 --> 00:28:54,662
explain to it because although you like

474
00:28:54,686 --> 00:28:58,148
to share me and you allow me to do all the stuff

475
00:28:58,164 --> 00:29:02,100
that we do, the way you hold me and the way you present me

476
00:29:02,140 --> 00:29:05,636
makes me feel even, like, sexier. Oh,

477
00:29:05,668 --> 00:29:09,316
man, I don't know how I couldn't. You Are hottie, man.

478
00:29:09,468 --> 00:29:12,900
Like, you're dead. But you know what I mean? Like, that just gives you more.

479
00:29:13,020 --> 00:29:17,076
Makes me feel more empowered. Yeah. And more sexy

480
00:29:17,108 --> 00:29:20,932
and more like. Yeah, yeah, go. You go.

481
00:29:20,956 --> 00:29:24,694
Go have fun, baby. Yeah. Or I'm gonna go have some fun. You just

482
00:29:24,702 --> 00:29:27,638
sit right here. I'll be right back. You know, like. Like that.

483
00:29:27,694 --> 00:29:31,174
That's. That's hot. And then knowing that I don't have to

484
00:29:31,182 --> 00:29:33,810
be so insecure about,

485
00:29:34,430 --> 00:29:37,970
one, the way I'm feeling, and two,

486
00:29:38,670 --> 00:29:42,374
I don't have to feel like I'm insecure

487
00:29:42,422 --> 00:29:45,318
and like, I'm leaving you there. You know what I mean? Like, stuff like that.

488
00:29:45,374 --> 00:29:48,518
Yeah. And. And. Or like, who are you gonna talk to when I'm

489
00:29:48,534 --> 00:29:51,146
gone or. You know what I mean? So that used to be a major,

490
00:29:51,218 --> 00:29:54,634
major word. It is. Like, you and I already. We've.

491
00:29:54,682 --> 00:29:58,186
We've already talked so much that we're

492
00:29:58,218 --> 00:30:01,818
on the same page. Yeah. You know, we understand.

493
00:30:01,954 --> 00:30:05,802
Things happen. We're very. We're on the same page.

494
00:30:05,866 --> 00:30:09,290
Yeah. We have good communication. You're not going anywhere.

495
00:30:09,370 --> 00:30:12,922
No, I'm not going anywhere. And that's the best part about all

496
00:30:12,946 --> 00:30:16,242
this, is that we can do whatever it is that we

497
00:30:16,266 --> 00:30:19,650
agree we can do, and we don't have to worry about it ever

498
00:30:19,690 --> 00:30:23,314
affecting our relationship as long as we play within the boundaries.

499
00:30:23,362 --> 00:30:26,450
Yeah. And we're respectful to each other. Yeah. Do you know what I mean?

500
00:30:26,490 --> 00:30:29,634
Like, so things like that definitely

501
00:30:29,682 --> 00:30:33,630
started from the hot wife thing and then just kind of opened up different

502
00:30:34,010 --> 00:30:37,250
feelings and. And, you know,

503
00:30:37,290 --> 00:30:41,402
just different feelings. And so which gives you more empowerment

504
00:30:41,466 --> 00:30:45,258
or. For me, it has given me more empowerment. So now would you say that's

505
00:30:45,274 --> 00:30:49,002
something that only comes with time, or is it more of, like,

506
00:30:49,026 --> 00:30:52,378
an emotional maturity? Like, what.

507
00:30:52,514 --> 00:30:56,154
What brings you there? Was it the amount of time that we've been doing this?

508
00:30:56,242 --> 00:30:59,642
No. So for me, was definitely the emotional maturity.

509
00:30:59,706 --> 00:31:03,050
Maturity, for sure. You had to grow

510
00:31:03,090 --> 00:31:07,332
up a little bit. I had to grow up a little bit because you

511
00:31:07,356 --> 00:31:10,996
and I are very happy. We could take this lifestyle and

512
00:31:11,068 --> 00:31:14,836
still be exceptionally happy. Yeah. And be very

513
00:31:14,988 --> 00:31:18,852
understanding and trusting of each other. Do you know what

514
00:31:18,876 --> 00:31:22,596
I mean? Like, it is. It's. That's just the way it is.

515
00:31:22,668 --> 00:31:25,720
So it's definitely. Yeah.

516
00:31:26,060 --> 00:31:29,732
I forgot the question. Dude. That's funny. What was

517
00:31:29,756 --> 00:31:33,342
the question? Because I had a really good answer. Would you say it's.

518
00:31:33,406 --> 00:31:37,054
Well, you were saying that it was emotional maturity as to why you.

519
00:31:37,222 --> 00:31:40,190
Because. Yes, because how I feel empowered. Yeah.

520
00:31:40,270 --> 00:31:43,966
Because. So definitely. Because I

521
00:31:44,038 --> 00:31:48,094
felt really. I think that jealousy is. You're always gonna

522
00:31:48,142 --> 00:31:51,966
be jealous. Like, it's. It's envious. It's. It's just something that's inside

523
00:31:52,078 --> 00:31:55,614
of me, like. Well, see, that's. And that's something that I'm.

524
00:31:55,662 --> 00:31:58,984
I was curious about too, is as far as your jealousies,

525
00:31:59,032 --> 00:32:02,520
because let me tell you, I mean, they were bad. They were

526
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,312
really bad for. For several years. Still are. Well, are they?

