Swinger Age Limits? The Truth About Age in the Lifestyle

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Couches.

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And.

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Hello, and welcome to another
episode of Beyond Monogamy.

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I'm Adam.

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And I'm Pris.

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And today we are talking about
something that I think a lot of people

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quietly wonder about, but not a lot
of people actually say out loud what

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age is too old to be in the lifestyle?

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And the flip side of it,
what age is too young?

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Is there a prime age?

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Is there a point where you just age out?

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Or is that all just something
people worry about in their heads?

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Now I gotta tell you this, this topic
actually came up because a good friend

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of mine recently went through a divorce.

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He started to rebuild his life.

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Mm-hmm.

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Mm-hmm.

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Uh, started exploring new things
and he reached out to me because

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he was kind of wondering.

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He said he, he's been following us.

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He was interested in
exploring the lifestyle.

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Uh, but he said, man, I, I
think I might be too old.

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Or the lifestyle.

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He a old motherfucker.

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I'm just kidding.

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He's not, he's not
even, he's not even old.

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He's not, he's not,

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I mean, he's maybe, I don't know,
10, 10, 12 years older than me.

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Yeah, just

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a little.

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Yeah.

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I just don't want, I, I

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He looks great.

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Yeah.

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I, I always thought so and so
I was like completely thrown

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off by, I was like, what?

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Because if you've actually spent
any time in the lifestyle community,

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you know that the reality is very
different from what people imagine.

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So today we're gonna go into talking
about age in the lifestyle, the

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myths, the reality, what people worry
about and what actually matters.

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Ooh.

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Alright.

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So the question that everybody
seems to wonder is, am I too

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old for the lifestyle Now?

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This was something that, that my
friend had had thrown out there.

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Now I, I wanna say I, if I were
to, you know, hazard a guess, I

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don't even think the guy is 60,

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I don't think.

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No, I'm 43.

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You're gonna be 44?

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I'm gonna be 44.

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I'm gonna be 48.

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You're gonna be 48.

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Uh, we are in our forties.

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Yeah.

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I wanna forties say he's in his
late fifties or maybe early.

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I would think so.

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Yeah.

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You know, but what I told him was,
and this is kind of my go-to for this

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mm-hmm.

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Is that, you know, I, I personally
have seen, I've seen older people carry

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themselves younger and I've seen younger
people carry themselves themselves older.

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When I was in the seminary I used to go
to school with this guy who was maybe

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two years older than me, and I was 20.

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Oh, that's right.

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He was 22 and he carried
himself like a little old man,

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and he still does to this day.

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I think he's in his forties now and
he's still, doing that whole, you know,

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crumpled over and he speaks very softly
and he carries himself like an old man.

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Of course.

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That's the seminary now.

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I've met other people like that
out in the world, in the lifestyle.

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Mm-hmm.

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I have met older women

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Who are actually pretty fucking sexy.

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Yeah.

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And I think you've met some
older men that you found sexy.

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Yes.

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I, I like, I like older men.

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Yeah.

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So, yeah, I don't like.

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I don't, I'm not down for a baby face
i'm not that, I'm not that chick.

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I used to be that chick when I
was little, when I was younger.

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I used to be that.

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Ooh, I like the baby face.

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Is

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that right?

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Yeah.

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So how young are we talking about
when, when you were younger?

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I mean, I think I've always been
attracted to that baby face up until, I

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don't know, I got into like my thirties.

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Yeah, my thirties.

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I was like, mm. Yeah, we don't,

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do you remember when it switched?

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Like what, when the first time you saw
an older guy and you were like, oh shit.

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So I think you, you had the
salt and pepper and I love that.

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Yeah.

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So when I got with you,
you had salt and pepper.

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Yeah.

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Like it was just little bit whites and
then it just started getting whiter.

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So I love the older salt and pepper look.

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That, just that, that not worn look, but.

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Spin around the block a few times.

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Look, you know,

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well,

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you know, it's, it, the salt and pepper
look right now is in, apparently.

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Oh,

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I think

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so.

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'cause everybody's doing it.

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Yeah.

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And lemme tell you something,
I was doing it in high school

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Yeah.

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When it wasn't so cool.

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And I used to get a lot
of, uh, shit talkers.

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Yeah.

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Who would tell me also,
oh, what's up grandpa?

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Oh man.

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How's it, how's it going?

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Old man.

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And like, this was something
that I dealt with, but my parents

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were always coloring their hair.

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Mm-hmm.

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Constantly coloring their hair.

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And they had to do it like every couple
of weeks because if they didn't, they'd

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end up looking like wild calico cats.

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It was horrible.

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And my father even used to color
his eyebrows and his mustache.

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I mean, like, God mean
we have friends that got

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four different colors.

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Yeah.

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We have friends that do that
because they don't want to grow.

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And, and it's not only men and women.

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I, it took me a long
time to accept my grays

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Yeah.

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And to to, to like them,
because I don't wanna look old.

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Yeah.

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And so that was kind of the struggle
because what has it been like five years?

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No, four years now that you've

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been, um, it's been almost four,

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almost four years That, and

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years before

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you stopped dyeing your hair.

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Mm-hmm.

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And, uh, because she used
to be bright red hair.

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Yeah.

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Uh, and it looked great.

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It was very sexy.

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And it did make you look young.

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Yeah.

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And it's, it's very,
it's two different looks.

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I feel like you can be old.

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I'm 48.

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I feel like I'm older, but
I don't look like I'm 48.

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And this is just me giving
my own assessment to myself.

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Because I remember my mom at 48
and she looked a little, she still

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looked good, but you could tell.

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Years had my dad's shittiness
had taken toll on her.

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Yeah.

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You know, my family's shit has taken
toll on her, and she looks like that.

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Yeah.

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Um, but she still looks great, you know,
I think now, right now, because she

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is whatever, dementia, but she looks
older, but I, so I think stress and

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all that, and you don't, the lifestyle
is, is a place to make you feel sexy.

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So I don't think that you
really have to find it in you.

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If you want to be in the lifestyle
at that age, whatever age you're

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in, you know, if you're older.

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I feel like if you, even if you have
ed issues, so do the younger guys.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Like, that's not an issue.

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We've met a lot of younger guys and I
feel like you, I feel like as a man,

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you're, you're gonna find more help,
like more of a group situation that'll

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help you and, and people like, like a

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support

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group.

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A support group that'll, you know.

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Talk about that or whatever.

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Yeah.

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I feel like if you, if you're scuffing
your feet to walk, you too old.

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Well, you know,

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I mean, there has to be a age.

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So we've had, we had talk, 'cause
I've always been very insecure

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about my age throughout my thirties.

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Yeah.

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And you remember every, every 'cause
we've been together since I was 28.

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Yeah.

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So every year of my thirties
I was getting under the bed.

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I didn't want to get out on my birthday.

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I didn't wanna celebrate my age.

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My thirties were, were difficult.

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Mm-hmm.

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Uh, when I turned 40, uh,
my forties had been great.

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I kind of embraced it, but I remember
very specifically because I've never,

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I've never dyed any of my hair.

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Mm-hmm.

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No dye has ever touched this body.

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No.

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I'm all natural.

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Uh, and I made that decision a
long time ago because I watched my

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parents constantly dye their hair.

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Mm-hmm.

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And watching you dye your hair.

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And I was like.

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Nah, I'm gonna keep it.

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But the struggle for me was I, and
this was, gosh, maybe five years ago.

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Something like that.

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I had a moment where I sat
back 'cause I was, I have white

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hairs coming out in my mustache.

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So when I initially started
coming out with the beard

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Yeah.

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Uh, you know, it was white
over all around, but around

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the mustache it was real dark.

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And the goatee area, it was darker.

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Yeah.

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Well, now that's going away.

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Yes.

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Uh, I'm starting to get more
white hairs in my eyebrows.

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Yeah.

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You know, stuff like that.

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And I'm like, ah, crap.

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Does the carpet match the drapes?

255
00:09:29,574 --> 00:09:30,174
That's right.

256
00:09:30,474 --> 00:09:31,194
It's all bald.

257
00:09:31,674 --> 00:09:37,734
Um, so, so my thing was, I actually
had looked this up a few years back,

258
00:09:37,734 --> 00:09:40,344
but I was like, maybe I should start,
and I think we had this conversation,

259
00:09:40,674 --> 00:09:42,924
maybe I should start dying.

260
00:09:43,554 --> 00:09:44,814
My mustache a little bit.

261
00:09:45,084 --> 00:09:45,264
Yeah.

262
00:09:45,294 --> 00:09:47,004
Or my eyebrows.

263
00:09:47,064 --> 00:09:47,244
Yeah.

264
00:09:47,304 --> 00:09:49,134
And there are ways that
people have done it.

265
00:09:49,134 --> 00:09:52,604
Like you can, get one of those mascara
brushes and you can get the just for

266
00:09:52,604 --> 00:09:54,164
men and just kind of brush it in.

267
00:09:54,254 --> 00:09:54,494
Yeah.

268
00:09:54,494 --> 00:09:57,474
And that's supposed to take
care of the stray whites.

269
00:09:57,564 --> 00:09:57,714
Yeah.

270
00:09:57,714 --> 00:09:59,604
In your, in, you know, in your
mustache, stuff like that.

271
00:10:00,294 --> 00:10:02,954
And I don't remember who I talked to.

272
00:10:02,954 --> 00:10:06,874
I talked to one of my guy friends
that I, I expressed this to.

273
00:10:06,874 --> 00:10:08,944
I said I wanted to, I
was considering this.

274
00:10:09,694 --> 00:10:13,714
And the reaction was, are
you fucking kidding me?

275
00:10:14,214 --> 00:10:15,444
I don't ever do that.

276
00:10:15,449 --> 00:10:15,519
Yeah.

277
00:10:15,534 --> 00:10:17,514
You have done this for so long.

278
00:10:17,514 --> 00:10:18,414
You've done great.

279
00:10:18,864 --> 00:10:20,394
Uh, you know, you've embraced it.

280
00:10:20,424 --> 00:10:21,174
Why would you

281
00:10:21,414 --> 00:10:21,564
Yeah.

282
00:10:21,594 --> 00:10:22,734
Touch it up like that?

283
00:10:22,734 --> 00:10:24,564
Like, that just doesn't,
like, just go with it.

284
00:10:24,594 --> 00:10:26,064
You know, you don't look old.

285
00:10:26,634 --> 00:10:27,864
And I was like, okay.

286
00:10:27,869 --> 00:10:31,694
But my problem was, is that
we're in this lifestyle.

287
00:10:31,794 --> 00:10:35,784
And you want to, you wanna look your best.

288
00:10:36,624 --> 00:10:39,414
You wanna come off attractive to others,

289
00:10:39,474 --> 00:10:39,744
right?

290
00:10:39,744 --> 00:10:39,804
Yeah.

291
00:10:39,924 --> 00:10:45,564
Um, and I didn't realize at that time
that didn't really play much of a role.

292
00:10:45,714 --> 00:10:48,174
Now I have gotten compliments by women

293
00:10:48,234 --> 00:10:48,504
Yeah.

294
00:10:48,564 --> 00:10:49,104
On this.

295
00:10:49,194 --> 00:10:50,004
Oh, I love the beard.

296
00:10:50,004 --> 00:10:50,904
He's never shaving it.

297
00:10:51,404 --> 00:10:51,764
Never.

298
00:10:51,764 --> 00:10:53,414
But there's a lot of women
who don't care for it either.

299
00:10:53,414 --> 00:10:53,594
Yeah.

300
00:10:53,594 --> 00:10:53,954
That's okay.

301
00:10:54,614 --> 00:10:55,309
It's what it's, but

302
00:10:55,309 --> 00:10:55,429
yeah.

303
00:10:55,574 --> 00:10:57,074
But that was always my fear.

304
00:10:57,074 --> 00:10:57,134
Yeah.

305
00:10:57,134 --> 00:11:00,994
That was, I mean, hell, we used
to go out as a couple and do stuff

306
00:11:00,994 --> 00:11:04,314
around our old hometown and people
thought that I was your dad.

307
00:11:04,494 --> 00:11:04,764
Yeah.

308
00:11:05,004 --> 00:11:06,534
Because I looked way older

309
00:11:06,654 --> 00:11:07,764
and I used to look younger.

310
00:11:08,264 --> 00:11:08,594
I had red hair.

311
00:11:08,924 --> 00:11:08,984
Yeah.

312
00:11:09,044 --> 00:11:09,284
Yeah.

313
00:11:09,284 --> 00:11:10,694
So it was just kind of mismatched.

314
00:11:10,724 --> 00:11:11,024
Yeah.

315
00:11:11,024 --> 00:11:13,784
No, it's, uh, and you have
to feel attractive, right?

316
00:11:13,784 --> 00:11:18,184
So if that, if you're feeling that
the grays and stuff like that are

317
00:11:18,184 --> 00:11:21,514
just making you feel unattractive,
then you're gonna exude that.

