Compersion Isn’t Automatic: Jealousy, Growth & Real Non-Monogamy
Compersion Isn’t Automatic — And That’s Completely Normal
Compersion gets talked about a lot in ethical non-monogamy — sometimes like it’s a requirement, sometimes like it’s a badge of honor. But what happens when it just… doesn’t come naturally?
In this Wednesday Quickie episode of Beyond Monogamy with Adam & Pris, we get real about jealousy, emotional processing, missed conversations, and the pressure people feel to “do non-monogamy right.” This is a raw, honest conversation pulled straight from real life — no scripts, no coaching language, and no pretending it’s always easy.
Pris opens up about why compersion doesn’t come naturally to her, how cultural upbringing and jealousy wiring play a role, and why being okay is sometimes the best she can offer in the moment. Adam shares what it feels like to want to share excitement and connection with your partner — and what happens when that moment doesn’t land the way you expected.
What We Talk About In This Episode
- What compersion actually means (and why it’s not the opposite of jealousy)
- Why compersion is not natural for everyone
- Jealousy, possessiveness, and territorial instincts in non-monogamy
- The pressure to perform happiness for your partner
- How ADHD, stress, and mental overload affect emotional presence
- Why not talking can be more damaging than feeling jealous
- Different processing styles between partners
- Learning to communicate without shutting down
- Why compromise matters more than emotional perfection
Real-Life Moments, Not Theory
This episode is sparked by a real play-date experience that went well — but didn’t get talked about right away. Adam and Pris unpack why timing, mental space, and communication matter just as much as intentions.
If you’ve ever felt like you were failing at non-monogamy because jealousy showed up instead of compersion, this conversation will feel very familiar.
The Takeaway
You do not need to feel compersion to be successful in ethical non-monogamy.
You do need honesty, self-awareness, communication, and respect for each other’s boundaries.
This episode is a reminder that non-monogamy isn’t about checking emotional boxes — it’s about navigating real human feelings together.
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Alright y'all, before we
dive in, a quick heads up.
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This show is raw, real, and
definitely not rated pg.
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We're talking about adult themes, sexual
content, and the kind of stuff you
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probably don't want blasting through your
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So grab some headphones, pour your
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Oh, and just so we're clear, we are not
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or just a couple of people sharing our
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An ethical non-monogamy.
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So with that, pull up a
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And.
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Hello and welcome to another
episode of Beyond Monogamy.
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I'm Adam.
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And I'm Pris.
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And today on our little Wednesday quickie
here I am going to, um, I wanted to talk
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about something that one of our guests
mentioned, and I'm probably gonna jump
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around to different little subjects, but
this one right here, this one hit a nail.
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Okay, let's do it.
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So
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we're gonna be discussing
how compersion and how those
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feelings kind of overthrow you.
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So like how do.
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When you have feelings and you don't
know how to express them, and your other
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partner pretty much is not understanding.
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Yeah, I, I think I, I understand where
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what we were basically talking about was
in this particular situation, people come
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into the ethical, non-monogamous space
and they hear compersion, compersion,
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and oftentimes they hear compersion.
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From people who are more advanced Y
or maybe don't struggle with jealousy.
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Yeah.
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Something that's natural.
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It's not natural to everybody.
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Yeah.
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And I think that's the problem that a
lot of people are forgetting is that
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compersion is not natural to everything.
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Exactly.
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And so I wanted to talk about like the.
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The fear
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of it all.
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Now, for those who are just tuning
into us, what exactly is compersion?
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So compersion is feeling
happiness for your partner.
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So it is, it's like.
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When Adam has a fun
time, I'm happy for him.
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Like I'm happy that he's having that.
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I'm compassionate about his feelings
and I guess I'm understanding of it,
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is that Yeah, yeah.
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Well, so the actual definition
is compersion is the
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feeling of joy or happiness.
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One experiences from seeing a loved one,
especially a romantic partner, happy.
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Particularly in their intimate
connections with others, often
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described as the opposite of jealousy.
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But we know that that's not
necessarily the opposite of jealousy.
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No.
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So I, I do not have compersion for my
husband, and it takes a lot of, and I'm
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assuming that I don't always have it.
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I just, 90% of the time I have no
compersion for whatever you are doing.
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It takes a lot.
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Of self-reflection to have a tiny
grain of com compersion for you.
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I've seen that, and it's so funny because
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You and I are so different on this.
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We are, yeah, because I am, I, I've think
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I've told you this before,
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it's the predator.
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I dunno.
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It stopped.
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That was weird.
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I think I've told you this before
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is a win for you is a win for us.
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So if you have, say there's
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that you have and somebody.
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Comes along who can get you
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give you a great experience.
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And I'm not involved in it in any way.
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I'm cool with it.
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Like I'm happy for you.
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I'm like, oh shit, you
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Good for you.
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I mean, bummer.
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It wasn't me that did it, but
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okay, cool.
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I do the bummer.
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It wasn't me.
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You did it.
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Period.
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Period.
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So like, and you focus on that and I focus
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It's like, well, if you wanted to
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I, we could have done it together.
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So that's where I go like, why
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And why didn't, why wasn't it?
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What am I, why didn't
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When you have all this.
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All this awesomeness at your hands.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You
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have all this greatness right beside you.
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With that being said, why
are we even in the lifestyle?
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No, I mean, exactly.
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I mean, with that kind of mentality
of thinking, there's no reason why
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we should even be non-monogamous.
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It's, um, like I have the perfect partner
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Why do I need to experience anything else?
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even not, it's, um.
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I wanna be the first.
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Right?
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So that was a lot of the things.
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I wanna be the first, I wanna
be the first, but talking
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about the compersion part,
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yeah.
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I couldn't I didn't know how to, I, I
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Jealousy, territorial, possessiveness
comes very naturally to me.
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And to kind of sit back and
find those, those winning.
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Oh, you want feelings?
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Is hard sometimes for me.
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It's hard.
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Because you would rather see me unhappy.
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No.
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And with you?
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No, not even that.
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I'd rather you be miserable of me than
having a good time with other people.
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Period.
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Wait, what did our first
guest, what did I last guest?
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Just say, I mean,
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gratitude,
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gratitude, gratitude.
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It's
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you show gratitude to the fact that.
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They show the affection to you.
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Yeah.
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What I wanted to say is I've
learned to navigate through that,
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so I wanted to let everybody know
that it's, it's a very hard thing.
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And is it cultural?
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It could be.
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It could be very cultural.
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I think it
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exists in every culture.
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It
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does exist in every culture, but I
wanna say for me, it is cultural.
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For me, it was something that
I saw my parents go through.
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My mom was a very jealous,
possessive, controlling person.
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But my dad allowed that.
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My dad embraced that.
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My dad liked that.
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Um, so I have both of
those qualities in me.
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I like when my partner is jealous,
but I am also a very jealous person.
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Yeah.
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But in the 15 years that we've been
together and the time that we've
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been in the lifestyle, I wanna
say that I have finally grown.
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I finally understand.
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I don't always have to have it.
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I don't have to have compersion, I don't
have to always throw balloons and have
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a party on every win that you have.
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I just have to be.
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Okay with it.
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I have to you,
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you to be okay with yourself.
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I have to be okay with myself.
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I have to figure out why am I feeling
jealous at the moment if it's a jealousy.
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Or like yesterday we, we were
driving to the club and Adam said,
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so what did you think about today?
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Because we had a play date.
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We had a morning play.
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We had a morning play with a woman.
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And so that, that was the, the part that
I was kind of struggling with because.
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We've had play dates with.
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Other guys with other couples
and you know, you're in this
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for your experience with women.
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Mm-hmm.
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So oftentimes whenever we've
had experiences and you're with
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a guy, it's not normally the
greatest, it's pretty average.
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And you're like, well, you know,
you're the best that I've ever had.
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Whatever.
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But this particular play date was
one that doesn't happen very often.
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And that was literally just a
threesome with another woman.
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And a woman that we like as a friend.
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And a woman who's very good at the sex.