527
00:32:06,416 --> 00:32:09,784
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So what's the difference

528
00:32:09,912 --> 00:32:13,224
now? The maturity. Yeah. I can talk myself.

529
00:32:13,352 --> 00:32:17,060
I can understand the situation and

530
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,112
mature enough to bring it to the table.

531
00:32:21,256 --> 00:32:25,154
Yeah. And talk to you. And if you're

532
00:32:25,202 --> 00:32:28,818
talking at me when I'm talking about it, I'm mature enough to say,

533
00:32:28,874 --> 00:32:31,830
all right, we're going to touch this another time. Yeah.

534
00:32:33,210 --> 00:32:35,922
So, yeah, definitely. Maturity, for sure.

535
00:32:36,026 --> 00:32:39,730
Yeah. I mean, I still get jealous. I still

536
00:32:39,770 --> 00:32:43,058
get. Do you? Oh, yeah. I still get jealous about the little

537
00:32:43,114 --> 00:32:46,818
things. And it's. I could talk

538
00:32:46,874 --> 00:32:50,426
myself out of it, but sometimes it's like, nah, we're gonna hash

539
00:32:50,458 --> 00:32:53,658
this out. Yeah. You know, and be like, we're gonna

540
00:32:53,674 --> 00:32:56,730
have to figure this one out. It's too much. Yeah.

541
00:32:56,890 --> 00:33:00,442
I haven't gotten, like, the big, Big, like, go to the

542
00:33:00,466 --> 00:33:03,466
shower, cry myself. Gosh, I hope you never do.

543
00:33:03,618 --> 00:33:07,114
No. Geez. I'm mature

544
00:33:07,162 --> 00:33:10,490
enough. Yeah. To tell you how I feel. Yeah. Well, you.

545
00:33:10,530 --> 00:33:14,138
And you know that. That takes a lot. Yeah. That takes a lot. That takes

546
00:33:14,154 --> 00:33:18,244
a lot of trust. It does. And no disrespect,

547
00:33:18,292 --> 00:33:21,508
I'm mature enough to bring it to the table, and I do not care what

548
00:33:21,564 --> 00:33:25,028
happens. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Because even I'm

549
00:33:25,044 --> 00:33:28,612
okay with you disagreeing. I'm okay with you agreeing.

550
00:33:28,756 --> 00:33:32,276
Like, I'm mature enough. I'm mature enough to understand, like, okay,

551
00:33:32,308 --> 00:33:35,124
we're going to disagree. Plus, you know me.

552
00:33:35,212 --> 00:33:38,628
Yeah. You can pretty much predict most of the time

553
00:33:38,684 --> 00:33:41,932
how I'm going to react to things. Yes. Just the same

554
00:33:41,956 --> 00:33:45,080
way as I know how you're gonna react a lot of times to things.

555
00:33:45,460 --> 00:33:49,036
So, I mean, it gets easier for us. It gets easier with time

556
00:33:49,108 --> 00:33:52,604
as well. I mean, it's. It's. I mean, you gotta

557
00:33:52,652 --> 00:33:56,252
process it has. You put in the work. Yeah. You know, you put in the

558
00:33:56,276 --> 00:33:59,692
work and I let go of the reins. Yeah. And so we have to

559
00:33:59,716 --> 00:34:02,220
meet in the middle. It is a good place to be at now. I.

560
00:34:02,260 --> 00:34:05,916
I just wonder, are there couples out there who maybe

561
00:34:05,948 --> 00:34:09,824
have reached this spot that we're at much

562
00:34:09,912 --> 00:34:13,616
earlier? I'm sure there are. Sure. Because it's a.

563
00:34:13,688 --> 00:34:17,312
It's an emotional maturity. Yeah. Somebody like,

564
00:34:17,336 --> 00:34:21,200
so, like, I feel like you're emotionally mature way

565
00:34:21,240 --> 00:34:24,544
more than I was. Like, you have. You got there a long time ago.

566
00:34:24,632 --> 00:34:27,920
Yeah. You know, you've gotten better at it.

567
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,328
But for sure, you. You were here at some point.

568
00:34:31,464 --> 00:34:34,892
Yeah. But, I mean, you passed me up a

569
00:34:34,916 --> 00:34:37,756
long time ago. You know, I don't know why.

570
00:34:37,908 --> 00:34:41,500
Yeah. I don't know why. I feel

571
00:34:41,620 --> 00:34:45,400
like you. You understand

572
00:34:45,860 --> 00:34:48,700
situations. Yeah. Right.

573
00:34:48,820 --> 00:34:51,800
And you know how to explain them.

574
00:34:52,500 --> 00:34:55,868
Now, are you explaining them so that I

575
00:34:55,924 --> 00:34:59,600
learn, or are you explaining them to manipulate the situation?

576
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,976
You know what I mean? Like, you have to be. You teeter. Totter on that.

577
00:35:04,128 --> 00:35:07,368
Where. Where is he going? Where is this going? Right. But it's always

578
00:35:07,424 --> 00:35:10,200
been for the education part. Right.

579
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,400
Right. You know, it's. You know what's funny is I didn't always do

580
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,432
that. And I, I, you know, if I look at

581
00:35:17,456 --> 00:35:21,208
it, I want to say I

582
00:35:21,264 --> 00:35:25,000
probably we started having this moment where

583
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,642
I. I stopped reacting whenever you would

584
00:35:28,746 --> 00:35:32,130
say certain things. Yeah. And I decided I was

585
00:35:32,170 --> 00:35:35,362
going to try and calmly explain myself.