318
00:11:21,874 --> 00:11:22,174
Yeah.

319
00:11:22,199 --> 00:11:22,489
Yeah.

320
00:11:22,564 --> 00:11:24,004
So you gotta own that shit.

321
00:11:24,424 --> 00:11:27,934
Well, you know what I, what
I've really noticed is age

322
00:11:27,964 --> 00:11:29,584
has nothing to do with effort.

323
00:11:30,084 --> 00:11:32,064
Just because you're getting
older doesn't mean you have to

324
00:11:32,064 --> 00:11:33,174
stop taking care of yourself.

325
00:11:33,414 --> 00:11:35,184
Doesn't mean that you have
to stop going to the gym.

326
00:11:35,244 --> 00:11:35,304
Yeah.

327
00:11:35,304 --> 00:11:36,534
I understand that things ache.

328
00:11:36,654 --> 00:11:38,604
I understand that things
hurt a little bit more.

329
00:11:39,144 --> 00:11:42,594
Uh, you need a bit more energy,
but take care of yourself,

330
00:11:42,594 --> 00:11:42,644
but take care of yourself.

331
00:11:42,644 --> 00:11:42,654
Mm-hmm.

332
00:11:42,984 --> 00:11:45,444
You know, make sure that your
hair is, is looking nice.

333
00:11:45,444 --> 00:11:47,104
You know, go get a haircut
every now and then.

334
00:11:47,104 --> 00:11:47,249
Yeah.

335
00:11:47,389 --> 00:11:49,944
Uh, make sure if you have a beard
or a mustache, make sure you keep

336
00:11:49,944 --> 00:11:51,289
it trimmed as much as, as often.

337
00:11:51,289 --> 00:11:51,529
Mm-hmm.

338
00:11:51,614 --> 00:11:53,004
Because you never know who
you're gonna walk into.

339
00:11:53,334 --> 00:11:55,824
You never know who, who's gonna
be at the club or whatever.

340
00:11:56,064 --> 00:11:56,124
Yeah.

341
00:11:56,124 --> 00:11:57,384
You just wanna do your best.

342
00:11:57,384 --> 00:12:00,894
And, and it really, that has nothing
to do with age, but something

343
00:12:00,894 --> 00:12:06,194
happens naturally as we get older
where we just kind of care less.

344
00:12:06,694 --> 00:12:06,984
Yeah.

345
00:12:07,489 --> 00:12:07,939
Yeah.

346
00:12:07,999 --> 00:12:10,159
I, you know, that's true.

347
00:12:10,219 --> 00:12:14,299
But I think in the lifestyle
they don't No, they don't care.

348
00:12:14,299 --> 00:12:14,719
Less

349
00:12:14,724 --> 00:12:14,744
eyes.

350
00:12:14,744 --> 00:12:15,224
No, no.

351
00:12:15,224 --> 00:12:16,384
This is good lifestyle.

352
00:12:16,384 --> 00:12:17,009
There's two many eyes.

353
00:12:17,014 --> 00:12:19,414
Now if you're talking vanilla,
that's completely different.

354
00:12:19,414 --> 00:12:19,474
Yeah.

355
00:12:19,474 --> 00:12:20,314
That's, that's completely

356
00:12:20,314 --> 00:12:20,674
different.

357
00:12:20,729 --> 00:12:23,069
If you're looking to start again
and you're going to vanilla

358
00:12:23,069 --> 00:12:24,509
bars and doing all of that.

359
00:12:25,059 --> 00:12:25,869
You're gonna struggle.

360
00:12:25,929 --> 00:12:26,319
Yeah.

361
00:12:26,819 --> 00:12:31,619
Be you wanna look your best, because
again, that's gonna exude your sexiness.

362
00:12:31,619 --> 00:12:35,249
That's a, that's gonna
exude everything about you.

363
00:12:35,699 --> 00:12:36,119
Yeah.

364
00:12:36,119 --> 00:12:42,774
You know, I, I had a, a fear that
I felt was, uh, a natural fear when

365
00:12:42,774 --> 00:12:44,394
we first started in the lifestyle.

366
00:12:44,394 --> 00:12:47,144
Mm. We were relatively
young, early thirties.

367
00:12:47,204 --> 00:12:47,294
Yeah.

368
00:12:47,794 --> 00:12:52,929
And I remember looking for
people who were in our age group,

369
00:12:53,134 --> 00:12:54,334
and I remember going mm-hmm.

370
00:12:54,634 --> 00:12:56,684
And looking through all
of these websites mm-hmm.

371
00:12:57,034 --> 00:13:01,714
And thinking, gosh, there are
significantly older people

372
00:13:02,344 --> 00:13:03,484
or when they were my age.

373
00:13:03,484 --> 00:13:06,024
And I'd be like, God, wow.

374
00:13:06,694 --> 00:13:07,714
Take care of yourself.

375
00:13:07,744 --> 00:13:07,954
Yeah.

376
00:13:07,954 --> 00:13:10,174
And that was the amazing
thing was, is, is that.

377
00:13:10,699 --> 00:13:13,429
A lot of these people that were
our age, they didn't really take

378
00:13:13,429 --> 00:13:14,419
care of themselves very well.

379
00:13:14,419 --> 00:13:14,479
No.

380
00:13:14,479 --> 00:13:16,974
They were heavy drinkers and
it kind of showed mm-hmm.

381
00:13:17,054 --> 00:13:18,094
Or heavy smokers.

382
00:13:18,094 --> 00:13:18,414
Mm-hmm.

383
00:13:18,494 --> 00:13:18,884
And it kind of showed kind of

384
00:13:18,884 --> 00:13:19,759
shows.

385
00:13:19,909 --> 00:13:20,029
Yeah.

386
00:13:20,059 --> 00:13:23,749
Uh, you know, and, and, and they just
didn't take care of themselves very well.

387
00:13:23,749 --> 00:13:23,809
Yeah.

388
00:13:24,229 --> 00:13:25,579
Uh, that all makes a difference.

389
00:13:25,879 --> 00:13:27,469
It has nothing to do with your age.

390
00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:27,829
No.

391
00:13:27,879 --> 00:13:32,919
Now we have been asked is
they're too young for us.

392
00:13:33,459 --> 00:13:39,129
Now, that varies for a lot of people,
but for us, we make it a point not to do

393
00:13:39,129 --> 00:13:44,439
anything with anybody younger than our
oldest kid, because that's just weird.

394
00:13:44,529 --> 00:13:45,489
I go a little bit older.

395
00:13:45,969 --> 00:13:48,609
For men, men I want, I want older.

396
00:13:48,969 --> 00:13:52,599
Well, plus you want to be
able to, um, relate to them.

397
00:13:52,689 --> 00:13:53,499
Yeah.

398
00:13:53,499 --> 00:13:56,139
You can't really relate to somebody
who's maybe 10 years younger.

399
00:13:56,589 --> 00:13:59,199
I feel like the sex is just
better with an older person.

400
00:13:59,919 --> 00:14:02,199
They take their time, they
know a little bit more.

401
00:14:02,199 --> 00:14:02,589
They're willing

402
00:14:02,589 --> 00:14:03,544
the part a bit more.

403
00:14:03,684 --> 00:14:06,969
Not all of them, but for
the most part, believe me.

404
00:14:07,469 --> 00:14:08,789
Yeah, I get that.

405
00:14:08,789 --> 00:14:08,819
I

406
00:14:09,074 --> 00:14:09,374
get that.

407
00:14:09,374 --> 00:14:09,384
Yeah.

408
00:14:09,384 --> 00:14:16,159
I do like, um, I, I do like the
older, maybe 50 fives, you know,

409
00:14:16,519 --> 00:14:23,149
just so I can get an idea and nobody
under like 30 is really my ideal.

410
00:14:23,179 --> 00:14:23,389
Yeah.

411
00:14:23,539 --> 00:14:26,274
Just 'cause I like that age gap

412
00:14:26,754 --> 00:14:26,964
now

413
00:14:26,964 --> 00:14:27,714
or that age,

414
00:14:27,964 --> 00:14:29,944
now that's going for men.

415
00:14:29,974 --> 00:14:31,684
How is it the same for women?

416
00:14:31,689 --> 00:14:31,929
For you?

417
00:14:31,989 --> 00:14:33,004
No, for women?

418
00:14:33,064 --> 00:14:37,544
I like 'em my age and younger.

419
00:14:37,549 --> 00:14:37,729
Yeah.

420
00:14:38,114 --> 00:14:38,474
Yeah.

421
00:14:38,654 --> 00:14:42,744
So 27 and up to my age 40.

422
00:14:42,799 --> 00:14:43,159
Mm-hmm.

423
00:14:43,165 --> 00:14:46,539
Um, I don't, I'm not really
into the older woman.

424
00:14:46,869 --> 00:14:46,899
Mm.

425
00:14:47,049 --> 00:14:51,159
So even if you're my age and I look
at you and I can't distinguish that

426
00:14:51,159 --> 00:14:53,049
you're my age and you look older.

427
00:14:53,289 --> 00:14:58,719
No, I like the younger
looking, fresh looking women.

428
00:14:58,724 --> 00:14:58,794
Yeah.

429
00:14:59,064 --> 00:14:59,354
Yeah.

430
00:14:59,504 --> 00:14:59,794
Yeah.

431
00:14:59,859 --> 00:15:00,099
That's

432
00:15:00,394 --> 00:15:00,474
cool.

433
00:15:00,974 --> 00:15:01,799
I mean, it's a preference.

434
00:15:01,799 --> 00:15:02,549
It is a preference.

435
00:15:02,549 --> 00:15:02,669
It's

436
00:15:02,854 --> 00:15:03,134
a preference.

437
00:15:03,414 --> 00:15:07,669
I mean, I, I'm a bit more,
um, I'm a bit less discerning.

438
00:15:07,969 --> 00:15:08,149
Yeah.

439
00:15:08,209 --> 00:15:10,699
Um, just because I'm not that picky.

440
00:15:10,699 --> 00:15:10,969
You know?

441
00:15:10,969 --> 00:15:13,489
If I can, if I can vibe with
you, then it's all good.

442
00:15:13,849 --> 00:15:16,789
But like I said, if you, if you
carry yourself like an old person

443
00:15:16,999 --> 00:15:17,359
Yeah.

444
00:15:17,364 --> 00:15:17,424
I,

445
00:15:17,479 --> 00:15:19,039
I can't, I just can't.

446
00:15:19,709 --> 00:15:20,069
You know, I mean, there's

447
00:15:20,549 --> 00:15:21,809
a lot of variables too.

448
00:15:21,899 --> 00:15:22,289
There is,

449
00:15:22,679 --> 00:15:24,809
if you're that old and
you're still getting drunk

450
00:15:25,309 --> 00:15:25,489
Yeah.

451
00:15:25,969 --> 00:15:27,619
And I'm not gonna be attracted to you.

452
00:15:27,619 --> 00:15:29,419
Like, I don't even care
about your age limit.

453
00:15:29,419 --> 00:15:34,009
Like, it's just, it's, there's a lot
of variables that go into all of that.

454
00:15:34,014 --> 00:15:34,184
Yeah.

455
00:15:34,999 --> 00:15:35,209
Yeah.

456
00:15:35,209 --> 00:15:35,759
There really is.

457
00:15:35,759 --> 00:15:39,799
Because I mean, like, drinkers, smokers
doing drugs all night, things like that.

458
00:15:39,799 --> 00:15:40,519
Look older.

459
00:15:40,549 --> 00:15:40,819
Yeah.

460
00:15:40,879 --> 00:15:42,469
It's all gonna make, it's gonna show.

461
00:15:42,589 --> 00:15:43,039
Yeah.

462
00:15:43,039 --> 00:15:46,159
It's really gonna show, uh, you
know, what's sexy is if you just

463
00:15:46,159 --> 00:15:50,309
take care of yourself, that's really
what, what makes a person sexy.

464
00:15:50,649 --> 00:15:53,399
Now you brought up
something the other day.

465
00:15:54,359 --> 00:15:58,379
I wanna say last week sometime
we were talking and you said, you

466
00:15:58,379 --> 00:16:01,819
know, one of these days I'm gonna
tell you it's time to hang it up.

467
00:16:02,179 --> 00:16:02,329
Yeah.

468
00:16:02,689 --> 00:16:03,889
I think I said that the other night.

469
00:16:03,979 --> 00:16:04,279
Yeah.

470
00:16:04,284 --> 00:16:04,534
Yeah.

471
00:16:04,879 --> 00:16:08,899
And I'm just kind of curious,
so is there an age to stop?

472
00:16:09,679 --> 00:16:12,979
I think there is, and then,
and maybe not completely stop,

473
00:16:13,069 --> 00:16:17,449
but do it way less, you know?

474
00:16:17,449 --> 00:16:17,509
Yeah.

475
00:16:17,509 --> 00:16:20,539
There's not parties, there's so
many that you go to all the time.

476
00:16:21,199 --> 00:16:26,859
Just, I mean, I wanna be able to enjoy my
life without having to always be on point.