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And it was, you know, I was
pretty happy about the experience.
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And so I was looking forward to
having this conversation with you.
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And you never brought it up.
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And it, I never brought
it up, wasn't discussed.
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You know, it's kind of hard to have
a conversation with you about this
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because, and I could tell that it was
a disappointment and we talked about it
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and you're like, yeah, you know, I, I,
you know, I wanted to share it with you.
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I get so my
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thing was like, I was like, I
obviously I wanna share with you
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when I've had good experiences.
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Yeah.
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'cause you're my best friend and you're
my wife and I wanna tell you, oh yeah.
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I enjoyed this.
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And I had, because I. You're my champion.
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You're, you're supposed
to be cheering me on.
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You're supposed to be like you.
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That's freaking great.
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I'm so happy for you.
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And so I wanna be able to come tell
my best friend, Hey, I did this, or
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I did that, and I had a great time.
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And then we had this play date,
and I thought that you were
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gonna be excited about it.
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I thought there was gonna be
a lot of good conversation.
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Oh, I, I enjoyed myself and
this, and, and I asked you.
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I was like, how did it go
and what did you think?
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And you were like, it's good.
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And it was literally, it was like asking
my teenager how school was, it was
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good.
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It was fine.
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You know, it was, it was such
an just, you were not present.
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It was not in the moment
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and it's not I said that and then you
stopped and I could feel the air change.
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You were bummed.
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And then we talked about
that, and I was like, okay.
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And so I had to break my thing, but
it and so for that situation, it
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was a fun situa, it was a fun date.
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It was a fun playtime.
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It was great.
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The energy is, she likes both of us.
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We all had an orgasm.
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It was an ideal
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situation of us came.
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It was
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great.
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It had nothing to do with the situation.
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I just.
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Another, I'm in another world constantly.
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I, when I have time to just think,
I'm thinking about everything.
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I'm thinking about, did I water my plants?
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I'm thinking about, geez, did
I water my plants at work?
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Oh man, I have to go back to work today.
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Did I do my, I have a shit ton
of things, so there is no room in
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there for me to have a conversation
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about and see, but see, that's
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the tough part, but that's a tough
part because you're not present.
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So that's what I'm saying,
after you and I talked Yeah.
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You said that to me.
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I was like, oh, shit.
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Okay.
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Now in my head, I am going to make
a compartment for conversations like
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that because one, I wanna have, I
wanna break out of my shell of always
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thinking and overthinking things that
have nothing to do with the situation.
263
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Right.
264
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I don't, I didn't understand.
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So
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like, I am trying, like I, I, I
have a DHD, so I'm trying to like.
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In the moment.
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I'm trying to think of the
moment that you and I are having.
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Okay.
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So like, I'm not gonna, I'm
really trying to compartmentalize
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every situation in my head.
272
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Yeah.
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So now I have a little
compartment in there that says,
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boo Bear wants to talk about
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fun
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stuff.
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Yeah, because it's, I mean,
that's the idea, rocket.
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It's a turn.
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Turn on for you.
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It is.
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It's a turn.
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So.
283
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That's where I am gonna
have more compassion.
284
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Yeah.
285
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And I'm gonna be more grateful that we
can have these experiences together.
286
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Yeah.
287
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But I wanted to like, let you know that,
that it's, it's not, and let other people
288
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know that it's a growing situation.
289
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So like you really have
to stop and figure out.
290
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Yeah, like your thoughts
have to be intentional.
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You have to engage, and that's one thing
that I struggle with a lot is not having.
292
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Compersion, but it's okay.
293
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It's okay to not have Yeah.
294
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Compersion because as you can
see, we are still happily married.
295
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Right, honey?
296
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Yeah.
297
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Yeah.
298
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We're both I'm not miserable at all.
299
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No, no.
300
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We,
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we are.
302
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He's not miserable.
303
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You are actually, you know, legitimately
we are in a happy relationship.
304
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Yeah.
305
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And it's taken some
compromises from both of us.
306
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Yes.
307
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Uh, where we both have
to meet in the middle.
308
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You give up some, I give up
some and we meet in the middle.
309
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And, and it's possible.
310
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And it's communication.
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And it's communication.
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And.
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I also have to be very grateful and
understanding that he has grown.
314
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Adam has grown because after the play
session we did not talk about it.
315
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He waited for a specific time to
bring up the conversation because
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he felt You already knew that I
wasn't in the mood to talk about it.
317
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Yeah, no, it was, it was, um,
318
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from the moment that it ended and
it wasn't, it was me processing.
319
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It was just me processing and the fact
that you understood that is very nice.
320
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Thank you.
321
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Oh, you're welcome.
322
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Like you could read the room.
323
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Well, I had to, and you know, the,
my, the person, you know, I knew from
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that point on that I was gonna talk to
you about it because I wanna be able
325
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to talk to you about my experiences.
326
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Yeah.
327
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We do the friends with benefits dynamic.
328
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Yeah.
329
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And so if I have experiences with
other people without you, there.
330
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I wanna feel comfortable enough to
talk to you about it, because if
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I don't talk to you about it, I'm
gonna end up keeping it inside.
332
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And if I keep that inside
333
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mm-hmm.
334
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I'm gonna start keeping
other stuff inside too.
335
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Yeah.
336
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I'm gonna stop talking
to you about things.
337
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Yeah.
338
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And before you know it, we're not
talking about who we're talking
339
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to, we're not talking about the
conversations that we're having.
340
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Yeah.
341
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And it just becomes habit to
not be as open with each other.
342
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Yeah.
343
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And I just don't want to go back to that.
344
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Yeah.
345
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That's not, it's not a fun experience.
346
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And, you also asked me.
347
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He and I are very different.
348
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We are very different.
349
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Yeah.
350
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I, I love the lifestyle.
351
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I have no problem with the lifestyle.
352
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I love playing.
353
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I love having different experiences.
354
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I love sharing them with my partner.
355
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I love sharing them with my friends.
356
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This is breaking
357
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nothing, nothing about that.
358
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Do not have sex on my mind.
359
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24 7. Do I?
360
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Do we have a podcast?
361
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Yes.
362
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Do we have show?
363
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Yes.
364
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But I am thinking about 10,000 other
things at the same time, so if you get me
365
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in a very sexual mentality, good for you.
366
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Good luck.
367
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Oh gosh.
368
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Okay, so yesterday
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randomly we're parked and he
looks over at me and he says.
370
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Do you not lust over
371
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anybody?
372
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Well, so like, you gotta understand
there was, there was a frustration.
373
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So we're sitting there in this empty
car in front of a sex club waiting
374
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for them to open so we can go inside
and party and have sex with people.
375
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Yeah.
376
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And we're sitting there.
377
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Yeah.
378
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And it's quiet.
379
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Yeah.
380
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Like you could cut the
silence with a knife.
381
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And we're sitting there and I
can hear this whole conversation
382
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playing out in my head and I know.
383
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That I lust after I have a list of women.
384
00:14:46,505 --> 00:14:46,685
Yeah.
385
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And I, I do not.
386
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And so like, I have a li there's, there
are women in my circle that I'm, yeah.
387
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I fantasize about her.
388
00:14:55,115 --> 00:14:57,155
Oh, I wanna be with her.
389
00:14:57,155 --> 00:14:57,785
Like, that's, yeah.
390
00:14:58,025 --> 00:15:00,725
Like I, I can pull out
names out of a hat easily.
391
00:15:01,235 --> 00:15:04,535
Uh, and I've tried to have
these conversations with you.
392
00:15:04,535 --> 00:15:04,895
It's like.
393
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So if you could have sex with anybody
that, of the people that we know who
394
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would you appeal to or who and, and
it's like, I've always gotten the
395
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same answer, which is, I don't know.
396
00:15:16,370 --> 00:15:16,670
Yeah.
397
00:15:16,730 --> 00:15:17,840
I don't think about that stuff.
398
00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:17,850
Yeah.
399
00:15:17,895 --> 00:15:17,985
Like
400
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what I do.