586
00:35:35,506 --> 00:35:39,138
Yes. And what my motives were or what I thought about

587
00:35:39,194 --> 00:35:42,722
the situation. Yeah. And I didn't

588
00:35:42,866 --> 00:35:46,258
know if it was gonna do any good, but I just knew that me

589
00:35:46,314 --> 00:35:49,218
being reactive was not working.

590
00:35:49,354 --> 00:35:53,380
Right. You know, because you would. You would just ask a simple question,

591
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,512
and it would put me in react mode, and I'd get real defensive

592
00:35:57,576 --> 00:36:00,660
because I'm like, I. I know what's coming, you know?

593
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,280
And instead of reacting like that, I said,

594
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,912
I'm just gonna just be calm, and I'm just gonna just tell

595
00:36:07,936 --> 00:36:11,400
her. I'm just gonna tell her how I feel. I'm gonna be completely open about

596
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,568
it, and we'll see where it goes from there.

597
00:36:14,624 --> 00:36:18,280
And I remember the. We were driving down the freeway the first time

598
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,520
that I did. Did that, and I was expecting a fight,

599
00:36:23,060 --> 00:36:26,572
and you stopped and you were like, you sat there for a

600
00:36:26,596 --> 00:36:30,316
little bit, and you sat there and I could see you processing,

601
00:36:30,348 --> 00:36:34,012
and then you said, I. I like. I like how

602
00:36:34,036 --> 00:36:36,680
you put that. That. That makes sense to me.

603
00:36:37,220 --> 00:36:40,700
And I was like, what, you got. To talk in Priscilla language?

604
00:36:40,780 --> 00:36:44,076
Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, especially that I'm

605
00:36:44,108 --> 00:36:47,188
on medication. Yeah. That makes a difference.

606
00:36:47,364 --> 00:36:50,548
The medication definitely has sparked something. Yeah.

607
00:36:50,644 --> 00:36:54,244
And I think your medication has sparked something in you.

608
00:36:54,332 --> 00:36:58,484
Yeah. I'm on an antidepressant now. Yeah. And I'm on Adderall,

609
00:36:58,532 --> 00:37:02,100
so. Yeah. Adhd. Oh, man. Yeah. And so

610
00:37:02,140 --> 00:37:05,876
it balances, because you

611
00:37:06,028 --> 00:37:09,908
Sometimes you do talk at me. Yes. You know, and it's

612
00:37:09,924 --> 00:37:12,500
like I kind of shut down because then I'm going to end up talking at

613
00:37:12,540 --> 00:37:15,028
you, and it's just to go back and forth, back and forth. Right. And.

614
00:37:15,084 --> 00:37:18,916
And so, yeah, maturity, for sure. To kind of know,

615
00:37:19,068 --> 00:37:22,932
okay. You know, that's just. That's just good practice for

616
00:37:23,036 --> 00:37:26,440
couples, period. It's hard. Is just to not react.

617
00:37:26,860 --> 00:37:29,680
That's hard to not react. You know,

618
00:37:29,980 --> 00:37:32,720
I walk away and then I react, and then I come back.

619
00:37:33,100 --> 00:37:36,116
You have gotten a lot better about not reacting.

620
00:37:36,228 --> 00:37:40,200
Yeah, you've gotten way better. I mean, you still react,

621
00:37:40,550 --> 00:37:44,290
but not nearly as much as you used to. Yeah,

622
00:37:44,630 --> 00:37:47,806
I do see. You sit back and process now,

623
00:37:47,878 --> 00:37:51,262
like, as soon as things happen. Yeah. And you do

624
00:37:51,286 --> 00:37:53,646
a real good job. That's why I tell you as soon as it happens,

625
00:37:53,678 --> 00:37:57,726
I'm like, man, I am proud of you. You know, that's pretty fantastic.

626
00:37:57,838 --> 00:38:00,814
But we should be growing as people. I mean, that's the whole point of all

627
00:38:00,822 --> 00:38:04,702
this. We're trying to grow, you know, we're trying to be better. Yes. And I

628
00:38:04,726 --> 00:38:08,240
think that's. That's been working out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

629
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,456
That's nice. You know. Well, you know, it. Maybe it's.

630
00:38:11,488 --> 00:38:14,832
It's a foundation of empowerment that kind of brings it

631
00:38:14,856 --> 00:38:18,224
all together. Yeah. Sexy chingona.

632
00:38:18,352 --> 00:38:21,424
Sexy chingona. So in your opinion,

633
00:38:21,472 --> 00:38:25,888
then, the hot wife lifestyle,

634
00:38:25,984 --> 00:38:30,144
can it be harmful or can it do good

635
00:38:30,232 --> 00:38:33,752
for a marriage? I think. I think

636
00:38:33,776 --> 00:38:36,740
that just depends on. On the marriages. You know,

637
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,820
it's fun. Yeah. It's.

638
00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:43,448
It's. It's a kink. You gotta be in it.

639
00:38:43,504 --> 00:38:47,576
I. I was not. I had. Was very hesitant at first.

640
00:38:47,728 --> 00:38:51,080
Oh, yeah. You know, but I

641
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,992
think it's fun and I like it. And if I didn't like it, I would

642
00:38:54,016 --> 00:38:56,100
tell you. Yeah. You know,

643
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,434
but I also may. What did you say?