477
00:16:27,359 --> 00:16:28,619
Well, we're podcasters.

478
00:16:28,619 --> 00:16:29,399
I don't know if that's,

479
00:16:29,879 --> 00:16:30,509
but you know what I mean?

480
00:16:30,509 --> 00:16:30,659
Like,

481
00:16:30,659 --> 00:16:34,019
so if we, let me ask you this, just
completely unrelated, but in my

482
00:16:34,019 --> 00:16:38,039
head, if we stop being swingers,
do we, we stop the podcast?

483
00:16:38,069 --> 00:16:38,729
Yeah.

484
00:16:38,819 --> 00:16:39,059
Oh shit.

485
00:16:39,059 --> 00:16:40,649
Actually, we just do it on relationships.

486
00:16:41,189 --> 00:16:41,754
Oh my gosh.

487
00:16:42,644 --> 00:16:46,124
But I mean, like, you know, like,
I wanna be able to enjoy my life

488
00:16:46,124 --> 00:16:47,564
and not be set to a schedule.

489
00:16:47,564 --> 00:16:53,624
So when I'm ready for that, and, you
know, maybe I have grandkids, my kids

490
00:16:53,624 --> 00:16:56,294
are already living in separate states.

491
00:16:56,324 --> 00:16:56,444
Mm-hmm.

492
00:16:56,984 --> 00:16:58,364
That's gonna be my time.

493
00:16:58,364 --> 00:17:02,864
I don't wanna have to be, you
have to do this and you have to do

494
00:17:02,864 --> 00:17:06,914
that and make sure you look good
because you're gonna go to the club.

495
00:17:06,914 --> 00:17:07,964
And I just,

496
00:17:08,014 --> 00:17:09,424
you know, it does take RA a lot.

497
00:17:09,549 --> 00:17:13,324
It, it, it does take a lot to make
yourself look, uh, yeah, look good.

498
00:17:13,534 --> 00:17:13,654
Um, it

499
00:17:13,654 --> 00:17:14,104
does

500
00:17:14,104 --> 00:17:18,784
just period, like for me you know,
it, it takes a bit more time.

501
00:17:18,844 --> 00:17:19,294
Yeah.

502
00:17:19,564 --> 00:17:22,234
You know, and so sometimes during
the week, I just ain't having it.

503
00:17:22,354 --> 00:17:24,874
Sometimes I'll look a little
ragged during the week, but if

504
00:17:24,874 --> 00:17:27,274
people ask us to play during the
week, I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

505
00:17:27,499 --> 00:17:27,849
Uhhuh

506
00:17:27,849 --> 00:17:28,609
don't do that, pal.

507
00:17:28,929 --> 00:17:29,464
I don't think so.

508
00:17:29,464 --> 00:17:30,154
Yeah, we don't do that.

509
00:17:30,244 --> 00:17:31,654
It's a we're waiting for the weekend.

510
00:17:31,954 --> 00:17:33,034
You do know it's a school night.

511
00:17:33,534 --> 00:17:35,034
It's 'cause our kids don't even care.

512
00:17:35,034 --> 00:17:40,554
But hey man, I mean, we just can't, it's
not our thing, what I've been thinking a

513
00:17:40,554 --> 00:17:45,814
lot about when it comes to age, because
like I said, my, my good friend, he's,

514
00:17:46,294 --> 00:17:49,984
he never carried himself as an older guy.

515
00:17:49,984 --> 00:17:50,044
No.

516
00:17:50,794 --> 00:17:55,144
Uh, as a matter of fact, I always knew
he was older, but he always carried

517
00:17:55,144 --> 00:17:57,604
himself the same age as the rest of us.

518
00:17:57,609 --> 00:17:58,799
He really did a great job.

519
00:17:58,799 --> 00:18:00,929
Plus his personality has
always been on point.

520
00:18:00,959 --> 00:18:01,319
Yeah.

521
00:18:01,379 --> 00:18:03,239
And that has a lot to do with everything.

522
00:18:03,569 --> 00:18:11,899
But his, I guess his express of concern
is that, you know, I, I wanna go out

523
00:18:11,899 --> 00:18:15,949
there and I wanna meet new people, but
who the hell's gonna look at this old guy?

524
00:18:16,669 --> 00:18:20,479
And I'm sure that there are a
lot of listeners who would speak

525
00:18:20,479 --> 00:18:21,529
up right now if they could.

526
00:18:22,039 --> 00:18:25,159
Uh, and, and probably agree
with the fact that, you know,

527
00:18:25,159 --> 00:18:27,469
it, that part doesn't matter.

528
00:18:27,679 --> 00:18:27,739
No.

529
00:18:27,739 --> 00:18:29,869
You know, this is not a young person's.

530
00:18:30,304 --> 00:18:31,534
Game for the most part, no.

531
00:18:31,864 --> 00:18:36,384
Uh, a lot of 20 year olds and
younger or older, uh, you know,

532
00:18:36,384 --> 00:18:40,494
even to the mid thirties, a lot
of people don't have the emotional

533
00:18:40,494 --> 00:18:44,034
maturity to be in this lifestyle.

534
00:18:44,084 --> 00:18:44,374
Yeah.

535
00:18:44,679 --> 00:18:48,789
They'll go out and they'll go get drunk
and they'll have a threesome or something,

536
00:18:49,209 --> 00:18:50,979
uh, but they won't call it a lifestyle.

537
00:18:50,979 --> 00:18:52,959
They'll just be like, oh
man, it was a crazy weekend.

538
00:18:52,989 --> 00:18:53,349
Yeah.

539
00:18:53,379 --> 00:18:55,509
You know, and, and then they
won't, they'll pretend like they're

540
00:18:55,509 --> 00:18:57,159
monogamous until it happens again.

541
00:18:57,639 --> 00:19:02,089
The people that celebrate this
lifestyle for what it is are usually

542
00:19:02,089 --> 00:19:05,949
in their late thirties, forties,
fifties, and even early sixties.

543
00:19:06,029 --> 00:19:10,319
And the reason for that, that I've
found is that most of these people,

544
00:19:10,529 --> 00:19:13,049
if they don't have, if they have kids

545
00:19:13,049 --> 00:19:13,199
mm-hmm.

546
00:19:13,469 --> 00:19:14,909
Their kids are usually older,

547
00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:15,419
right.

548
00:19:15,419 --> 00:19:15,959
Like us.

549
00:19:15,989 --> 00:19:16,259
Yeah.

550
00:19:16,429 --> 00:19:17,659
High school age and older.

551
00:19:17,989 --> 00:19:18,109
Yeah.

552
00:19:18,159 --> 00:19:20,109
Or they're empty nesters now.

553
00:19:20,229 --> 00:19:20,289
Yeah.

554
00:19:20,289 --> 00:19:21,699
They have the house to themselves.

555
00:19:21,939 --> 00:19:25,159
Maybe they have more financial
gain in their bank account.

556
00:19:25,249 --> 00:19:25,339
Mm-hmm.

557
00:19:25,799 --> 00:19:28,109
Because they don't have
a whole lot going on.

558
00:19:28,829 --> 00:19:33,029
Uh, you know, maybe, maybe some of
them retired early in their fifties.

559
00:19:33,084 --> 00:19:35,574
Uh, maybe they, they have
more time to go travel.

560
00:19:35,574 --> 00:19:38,124
They have time to, to
take bigger vacations.

561
00:19:38,454 --> 00:19:42,604
Uh, you know, I was told that a lot
of these lifestyle cruises, a lot of

562
00:19:42,604 --> 00:19:44,404
the people on there are older people.

563
00:19:44,404 --> 00:19:45,184
Are older people.

564
00:19:45,184 --> 00:19:45,694
Yeah.

565
00:19:45,754 --> 00:19:47,494
Because they're the ones
that can afford that

566
00:19:47,494 --> 00:19:47,704
shit.

567
00:19:47,704 --> 00:19:47,714
Yeah.

568
00:19:48,214 --> 00:19:48,694
Yeah.

569
00:19:48,694 --> 00:19:50,104
No, I heard the same thing.

570
00:19:50,104 --> 00:19:52,299
And I. That makes a lot of sense.

571
00:19:52,329 --> 00:19:52,689
Like, yeah.

572
00:19:53,349 --> 00:19:53,709
Yeah.

573
00:19:53,769 --> 00:19:54,069
So

574
00:19:54,069 --> 00:19:54,909
it, that makes a lot of

575
00:19:54,909 --> 00:19:55,329
sense.

576
00:19:55,334 --> 00:19:59,009
It's, it's kind of, it's kind
of a lifestyle that celebrates

577
00:19:59,009 --> 00:20:02,069
that prime area of 30 to 60.

578
00:20:02,519 --> 00:20:02,579
Yeah.

579
00:20:02,579 --> 00:20:06,539
And there's a lot of women in the
lifestyle that are just like the men.

580
00:20:06,539 --> 00:20:11,464
They're, you know, divorced,
trying to find some freaky fun and,

581
00:20:11,564 --> 00:20:13,619
and, you know, enjoy their life.

582
00:20:13,619 --> 00:20:18,509
They're probably married for a
long time and, just unhappily

583
00:20:18,959 --> 00:20:20,339
sexually not fulfilled.

584
00:20:20,339 --> 00:20:23,099
So there's those women as well.

585
00:20:23,199 --> 00:20:23,259
Yeah.

586
00:20:23,469 --> 00:20:23,589
You

587
00:20:23,654 --> 00:20:27,494
know, um, we always talk about
that if we ever, like one of us

588
00:20:27,494 --> 00:20:32,204
dies, are you gonna stay in the
lifestyle even if you're like old?

589
00:20:32,234 --> 00:20:32,504
Yeah.

590
00:20:32,504 --> 00:20:33,794
What was the answer that you gave me?

591
00:20:34,484 --> 00:20:35,174
No, you're not.

592
00:20:35,594 --> 00:20:36,854
Yeah, that's right.

593
00:20:37,214 --> 00:20:37,604
That's right.

594
00:20:37,604 --> 00:20:38,324
No, I will not.

595
00:20:39,284 --> 00:20:40,004
She'll be gone.

596
00:20:40,514 --> 00:20:41,054
No, I'll not.

597
00:20:41,144 --> 00:20:41,744
That's right.

598
00:20:41,894 --> 00:20:42,134
Yeah.

599
00:20:42,164 --> 00:20:42,524
We're dying

600
00:20:42,524 --> 00:20:42,704
together.

601
00:20:42,779 --> 00:20:44,174
And, and, and you.

602
00:20:44,224 --> 00:20:45,364
If I die first.

603
00:20:46,034 --> 00:20:46,304
Yeah.

604
00:20:46,304 --> 00:20:48,554
I'm gonna still fulfill
all your fantasies.

605
00:20:48,589 --> 00:20:48,869
Yeah, she's,

606
00:20:48,869 --> 00:20:51,644
she's, she's still gonna be
exploring other women and,

607
00:20:52,244 --> 00:20:54,374
and other men and all of her.

608
00:20:54,374 --> 00:20:54,674
That's your

609
00:20:54,709 --> 00:20:54,949
kink.

610
00:20:55,124 --> 00:20:55,724
That's how it goes.

611
00:20:56,224 --> 00:20:58,864
Even if I'm in the casket,
the hot wife kink is mine.

612
00:20:58,929 --> 00:20:59,389
That's right.

613
00:20:59,449 --> 00:21:00,109
That's so nice.

614
00:21:00,849 --> 00:21:01,549
That's so nice.

615
00:21:01,684 --> 00:21:01,774
You're

616
00:21:01,774 --> 00:21:01,954
welcome.

617
00:21:01,954 --> 00:21:02,134
Thank you

618
00:21:02,969 --> 00:21:03,784
so much.

619
00:21:03,844 --> 00:21:04,354
I love you.

620
00:21:04,354 --> 00:21:05,074
Oh yeah.

621
00:21:05,574 --> 00:21:09,624
This kind of goes back to the
whole, uh, reality versus fantasy

622
00:21:09,624 --> 00:21:11,124
thing that, that I've been saying,

623
00:21:11,424 --> 00:21:11,874
oh God.

624
00:21:12,414 --> 00:21:15,654
Because everybody has this mentality.

625
00:21:15,654 --> 00:21:20,304
If you're, if you're new to the lifestyle,
you think that everybody is young and

626
00:21:20,304 --> 00:21:22,734
hot, everybody is this Instagram model.

627
00:21:22,914 --> 00:21:27,444
Hell, I follow some some girls on
Instagram, some women on Instagram who

628
00:21:27,444 --> 00:21:29,824
are content creators for, they wish they'd

629
00:21:29,824 --> 00:21:29,914
be

630
00:21:29,914 --> 00:21:30,634
in the lifestyle.

631
00:21:30,724 --> 00:21:32,044
And they are in the lifestyle.

632
00:21:32,044 --> 00:21:32,104
Are

633
00:21:32,104 --> 00:21:32,344
they?