401
00:15:19,535 --> 00:15:22,025
So, and, and, and we've
had this conversation.
402
00:15:22,025 --> 00:15:23,195
You're like, now I feel like an asshole.
403
00:15:23,195 --> 00:15:24,785
And it's like, don't feel like an asshole.
404
00:15:24,790 --> 00:15:28,055
I feel like an asshole, just because
I think about it and I have a thousand
405
00:15:28,055 --> 00:15:30,395
other things going through my brain.
406
00:15:30,425 --> 00:15:30,575
Yeah.
407
00:15:30,575 --> 00:15:31,310
But so do I.
408
00:15:31,490 --> 00:15:36,725
But the difference is, is that I push
it away because the sex is dopamine.
409
00:15:37,215 --> 00:15:39,120
The thought of sex is.
410
00:15:39,515 --> 00:15:44,315
It takes me away from reality,
which right now my reality is sex.
411
00:15:44,315 --> 00:15:45,365
It's this podcast.
412
00:15:45,365 --> 00:15:45,425
Yeah.
413
00:15:45,425 --> 00:15:46,690
It's the, the work that we created.
414
00:15:46,790 --> 00:15:48,605
And so for me it's very different.
415
00:15:48,635 --> 00:15:48,845
Yeah.
416
00:15:48,845 --> 00:15:49,385
For you it's, well,
417
00:15:49,385 --> 00:15:52,825
because Yeah, because I'm
managing so many other things.
418
00:15:52,855 --> 00:15:52,945
Yeah.
419
00:15:52,945 --> 00:15:57,655
So like, but so then we were talking
and I was like, no, I do lust over
420
00:15:57,655 --> 00:15:59,135
people, but it's in the moment.
421
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So we were
422
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at the club yesterday, right?
423
00:16:01,435 --> 00:16:03,085
And I was like, Ooh, okay.
424
00:16:03,355 --> 00:16:05,125
I would like to have sex with that person.
425
00:16:05,155 --> 00:16:06,835
I would like to have sex with that person.
426
00:16:06,865 --> 00:16:07,525
Ooh, that would be good.
427
00:16:07,615 --> 00:16:07,675
So
428
00:16:07,675 --> 00:16:08,755
I'm gonna stop you right there.
429
00:16:09,265 --> 00:16:09,565
Okay.
430
00:16:10,065 --> 00:16:13,245
If you were having those thoughts
last night, why didn't you openly
431
00:16:13,245 --> 00:16:15,015
talk to me about it in that moment?
432
00:16:15,540 --> 00:16:15,930
I don't know.
433
00:16:16,260 --> 00:16:17,610
See, that's the problem that I have.
434
00:16:17,610 --> 00:16:20,160
I, that's the problem
that I have, honestly.
435
00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:21,630
So, and I, yeah.
436
00:16:21,630 --> 00:16:24,630
Obviously we had this conversation
before we went into the club.
437
00:16:24,690 --> 00:16:24,870
Yeah.
438
00:16:24,900 --> 00:16:28,230
You know, I am yearning
for you to communicate.
439
00:16:28,380 --> 00:16:28,560
Yeah.
440
00:16:28,590 --> 00:16:30,480
Your lusts and your fantasies.
441
00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,790
Like for the longest time I used
to ask you about your fantasies and
442
00:16:32,790 --> 00:16:33,660
you'd be like, I don't have one.
443
00:16:33,910 --> 00:16:38,110
I just wanna be with you like I have now
I'm an asshole because I'm thinking about
444
00:16:38,110 --> 00:16:39,730
somebody else and I wanna do something.
445
00:16:39,730 --> 00:16:42,250
So remind me when we're in
bed to tell you my fantasy.
446
00:16:42,250 --> 00:16:44,620
'cause all no, because when we're
gonna lie in bed, you're gonna be
447
00:16:44,620 --> 00:16:47,020
eating something and you're gonna
be going, uh, I don't remember
448
00:16:47,020 --> 00:16:48,370
what you're, I don't, I don't know.
449
00:16:48,370 --> 00:16:49,780
I can't think these things are fleeting.
450
00:16:49,780 --> 00:16:50,230
They're gone.
451
00:16:50,230 --> 00:16:51,190
You're eating, you're cereal.
452
00:16:51,460 --> 00:16:56,140
If you don't tell me things in the moment,
you're not gonna remember 'em later.
453
00:16:56,205 --> 00:16:58,065
Do you want me to start now and No.
454
00:16:58,125 --> 00:16:59,110
Well, no, actually no.
455
00:16:59,415 --> 00:17:00,105
Thought it put in your ear.
456
00:17:00,165 --> 00:17:01,725
No, that's not gonna do me any good.
457
00:17:01,875 --> 00:17:03,525
I would've liked to have
known it last night.
458
00:17:03,555 --> 00:17:03,615
Yeah.
459
00:17:03,915 --> 00:17:06,885
And had I known it last night,
I would've pushed for you to
460
00:17:06,885 --> 00:17:09,135
get your experiences instead.
461
00:17:09,135 --> 00:17:11,355
We're just sitting there
and we're people watching.
462
00:17:11,355 --> 00:17:14,625
Well, and I know I have
my eyes on certain people.
463
00:17:15,315 --> 00:17:18,585
But then I think that you don't
have your eyes on anybody and you're
464
00:17:18,585 --> 00:17:21,225
just attached to me, so obviously I
don't want to break away from you.
465
00:17:21,315 --> 00:17:21,645
Yeah,
466
00:17:21,705 --> 00:17:23,895
like there's a whole bunch
that just kind of points.
467
00:17:23,985 --> 00:17:24,045
Okay.
468
00:17:24,045 --> 00:17:25,035
Some arrows at me.
469
00:17:25,125 --> 00:17:25,245
Yeah.
470
00:17:25,245 --> 00:17:26,415
For being an asshole.
471
00:17:26,415 --> 00:17:27,230
For feeling the way I feel.
472
00:17:27,235 --> 00:17:28,230
I don't think you're an asshole.
473
00:17:28,230 --> 00:17:31,755
Like I. I'm interested in this girl,
and I'm interested in that person, and
474
00:17:31,755 --> 00:17:33,015
I wanna do this and I wanna do that.
475
00:17:33,285 --> 00:17:35,795
And then I ask you and you're like
I just wanna be here with you.
476
00:17:36,485 --> 00:17:42,455
And I'm like, well, she, I am an
asshole husband that my wife only
477
00:17:42,455 --> 00:17:44,135
wants to experience things with me.
478
00:17:44,135 --> 00:17:47,645
And I'm over here going, oh, I don't
wanna be with that girl over there.
479
00:17:48,455 --> 00:17:48,575
Oh, you're
480
00:17:48,575 --> 00:17:49,715
such an asshole.
481
00:17:49,955 --> 00:17:50,835
This is what I'm saying.
482
00:17:51,305 --> 00:17:53,000
No, um, I'm gonna try
to get better at that.
483
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Now that I made myself a
little compartment for you.
484
00:17:56,015 --> 00:17:56,255
Yeah.
485
00:17:56,255 --> 00:17:59,015
It would be nice if you got, if
you got, like, you're, you're a
486
00:17:59,015 --> 00:18:02,645
great communicator, but there are
things that you do not communicate.
487
00:18:02,830 --> 00:18:03,950
I don and that is one of them.
488
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I just
489
00:18:04,110 --> 00:18:06,575
don't, I I will do, I, I will
try to get better at that.
490
00:18:06,605 --> 00:18:11,055
I just don't it, it has to be,
and for me, it has to be brought
491
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up in a time where I'm not.
492
00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:14,440
Stressed out,
493
00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:15,670
but that's all the time.
494
00:18:15,700 --> 00:18:16,480
No, and
495
00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,105
like even when we don't have
stuff to worry about, I worry
496
00:18:19,105 --> 00:18:19,930
about You're worried about stuff.
497
00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:20,200
Yeah.
498
00:18:20,260 --> 00:18:21,550
You are always stressed.
499
00:18:21,580 --> 00:18:21,850
Yeah.