644
00:39:00,602 --> 00:39:03,794
A cuckoo queen? No. Or a. A cuckoon.

645
00:39:03,842 --> 00:39:07,010
A cuckoon. For sure. Yeah. You like to watch me?

646
00:39:07,050 --> 00:39:10,310
Like, I want to wear that crown. Yeah. Yes.

647
00:39:10,810 --> 00:39:14,738
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's funny. I would have never figured that.

648
00:39:14,794 --> 00:39:17,410
Yeah, it's. It's nice.

649
00:39:17,570 --> 00:39:21,442
Yeah. Yeah. It's hot. It is hot.

650
00:39:21,626 --> 00:39:25,052
Yeah. I like you watching us. Yeah, that's. That's hot. I had

651
00:39:25,076 --> 00:39:28,320
a toy. Yeah. If I would have had Dutch bros.

652
00:39:28,740 --> 00:39:32,316
D. Noted. Duly noted. Yeah.

653
00:39:32,428 --> 00:39:35,324
I would have had to hear the. The ice shake the whole time. Next time,

654
00:39:35,412 --> 00:39:38,604
be like, okay, girl, you keep it busy. I'm gonna put in

655
00:39:38,612 --> 00:39:41,420
the order. Can you. I'm gonna have it. I'm gonna have it ready. Go.

656
00:39:41,460 --> 00:39:44,684
Pick it up. Pick it up. Whenever you get here.

657
00:39:44,772 --> 00:39:47,676
That's. That's the ticket. That's the toll you gotta pay.

658
00:39:47,748 --> 00:39:50,454
Toll. That's Dutch,

659
00:39:50,502 --> 00:39:54,294
bros. That is funny. I'm pimping you out, babe. Oh,

660
00:39:54,342 --> 00:39:58,006
girl, I'm, I'm all for it. Let me tell you. I am on

661
00:39:58,078 --> 00:40:00,410
board. Objectify me, baby.

662
00:40:01,070 --> 00:40:03,846
Objectify me. That's right.

663
00:40:03,998 --> 00:40:06,694
That's my theme song. Objectify me.

664
00:40:06,862 --> 00:40:10,022
Sounds like a George Michael song. Yeah. So,

665
00:40:10,046 --> 00:40:13,910
you know, I, I, I actually read and I

666
00:40:13,950 --> 00:40:17,342
forwarded you an article the other day that

667
00:40:17,366 --> 00:40:20,638
was about how it was. It was about hot

668
00:40:20,694 --> 00:40:24,542
wifing and how hot wife. Of course

669
00:40:24,566 --> 00:40:27,214
you didn't, because I sent it to you. Why would you. I'll read it when

670
00:40:27,222 --> 00:40:31,886
I go to the bathroom. But that hot wifing is like

671
00:40:31,958 --> 00:40:35,934
the, is considered a marriage saver in,

672
00:40:36,022 --> 00:40:39,134
in many respects. Oh, wait, I did read that.

673
00:40:39,222 --> 00:40:42,454
Yeah. Yes, that it's considered a marriage safer.

674
00:40:42,542 --> 00:40:47,318
I mean, because essentially one of the biggest

675
00:40:47,494 --> 00:40:51,398
breakups of a marriage are people who

676
00:40:51,454 --> 00:40:55,110
are wanting to either experiment outside

677
00:40:55,230 --> 00:40:59,094
of their own sex life, maybe they're

678
00:40:59,142 --> 00:41:02,870
bisexual, and they can't get what they want

679
00:41:02,990 --> 00:41:06,326
from home. Right. So they want to experiment, you know,

680
00:41:06,478 --> 00:41:09,718
and they don't want to, but they don't want to leave their relationship.

681
00:41:09,814 --> 00:41:13,752
Yeah. So how do you experiment with that? Well, you know, you can, you can

682
00:41:13,776 --> 00:41:16,952
open that up. Yeah. Or they want to have sex with

683
00:41:16,976 --> 00:41:20,328
other people. They want to have different experiences. They don't have to feel

684
00:41:20,384 --> 00:41:24,168
like they are going to lose their

685
00:41:24,224 --> 00:41:27,512
relationship over this. You know what I mean?

686
00:41:27,696 --> 00:41:30,600
And that's cool. And frankly, you know,

687
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,220
just speaking from personal standpoint,

688
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:39,032
I feel like it strengthens our relationship,

689
00:41:39,176 --> 00:41:42,708
and it definitely makes me want you

690
00:41:42,764 --> 00:41:46,148
more, which says a lot because since we've gotten

691
00:41:46,164 --> 00:41:49,268
together, I've always just wanted, like, I've wanted you.

692
00:41:49,324 --> 00:41:53,268
Yeah. Like, all the time. But there's just

693
00:41:53,324 --> 00:41:56,160
something about another person.

694
00:41:56,540 --> 00:41:59,732
Huh. Lusting after my wife.

695
00:41:59,876 --> 00:42:02,708
My wife. Yeah, that's my wife. Yeah.

696
00:42:02,804 --> 00:42:06,596
Oh, sorry, y'all. But she belongs to me. Okay.

697
00:42:06,708 --> 00:42:10,188
Yeah. And, and it's. And it's like they

698
00:42:10,244 --> 00:42:14,316
are wanting you and you're

699
00:42:14,348 --> 00:42:18,124
having a good time with them now. Like, now it's. Now it's no more.