634
00:21:32,349 --> 00:21:32,799
They are.

635
00:21:32,824 --> 00:21:36,934
They're in the lifestyle or they're
ethically non-monogamous and maybe Polly.

636
00:21:36,934 --> 00:21:37,054
Mm-hmm.

637
00:21:37,304 --> 00:21:39,314
But they're also doing only fans.

638
00:21:39,374 --> 00:21:39,644
Yeah.

639
00:21:39,734 --> 00:21:43,484
Um, and yeah, they're freaking
hot and there's a lot of content

640
00:21:43,484 --> 00:21:44,924
creators that are frigging hot.

641
00:21:45,474 --> 00:21:49,914
And these are the
representation of the lifestyle.

642
00:21:50,124 --> 00:21:50,699
Well, why is that?

643
00:21:51,624 --> 00:21:53,154
Because they're attractive people

644
00:21:53,154 --> 00:21:53,454
because,

645
00:21:53,454 --> 00:21:53,784
right.

646
00:21:53,814 --> 00:21:54,444
Yes.

647
00:21:54,654 --> 00:21:58,164
Beauty sales, we wanna hear what, so
I knew that I didn't have that going

648
00:21:58,164 --> 00:21:59,544
for me, so I was like, you know what?

649
00:21:59,544 --> 00:22:02,004
I gotta have substance and you're hot.

650
00:22:02,004 --> 00:22:02,994
So this works.

651
00:22:03,264 --> 00:22:06,324
But for the most part, a lot of
the content creators that are

652
00:22:06,324 --> 00:22:11,244
out there who are successful
in this niche are good looking.

653
00:22:11,694 --> 00:22:13,194
They're very attractive people.

654
00:22:13,194 --> 00:22:16,069
Because it for the part, catch
your attention and you go,

655
00:22:16,554 --> 00:22:17,484
for the most part,

656
00:22:17,484 --> 00:22:19,404
those people are swingers.

657
00:22:19,704 --> 00:22:19,974
Yeah.

658
00:22:20,064 --> 00:22:24,834
You saying that I can, I can walk into
a club or a party and find those people.

659
00:22:24,894 --> 00:22:25,284
Yeah,

660
00:22:25,674 --> 00:22:26,424
count me in.

661
00:22:26,934 --> 00:22:33,654
But those people are extremely hot and
those people physically are extremely hot.

662
00:22:33,684 --> 00:22:35,904
They're also kind of a rarity.

663
00:22:36,609 --> 00:22:37,539
Kind of a rarity.

664
00:22:37,749 --> 00:22:38,289
You get stuck

665
00:22:38,289 --> 00:22:39,159
with people like us.

666
00:22:39,159 --> 00:22:39,564
That's right.

667
00:22:39,564 --> 00:22:41,044
With all natural baby.

668
00:22:41,174 --> 00:22:41,884
We're all natural.

669
00:22:42,429 --> 00:22:44,689
I got dad bought extraordinaire.

670
00:22:44,999 --> 00:22:47,219
And so that's the reality of it.

671
00:22:47,219 --> 00:22:51,389
The reality is that you can walk
into a sex club, you can walk into

672
00:22:51,389 --> 00:22:54,089
a swinger's club, a lifestyle club,
whatever the hell you want, call it,

673
00:22:55,079 --> 00:22:58,699
and you are going to see a range.

674
00:22:58,699 --> 00:22:59,119
Mm-hmm.

675
00:22:59,449 --> 00:23:00,634
A very large mm-hmm.

676
00:23:00,914 --> 00:23:00,994
Spectrum.

677
00:23:01,369 --> 00:23:01,729
Mm-hmm.

678
00:23:02,179 --> 00:23:04,909
Of body types and ages.

679
00:23:04,969 --> 00:23:05,089
Mm-hmm.

680
00:23:05,329 --> 00:23:09,079
Hell, we were in the club one
time and there was this lady who

681
00:23:09,499 --> 00:23:11,419
was walking around with a walker.

682
00:23:11,689 --> 00:23:11,929
Yeah,

683
00:23:12,799 --> 00:23:13,819
she was that old.

684
00:23:13,939 --> 00:23:14,209
Yeah.

685
00:23:14,629 --> 00:23:16,699
And you know what, nobody shamed her.

686
00:23:16,759 --> 00:23:17,119
Nope.

687
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,449
She had her, she had a
couple guys with her.

688
00:23:20,479 --> 00:23:20,749
Yeah.

689
00:23:20,839 --> 00:23:22,639
And she went to the back a few times.

690
00:23:22,639 --> 00:23:23,359
I was like, damn.

691
00:23:23,749 --> 00:23:23,989
Yeah.

692
00:23:24,169 --> 00:23:30,019
Uh, you know, so really if, and I know
my guy is listening because he told

693
00:23:30,019 --> 00:23:31,789
me to let him know when we did a show.

694
00:23:32,419 --> 00:23:37,549
If I could tell him right now, uh, I
understand the insecurity about that.

695
00:23:37,819 --> 00:23:37,939
Mm-hmm.

696
00:23:38,179 --> 00:23:38,719
I, I get it.

697
00:23:39,019 --> 00:23:39,199
Yeah.

698
00:23:39,229 --> 00:23:42,319
Uh, if anybody's insecure
about how they look, it's me.

699
00:23:42,859 --> 00:23:44,659
So I, I, I completely understand.

700
00:23:44,659 --> 00:23:45,619
It's completely

701
00:23:46,039 --> 00:23:48,109
but dude, you're hotty,

702
00:23:48,889 --> 00:23:49,369
you know,

703
00:23:49,369 --> 00:23:50,359
you're older.

704
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:50,459
You are.

705
00:23:50,464 --> 00:23:51,584
You're tall.

706
00:23:51,614 --> 00:23:54,704
Like this guy's got a lot going for him.

707
00:23:54,974 --> 00:23:55,304
Yeah.

708
00:23:55,304 --> 00:23:55,314
And,

709
00:23:55,314 --> 00:23:56,594
and he is got a great personality.

710
00:23:56,594 --> 00:23:57,914
He's such a cute little flirt.

711
00:23:58,214 --> 00:23:59,894
He is a, he was a good flirt.

712
00:23:59,899 --> 00:24:00,179
Cute little

713
00:24:00,179 --> 00:24:00,379
flirt.

714
00:24:00,384 --> 00:24:00,404
Yeah.

715
00:24:00,404 --> 00:24:03,104
I used to see him flirt, and I was
like, oh, this guy's got skills.

716
00:24:03,164 --> 00:24:04,694
I used to flirt with him, make him blush.

717
00:24:04,724 --> 00:24:05,324
That's true.

718
00:24:05,414 --> 00:24:05,684
Ah,

719
00:24:05,684 --> 00:24:06,464
that is true.

720
00:24:06,494 --> 00:24:06,914
Super sweet.

721
00:24:06,944 --> 00:24:10,624
Uh, and, but you know what that's
the thing is you gotta know it.

722
00:24:10,894 --> 00:24:11,224
Yes.

723
00:24:11,224 --> 00:24:13,144
So you can be insecure all you want.

724
00:24:13,144 --> 00:24:13,204
Yeah.

725
00:24:13,204 --> 00:24:14,464
But you gotta know it.

726
00:24:14,464 --> 00:24:14,524
Yeah.

727
00:24:14,524 --> 00:24:19,324
You gotta get out there and you've
gotta see how this is gonna go.

728
00:24:19,324 --> 00:24:21,554
Now he, he's reaching out to me because.

729
00:24:22,454 --> 00:24:24,639
He doesn't know anybody in, uh, the

730
00:24:24,639 --> 00:24:24,759
area.

731
00:24:24,899 --> 00:24:25,674
In this circle.

732
00:24:25,704 --> 00:24:25,884
Yeah.

733
00:24:25,884 --> 00:24:26,604
In his area.

734
00:24:26,724 --> 00:24:26,934
Yeah.

735
00:24:26,934 --> 00:24:30,114
And he doesn't just want to go
by himself to, you know, you're

736
00:24:30,114 --> 00:24:31,464
talking about a single guy.

737
00:24:31,584 --> 00:24:32,004
Yeah.

738
00:24:32,124 --> 00:24:34,194
Going off to a lifestyle event Yeah.

739
00:24:34,194 --> 00:24:34,914
By himself.

740
00:24:34,914 --> 00:24:36,114
Doesn't know anybody.

741
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:36,239
Yeah.

742
00:24:36,539 --> 00:24:37,314
Uh, yeah.

743
00:24:37,614 --> 00:24:37,854
Yeah.

744
00:24:37,854 --> 00:24:40,764
So he reached out and he was like,
look, I hear you guys are gonna be

745
00:24:40,764 --> 00:24:42,884
going to naughty Nolins in July.

746
00:24:43,679 --> 00:24:47,519
Uh, and I said, we are, we will
be at Naughty Nolins in July.

747
00:24:47,909 --> 00:24:52,669
And he said, well, I'd really
like to go to Naughty Nolins.

748
00:24:52,669 --> 00:24:52,759
Yes.

749
00:24:52,759 --> 00:24:55,669
But I want to bring a somebody with me.

750
00:24:56,209 --> 00:24:56,269
Okay.

751
00:24:56,269 --> 00:25:00,529
And so he's kind of trying to find,
I guess a, a female companion.

752
00:25:00,529 --> 00:25:00,754
I got you

753
00:25:00,754 --> 00:25:03,354
companion that he can bring
with him to No, I got you.

754
00:25:03,659 --> 00:25:08,939
And so that, this way he can kind
of see this and I would never

755
00:25:08,939 --> 00:25:13,979
recommend going to a huge event like
that, uh, when you're brand new.

756
00:25:14,399 --> 00:25:17,699
But I also know this guy
too, and I know that he'll.

757
00:25:18,179 --> 00:25:19,019
He'll do great.

758
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,724
If great if I can introduce
him to some people Yeah.

759
00:25:21,889 --> 00:25:24,244
And, and do that, you know,
he'll, he'll do an awesome job.

760
00:25:24,724 --> 00:25:28,984
And so, yeah, I hopefully, uh, you
know, we'll, we'll be in contact with

761
00:25:28,984 --> 00:25:33,374
him more, but I thought that this
brought up a really great opportunity

762
00:25:33,374 --> 00:25:34,994
because we've never talked about age

763
00:25:35,354 --> 00:25:36,044
On this show.

764
00:25:36,264 --> 00:25:39,804
And we have a lot of friends in
this lifestyle, and obviously

765
00:25:39,804 --> 00:25:41,154
the community is very fast.

766
00:25:41,154 --> 00:25:45,924
We have them from young to older.

767
00:25:46,134 --> 00:25:48,084
I rarely discuss age with other people.

768
00:25:48,089 --> 00:25:48,309
Yeah.

769
00:25:48,354 --> 00:25:48,684
Yeah.

770
00:25:48,869 --> 00:25:51,174
I, I think I just,
everyone just knows my age.

771
00:25:51,234 --> 00:25:51,564
Yeah.

772
00:25:51,804 --> 00:25:52,044
Yeah.

773
00:25:52,074 --> 00:25:52,419
I, I

774
00:25:52,419 --> 00:25:53,514
mean, it's my birthday month.

775
00:25:54,014 --> 00:26:00,114
It, it's, uh, you know, I, I rarely like
to discuss age just because I remember

776
00:26:00,114 --> 00:26:05,634
how sensitive I was to talking about
my age, and I really don't want to make

777
00:26:05,634 --> 00:26:12,174
anybody feel bad for talking about age,
but at the same time, I can do so on this.

778
00:26:12,579 --> 00:26:15,759
Wonderful platform that we have
because this is informational.

779
00:26:15,819 --> 00:26:15,969
Mm-hmm.

780
00:26:16,209 --> 00:26:16,479
Right.

781
00:26:16,689 --> 00:26:21,519
This is not only our opinions, but
also this is how people look at it.

782
00:26:21,969 --> 00:26:25,659
This is, there are gonna be some
people out there who will look

783
00:26:25,659 --> 00:26:28,229
at you and go, that guy's old.

784
00:26:28,729 --> 00:26:28,999
Yeah.

785
00:26:28,999 --> 00:26:29,089
Well,

786
00:26:29,089 --> 00:26:29,959
she's old.

787
00:26:30,019 --> 00:26:30,259
Yeah.

788
00:26:30,259 --> 00:26:30,439
I

789
00:26:30,439 --> 00:26:30,859
mean, I've

790
00:26:30,859 --> 00:26:33,199
looked at people's gonna in,
in certain places and been

791
00:26:33,199 --> 00:26:34,879
like, Ooh, you're too young.

792
00:26:35,179 --> 00:26:35,599
Yeah.

793
00:26:35,689 --> 00:26:36,049
Yeah.

794
00:26:36,049 --> 00:26:37,639
And that's, that's gonna happen too.

795
00:26:37,999 --> 00:26:41,319
Uh, you know, it, you just
gotta be prepared for that.