500
00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,780
No, but I mean, like, I, I can paint
you a picture like we have to be in bed
501
00:18:26,410 --> 00:18:31,480
and you're kind of touching me and then
you kind of like, ask me and that works.
502
00:18:31,885 --> 00:18:32,545
It works.
503
00:18:32,605 --> 00:18:33,685
It has worked before.
504
00:18:34,255 --> 00:18:37,530
I just have to really
learn to be more yeah know.
505
00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:38,410
Okay, fine then.
506
00:18:38,410 --> 00:18:38,650
Alright.
507
00:18:38,710 --> 00:18:40,255
It doesn't always, well anyway, you
508
00:18:40,255 --> 00:18:42,835
used to say that about
talking about it during sex.
509
00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:42,970
Yeah.
510
00:18:43,285 --> 00:18:46,405
And then I would try and talk to you
about stuff during sex and there's
511
00:18:46,405 --> 00:18:49,375
been times where I have to read the
room and I'm like, yeah, she doesn't
512
00:18:49,375 --> 00:18:50,395
want to talk about that right now.
513
00:18:50,455 --> 00:18:51,805
Is it at six in the morning?
514
00:18:52,420 --> 00:18:53,860
It's whenever we're having sex.
515
00:18:53,860 --> 00:18:55,150
I mean, pick a time.
516
00:18:55,270 --> 00:18:55,390
All
517
00:18:55,390 --> 00:18:55,570
right.
518
00:18:55,570 --> 00:18:56,980
You know, it doesn't really matter.
519
00:18:57,220 --> 00:18:59,590
I was gonna try to do a little bit better,
520
00:18:59,590 --> 00:19:01,570
but, oh, so you, now you're
giving up because I can't
521
00:19:01,570 --> 00:19:02,830
have a conversation with you.
522
00:19:02,830 --> 00:19:06,280
So this is the problem you
understand, and this is what a
523
00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:07,870
lot of couples have issues with.
524
00:19:07,900 --> 00:19:08,080
Yeah.
525
00:19:08,235 --> 00:19:09,105
Is a shutdown.
526
00:19:09,165 --> 00:19:09,585
Yes.
527
00:19:09,585 --> 00:19:11,085
Because I don't agree with you.
528
00:19:11,085 --> 00:19:12,885
Then you're like, oh, well I tried.
529
00:19:13,335 --> 00:19:13,665
Screw it.
530
00:19:13,965 --> 00:19:14,095
Well, no, it's, you don't.
531
00:19:14,095 --> 00:19:14,415
No.
532
00:19:14,415 --> 00:19:16,575
You know, there are so many
divorces that are happening.
533
00:19:16,575 --> 00:19:17,055
It's not
534
00:19:17,055 --> 00:19:21,225
in the lifestyle because people
do not listen to each other.
535
00:19:21,225 --> 00:19:22,365
Things shut down.
536
00:19:22,545 --> 00:19:24,075
The communication does not happen.
537
00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:24,100
Yeah.
538
00:19:24,730 --> 00:19:27,250
I'm telling you that I'm
going to do better at it.
539
00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:28,060
No, I understand
540
00:19:28,060 --> 00:19:28,270
that.
541
00:19:28,270 --> 00:19:33,100
And because I'm interjecting to get you
what you're saying, to tell you why.
542
00:19:33,130 --> 00:19:34,000
Well, we've tried this.
543
00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:34,330
Yes.
544
00:19:34,330 --> 00:19:35,860
And it's a conversation.
545
00:19:36,130 --> 00:19:41,410
So if I say something in conversation that
shouldn't be your number one reason to
546
00:19:41,410 --> 00:19:44,560
go, okay, well obviously this isn't gonna
work then, so I'm just not gonna do it.
547
00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,050
Well, I mean, I've You're gonna say
it, but I'm not gonna talk about it.
548
00:19:47,050 --> 00:19:47,170
Yeah.
549
00:19:47,170 --> 00:19:51,370
But if you're gonna say that, then that's
your way of justifying not doing it.
550
00:19:52,105 --> 00:19:52,825
Do you understand?
551
00:19:53,005 --> 00:19:54,925
It's the negative connotation of it all.
552
00:19:54,925 --> 00:19:54,985
Yeah.
553
00:19:55,405 --> 00:19:58,645
You have this negative thought about
it and you're gonna put a negative spin
554
00:19:58,645 --> 00:20:00,325
to it, then you're not gonna do it.
555
00:20:00,445 --> 00:20:02,185
But I was doing a positive spin on it.
556
00:20:02,185 --> 00:20:03,625
And then you threw in your negative
557
00:20:03,625 --> 00:20:03,865
spin.
558
00:20:03,865 --> 00:20:03,925
It.
559
00:20:04,100 --> 00:20:07,315
I, I, I was having a conversation
we were having a conversation about.
560
00:20:07,315 --> 00:20:07,325
Mm-hmm.
561
00:20:07,385 --> 00:20:10,615
I didn't realize that I was
having to uplift you in that
562
00:20:10,615 --> 00:20:11,965
moment and go, oh, great.
563
00:20:11,965 --> 00:20:12,745
You're gonna do this.
564
00:20:12,745 --> 00:20:13,765
This is wonderful, Nat.
565
00:20:13,855 --> 00:20:14,155
Yes.
566
00:20:14,155 --> 00:20:15,955
No, we're having a conversation about it.
567
00:20:15,955 --> 00:20:16,225
Are we not?
568
00:20:16,375 --> 00:20:17,515
I think I need the uplifting.
569
00:20:18,415 --> 00:20:19,645
Well, you should have
said that from the start.
570
00:20:20,095 --> 00:20:21,175
I think that's great.
571
00:20:21,175 --> 00:20:24,025
I am so excited you're going
to make these changes and
572
00:20:24,025 --> 00:20:25,645
really, and realistically I do.
573
00:20:25,645 --> 00:20:28,705
I'm excited that you're gonna make
these changes because for people who
574
00:20:28,705 --> 00:20:32,245
are listening to this, this is airing
at the start of the new year, Uhhuh,
575
00:20:32,275 --> 00:20:34,855
or the end of 2025, the start of 2026.
576
00:20:35,335 --> 00:20:40,955
And you and I, we always do our,
what we want to change for the year.
577
00:20:40,985 --> 00:20:43,565
There's always something that
we're, we're gonna focus on.
578
00:20:44,405 --> 00:20:45,665
Individually, yes.
579
00:20:45,665 --> 00:20:46,715
That we want to change.
580
00:20:46,835 --> 00:20:47,075
Yes.
581
00:20:47,075 --> 00:20:48,815
Because you blew my mind
with something that you said.
582
00:20:48,875 --> 00:20:49,445
What did I say?
583
00:20:50,405 --> 00:20:52,895
Because I told you that
I never reached my goals.
584
00:20:53,225 --> 00:20:53,345
Oh yeah.
585
00:20:53,345 --> 00:20:54,395
That I can't even know.
586
00:20:54,455 --> 00:20:56,285
I can't even tell you.
587
00:20:56,285 --> 00:20:57,845
Have I reached a goal yet?
588
00:20:58,055 --> 00:20:58,685
I have not.
589
00:20:59,185 --> 00:20:59,875
And you said,
590
00:21:00,655 --> 00:21:01,945
well, you just gotta do shorter goals.
591
00:21:02,035 --> 00:21:03,415
You are like, do little tiny goals.
592
00:21:03,415 --> 00:21:04,100
And I was like, ah,
593
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:05,020
you know what?
594
00:21:05,020 --> 00:21:08,020
I view it as, you remember the old, uh.
595
00:21:08,965 --> 00:21:11,645
The Super Mario World on Super Nintendo.
596
00:21:11,645 --> 00:21:11,765
Mm-hmm.
597
00:21:12,245 --> 00:21:16,985
And you had all of the, so you
could see the big castle far away.
598
00:21:17,135 --> 00:21:17,255
Yeah.
599
00:21:17,285 --> 00:21:20,135
But then you had all of these stops
that you had to go along the way.