700
00:42:18,212 --> 00:42:21,916
No more bad, you know, situations. Now it's.

701
00:42:22,028 --> 00:42:25,948
I'm enjoying myself. Yeah. And now

702
00:42:26,004 --> 00:42:29,692
I know you're enjoying yourself. And this is a part of

703
00:42:29,716 --> 00:42:33,276
my kink. Yeah. And, you know, I, I used to tell you all the time

704
00:42:33,428 --> 00:42:37,254
we, I, I said, it's just not the same if I know you're not enjoying

705
00:42:37,302 --> 00:42:40,998
it. Like, yeah. Like, don't do it for the motion. Yeah. It just doesn't

706
00:42:41,014 --> 00:42:44,230
do it for Me? And you'd be like, no, I. I did it for you.

707
00:42:44,270 --> 00:42:47,542
But you wouldn't tell me until afterwards. Yeah. And I'd be

708
00:42:47,566 --> 00:42:50,790
like, well, how was it? And you were. You were like. And I'd be like,

709
00:42:50,830 --> 00:42:52,774
really? You didn't like it? You were like, well, I did it for you.

710
00:42:52,862 --> 00:42:56,950
Yeah. I'm like, damn it, stop that. You know, like, don't do that. I want

711
00:42:56,990 --> 00:43:00,422
you to enjoy it. And so now you're. You're opened up

712
00:43:00,446 --> 00:43:04,204
and you're enjoying it, and it has brought out

713
00:43:04,292 --> 00:43:07,660
a sexual aggression out of you in

714
00:43:07,700 --> 00:43:11,500
our own personal sex life. Yeah. Which I find interesting.

715
00:43:11,580 --> 00:43:15,000
It has. And it's. It's awakened some demons. It is.

716
00:43:15,380 --> 00:43:17,600
This house is not clean,

717
00:43:18,260 --> 00:43:20,720
both figuratively and literally.

718
00:43:23,300 --> 00:43:24,920
We need a cleaning service.

719
00:43:28,350 --> 00:43:31,302
Oh, Lord. Yes. Yeah.

720
00:43:31,366 --> 00:43:34,530
Yeah, It's. It's awakened some demons. It has.

721
00:43:37,150 --> 00:43:41,350
You're cool with that? I am. I am, actually. I am

722
00:43:41,390 --> 00:43:44,854
a big believer in trying new experiences.

723
00:43:44,902 --> 00:43:48,534
And I used to always say all the time, I feel like we're very

724
00:43:48,622 --> 00:43:51,398
vanilla lifestylers,

725
00:43:51,574 --> 00:43:54,182
and. Because people will come up to us, and they're like, what's your kink?

726
00:43:54,246 --> 00:43:57,558
And I'm like, I don't know. Do I have one?

727
00:43:57,614 --> 00:44:01,202
We just full swap. That's it. That's right. Do you. Man, I had

728
00:44:01,226 --> 00:44:04,002
a question. It left. Yeah. Yeah, it did.

729
00:44:04,186 --> 00:44:07,842
It packed up. Packed up and flew south for

730
00:44:07,866 --> 00:44:11,602
the winter. That was gone. I looked at you, and I

731
00:44:11,626 --> 00:44:14,722
saw your eyes just went blank. That was it. That was

732
00:44:14,746 --> 00:44:17,522
the end of it. I don't remember what I was gonna say. Well, you know,

733
00:44:17,546 --> 00:44:20,578
I can tell you this. I know it was gonna be a really, really good.

734
00:44:20,634 --> 00:44:23,950
It was. Yeah. That's all right.

735
00:44:24,090 --> 00:44:27,050
Yeah, it's okay. It's gonna be fine.

736
00:44:29,150 --> 00:44:32,678
I'm not gonna look for it. You know, I. I just always

737
00:44:32,734 --> 00:44:36,454
felt like we were very vanilla. Yeah. In our. In our lifestyle.

738
00:44:36,502 --> 00:44:39,782
I think we still are, you know. I think we're opening up to

739
00:44:39,806 --> 00:44:43,430
stuff. We are. We are opening up. Yeah, we're opening up

740
00:44:43,470 --> 00:44:46,930
something very southern there. Well, I can't help it, you know.

741
00:44:49,550 --> 00:44:53,218
Load me up some iced tea. No. I don't

742
00:44:53,234 --> 00:44:56,354
know, man. Anyway, yeah, I.

743
00:44:56,442 --> 00:44:59,970
You know, I think that we are starting to open

744
00:45:00,010 --> 00:45:03,650
up to new stuff, definitely. Don't you think? Yeah,

745
00:45:03,730 --> 00:45:05,910
definitely opening up. Rim shot.

746
00:45:07,450 --> 00:45:11,458
Yeah. We went to a takeover

747
00:45:11,554 --> 00:45:15,218
once, and they. They had different rooms,

748
00:45:15,394 --> 00:45:18,610
and one of the. The coolest rooms that I got to

749
00:45:18,650 --> 00:45:21,510
try was electric.

750
00:45:22,650 --> 00:45:26,002
I'm about to do that to you. Yeah. What? Oh, is that what that

751
00:45:26,026 --> 00:45:29,042
thing is? Yeah, it's. It was a Machine.