796
00:26:41,319 --> 00:26:44,859
People are gonna look at you
at the same time and go, yeah,

797
00:26:45,369 --> 00:26:46,449
not a good looking person.

798
00:26:46,569 --> 00:26:47,139
Not for me.

799
00:26:47,439 --> 00:26:48,069
You know what I'm saying?

800
00:26:48,279 --> 00:26:48,339
Yeah.

801
00:26:48,339 --> 00:26:50,829
Because there are shallow
people in this lifestyle.

802
00:26:50,829 --> 00:26:52,179
You can't get away from it.

803
00:26:52,209 --> 00:26:53,979
It is life, my man.

804
00:26:53,979 --> 00:26:54,699
It is life.

805
00:26:54,934 --> 00:26:55,384
It's what?

806
00:26:55,384 --> 00:27:01,059
It's, um, and so realistically you
just have to believe that you are.

807
00:27:01,559 --> 00:27:05,099
Attractive that you bring something to the
table, that you have a great personality.

808
00:27:05,129 --> 00:27:05,219
Mm-hmm.

809
00:27:05,459 --> 00:27:09,419
And you just go out there to a mixer or a
meet and greet and you introduce yourself.

810
00:27:09,509 --> 00:27:09,599
Yeah.

811
00:27:09,869 --> 00:27:12,509
And you be respectful
and you go from there.

812
00:27:12,509 --> 00:27:20,249
And I guarantee you, the people that
dig you will gravitate towards you and

813
00:27:20,249 --> 00:27:25,774
the people who are not interested in
finding out what your age is and mm-hmm.

814
00:27:25,854 --> 00:27:27,509
They're just gonna naturally stay away.

815
00:27:27,509 --> 00:27:27,749
Mm-hmm.

816
00:27:28,079 --> 00:27:31,679
So it's not like you're gonna walk
in and you're gonna be like a, a

817
00:27:31,679 --> 00:27:34,499
guy wearing mosquito repellent and
all the mosquitoes are flying away.

818
00:27:34,829 --> 00:27:35,009
No.

819
00:27:35,669 --> 00:27:39,479
You're gonna walk in and there will be
women there who will see you and go,

820
00:27:39,989 --> 00:27:41,969
oh, I wanna climb that tree.

821
00:27:41,999 --> 00:27:42,779
Look at that guy.

822
00:27:42,959 --> 00:27:43,889
Yeah.

823
00:27:44,389 --> 00:27:45,709
Yeah, yeah.

824
00:27:45,709 --> 00:27:50,389
You know, I mean, and, and this isn't just
for him, but this is for everybody out

825
00:27:50,389 --> 00:27:54,629
there who struggles with this, because
I know there are people in the community

826
00:27:54,629 --> 00:27:56,969
right now who struggle with their age.

827
00:27:56,974 --> 00:27:57,304
Oh yeah.

828
00:27:57,929 --> 00:27:58,769
And how they look.

829
00:27:58,829 --> 00:27:58,919
Yes.

830
00:27:58,919 --> 00:28:02,009
And they think that because they look
older that they're gonna struggle.

831
00:28:02,189 --> 00:28:02,429
Yeah.

832
00:28:02,549 --> 00:28:03,539
Heck no, man.

833
00:28:03,959 --> 00:28:09,239
I got a buddy of mine who, uh, he has
a, a very popular Facebook group for

834
00:28:09,239 --> 00:28:13,469
Swingers, and he's getting older and
he's been wanting to start a Facebook

835
00:28:13,469 --> 00:28:17,699
group for older swingers, for 50
and, and up, you know what I mean?

836
00:28:17,729 --> 00:28:17,819
Mm-hmm.

837
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:23,729
Um, there are lots of
subdivisions of this community.

838
00:28:23,759 --> 00:28:24,029
Yes.

839
00:28:24,269 --> 00:28:28,769
Where if you really need to
find that identity, you can.

840
00:28:28,769 --> 00:28:29,249
Yes.

841
00:28:29,459 --> 00:28:31,419
And you can, you can be a part of that.

842
00:28:31,419 --> 00:28:31,544
Mm-hmm.

843
00:28:31,889 --> 00:28:32,759
And same for the women.

844
00:28:33,179 --> 00:28:37,379
Like there were, you know, there's
older women there that all hang

845
00:28:37,379 --> 00:28:38,609
out together and stuff like that.

846
00:28:38,609 --> 00:28:40,559
So there's a community for you

847
00:28:40,829 --> 00:28:41,129
now.

848
00:28:41,129 --> 00:28:43,739
I know you embrace your age.

849
00:28:44,039 --> 00:28:44,219
Yeah.

850
00:28:44,309 --> 00:28:45,569
And you embrace getting older.

851
00:28:45,869 --> 00:28:46,229
I do.

852
00:28:46,409 --> 00:28:50,129
Have you ever had a feeling
since we've been in the lifestyle

853
00:28:50,159 --> 00:28:52,509
of shit, I'm, I'm kind of.

854
00:28:53,009 --> 00:28:53,399
No,

855
00:28:53,399 --> 00:28:54,029
I'm getting older.

856
00:28:54,034 --> 00:28:54,384
Mm-hmm.

857
00:28:54,779 --> 00:28:55,889
No, never.

858
00:28:56,219 --> 00:28:56,459
Yeah.

859
00:28:56,699 --> 00:28:56,849
Mm-hmm.

860
00:28:57,059 --> 00:28:59,219
I kind of feel like the
prime age is the forties.

861
00:28:59,249 --> 00:28:59,789
Yeah.

862
00:28:59,789 --> 00:29:04,359
And I don't I, our friends are all
different ages, but the people that

863
00:29:04,359 --> 00:29:09,759
we hang out with maybe on a regular
basis aren't really, they're younger

864
00:29:09,759 --> 00:29:10,989
than us, but just a little bit.

865
00:29:10,989 --> 00:29:12,399
And they're not really partiers.

866
00:29:12,399 --> 00:29:16,839
So I think that's where the
age and me, kind of like the

867
00:29:16,839 --> 00:29:18,909
younger ones can really stay up.

868
00:29:19,239 --> 00:29:22,599
I mean, you older ones can too, but
I'm saying like, the younger ones can

869
00:29:22,599 --> 00:29:24,219
stay up a really long time and party.

870
00:29:24,219 --> 00:29:24,519
Party.

871
00:29:24,519 --> 00:29:24,879
Party.

872
00:29:24,879 --> 00:29:24,939
Yeah.

873
00:29:25,254 --> 00:29:27,584
And the older ones that are, yeah.

874
00:29:27,584 --> 00:29:31,694
No sniffing stuff, sniffing the
skunk or sniffing the, I dunno

875
00:29:31,694 --> 00:29:33,274
what you call it, bumping it up.

876
00:29:33,774 --> 00:29:38,094
You know, I just I know can't
stay up with the young ones, so

877
00:29:38,104 --> 00:29:39,394
it's, you gotta find your spot.

878
00:29:39,394 --> 00:29:41,314
But I've never like wanted to.

879
00:29:41,494 --> 00:29:45,964
I think that might tell me, Ooh, I'm, I
feel old if I was doing stuff like that.

880
00:29:45,994 --> 00:29:49,584
And we've always been, we've
always been kind of older.

881
00:29:49,674 --> 00:29:50,124
Yeah.

882
00:29:50,229 --> 00:29:54,974
In, in the fact that we were never big
partier when we first got together.

883
00:29:55,064 --> 00:29:58,544
We were, we used to go out, often
we would shut down the bars.

884
00:29:59,094 --> 00:30:02,454
But then we became very serious
about raising our kids together.

885
00:30:02,459 --> 00:30:02,589
Mm-hmm.

886
00:30:02,669 --> 00:30:04,764
And we really didn't go out very often.

887
00:30:04,794 --> 00:30:04,914
Yeah.

888
00:30:05,184 --> 00:30:08,394
And being indoors really
was kind of our staple.

889
00:30:08,854 --> 00:30:12,454
And then as time went on, the
kids got older, uh, and we

890
00:30:12,454 --> 00:30:13,954
had opportunities to go out.

891
00:30:14,044 --> 00:30:14,104
Yeah.

892
00:30:14,104 --> 00:30:14,704
And it's like,

893
00:30:15,204 --> 00:30:15,534
yeah,

894
00:30:15,534 --> 00:30:15,834
I'm good.

895
00:30:16,434 --> 00:30:16,494
You

896
00:30:16,494 --> 00:30:18,744
know, I'm just, and I'm not, I'm
not trying to sound judgy, like

897
00:30:18,744 --> 00:30:22,404
I'm just saying, like, no, I just
don't, I like the, um, I don't

898
00:30:22,404 --> 00:30:25,854
hang out with younger, younger
people, so I don't really feel old.

899
00:30:26,454 --> 00:30:26,634
Now.

900
00:30:26,634 --> 00:30:30,574
We've had some friends from back in the
day that we, we no longer talk to now.

901
00:30:30,579 --> 00:30:30,609
Mm-hmm.

902
00:30:30,689 --> 00:30:33,374
But from our old hometown where.

903
00:30:34,079 --> 00:30:36,089
They were older than us.

904
00:30:36,209 --> 00:30:39,089
And they would party with 20 year olds.

905
00:30:39,509 --> 00:30:42,449
I mean, we still have some friends
like that and good for them.

906
00:30:42,509 --> 00:30:46,499
And I mean like all night partying
with 20 year olds doing shots all

907
00:30:46,499 --> 00:30:50,189
night at at least two nights a week.

908
00:30:50,279 --> 00:30:50,429
I

909
00:30:50,429 --> 00:30:50,489
know.

910
00:30:50,519 --> 00:30:51,479
Sometimes more.

911
00:30:51,659 --> 00:30:52,229
See crazy.

912
00:30:52,259 --> 00:30:55,439
Um, and then they go back to
work on Monday, they do it

913
00:30:55,439 --> 00:30:57,119
all over again until Friday.

914
00:30:57,119 --> 00:30:58,869
And then they hit the shots.

915
00:30:58,869 --> 00:31:00,429
Living your life like that.

916
00:31:00,489 --> 00:31:00,699
Yeah.

917
00:31:00,699 --> 00:31:05,589
Living your life like that ladies,
living your life like that is

918
00:31:05,589 --> 00:31:08,739
going to cause you to age faster.

919
00:31:09,129 --> 00:31:09,369
Yeah.

920
00:31:10,029 --> 00:31:10,509
Yes.

921
00:31:10,509 --> 00:31:11,979
Even if it's on the weekends.

922
00:31:12,309 --> 00:31:12,879
Yes.

923
00:31:12,879 --> 00:31:16,659
Only if it's once a month,
it's going to age you faster.

924
00:31:17,019 --> 00:31:18,839
So slow it down.

925
00:31:19,259 --> 00:31:21,929
And yeah, you can go and get Botox, but

926
00:31:22,029 --> 00:31:25,919
so this is a really good, we could
like do a subtopic real quick.

927
00:31:26,419 --> 00:31:26,959
Do you.

928
00:31:27,544 --> 00:31:28,474
There is a lot.

929
00:31:28,474 --> 00:31:29,734
I was talking to my friend about this.

930
00:31:29,764 --> 00:31:32,894
There is a lot of I
could be saying it wrong.

931
00:31:32,894 --> 00:31:38,654
Self absorbance, like you wanna look
your best and there's a lot of body

932
00:31:38,864 --> 00:31:40,004
what's the word I'm looking for, baby?

933
00:31:40,994 --> 00:31:43,844
A lot of people alter their
body in the lifestyle.

934
00:31:44,024 --> 00:31:44,354
Yeah.

935
00:31:44,354 --> 00:31:45,824
It's a lot of plastic surgery.

936
00:31:46,004 --> 00:31:47,264
There's a lot of plastic surgery,

937
00:31:47,624 --> 00:31:48,159
there's lot of Botox.

938
00:31:48,159 --> 00:31:48,369
Which fine

939
00:31:48,494 --> 00:31:48,854
baby.

940
00:31:48,854 --> 00:31:50,684
If I could afford it, I
would've already done it.

941
00:31:51,134 --> 00:31:58,564
But there's also a fine line
on facial stuff like Botox.

942
00:31:59,064 --> 00:32:01,094
I love Botox.

943
00:32:01,124 --> 00:32:02,324
I've never had it.

944
00:32:02,444 --> 00:32:06,584
I am trying to do something so that
I don't have to spend that money.

945
00:32:07,224 --> 00:32:10,749
I understand how it makes
people feel, but come on now.

946
00:32:11,249 --> 00:32:14,789
Well, so there are, there's a difference
between doing it and overdoing it.

947
00:32:14,939 --> 00:32:15,359
Yes.

948
00:32:15,539 --> 00:32:18,689
Um, and we've, we've
certainly seen the, the two.

949
00:32:19,019 --> 00:32:19,319
Yes.

950
00:32:19,379 --> 00:32:24,629
Um, we've seen people who do Botox or they
have, uh, certain surgeries and whatnot.

951
00:32:25,169 --> 00:32:25,229
Yeah.