600
00:21:20,135 --> 00:21:20,195
Yeah.
601
00:21:20,195 --> 00:21:22,955
And every stop, you had to win at that.
602
00:21:23,045 --> 00:21:23,435
Yes.
603
00:21:23,435 --> 00:21:24,275
To move on to the next.
604
00:21:24,275 --> 00:21:24,545
Yes.
605
00:21:24,625 --> 00:21:25,975
It's the same thing with your goals.
606
00:21:26,425 --> 00:21:31,195
If you think of it as Super Mario
World, your goals, your main goal is
607
00:21:31,195 --> 00:21:34,465
way over there at that castle under,
and, you know, pass all those hills.
608
00:21:34,495 --> 00:21:35,005
Okay.
609
00:21:35,505 --> 00:21:38,655
Along the way, there's all these
little stops that you have to stop.
610
00:21:38,655 --> 00:21:38,715
Yeah.
611
00:21:38,715 --> 00:21:39,855
Those are your shorter goals.
612
00:21:39,885 --> 00:21:40,125
Yeah.
613
00:21:40,185 --> 00:21:43,545
Those are the ones that you work on
in the moment that you try to attain,
614
00:21:43,815 --> 00:21:45,225
and once you attain them, you go.
615
00:21:45,675 --> 00:21:46,065
Got it.
616
00:21:46,245 --> 00:21:46,875
Moving on.
617
00:21:46,875 --> 00:21:47,415
Yeah, I like that.
618
00:21:47,415 --> 00:21:50,265
Let's move on to the next one, and
then you, before you know it, you're
619
00:21:50,265 --> 00:21:53,745
at the castle and you're looking
back and you're going, holy shit.
620
00:21:53,895 --> 00:21:54,435
I'm here.
621
00:21:54,555 --> 00:21:54,855
Yeah.
622
00:21:54,945 --> 00:21:55,575
I'm, I made it.
623
00:21:55,580 --> 00:21:55,810
Yeah.
624
00:21:56,115 --> 00:21:59,925
And I've, I've knocked back a lot
of different things, you know, it
625
00:21:59,925 --> 00:22:02,415
just takes, it takes being present.
626
00:22:02,915 --> 00:22:04,895
That's the hard part for you.
627
00:22:04,895 --> 00:22:06,125
And I don't mean that in a negative way.
628
00:22:06,245 --> 00:22:06,635
It it does.
629
00:22:06,635 --> 00:22:07,655
No, that's not
630
00:22:07,750 --> 00:22:07,830
negative
631
00:22:08,135 --> 00:22:08,205
for me.
632
00:22:08,205 --> 00:22:10,265
You, you are, you are everywhere.
633
00:22:10,355 --> 00:22:12,005
Like you have a lot of
stuff that you're thinking
634
00:22:12,005 --> 00:22:12,125
about.
635
00:22:12,270 --> 00:22:12,470
I do.
636
00:22:12,650 --> 00:22:18,520
Um, and I hold myself at
a very high area like.
637
00:22:19,150 --> 00:22:19,720
What do you call that?
638
00:22:19,870 --> 00:22:20,860
My little pedestal on a
639
00:22:20,860 --> 00:22:21,430
pedestal?
640
00:22:21,550 --> 00:22:22,120
I don't know.
641
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:23,530
You put yourself on a pedestal.
642
00:22:23,530 --> 00:22:23,590
I
643
00:22:23,590 --> 00:22:24,520
put myself on a pedestal.
644
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,160
Like I wanna make sure that I'm doing
everything and I'm saying everything,
645
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,400
and that my work relationship is good.
646
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:31,630
My home relationship is good.
647
00:22:31,630 --> 00:22:35,960
My relationship with you is good
and so yeah, I have a lot of, dude,
648
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,760
you're talking to a perfectionist man.
649
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:39,040
I understand that.
650
00:22:39,070 --> 00:22:41,710
I, and I'm not saying that
I'm, I'm perfect at what I do.
651
00:22:41,770 --> 00:22:43,210
No, I'm saying internally.
652
00:22:43,270 --> 00:22:43,630
Yeah.
653
00:22:43,810 --> 00:22:44,770
I am a perfectionist.
654
00:22:44,770 --> 00:22:44,950
Yeah.
655
00:22:45,100 --> 00:22:46,930
I want to, I wanna do a great job.
656
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,280
I want do the best.
657
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:52,740
But there is something that I learned
as a musician throughout the years
658
00:22:53,180 --> 00:22:55,940
and I think you've heard me say
this whenever I've had to do a gig
659
00:22:55,940 --> 00:23:01,930
or I've had to sing for whoever you
can plan and practice and prepare.
660
00:23:02,375 --> 00:23:03,425
Only so much.
661
00:23:03,935 --> 00:23:07,415
And then when you're in the
moment, you have to be of mentality
662
00:23:07,415 --> 00:23:10,085
that things could go wrong.
663
00:23:10,415 --> 00:23:11,045
Yes.
664
00:23:11,375 --> 00:23:15,275
And if they go wrong, you
just dance your way out of it.
665
00:23:15,335 --> 00:23:15,665
Yeah.
666
00:23:15,905 --> 00:23:17,435
And you just keep moving.
667
00:23:17,585 --> 00:23:17,735
Yeah.
668
00:23:17,765 --> 00:23:21,855
Because I've had, I've, I've had
concerts where I've prepared, and
669
00:23:21,855 --> 00:23:24,195
things were perfect and in the moment.
670
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,590
At the performance, things
happened that screwed things up.
671
00:23:28,590 --> 00:23:28,650
Yeah.
672
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:29,700
And it didn't go my way.
673
00:23:29,730 --> 00:23:29,820
Yeah.
674
00:23:29,820 --> 00:23:33,360
And I could have sat there and
I could have just made my life
675
00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:35,550
just mourn this situation.
676
00:23:35,610 --> 00:23:35,820
Yeah.
677
00:23:35,910 --> 00:23:37,080
But it happens.
678
00:23:37,350 --> 00:23:38,190
It's just it.
679
00:23:38,340 --> 00:23:42,840
You work your way through it and
you move along and I think that you
680
00:23:42,870 --> 00:23:44,370
put a lot of pressure on yourself.
681
00:23:44,730 --> 00:23:45,450
I do.
682
00:23:45,450 --> 00:23:48,870
And so I am sometimes just not present.
683
00:23:49,275 --> 00:23:51,195
Like my brain just takes off.
684
00:23:51,285 --> 00:23:51,555
Yeah.
685
00:23:51,915 --> 00:23:56,205
And so I'm going to I made
myself a little compartment.
686
00:23:56,705 --> 00:23:57,545
It's in my brain.
687
00:23:57,815 --> 00:23:58,565
It's right here.
688
00:23:58,865 --> 00:23:59,705
It says boo bear.
689
00:24:00,205 --> 00:24:03,745
And I'm gonna try to be better.
690
00:24:03,745 --> 00:24:06,955
Like I, again, I do not always
have to have compersion.
691
00:24:07,465 --> 00:24:07,675
Yeah,
692
00:24:07,830 --> 00:24:08,120
yeah.
693
00:24:08,365 --> 00:24:12,955
I don't always have to
enjoy your wins out loud.
694
00:24:13,525 --> 00:24:13,735
True,
695
00:24:13,945 --> 00:24:22,130
but having conversations about 'em,
talking it through and just being open
696
00:24:22,130 --> 00:24:26,960
and trans and transparent is what I'm,
you know, it's what I'm really, I mean,
697
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:32,510
I'm already open and transparent, but
to bring that part of me to you Yeah.
698
00:24:32,540 --> 00:24:34,010
Is what I'm gonna really work on.
699
00:24:34,010 --> 00:24:34,370
So, you
700
00:24:34,370 --> 00:24:36,620
know, I think there's something
that, that's real pivotal
701
00:24:36,620 --> 00:24:38,690
for both of us to remember.
702
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,370
Every, every day.
703
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,540
And that's that you and I
are are just different Yeah.