752
00:45:29,186 --> 00:45:33,202
Yeah. And the high frequency machine. A high frequency

753
00:45:33,266 --> 00:45:36,642
machine. So it was described to me as. For those

754
00:45:36,666 --> 00:45:40,194
of you who grew up in the 80s and some of the 90s, you remember

755
00:45:40,242 --> 00:45:44,012
those. Those big electrical balls, like crystal balls that

756
00:45:44,036 --> 00:45:48,012
you could put your fingers on, and it had the different electrodes that

757
00:45:48,036 --> 00:45:52,428
would come out. It was almost like a little electricity is getting to your fingertips.

758
00:45:52,604 --> 00:45:56,140
It's essentially a wand, a small wand of

759
00:45:56,180 --> 00:45:59,452
that. And it's a glass pipe that

760
00:45:59,476 --> 00:46:02,828
has different gases in it. Is that what it is?

761
00:46:02,884 --> 00:46:05,916
It is gases. Look at that.

762
00:46:06,068 --> 00:46:08,880
Get all technical on me. Anyway.

763
00:46:09,370 --> 00:46:12,962
That I thought on your skin. You like. I did. Yeah. She. She did

764
00:46:12,986 --> 00:46:16,210
it on my arm. And some guy, like, did it to his balls and everything

765
00:46:16,250 --> 00:46:19,634
while we're there. Like his upper thigh. Ball area. Yeah.

766
00:46:19,682 --> 00:46:23,234
No way, man. Sorry. That's not happening.

767
00:46:23,362 --> 00:46:27,282
You know, But I thought that was something that I

768
00:46:27,466 --> 00:46:31,442
never thought I would enjoy. Yeah. I thought it was weird

769
00:46:31,586 --> 00:46:35,322
going into it, but I was like, ah, it. Why not? I'm not

770
00:46:35,346 --> 00:46:37,994
doing it. I'm not having sex right now. I might as well do something,

771
00:46:38,162 --> 00:46:40,950
you know? So I give it a try,

772
00:46:41,250 --> 00:46:44,874
and all of a sudden. Huh. I can see,

773
00:46:44,962 --> 00:46:48,378
like, a little light bit of this. I can see it.

774
00:46:48,434 --> 00:46:51,930
Kind of doing a thing for me. Yeah. Doing a thing.

775
00:46:51,970 --> 00:46:55,162
You know, I don't know. Yeah. And so with that, it just kind of made

776
00:46:55,186 --> 00:46:58,570
me sit back and go. You know, there's a lot of stuff that I

777
00:46:58,610 --> 00:47:02,528
have just completely sealed off from my head. Yeah. That I thought,

778
00:47:02,584 --> 00:47:05,952
I can't do this. This isn't for me. Yeah. I don't. You know,

779
00:47:05,976 --> 00:47:09,248
and I. Because we just assume things. We don't really look

780
00:47:09,304 --> 00:47:13,600
into stuff if we're. If it sounds like something we're not interested in. We've heard

781
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:17,360
a thing or two. Which I'm sure is not either the complete story or

782
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:21,056
the. The. The full facts. Yeah. You know, it's like you don't

783
00:47:21,088 --> 00:47:24,672
really know about it unless you go and research it or check it

784
00:47:24,696 --> 00:47:27,984
out, you know, and we've never, ever done that.

785
00:47:28,152 --> 00:47:31,578
And so we really don't know anything about it. Sounds like, you know,

786
00:47:31,744 --> 00:47:34,662
we should start trying some new things. Why not?

787
00:47:34,766 --> 00:47:38,486
Why not? Because I figured

788
00:47:38,518 --> 00:47:41,158
there's just this small window of time.

789
00:47:41,294 --> 00:47:44,610
Yeah. That we have. Yeah. To play.

790
00:47:44,910 --> 00:47:49,030
That people will actually want to play with us right

791
00:47:49,070 --> 00:47:52,582
now. I'd say. I'd say we're at our peak right now. Okay.

792
00:47:52,646 --> 00:47:55,430
Well, I like this. I like where we're at right now. We are. We are

793
00:47:55,470 --> 00:48:00,120
at our peak. And at some point we're Going to start our decline this

794
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,560
plane ride's gonna start our. Our descent no way, man.

795
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,600
We have friends that are older than us, and they are still having a time

796
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,672
of their lives, and I love that. Oh, well, I'm not talking about them.

797
00:48:09,696 --> 00:48:13,352
I'm talking about us. Because as we get

798
00:48:13,376 --> 00:48:17,096
older, we start getting lazier. Oh, man. It's like, oh, dude, I gotta

799
00:48:17,128 --> 00:48:20,312
get dressed. Okay. I gotta put on pants.

800
00:48:20,376 --> 00:48:23,976
I'll give you that. I gotta find them stretchy pants I gotta

801
00:48:24,008 --> 00:48:27,826
iron. Yeah, I gotta put away laundry. This interferes

802
00:48:27,858 --> 00:48:30,914
with my Sunday. How many times have we said that,

803
00:48:31,002 --> 00:48:34,178
Babe? You're making me have, like, anxiety right now.

804
00:48:34,234 --> 00:48:37,602
We're gonna go. We're gonna go out of town on Saturday, and we're gonna stay

805
00:48:37,626 --> 00:48:41,170
the night, and then we're gonna show up at what time on Sunday? The house

806
00:48:41,210 --> 00:48:44,530
is not gonna be clean. I will not have started my

807
00:48:44,570 --> 00:48:48,402
laundry. I will have to unpack our stuff.