952
00:32:25,229 --> 00:32:25,939
And, and they pull it off.

953
00:32:25,939 --> 00:32:26,419
It looks great.

954
00:32:26,419 --> 00:32:26,764
It looks great.

955
00:32:27,419 --> 00:32:27,439
And

956
00:32:27,939 --> 00:32:31,329
there's people that keep on
going and they're overdoing it.

957
00:32:31,389 --> 00:32:33,099
You gotta find your limit, guys.

958
00:32:33,104 --> 00:32:34,479
And it shows, and it shows because

959
00:32:34,539 --> 00:32:35,079
shows

960
00:32:35,579 --> 00:32:40,229
if no one's gonna be honest with you, when
you alter your face like that and you're

961
00:32:40,229 --> 00:32:42,899
older, it just makes you look older.

962
00:32:42,964 --> 00:32:43,254
Yeah.

963
00:32:43,799 --> 00:32:44,039
Yeah.

964
00:32:44,039 --> 00:32:46,979
And we're not, we're not saying that
you guys don't look good, but what we're

965
00:32:46,979 --> 00:32:48,749
talking about is, is age right now.

966
00:32:49,259 --> 00:32:49,319
Yeah.

967
00:32:49,319 --> 00:32:49,409
We're talking about age.

968
00:32:49,409 --> 00:32:51,719
And if you're not wanting to look
older, and the whole point of doing

969
00:32:51,719 --> 00:32:53,549
this is so that you won't look older.

970
00:32:53,939 --> 00:32:56,729
If you overdo it, it makes you look older.

971
00:32:56,729 --> 00:32:57,389
Yeah.

972
00:32:57,689 --> 00:32:59,869
It makes you look like
you're overdoing it.

973
00:32:59,874 --> 00:33:00,164
Yeah.

974
00:33:00,499 --> 00:33:03,164
Like, I would love some Botox, but Yeah.

975
00:33:03,544 --> 00:33:04,354
Oh wait,

976
00:33:05,224 --> 00:33:06,184
it's a little costly.

977
00:33:06,214 --> 00:33:06,484
Yeah.

978
00:33:06,784 --> 00:33:09,294
And we're not sponsored by a Botox clinic.

979
00:33:09,384 --> 00:33:09,924
No, not yet.

980
00:33:10,134 --> 00:33:10,374
Yeah.

981
00:33:10,974 --> 00:33:13,764
Uh, but, you know, that's a,
that's a really, really, uh,

982
00:33:14,094 --> 00:33:16,794
good point that you make there.

983
00:33:17,094 --> 00:33:25,024
Now, as far as, this is the difficulty
that I've seen is there are older people

984
00:33:25,234 --> 00:33:27,234
Who look older.

985
00:33:27,474 --> 00:33:32,154
They look out of my, my age range,
uh, as far as I'm concerned.

986
00:33:32,184 --> 00:33:32,424
Yes.

987
00:33:32,424 --> 00:33:32,994
They're older.

988
00:33:33,494 --> 00:33:38,854
But they've had surgery to
have a body of a 25-year-old.

989
00:33:38,884 --> 00:33:38,974
Mm-hmm.

990
00:33:39,244 --> 00:33:41,494
And so you're very, very far away.

991
00:33:41,704 --> 00:33:44,464
And you see this body and it's like, damn.

992
00:33:45,124 --> 00:33:47,644
And then you get closer
and it's like, damn,

993
00:33:48,144 --> 00:33:49,844
Monet a Monet,

994
00:33:49,844 --> 00:33:50,274
you know, I'm.

995
00:33:50,499 --> 00:33:53,529
It's not, not that they don't
look good, but they're out of

996
00:33:53,529 --> 00:33:56,259
my personal preference range.

997
00:33:56,319 --> 00:33:56,529
Yes.

998
00:33:56,889 --> 00:34:00,849
Uh, but they've had this surgery
to get this slamming body, and

999
00:34:00,849 --> 00:34:02,319
I think that's cool as hell.

1000
00:34:02,319 --> 00:34:03,099
I'm gonna be honest with you.

1001
00:34:03,099 --> 00:34:05,109
Like, it's, it throws me off.

1002
00:34:05,409 --> 00:34:07,959
But I think it's cool as hell because
these guys, they're like, I don't

1003
00:34:07,959 --> 00:34:10,569
give a damn what age I'm gonna be at.

1004
00:34:10,659 --> 00:34:11,409
I'm gonna have the body

1005
00:34:11,409 --> 00:34:11,504
of work.

1006
00:34:11,509 --> 00:34:14,469
I'm gonna have this slamming body, and
I'm gonna have people coming after me.

1007
00:34:14,469 --> 00:34:14,559
Mm-hmm.

1008
00:34:14,919 --> 00:34:15,969
And we're gonna have some fun.

1009
00:34:16,509 --> 00:34:16,659
Mm-hmm.

1010
00:34:16,664 --> 00:34:17,649
And I'm like, you know what?

1011
00:34:17,889 --> 00:34:18,699
Hell yeah man.

1012
00:34:19,329 --> 00:34:19,989
You do you,

1013
00:34:20,139 --> 00:34:20,619
why not?

1014
00:34:20,739 --> 00:34:21,699
Why not now?

1015
00:34:21,699 --> 00:34:22,539
It wouldn't be for me.

1016
00:34:22,544 --> 00:34:26,784
I, I, you know, I think even though
we, we were just joking about

1017
00:34:26,784 --> 00:34:30,564
it I think at some point, I'm
not gonna wanna do this anymore.

1018
00:34:30,564 --> 00:34:30,624
Yeah.

1019
00:34:30,654 --> 00:34:32,184
I would stay in the community.

1020
00:34:32,264 --> 00:34:35,954
I would stay involved in the community
as far as, you know, we'd still have

1021
00:34:35,954 --> 00:34:37,514
friends that are in the lifestyle.

1022
00:34:37,784 --> 00:34:41,144
We would go to a meet greet every now and
then just say hello and things like that.

1023
00:34:41,144 --> 00:34:42,764
But I think.

1024
00:34:43,264 --> 00:34:45,454
The actual swinging itself.

1025
00:34:45,454 --> 00:34:45,514
Yeah.

1026
00:34:45,764 --> 00:34:46,814
It's exhausting.

1027
00:34:46,814 --> 00:34:47,054
It is.

1028
00:34:47,114 --> 00:34:50,564
And I'm 43 guys, and I am exhausted.

1029
00:34:50,564 --> 00:34:51,254
It is tiring.

1030
00:34:51,254 --> 00:34:54,134
You know, it's like almost every
weekend we're either going to a

1031
00:34:54,134 --> 00:34:58,964
club, we're going to a house party,
we're going to some sort of event.

1032
00:34:59,414 --> 00:35:03,074
And if we're not doing any of that,
then we're hanging out with a couple, or

1033
00:35:03,074 --> 00:35:06,714
we're doing, uh, you know, we're doing
something else related to the lifestyle.

1034
00:35:07,284 --> 00:35:09,074
And man, it's exhausting.

1035
00:35:09,329 --> 00:35:09,619
It's,

1036
00:35:09,854 --> 00:35:10,514
it's tiring.

1037
00:35:10,694 --> 00:35:10,904
Yeah.

1038
00:35:10,994 --> 00:35:14,564
And I can't imagine being 10
years older than I am now.

1039
00:35:14,624 --> 00:35:14,654
Mm.

1040
00:35:15,104 --> 00:35:15,434
I have

1041
00:35:15,434 --> 00:35:16,574
still keeping up with that.

1042
00:35:16,574 --> 00:35:20,264
I mean, I got some traveling to
do so I can go visit everybody at

1043
00:35:20,264 --> 00:35:20,654
different clubs.

1044
00:35:20,654 --> 00:35:24,104
And then you have to consider
too that I am a sexual monster.

1045
00:35:25,004 --> 00:35:28,754
I'm a beast uhhuh, and I
like sex as much as possible.

1046
00:35:28,814 --> 00:35:29,174
Yeah.

1047
00:35:29,654 --> 00:35:31,904
But that also wears me out t deep

1048
00:35:32,564 --> 00:35:33,824
and twiddle dumb.

1049
00:35:34,324 --> 00:35:34,684
Yeah.

1050
00:35:34,684 --> 00:35:35,284
You'll be all right.

1051
00:35:35,704 --> 00:35:38,224
You know, that's, that's the
thing about it though, is, is.

1052
00:35:39,049 --> 00:35:39,919
It's exhausting.

1053
00:35:40,039 --> 00:35:40,309
Yeah.

1054
00:35:40,579 --> 00:35:43,699
And the more we go along, like every
time we go to the club, I'm exhausted.

1055
00:35:43,759 --> 00:35:44,569
Like that weekend, I

1056
00:35:44,569 --> 00:35:44,659
mean,

1057
00:35:45,524 --> 00:35:47,449
and I there's more that
I could complain about.

1058
00:35:47,449 --> 00:35:50,059
It's like, there are greater tragedies
in this world, but what I'm saying

1059
00:35:50,059 --> 00:35:53,449
is, is I am 43 and I'm exhausted.

1060
00:35:54,289 --> 00:35:57,259
If I tack on another five years,
how exhausted am I gonna be?

1061
00:35:57,619 --> 00:35:57,949
Yeah.

1062
00:35:57,949 --> 00:35:58,279
You know?

1063
00:35:58,639 --> 00:35:59,029
I don't know.

1064
00:35:59,029 --> 00:36:02,249
I just feel like the older
we get the more tired we get.

1065
00:36:02,309 --> 00:36:06,209
But then again, if you're
going the gym, often,

1066
00:36:06,509 --> 00:36:09,809
of course that's, I'm, if you take care of
yourself and you feel better, it's great.

1067
00:36:09,809 --> 00:36:13,229
But I'm saying like, there
is gonna be a stopping point.

1068
00:36:13,619 --> 00:36:13,859
Yeah.

1069
00:36:13,979 --> 00:36:16,859
You know, there, for us there
has to be a stopping point.

1070
00:36:16,949 --> 00:36:19,319
I, there's just too many
other things I wanna do.

1071
00:36:20,019 --> 00:36:20,649
What do you wanna do?

1072
00:36:20,919 --> 00:36:22,149
I wanna travel.

1073
00:36:22,209 --> 00:36:24,339
I am, I want to travel.

1074
00:36:24,339 --> 00:36:24,789
I wanna travel.

1075
00:36:24,789 --> 00:36:25,074
Well, you can

1076
00:36:25,074 --> 00:36:25,674
still be in the lifestyle

1077
00:36:25,674 --> 00:36:26,034
of travel.

1078
00:36:26,054 --> 00:36:29,014
No, I, I mean I can, but I don't
wanna have to be, maybe I don't

1079
00:36:29,014 --> 00:36:30,274
want it to do lifestyle stuff.

1080
00:36:30,274 --> 00:36:32,884
Maybe I want it to have be a
family stuff, you know what I mean?

1081
00:36:32,884 --> 00:36:33,784
Like, it's always.

1082
00:36:34,669 --> 00:36:35,689
The lifestyle stuff.

1083
00:36:36,289 --> 00:36:36,889
Not a bad thing.

1084
00:36:36,889 --> 00:36:39,379
I'm just saying when I'm in
my seventies, I don't wanna

1085
00:36:39,379 --> 00:36:40,879
do that, you know what I mean?

1086
00:36:40,879 --> 00:36:42,439
Like right now I'm having fun.

1087
00:36:42,709 --> 00:36:44,689
I mean, this is the most we've
ever been in the lifestyle

1088
00:36:44,689 --> 00:36:45,859
these past three, four years.

1089
00:36:46,129 --> 00:36:47,509
So we're, yeah, we're very, very involved

1090
00:36:47,514 --> 00:36:47,694
right now.

1091
00:36:47,694 --> 00:36:49,609
We raised our children and now we're here.

1092
00:36:50,209 --> 00:36:50,539
Yeah.

1093
00:36:50,539 --> 00:36:53,599
So we were not as involved
as we all active now.

1094
00:36:53,989 --> 00:36:58,009
Uh, we would maybe get out there once,
uh, once a year, once or twice a a year.

1095
00:36:58,009 --> 00:36:58,249
So this

1096
00:36:58,454 --> 00:36:59,694
is our partying mode and

1097
00:36:59,724 --> 00:37:01,969
yeah, I guess you could say
that even though we don't drink,

1098
00:37:02,149 --> 00:37:02,749
we don't party.

1099
00:37:02,869 --> 00:37:03,289
Yeah.

1100
00:37:03,349 --> 00:37:04,369
We really don't party.

1101
00:37:04,369 --> 00:37:08,059
But, uh, you know, just going from place
to place and doing all of these things.

1102
00:37:08,059 --> 00:37:11,329
Yeah, meeting everybody, it is
exhausting because we do feel like

1103
00:37:11,329 --> 00:37:13,219
we have to be on all the time.

1104
00:37:13,369 --> 00:37:14,389
It's fun.