704
00:24:44,570 --> 00:24:46,250
As, as similar as we are.
705
00:24:46,250 --> 00:24:47,420
And we are very similar.
706
00:24:47,420 --> 00:24:49,250
We're similar in so many aspects.
707
00:24:49,255 --> 00:24:49,305
Yeah.
708
00:24:49,310 --> 00:24:49,340
Yeah.
709
00:24:49,340 --> 00:24:50,960
But we are different.
710
00:24:50,990 --> 00:24:53,995
We are different when it comes
to non-monogamy and mm-hmm.
711
00:24:54,110 --> 00:24:58,130
What our preferences are and what our
lifes are and, and what we don't like.
712
00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:59,960
We're just different people and,
713
00:24:59,960 --> 00:25:01,280
but we're different in a lot of things.
714
00:25:01,310 --> 00:25:01,730
Yes.
715
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,770
Like we are totally different.
716
00:25:03,770 --> 00:25:06,780
And it was so funny 'cause we were
talking about this last night, we're like.
717
00:25:07,295 --> 00:25:07,535
Wow.
718
00:25:07,535 --> 00:25:08,675
We're just so different.
719
00:25:08,705 --> 00:25:12,715
We are, we're different in
the way we raise our children.
720
00:25:12,715 --> 00:25:14,275
I mean, we do it together, right?
721
00:25:14,275 --> 00:25:17,545
So it took a lot of us talking
about it to get to this point.
722
00:25:18,235 --> 00:25:19,885
We raise our children differently.
723
00:25:19,885 --> 00:25:20,905
You have different values.
724
00:25:20,905 --> 00:25:22,135
I have different values.
725
00:25:22,135 --> 00:25:24,295
We clean the house differently.
726
00:25:24,685 --> 00:25:26,455
We do our laundry differently.
727
00:25:26,455 --> 00:25:28,645
We do a lot of things differently.
728
00:25:28,745 --> 00:25:29,195
What.
729
00:25:29,580 --> 00:25:32,310
What you feel is important isn't
the same thing that I feel is
730
00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:33,750
important, but we make it work.
731
00:25:33,750 --> 00:25:39,120
And if we make everything work at home, we
can make this work and it, it has worked.
732
00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:41,190
It has worked for this many years.
733
00:25:41,820 --> 00:25:43,200
I am not unhappy.
734
00:25:43,740 --> 00:25:45,750
I am in a very happy marriage.
735
00:25:45,750 --> 00:25:47,730
I'm in a very happy relationship.
736
00:25:47,970 --> 00:25:49,830
I'm very happy with myself.
737
00:25:49,860 --> 00:25:53,390
I'm very happy with my life, period.
738
00:25:53,890 --> 00:25:56,140
I could change some
things, but nothing here.
739
00:25:56,350 --> 00:25:57,040
Nothing here.
740
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,590
Like this is, this is, this
is 100 relationship good?
741
00:25:59,590 --> 00:26:00,160
Yeah.
742
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:00,170
Yeah.
743
00:26:00,220 --> 00:26:00,760
This is good.
744
00:26:01,150 --> 00:26:04,930
I could work to do better on
certain things and that is one of
745
00:26:04,930 --> 00:26:11,710
my goals for 2026 is to make little
tiny goals and that one right
746
00:26:11,710 --> 00:26:15,460
there is to be more open and not.
747
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,710
I see negativity in a lot of people,
and that's just a, that's just me.
748
00:26:19,710 --> 00:26:24,000
I see red flags in everybody, but when
somebody upsets me or when somebody
749
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,730
does something to that triggers me.
750
00:26:28,230 --> 00:26:32,610
I have to learn to just move past it and
not say, and not think, oh, they did that
751
00:26:32,610 --> 00:26:36,270
on purpose because had somebody known
that they did that, they wouldn't do that.
752
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:36,650
Right.
753
00:26:36,650 --> 00:26:39,860
And so, uh, there's a lot of stuff
that have been misunderstandings
754
00:26:39,860 --> 00:26:40,610
or miscommunications.
755
00:26:40,610 --> 00:26:40,670
Yeah.
756
00:26:41,650 --> 00:26:42,850
And for both of us Yeah.
757
00:26:42,910 --> 00:26:45,130
Where we've just been
like, well, screw this.
758
00:26:45,130 --> 00:26:46,090
I'm walking away from that.
759
00:26:46,120 --> 00:26:46,210
Yeah.
760
00:26:46,210 --> 00:26:48,670
And it's like, oh, that
was a misunderstanding.
761
00:26:48,790 --> 00:26:49,090
Yeah.
762
00:26:49,090 --> 00:26:49,300
Okay.
763
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,300
And so, and because negative
things will stay with me
764
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:54,850
longer than the positive stuff.
765
00:26:55,090 --> 00:26:55,420
Yeah.
766
00:26:55,420 --> 00:26:59,020
Well, you know, that's really
something big to work on.
767
00:26:59,140 --> 00:27:00,460
Yeah, that's a big one.
768
00:27:00,460 --> 00:27:02,200
And I think it's totally doable.
769
00:27:02,710 --> 00:27:06,250
For me, the thing that I'm working
on this year, because a lot has
770
00:27:06,250 --> 00:27:10,830
happened in this past year and
the podcast has really taken off.
771
00:27:10,830 --> 00:27:16,680
Things are changing and, uh, you know,
since getting laid off in August this
772
00:27:16,770 --> 00:27:22,380
entire world, the lifestyle world, the
podcast world, this is my home now.
773
00:27:22,470 --> 00:27:23,730
This is where I live, okay?
774
00:27:24,330 --> 00:27:26,405
And content creation and all of that.
775
00:27:26,905 --> 00:27:32,665
Evidently I have a little bit
of A-D-H-D-A little bit, and I
776
00:27:32,665 --> 00:27:34,045
struggle to focus a little bit.
777
00:27:34,045 --> 00:27:37,375
I struggle to get myself
my time management mm-hmm.
778
00:27:37,615 --> 00:27:38,455
Uh, on the level.
779
00:27:38,945 --> 00:27:46,640
And so that is my focus in 2026,
is to get myself 100% on a good.
780
00:27:47,335 --> 00:27:49,495
System, a time management system.
781
00:27:49,495 --> 00:27:53,645
I've already worked on my calendar
and I'm ready to get things going.
782
00:27:53,885 --> 00:27:53,975
Mm-hmm.
783
00:27:54,215 --> 00:27:57,245
Uh, also the other thing that
I'm adding to our Beyond Monogamy
784
00:27:57,245 --> 00:28:01,355
arsenal is that, I am getting
back, getting back on my bullshit.
785
00:28:01,405 --> 00:28:05,950
I'm actually, I'm getting back
into a, a healthier lifestyle.
786
00:28:06,010 --> 00:28:06,100
Yes.
787
00:28:06,460 --> 00:28:07,090
We both are.
788
00:28:07,150 --> 00:28:07,360
Yeah.
789
00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:12,130
For those of you who don't know,
when I turned 40, I lost a lot
790
00:28:12,130 --> 00:28:14,080
of weight because I got afraid.
791
00:28:14,380 --> 00:28:17,020
I had a lot of friends of mine
that were around my age that were
792
00:28:17,020 --> 00:28:18,460
starting to have like mm-hmm.
793
00:28:18,700 --> 00:28:22,060
Cardiac issues and high blood
pressure, and I was like, hell no.
794
00:28:22,060 --> 00:28:22,780
I need to fix this.
795
00:28:23,140 --> 00:28:25,220
I ended up, taking things very seriously.
796
00:28:25,220 --> 00:28:28,460
It became more of a, I don't
have a choice in this situation.
797
00:28:28,460 --> 00:28:32,660
And I started working out every single day
and I became very serious about my health
798
00:28:33,230 --> 00:28:37,710
and I lost over a hundred pounds and
things went great, and then I lost my job.
799
00:28:38,210 --> 00:28:43,130
This past year and things kind of
went into a chaotic whirlwind, uh,
800
00:28:43,130 --> 00:28:44,690
a fight or flight, if you will.