808
00:48:48,546 --> 00:48:52,028
We're gonna have to do more laundry. There's going to be dishes.

809
00:48:52,124 --> 00:48:55,996
Oh, my gosh. How did you get to the subject? The dishes in the sink?

810
00:48:56,108 --> 00:48:59,120
Goodness gracious. Are we done so many dishes?

811
00:48:59,700 --> 00:49:03,036
Are we done so many dishes? You're so mean.

812
00:49:03,188 --> 00:49:06,860
It's so rough. It's rough because we're getting older.

813
00:49:06,940 --> 00:49:10,060
Yeah, that is true. We are not in our 20s. You know, some of these

814
00:49:10,100 --> 00:49:13,932
people, they can drink, drink, drink, drink, drink all night long and do

815
00:49:13,956 --> 00:49:17,228
it on Thursdays and Fridays and Saturdays and then go for day drinks

816
00:49:17,244 --> 00:49:20,704
on Sunday, Sundays. And I'm like, bruh, I love that for them.

817
00:49:20,792 --> 00:49:24,464
Dry yourself out, man. I can't do it. My liver.

818
00:49:24,512 --> 00:49:27,792
My liver would be like, nah, dude, you gotta calm down, because I'm.

819
00:49:27,856 --> 00:49:31,500
I'm already fatty. I don't need to be drunky for sure.

820
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,072
Be like, nope, that's right. That's. That's why I don't really drink.

821
00:49:35,136 --> 00:49:38,624
Because I know that the food that I eat makes my liver fatty.

822
00:49:38,672 --> 00:49:42,208
The last thing I need to do is I give that alcohol and he's gonna

823
00:49:42,224 --> 00:49:45,958
be drunky, too. You got a drunky and a fatty liver.

824
00:49:46,134 --> 00:49:47,370
Thanks, doctor.

825
00:49:48,830 --> 00:49:52,790
Appreciate that. Now I'm depressed. Well,

826
00:49:52,830 --> 00:49:55,974
of course, because alcohol is a depressant. That's right. Of course your liver's gonna be

827
00:49:55,982 --> 00:49:58,838
depressed. It's already drunk and fat.

828
00:49:59,014 --> 00:50:02,422
Tell that motherfucker. Get on a StairMaster on

829
00:50:02,446 --> 00:50:05,830
a stairwell. That's because

830
00:50:05,870 --> 00:50:10,002
that's what I use. I use the old school rocky

831
00:50:10,066 --> 00:50:13,730
montage type training. That's right. I go upstairs,

832
00:50:13,890 --> 00:50:17,058
just one floor, and then.

833
00:50:17,194 --> 00:50:20,098
And then I go downstairs later on in the Day. That's it. Yeah. And I'm

834
00:50:20,114 --> 00:50:22,818
like, oh, man. I really worked my buns.

835
00:50:22,994 --> 00:50:26,082
I worked my buns, guys. You really do. I have buns of steel.

836
00:50:26,146 --> 00:50:30,350
Wow. Yeah, you do. I do. I do. They still there?

837
00:50:31,050 --> 00:50:35,350
They're still there. Still jiggling all kinds of steels.

838
00:50:35,770 --> 00:50:38,150
That's right. I got buns of steel.

839
00:50:39,810 --> 00:50:43,514
A coffee hour. Oh, my gosh. Are we still recording?

840
00:50:43,562 --> 00:50:46,426
Jesus. I forgot this thing was still on. Wow.

841
00:50:46,538 --> 00:50:49,194
Well, that was a good. That was a good. That was a good time that

842
00:50:49,202 --> 00:50:52,042
we were talking about there. Yeah. That was fun, huh?

843
00:50:52,106 --> 00:50:55,690
Yes. Anyways, I guess the point

844
00:50:55,730 --> 00:50:59,242
of this conversation is because I gotta pull us back on

845
00:50:59,266 --> 00:51:02,550
track. Yes. Go. The point of the conversation is,

846
00:51:02,930 --> 00:51:06,688
in my opinion, imo, for anybody who's

847
00:51:06,784 --> 00:51:09,920
texting often, in my opinion,

848
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,740
I think that hot wifing is one of the best things

849
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:18,016
for. For most people. And I honestly

850
00:51:18,048 --> 00:51:21,792
think that hot wifing. And this is. This is gonna not make sense until it

851
00:51:21,816 --> 00:51:24,928
makes sense. I think that hot wifing is

852
00:51:24,984 --> 00:51:28,700
great for people who have jealousy issues

853
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,980
regarding their spouse. Now let me explain.

854
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:37,312
I feel that way because if I have

855
00:51:37,496 --> 00:51:41,340
jealousy issues with you and

856
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,600
I sit back and I see you having sex

857
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,140
with somebody else,

858
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:52,048
it's gonna force me to confront those feelings,

859
00:51:52,224 --> 00:51:55,984
those uncomfortable feelings. Now, rem. I remember

860
00:51:56,032 --> 00:51:59,680
I told you every time I watch you have sex, every time I know that

861
00:51:59,720 --> 00:52:04,012
this is happening with somebody else, it gives me a very uncomfortable

862
00:52:04,076 --> 00:52:07,612
feeling. Right. It's that butterflies in your stomach.