1105
00:37:14,989 --> 00:37:18,289
And right now I feel like
I'm in my, thirties, I guess.

1106
00:37:18,529 --> 00:37:18,829
Do you?

1107
00:37:18,829 --> 00:37:18,859
Oh

1108
00:37:19,279 --> 00:37:19,429
yeah.

1109
00:37:19,429 --> 00:37:19,964
I don't feel like I'm

1110
00:37:19,964 --> 00:37:20,244
48.

1111
00:37:20,244 --> 00:37:21,829
Like this is the way your
thirties should have felt,

1112
00:37:21,889 --> 00:37:22,249
I guess.

1113
00:37:22,309 --> 00:37:22,669
Yeah,

1114
00:37:22,939 --> 00:37:23,089
yeah,

1115
00:37:23,089 --> 00:37:23,569
for sure.

1116
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,549
You know, the only time that I'm reminded
about my is when I look in the mirror.

1117
00:37:29,049 --> 00:37:30,129
Like when I get outta the shower?

1118
00:37:30,159 --> 00:37:30,489
No, no, no.

1119
00:37:30,489 --> 00:37:33,219
I mean, like, when I get outta
the shower, like, I'm guys,

1120
00:37:33,219 --> 00:37:34,449
I am not in the best shape.

1121
00:37:34,949 --> 00:37:40,119
Fun fact, I'm I was in the best shape
of my life, like with like a year ago.

1122
00:37:40,899 --> 00:37:40,929
Uhhuh.

1123
00:37:41,029 --> 00:37:41,749
Like ever.

1124
00:37:41,989 --> 00:37:42,799
What's your fun fact?

1125
00:37:43,249 --> 00:37:44,149
That was my fun fact.

1126
00:37:44,154 --> 00:37:44,404
Oh yeah.

1127
00:37:45,109 --> 00:37:45,919
Oh, you're gonna get back there.

1128
00:37:45,979 --> 00:37:46,189
Yeah.

1129
00:37:46,189 --> 00:37:46,969
I'm gonna get back there.

1130
00:37:47,029 --> 00:37:48,499
Like, I got, I gotta lose 30 pounds.

1131
00:37:48,559 --> 00:37:48,829
Yeah.

1132
00:37:49,369 --> 00:37:50,269
I'm working on it guys.

1133
00:37:50,419 --> 00:37:50,989
I really am.

1134
00:37:51,499 --> 00:37:54,609
Uh, but, and you know, that's the
other thing too, is, is like I said

1135
00:37:54,609 --> 00:37:56,079
you gotta take care of yourself.

1136
00:37:56,084 --> 00:37:56,164
Mm-hmm.

1137
00:37:56,544 --> 00:37:56,964
Mm-hmm.

1138
00:37:57,169 --> 00:38:00,769
The past, I don't know, six
months, I haven't been taking

1139
00:38:00,769 --> 00:38:01,819
care of myself very well.

1140
00:38:02,449 --> 00:38:04,129
Lots of bad foods guys.

1141
00:38:04,129 --> 00:38:05,419
Lots of bad foods.

1142
00:38:05,899 --> 00:38:06,109
Yeah.

1143
00:38:06,114 --> 00:38:06,964
That's our, that's our thing.

1144
00:38:06,964 --> 00:38:07,204
Yeah.

1145
00:38:07,219 --> 00:38:07,579
We don't

1146
00:38:07,579 --> 00:38:08,449
drink, but we eat really

1147
00:38:08,449 --> 00:38:08,539
bad.

1148
00:38:08,539 --> 00:38:09,529
We're eaters, guys.

1149
00:38:09,739 --> 00:38:13,099
Like, we love to eat our emotions.

1150
00:38:13,589 --> 00:38:17,279
And so if we're happy, we like to
go out to eat because we're happy.

1151
00:38:17,789 --> 00:38:21,179
Uh, if we're sad, we like to go out
to eat because it makes us happy.

1152
00:38:21,679 --> 00:38:25,364
So if we're celebrating, we like to go
out to eat 'cause we're celebrating.

1153
00:38:25,369 --> 00:38:25,659
That's

1154
00:38:25,659 --> 00:38:25,739
right.

1155
00:38:25,799 --> 00:38:26,099
You know?

1156
00:38:26,099 --> 00:38:31,409
So, uh, that's really, uh, the hard
one for us is, is just to stay with

1157
00:38:31,409 --> 00:38:35,849
any consistency, to continue to take
care of ourself as best possible.

1158
00:38:35,849 --> 00:38:35,939
Mm-hmm.

1159
00:38:36,689 --> 00:38:37,359
Um, it's hard.

1160
00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:38,349
It's time.

1161
00:38:38,349 --> 00:38:38,649
Yeah.

1162
00:38:38,654 --> 00:38:40,749
It's, it's a, it takes a lot out of you.

1163
00:38:40,809 --> 00:38:41,199
Yeah.

1164
00:38:41,469 --> 00:38:41,829
Yeah.

1165
00:38:42,129 --> 00:38:48,989
But I will say that I have heard
that if you have an active sex life

1166
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,719
that actually keeps you healthier,

1167
00:38:53,219 --> 00:38:54,809
that would explain a lot.

1168
00:38:55,649 --> 00:38:56,189
I've heard that.

1169
00:38:56,879 --> 00:38:58,589
I mean, I don't know if
I'm healthier, I'm happier.

1170
00:38:58,589 --> 00:38:59,309
So There you go.

1171
00:39:00,149 --> 00:39:00,299
Good.

1172
00:39:00,299 --> 00:39:01,349
Feels good.

1173
00:39:01,349 --> 00:39:02,039
Endorphins.

1174
00:39:02,044 --> 00:39:02,264
Yeah.

1175
00:39:02,414 --> 00:39:02,704
Yeah.

1176
00:39:02,709 --> 00:39:02,879
Yeah.

1177
00:39:03,209 --> 00:39:04,109
Like exercising.

1178
00:39:04,619 --> 00:39:05,579
Like exercising.

1179
00:39:05,579 --> 00:39:05,939
I love

1180
00:39:05,939 --> 00:39:06,329
the gym

1181
00:39:06,539 --> 00:39:06,959
really.

1182
00:39:06,959 --> 00:39:07,784
I mean, it's, it's, mm-hmm.

1183
00:39:07,869 --> 00:39:08,159
It's,

1184
00:39:08,164 --> 00:39:08,424
mm-hmm.

1185
00:39:08,509 --> 00:39:09,149
It's cardio.

1186
00:39:09,269 --> 00:39:10,049
To an extent.

1187
00:39:10,049 --> 00:39:10,559
I mean, you're not

1188
00:39:10,559 --> 00:39:10,769
Yeah.

1189
00:39:11,129 --> 00:39:13,379
Uh, doing rows or anything, but it's.

1190
00:39:13,784 --> 00:39:14,054
Depends,

1191
00:39:14,054 --> 00:39:17,324
depending on how long it lasts
and how often you get at it.

1192
00:39:17,534 --> 00:39:19,694
Yeah, I can do the
little two minutes guys.

1193
00:39:20,444 --> 00:39:21,404
Gonna get you anything.

1194
00:39:21,734 --> 00:39:22,154
A couple.

1195
00:39:22,159 --> 00:39:23,534
No cardio hours, but a couple of hours.

1196
00:39:23,534 --> 00:39:24,404
Oh my gosh.

1197
00:39:24,404 --> 00:39:25,004
Forget it.

1198
00:39:25,004 --> 00:39:28,394
Like that's, you just worked
up a sweat and then some.

1199
00:39:28,634 --> 00:39:30,854
They say that the, uh,

1200
00:39:31,394 --> 00:39:32,474
I know it's good for men.

1201
00:39:32,504 --> 00:39:38,034
The Greeks used to have a, well,
obviously it's the Mediterranean diet.

1202
00:39:38,154 --> 00:39:42,724
The Greek diet where it's lots of
fruits lots of fresh fruits and

1203
00:39:42,724 --> 00:39:49,144
vegetables, uhhuh, lots of, uh, nuts
and lots of like olives, like good fats.

1204
00:39:49,174 --> 00:39:49,264
Mm-hmm.

1205
00:39:49,864 --> 00:39:51,394
And lots of sex.

1206
00:39:52,354 --> 00:39:55,714
And that's what keeps them, uh, in

1207
00:39:55,714 --> 00:39:56,134
shape.

1208
00:39:56,134 --> 00:39:56,164
Okay.

1209
00:39:56,354 --> 00:39:57,554
Looks like we're changing our diet.

1210
00:39:58,349 --> 00:39:58,799
Yeah.

1211
00:39:59,129 --> 00:39:59,459
Yeah.

1212
00:39:59,969 --> 00:40:01,529
Or we could just have lots of sex.

1213
00:40:01,709 --> 00:40:02,129
There you go.

1214
00:40:02,309 --> 00:40:02,429
Yeah.

1215
00:40:02,609 --> 00:40:03,719
That's always an option.

1216
00:40:03,899 --> 00:40:04,859
Make me look younger.

1217
00:40:05,069 --> 00:40:05,459
That's right.

1218
00:40:05,959 --> 00:40:11,199
Now as far as we're, we're over here
talking about, about old, but, uh,

1219
00:40:11,699 --> 00:40:13,229
I'm kind of curious about young.

1220
00:40:13,499 --> 00:40:17,699
I was listening to a podcast, believe
it or not, today, a lifestyle podcast.

1221
00:40:18,199 --> 00:40:21,709
And the couple that does this
podcast, they're a little bit younger.

1222
00:40:22,339 --> 00:40:23,449
Uh, they're not too young.

1223
00:40:23,449 --> 00:40:26,599
I, I, I wanna say they're
in their thirties, maybe,

1224
00:40:27,319 --> 00:40:28,699
maybe like early thirties.

1225
00:40:28,699 --> 00:40:28,789
Mm-hmm.

1226
00:40:29,779 --> 00:40:32,089
Maybe late twenties, early
thirties, something like that.

1227
00:40:32,659 --> 00:40:33,529
I think early thirties.

1228
00:40:33,619 --> 00:40:35,929
Anyways I was listening to their show.

1229
00:40:35,989 --> 00:40:39,389
They were talking about
how they got started.

1230
00:40:39,519 --> 00:40:42,134
When they got started, they were 22.

1231
00:40:42,634 --> 00:40:44,674
When they first started in the lifestyle.

1232
00:40:44,704 --> 00:40:48,794
Okay, now I'm hearing this as I'm
walking the neighborhood, 'cause

1233
00:40:48,794 --> 00:40:52,424
I take care of myself, uh, and
I'm listening to this podcast, and

1234
00:40:52,424 --> 00:40:56,594
they're, they're going into their,
their very first swinger experience.

1235
00:40:56,594 --> 00:40:59,924
And it's they're both fresh 22 year olds.

1236
00:40:59,924 --> 00:41:00,254
Okay.

1237
00:41:00,734 --> 00:41:06,094
Now, you don't see a lot of 20 some
odd year olds in the lifestyle.

1238
00:41:06,124 --> 00:41:06,604
No.

1239
00:41:06,694 --> 00:41:07,594
Why do you think that is?

1240
00:41:08,094 --> 00:41:09,654
I think they're still maturing.

1241
00:41:09,889 --> 00:41:10,179
Yeah.

1242
00:41:10,464 --> 00:41:10,704
Yeah.

1243
00:41:10,704 --> 00:41:11,304
I do.

1244
00:41:11,304 --> 00:41:13,974
I think they're still maturing and
they're trying to figure out what

1245
00:41:13,974 --> 00:41:17,484
they, what they like and what they want

1246
00:41:18,024 --> 00:41:20,544
Sexually relationship wise.

1247
00:41:20,694 --> 00:41:23,784
But if you go on Reddit.

1248
00:41:24,519 --> 00:41:26,709
They, some young little motherfuckers

1249
00:41:27,219 --> 00:41:30,159
and they all like to
label themselves as bulls.

1250
00:41:30,159 --> 00:41:30,219
Ugh.

1251
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,449
These guys, I don't know if, if it's the,

1252
00:41:33,534 --> 00:41:33,944
it's the,

1253
00:41:34,019 --> 00:41:37,259
it's because of the whole
American pie, milk idea here.

1254
00:41:37,409 --> 00:41:37,469
Yeah.

1255
00:41:37,949 --> 00:41:44,189
That all of these guys who are 18, 19,
20, 21, they're all hitting up every

1256
00:41:44,189 --> 00:41:47,339
single woman or couple that is on Reddit

1257
00:41:47,669 --> 00:41:47,759
mm-hmm.

1258
00:41:48,029 --> 00:41:50,189
Saying, Hey, do you need,
uh, you need a bull.

1259
00:41:50,289 --> 00:41:51,069
I'm available.

1260
00:41:51,569 --> 00:41:51,659
What?

1261
00:41:51,659 --> 00:41:52,889
It's, it's often,

1262
00:41:52,919 --> 00:41:53,099
yeah.