801
00:28:44,750 --> 00:28:47,810
And we eat our emotions.
802
00:28:47,870 --> 00:28:48,080
We
803
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:48,470
do,
804
00:28:48,470 --> 00:28:50,570
and we are an emotional people.
805
00:28:50,990 --> 00:28:54,230
And then something happens
when you eat bad food, it
806
00:28:54,230 --> 00:28:55,580
makes you want to stay in bed.
807
00:28:55,580 --> 00:28:58,730
It makes you want to not get
up in the mornings and it makes
808
00:28:58,730 --> 00:28:59,810
you not want to go to the gym.
809
00:29:00,140 --> 00:29:03,560
And then when you do that for a couple
of weeks, then it just becomes justified
810
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:04,910
and it's like, oh, this is me now.
811
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:05,480
Yes.
812
00:29:05,510 --> 00:29:05,660
Uh.
813
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:11,560
I am going to be, uh, bringing that
element into our content creation and
814
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,600
just kind of for those people who are
interested in a healthier, living,
815
00:29:15,870 --> 00:29:19,020
healthier lifestyle, maybe talking
about fitness and stuff like that.
816
00:29:19,050 --> 00:29:23,070
I'll have a little bit of that in there,
uh, on our YouTube channel and things like
817
00:29:23,070 --> 00:29:24,960
that from from a different standpoint.
818
00:29:25,630 --> 00:29:26,560
We're not professionals.
819
00:29:26,590 --> 00:29:27,670
We are not professionals.
820
00:29:27,670 --> 00:29:30,700
Not mean what works for us doesn't
mean it, it wouldn't work for
821
00:29:30,910 --> 00:29:31,210
anybody
822
00:29:31,210 --> 00:29:31,420
else.
823
00:29:31,420 --> 00:29:35,590
I, uh, but it's the same thing as
our experiences in non-monogamy.
824
00:29:35,620 --> 00:29:35,770
Yes.
825
00:29:36,100 --> 00:29:37,360
We are not professionals.
826
00:29:37,420 --> 00:29:37,480
No.
827
00:29:37,580 --> 00:29:40,370
This is our relationship
that you're listening to.
828
00:29:40,370 --> 00:29:41,420
This is our life.
829
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:41,600
We're
830
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:41,810
not
831
00:29:42,170 --> 00:29:44,030
couches, we are not sex couches.
832
00:29:44,060 --> 00:29:45,680
But you can sit on me anytime you want.
833
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:46,250
You know what I'm saying?
834
00:29:46,610 --> 00:29:47,240
Uh, you know.
835
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:54,045
What we do and how we do it
is it, it's the map for us.
836
00:29:54,045 --> 00:29:54,105
Yeah.
837
00:29:54,135 --> 00:29:57,585
And we're constantly erasing
and changing direction.
838
00:29:57,705 --> 00:29:57,885
Yes.
839
00:29:58,335 --> 00:30:02,985
And that's really the takeaway
if you're in a relationship, is
840
00:30:03,615 --> 00:30:06,465
what works for us may not work for
you, but you need to know that.
841
00:30:06,965 --> 00:30:08,675
There's no set of rules.
842
00:30:08,885 --> 00:30:09,845
You make the rules.
843
00:30:10,055 --> 00:30:11,195
Yes, this is your world
844
00:30:11,525 --> 00:30:15,185
and you and your partner don't
always have to have the same
845
00:30:15,485 --> 00:30:17,855
mindset, but you do have to agree.
846
00:30:17,975 --> 00:30:18,305
Yes,
847
00:30:18,425 --> 00:30:19,445
you have to agree.
848
00:30:19,445 --> 00:30:20,165
So, yeah.
849
00:30:20,195 --> 00:30:21,965
Yes, we lifestyle differently.
850
00:30:22,115 --> 00:30:22,475
You have to
851
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:22,960
compromise.
852
00:30:23,020 --> 00:30:23,240
But
853
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,195
we compromise, we understand, and.
854
00:30:26,885 --> 00:30:27,545
We talk.
855
00:30:27,545 --> 00:30:28,505
We talk about it.
856
00:30:28,925 --> 00:30:31,355
And if it doesn't work for
me, it doesn't work for me.
857
00:30:31,355 --> 00:30:33,245
If it doesn't work for him,
it doesn't work for him.
858
00:30:33,245 --> 00:30:35,060
Like it's compromise.
859
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:35,330
Yeah.
860
00:30:35,395 --> 00:30:35,635
Know.
861
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,020
Know your limits also
know your hard boundaries.
862
00:30:39,140 --> 00:30:39,320
Yeah.
863
00:30:39,620 --> 00:30:42,860
Know what you're willing to
compromise with and what your hard
864
00:30:42,860 --> 00:30:47,120
boundaries are, because the hard
boundaries are not to be compromised.
865
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:47,180
Yeah.
866
00:30:47,210 --> 00:30:52,040
And if you are at a hard boundary and
it's looking like somebody wants to
867
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,510
compromise it, you need to speak up.
868
00:30:53,565 --> 00:30:53,655
Yes.
869
00:30:53,685 --> 00:30:54,765
You need to vocalize it.
870
00:30:54,795 --> 00:30:54,945
Yeah.
871
00:30:55,215 --> 00:30:59,355
And ensure that you don't end up in a
situation you don't want to end up in.
872
00:30:59,745 --> 00:31:01,755
And I think that happens
for a lot of people.
873
00:31:01,755 --> 00:31:07,085
I think people forget that their
hard boundaries should not be pushed.
874
00:31:07,445 --> 00:31:07,655
Yeah.
875
00:31:07,805 --> 00:31:07,895
Yeah.
876
00:31:07,895 --> 00:31:10,025
Um, voice your opinions.
877
00:31:10,385 --> 00:31:15,035
I don't know what your special thing
that you wanna work on for the year is.
878
00:31:15,035 --> 00:31:16,510
I don't know what you want to do.
879
00:31:17,010 --> 00:31:22,890
With your 2026, all I know is what we're
gonna be doing with our 2026, and that's
880
00:31:22,890 --> 00:31:26,000
where we're gonna be working on growing,
we're gonna be working on getting better.
881
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:26,120
Yes.
882
00:31:26,550 --> 00:31:31,915
At whatever that means for us as a couple,
whatever that means for us individually,
883
00:31:32,305 --> 00:31:34,345
we're just trying to better ourselves and.
884
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,380
You know, when you try to better
yourself and you realize that you are
885
00:31:38,380 --> 00:31:44,140
bettering yourself, it's a very freeing
and happy feeling to know that, you
886
00:31:44,140 --> 00:31:46,645
know, you're, you're here, there's
always room for, and you were here.
887
00:31:46,750 --> 00:31:47,920
There's always room for growth.
888
00:31:48,100 --> 00:31:49,030
There's always room for growth.
889
00:31:49,060 --> 00:31:50,020
Always room for growth.
890
00:31:50,050 --> 00:31:50,170
Yeah.
891
00:31:50,170 --> 00:31:50,470
So,
892
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:51,310
absolutely.
893
00:31:51,310 --> 00:31:52,900
I wanted to share that.
894
00:31:53,740 --> 00:31:58,990
That's one thing that I am trying to
grow and trying to be better at, and
895
00:31:59,080 --> 00:31:59,860
I appreciate that.
896
00:32:00,340 --> 00:32:00,760
Thanks.
897
00:32:00,790 --> 00:32:01,810
I do appreciate that.
898
00:32:02,230 --> 00:32:06,400
And you know, I, I think that 2026 is
gonna be a very interesting year for us.
899
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,810
2025 was a real interesting year
because you guys got introduced to
900
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,810
confident Adam 2025 saw confident Adam.
901
00:32:13,810 --> 00:32:16,960
And let me tell you he needs
go back in his little Yeah, I
902
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:17,830
found out a little something.
903
00:32:17,830 --> 00:32:20,590
I found out that I'm a, a little,
a little charming apparently.