863
00:52:07,676 --> 00:52:10,828
Yeah. And it can either go really good or

864
00:52:10,884 --> 00:52:14,012
really bad, depending on how you let your mind go. Yeah.

865
00:52:14,076 --> 00:52:17,868
Right. So realistically, in that

866
00:52:17,924 --> 00:52:21,196
moment, you control every

867
00:52:21,268 --> 00:52:24,236
aspect of whether you're feeling jealousy or not.

868
00:52:24,308 --> 00:52:29,450
Yeah. Now I can. I can take it all the way back to that

869
00:52:29,750 --> 00:52:32,250
one time very, very long ago,

870
00:52:32,710 --> 00:52:36,654
where I got upset that you were kissing another woman

871
00:52:36,742 --> 00:52:39,294
behind closed doors. Right.

872
00:52:39,462 --> 00:52:43,246
And in that moment, we were still very

873
00:52:43,318 --> 00:52:46,926
new to the lifestyle. Oh, yeah. And I walked

874
00:52:46,958 --> 00:52:51,090
away. And I remember I had that stomach feeling,

875
00:52:51,430 --> 00:52:55,038
but it went to a negative way. Mm.

876
00:52:55,134 --> 00:52:58,542
It could have very easily gone to a positive way because I

877
00:52:58,566 --> 00:53:01,470
didn't realize at that time. But that was.

878
00:53:01,510 --> 00:53:04,010
That was actually. I was very turned on by that,

879
00:53:04,630 --> 00:53:08,702
but I was upset. Like, I let it go the negative

880
00:53:08,766 --> 00:53:13,102
direction. Right. So then as time went on, I realized

881
00:53:13,166 --> 00:53:16,366
every single time I watch you with somebody, I'm always gonna get that.

882
00:53:16,438 --> 00:53:19,742
That uncomfortable feeling in my stomach that kind

883
00:53:19,766 --> 00:53:22,920
of gets my adrenaline running. And it could really go one way

884
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,300
or another. And I could sit back and go, God,

885
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,696
like, she's looking like she's really enjoying that. And she's not paying attention

886
00:53:30,728 --> 00:53:34,056
to me at all. Yeah. You know what I mean? Which I can easily do.

887
00:53:34,128 --> 00:53:37,640
Yeah. You know, I can be that person and be like, she's not even looking

888
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,856
at me. What the fuck? She's not even aimed

889
00:53:40,888 --> 00:53:43,672
at me. Like, she, she care less if I'm in the room. Yeah. Which has

890
00:53:43,696 --> 00:53:47,112
happened before. Yeah. But if I said that,

891
00:53:47,136 --> 00:53:50,260
then it'll go in a negative direction and then forget it.

892
00:53:50,770 --> 00:53:53,914
We're finishing up. Or I'm going to be sitting there miserable. You know what I

893
00:53:53,922 --> 00:53:57,818
mean? Can't do it. Yeah. But I normally will

894
00:53:57,874 --> 00:54:00,890
start once I get that uncomfortable feeling,

895
00:54:00,970 --> 00:54:04,026
I'll start rubbing myself or I'll start, like,

896
00:54:04,098 --> 00:54:07,530
thinking of certain things that really take it towards the positive.

897
00:54:07,610 --> 00:54:11,002
Take it towards the hotter feeling. Yeah. And then before you

898
00:54:11,026 --> 00:54:14,650
know it, we're both having a really good experience.

899
00:54:14,770 --> 00:54:18,074
Yeah. And I am all about it.

900
00:54:18,162 --> 00:54:21,402
Like, it is awesome. And so that's why I said, you know,

901
00:54:21,426 --> 00:54:25,402
if, if you can sit there and learn how to confront

902
00:54:25,466 --> 00:54:29,322
those feelings that you have and be able to have an

903
00:54:29,346 --> 00:54:32,970
open conversation with your spouse or your partner about it and

904
00:54:33,010 --> 00:54:36,682
be able to just kind of re. Reassure each other and kind

905
00:54:36,706 --> 00:54:39,834
of feel better about the situation,

906
00:54:39,962 --> 00:54:44,150
be able to move on, let some time pass before you try it again.

907
00:54:44,720 --> 00:54:47,940
I guarantee you, you can grow

908
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,680
past this. Yeah. You can make it work. And I, I think

909
00:54:52,720 --> 00:54:56,584
that's something that, you know, everybody should at least try once. I think that's

910
00:54:56,712 --> 00:54:59,912
at least once I could be wrong. I don't know. I, I, I could be

911
00:54:59,936 --> 00:55:04,040
completely full of shit. Try it. Give it a shot. Who knows?

912
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,720
Anyways, I really appreciate you guys tuning in this week.

913
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,212
We love having y'all join us. That's right.

914
00:55:11,236 --> 00:55:14,892
I said y'all because we're in Texas. And for those of you who are not

915
00:55:14,916 --> 00:55:17,800
in Texas and for those of you who are not in the States,

916
00:55:18,340 --> 00:55:21,868
we just want to say, what up, you guys?

917
00:55:22,044 --> 00:55:25,628
Thank you for listening. We appreciate you guys joining us and

918
00:55:25,684 --> 00:55:29,132
thank you for everybody who reaches out to us with all the love and support,

919
00:55:29,316 --> 00:55:32,812
and we will be seeing you next week.

920
00:55:32,916 --> 00:55:33,600
Bye.