904
00:32:21,220 --> 00:32:23,380
I've been told by some ladies
that I'm a little charming
905
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:24,310
and I gotta say, I've already
906
00:32:24,310 --> 00:32:24,820
told them that.
907
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:26,040
He was charming.
908
00:32:26,190 --> 00:32:29,310
This is where we go with the
whole com compersion thing.
909
00:32:29,310 --> 00:32:30,570
It's like, hello.
910
00:32:30,780 --> 00:32:32,400
A win is a win for both of us.
911
00:32:32,490 --> 00:32:33,240
Oh, whatever.
912
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:33,840
Okay.
913
00:32:34,410 --> 00:32:35,310
Yeah, keep working on that.
914
00:32:35,310 --> 00:32:36,270
It's not 2026.
915
00:32:36,270 --> 00:32:36,945
So she's got That's 20.
916
00:32:37,395 --> 00:32:38,160
She's got a buffer.
917
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:38,880
She's got a buffer.
918
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:39,120
It's okay.
919
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:39,660
Few days.
920
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:40,140
That's right.
921
00:32:40,290 --> 00:32:40,830
You take your time.
922
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:42,020
But.
923
00:32:42,860 --> 00:32:45,170
2026 is gonna be a big
year for Beyond Monogamy.
924
00:32:45,170 --> 00:32:47,660
We've got a lot going on, we've
got a lot of traveling to do.
925
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,300
Uh, we're gonna be in a
lot of different places.
926
00:32:50,300 --> 00:32:54,350
If you haven't heard yet and you want
to keep up with where we're going,
927
00:32:54,350 --> 00:32:57,590
what we're doing, you want to hang out
with us, you know that you can go to
928
00:32:57,590 --> 00:33:05,000
our website, www.beyond-monogamy.com,
you hit that events tab and you have
929
00:33:05,300 --> 00:33:07,970
access to everywhere we're gonna be.
930
00:33:08,210 --> 00:33:08,360
Yes.
931
00:33:08,390 --> 00:33:09,920
And you know, if you want to hang out.
932
00:33:10,445 --> 00:33:11,135
That's all you gotta do.
933
00:33:11,135 --> 00:33:12,005
You just gotta show up.
934
00:33:12,425 --> 00:33:13,055
That's not bad.
935
00:33:13,205 --> 00:33:13,385
Yes.
936
00:33:13,415 --> 00:33:18,275
But while you are there
www.beyond-monogamy.com, be sure
937
00:33:18,605 --> 00:33:22,805
and hit that little merch tab or
the store tab because in the store
938
00:33:22,805 --> 00:33:26,405
tab there's all sorts of merchandise
that my lovely wife has created.
939
00:33:26,915 --> 00:33:27,545
Uh, that be me.
940
00:33:27,695 --> 00:33:29,045
And let me tell you something.
941
00:33:29,045 --> 00:33:32,885
If you're a big believer in
wanting to wear something that
942
00:33:32,885 --> 00:33:34,415
very few people are wearing.
943
00:33:35,005 --> 00:33:38,575
The only people that are wearing
beyond monogamy merchandise are these
944
00:33:38,575 --> 00:33:40,165
two people here on the TV Uhhuh.
945
00:33:40,585 --> 00:33:40,855
And
946
00:33:40,855 --> 00:33:43,130
if you were wearing it, you would be.
947
00:33:43,630 --> 00:33:44,950
Part of the special club.
948
00:33:45,460 --> 00:33:48,220
I'm just saying, I'm just saying you
could be a part of that special club.
949
00:33:48,220 --> 00:33:48,850
That would be amazing.
950
00:33:49,090 --> 00:33:52,370
And also please keep a watch
on all of our social medias.
951
00:33:52,370 --> 00:33:55,670
We're gonna be doing some
little different things and all
952
00:33:55,670 --> 00:33:57,050
of that is gonna be growing.
953
00:33:57,050 --> 00:34:00,530
We have a group of people that have
been joining us and they're gonna
954
00:34:00,530 --> 00:34:04,790
be starting to post stuff or beyond
monogamy and events and stuff.
955
00:34:04,790 --> 00:34:05,330
Yes.
956
00:34:05,330 --> 00:34:06,920
Lots of big stuff happening.
957
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:07,610
Lots of different changes.
958
00:34:07,610 --> 00:34:10,700
We're gonna have some really
interesting guests this coming year.
959
00:34:10,970 --> 00:34:11,510
Uh, we.
960
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:17,480
Our guest, uh, schedule is pretty
much filled till mid-February
961
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:18,795
already, so that's good.
962
00:34:18,795 --> 00:34:22,060
Uh, so we tend to keep our
shows well greased and oiled.
963
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,460
We've got a lineup for the year.
964
00:34:24,460 --> 00:34:26,890
I'm literally you know,
getting things scheduled.
965
00:34:27,220 --> 00:34:30,430
It's gonna be a very, very
fun beyond monogamy here.
966
00:34:30,430 --> 00:34:34,120
So if you are in there, you are
following us, you are listening to
967
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,980
us, and you want to be a part of us.
968
00:34:36,715 --> 00:34:39,595
All you gotta do is interact
with us because we're looking
969
00:34:39,595 --> 00:34:42,415
for people all over the US Yes.
970
00:34:42,415 --> 00:34:44,905
That we can make part of our community.
971
00:34:45,055 --> 00:34:45,505
Yes.
972
00:34:45,775 --> 00:34:49,255
That we can turn to and say,
Hey, we are coming to your town
973
00:34:49,255 --> 00:34:50,755
and we would love to hang out.
974
00:34:50,755 --> 00:34:51,625
Maybe grab a dinner.
975
00:34:51,625 --> 00:34:52,825
Maybe you could show us the town.
976
00:34:53,245 --> 00:34:54,835
If you wanna be that for us.
977
00:34:55,435 --> 00:34:57,895
You go to that website, you hit us up.
978
00:34:57,895 --> 00:34:59,755
You can leave us a voicemail, an email.
979
00:34:59,875 --> 00:35:02,155
You can hit us up on
social medias everywhere.
980
00:35:02,515 --> 00:35:03,505
One last thing.
981
00:35:04,005 --> 00:35:07,415
While you're there at the
website beyond monogamy
982
00:35:07,415 --> 00:35:10,535
confessional, it's 100% anonymous.
983
00:35:10,535 --> 00:35:13,505
You go over there, you
tell us whatever you want.
984
00:35:13,505 --> 00:35:17,045
You tell us your wild stories, what
happened at the club last night.
985
00:35:17,285 --> 00:35:23,325
You tell us, your real true feelings
about non-monogamy, maybe what's happening
986
00:35:23,325 --> 00:35:25,005
in your life, you know, whatever.
987
00:35:25,605 --> 00:35:27,580
We can be that person that you don't.
988
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,315
I may have to go on that for the question.
989
00:35:29,315 --> 00:35:31,770
Have anybody to talk to
you, talk to the confession.
990
00:35:32,130 --> 00:35:33,840
So give it a shot.
991
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,000
I guarantee you it, it is very freeing.
992
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,200
You'll love it and you'll get yourself
heard on the show 'cause there you go.
993
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,460
That's what these quickies are for.
994
00:35:41,850 --> 00:35:43,650
Uh, so yeah, be sure and check that out.
995
00:35:43,650 --> 00:35:48,345
Also, we're on, uh, fullswapradio.com
every Thursday from, 2:00
996
00:35:48,345 --> 00:35:50,550
PM and 7:00 PM Central Time.
997
00:35:50,550 --> 00:35:51,900
So be sure and check us out there.
998
00:35:52,300 --> 00:35:56,590
And as always, we really, really
appreciate you guys listening to us
999
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,860
and watching us sometimes on the tv.
1000
00:36:00,310 --> 00:36:03,730
Uh, but we really appreciate you guys
just being a part of our family, being
1001
00:36:03,730 --> 00:36:05,260
a part of the Beyond Monogamy family.
1002
00:36:05,650 --> 00:36:08,980
Uh, and with that, we will
see you guys next year.
1003
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Bye.