1263
00:41:53,399 --> 00:41:59,169
So obviously these younger guys
on their own feel like that.

1264
00:41:59,174 --> 00:41:59,324
Mm-hmm.

1265
00:41:59,404 --> 00:41:59,684
It's

1266
00:42:00,084 --> 00:42:01,149
okay to partake.

1267
00:42:01,689 --> 00:42:05,799
But as a couple or as women, not so much.

1268
00:42:06,579 --> 00:42:07,449
I don't think so.

1269
00:42:07,569 --> 00:42:07,869
No.

1270
00:42:08,194 --> 00:42:08,254
No.

1271
00:42:09,244 --> 00:42:11,554
And do you think that's
an insecurity thing?

1272
00:42:12,054 --> 00:42:15,054
I know that, that in order to
do this right, it's, it takes a

1273
00:42:15,054 --> 00:42:16,314
lot of emotional intelligence,

1274
00:42:16,344 --> 00:42:16,434
right?

1275
00:42:16,434 --> 00:42:16,824
I do.

1276
00:42:16,824 --> 00:42:17,214
I do.

1277
00:42:17,394 --> 00:42:17,694
I do.

1278
00:42:17,694 --> 00:42:21,374
It's, I think it's insecurity and
it's, and emotional intelligence.

1279
00:42:21,884 --> 00:42:22,154
Yeah.

1280
00:42:22,154 --> 00:42:22,164
Yeah.

1281
00:42:22,724 --> 00:42:26,654
Because you're at that age and you're
like, okay, let's go have a threesome.

1282
00:42:26,654 --> 00:42:27,644
Let's go have some fun.

1283
00:42:28,304 --> 00:42:31,864
But then it, if you're mature
enough, then yeah, it works.

1284
00:42:31,864 --> 00:42:36,934
But if you're still just doing
it and for the only sex part,

1285
00:42:36,934 --> 00:42:38,254
I don't need to know your name.

1286
00:42:38,254 --> 00:42:41,484
Or like one night standish,
that's not gonna work.

1287
00:42:41,574 --> 00:42:42,234
That's too young.

1288
00:42:42,654 --> 00:42:42,924
Yeah.

1289
00:42:42,924 --> 00:42:45,864
You've already have the, you
have the young kid mentality.

1290
00:42:45,864 --> 00:42:46,014
Yeah.

1291
00:42:46,014 --> 00:42:47,454
You know, it's porn culture.

1292
00:42:47,514 --> 00:42:47,574
Yeah.

1293
00:42:47,814 --> 00:42:48,174
Trying to

1294
00:42:48,174 --> 00:42:48,894
wet your whistle.

1295
00:42:48,894 --> 00:42:49,044
Yeah.

1296
00:42:49,044 --> 00:42:49,974
Porn hub.

1297
00:42:49,974 --> 00:42:49,984
Exactly.

1298
00:42:50,369 --> 00:42:55,614
And you know, the, the different
porn channels on X, all of this

1299
00:42:55,614 --> 00:43:01,404
porn that revolves around swingers
a lot of time isn't actually real.

1300
00:43:01,904 --> 00:43:04,844
A lot of these scenarios
are already pre-written.

1301
00:43:04,874 --> 00:43:06,014
They're already set up.

1302
00:43:06,019 --> 00:43:06,339
Mm-hmm.

1303
00:43:06,554 --> 00:43:14,444
And a lot of these people are just young
porn actresses or actors, and this is the,

1304
00:43:14,594 --> 00:43:16,064
this is what they've been given to do.

1305
00:43:16,069 --> 00:43:16,079
Mm-hmm.

1306
00:43:16,154 --> 00:43:18,104
And they say, make it
look as real as possible.

1307
00:43:18,644 --> 00:43:23,874
I'm sorry, but if you decide to pick
up somebody in a bar and you know,

1308
00:43:23,874 --> 00:43:27,984
have take 'em back to your house,
chances are they're not gonna have

1309
00:43:28,044 --> 00:43:33,474
the huge cock that you see on the porn
when they did the exact same thing.

1310
00:43:33,534 --> 00:43:33,744
Yeah.

1311
00:43:33,804 --> 00:43:34,344
You know what I mean?

1312
00:43:34,344 --> 00:43:35,994
Like, it's that porn culture.

1313
00:43:36,084 --> 00:43:39,854
It, it makes people think that, oh,
we're gonna have a, a threesome.

1314
00:43:39,854 --> 00:43:42,564
We're gonna pick up this
person, you know, that they're a

1315
00:43:42,564 --> 00:43:43,974
swinger and we're gonna do this.

1316
00:43:43,974 --> 00:43:44,694
And it's like, no.

1317
00:43:44,694 --> 00:43:45,594
That's not how it works.

1318
00:43:45,624 --> 00:43:45,834
Yeah.

1319
00:43:45,924 --> 00:43:50,454
It's the same reason why people sit
outside of these, the lifestyle clubs

1320
00:43:50,634 --> 00:43:53,064
hoping to get a peek of who's leaving.

1321
00:43:53,184 --> 00:43:53,394
Yeah.

1322
00:43:53,424 --> 00:43:56,334
Because they have this
porn culture mentality.

1323
00:43:56,439 --> 00:43:57,579
That's so true.

1324
00:43:57,849 --> 00:44:01,149
And it's, it's all younger,
extremely hot people.

1325
00:44:01,149 --> 00:44:01,199
Mm-hmm.

1326
00:44:01,589 --> 00:44:03,149
And that's just not the case.

1327
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:04,499
That's not the case.

1328
00:44:04,499 --> 00:44:05,219
We're older,

1329
00:44:05,939 --> 00:44:07,109
we're all normal looking.

1330
00:44:07,739 --> 00:44:10,589
We, for the most part, we can be.

1331
00:44:10,589 --> 00:44:15,359
Now, not to say that there aren't really,
really attractive people really Yeah.

1332
00:44:15,359 --> 00:44:19,739
Uh, in this lifestyle, but what
I'm saying is really what you

1333
00:44:19,739 --> 00:44:23,609
see on tv, what you see online.

1334
00:44:23,789 --> 00:44:24,149
Yeah.

1335
00:44:24,269 --> 00:44:25,229
It's not common.

1336
00:44:25,729 --> 00:44:26,419
Not common.

1337
00:44:26,689 --> 00:44:27,049
No.

1338
00:44:27,559 --> 00:44:27,679
Yeah.

1339
00:44:27,679 --> 00:44:29,809
It's a, it's, there's a
bevy of different people.

1340
00:44:30,349 --> 00:44:30,619
Yeah.

1341
00:44:30,649 --> 00:44:32,629
Sizes, ages.

1342
00:44:33,024 --> 00:44:33,314
Yeah.

1343
00:44:33,319 --> 00:44:33,559
Yeah.

1344
00:44:33,649 --> 00:44:35,569
Like there's young, there's old

1345
00:44:35,929 --> 00:44:42,459
now as far as, say there was somebody
who was younger, but they carried

1346
00:44:42,459 --> 00:44:47,489
themselves older and you really
couldn't tell, I mean, obviously.

1347
00:44:48,119 --> 00:44:51,829
We're not out there, carting people
at the club or before we play

1348
00:44:51,829 --> 00:44:54,079
and go, let me see your license,
you know, that sort of thing.

1349
00:44:54,619 --> 00:45:00,219
So in situations like that, if you suspect
that they're younger, but you don't know,

1350
00:45:00,219 --> 00:45:02,119
do you ask do you just straight up ask?

1351
00:45:02,119 --> 00:45:02,359
I do.

1352
00:45:02,359 --> 00:45:03,654
Really, I do.

1353
00:45:04,154 --> 00:45:04,574
Really,

1354
00:45:04,579 --> 00:45:05,599
I don't mind asking.

1355
00:45:06,349 --> 00:45:06,709
No kidding.

1356
00:45:07,399 --> 00:45:07,429
Uhuh,

1357
00:45:08,089 --> 00:45:10,339
you know, I was always raised not
to ask a woman how old she is.

1358
00:45:10,369 --> 00:45:10,549
Yeah.

1359
00:45:10,549 --> 00:45:13,309
Because they, because we
were raised by baby boomers.

1360
00:45:13,479 --> 00:45:14,079
This is true

1361
00:45:14,469 --> 00:45:15,369
old asses.

1362
00:45:15,819 --> 00:45:18,969
And that was considered rude to uh,

1363
00:45:19,029 --> 00:45:19,299
yeah.

1364
00:45:19,299 --> 00:45:19,749
To ask.

1365
00:45:19,749 --> 00:45:23,529
I mean, I guess it is,
but I embrace my age.

1366
00:45:23,529 --> 00:45:24,789
So I'm gonna ask you.

1367
00:45:25,289 --> 00:45:25,709
Yeah.

1368
00:45:25,769 --> 00:45:26,729
I'm gonna ask you.

1369
00:45:26,729 --> 00:45:26,789
Yeah.

1370
00:45:27,269 --> 00:45:27,389
It's

1371
00:45:27,389 --> 00:45:27,569
gonna

1372
00:45:27,569 --> 00:45:27,839
be me.

1373
00:45:28,259 --> 00:45:28,619
Yeah.

1374
00:45:29,119 --> 00:45:31,699
So what would you say
the prime Age is then?

1375
00:45:32,199 --> 00:45:33,094
40. 40.

1376
00:45:33,099 --> 00:45:33,429
40

1377
00:45:33,429 --> 00:45:34,119
to 45.

1378
00:45:34,209 --> 00:45:35,799
40 to 45.

1379
00:45:35,889 --> 00:45:37,419
So you're out of Prime Age?

1380
00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:38,319
Oh yeah.

1381
00:45:38,994 --> 00:45:39,444
Really?

1382
00:45:39,444 --> 00:45:39,864
Yeah.

1383
00:45:40,074 --> 00:45:43,584
I'm not a pri I mean, I feel
like I am not, but if I'm

1384
00:45:43,584 --> 00:45:44,964
putting a number on it, yeah.

1385
00:45:45,144 --> 00:45:46,134
I'm outta prime age.

1386
00:45:46,134 --> 00:45:46,194
Wow.

1387
00:45:46,854 --> 00:45:48,624
I would say 35 to 55.

1388
00:45:49,124 --> 00:45:51,854
I, I, I think it's a large, large arena.

1389
00:45:52,334 --> 00:45:53,384
Uh, yeah, you're probably

1390
00:45:53,384 --> 00:45:53,714
right.

1391
00:45:54,074 --> 00:46:00,524
And people who are 35, we've not
realized they were 35 that we

1392
00:46:00,524 --> 00:46:01,424
thought they were in their forties.

1393
00:46:01,664 --> 00:46:02,804
People were 55.

1394
00:46:02,804 --> 00:46:04,364
We've not realized that they were 55.

1395
00:46:04,364 --> 00:46:05,504
We thought they were,
were in their forties.

1396
00:46:05,654 --> 00:46:05,804
Yeah.

1397
00:46:05,804 --> 00:46:08,864
You know, it just really depends
on how they carry themselves.

1398
00:46:08,924 --> 00:46:09,014
Mm-hmm.

1399
00:46:09,254 --> 00:46:13,214
If you have confidence, if you com, if
you're good at communicating, if you have

1400
00:46:13,514 --> 00:46:17,654
a stable life or at least a peer, like
you have a stable life, uh, you know, if

1401
00:46:17,654 --> 00:46:21,524
you can act in a certain comfortable way

1402
00:46:21,634 --> 00:46:26,854
Uh, that people don't even question
it, I think I used to carry myself

1403
00:46:26,914 --> 00:46:29,254
a lot older when I was younger.

1404
00:46:29,464 --> 00:46:29,914
Yeah.

1405
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:30,459
And.

1406
00:46:30,959 --> 00:46:34,649
As I started getting older,
even a, even my thirties.

1407
00:46:34,829 --> 00:46:42,659
I wanna say I carried myself older than
I was and now I am in my forties and

1408
00:46:42,659 --> 00:46:44,069
I guess I just said, you know what?

1409
00:46:44,069 --> 00:46:45,899
I'm gonna start dressing
how I wanna dress.

1410
00:46:45,959 --> 00:46:46,379
Yeah.

1411
00:46:46,469 --> 00:46:48,329
I'm gonna start acting how I want to act.

1412
00:46:48,329 --> 00:46:49,859
I'm gonna be who I wanna be.

1413
00:46:50,399 --> 00:46:51,269
I do the same thing.

1414
00:46:51,269 --> 00:46:51,479
Yeah.

1415
00:46:51,899 --> 00:46:52,199
Yeah.

1416
00:46:52,199 --> 00:46:52,499
Right.

1417
00:46:52,499 --> 00:46:53,314
I like to dress how I want to.

1418
00:46:53,459 --> 00:46:53,489
I

1419
00:46:53,639 --> 00:46:54,689
don't feel old

1420
00:46:54,989 --> 00:46:55,289
neither.

1421
00:46:55,679 --> 00:46:56,039
Yeah.

1422
00:46:56,519 --> 00:47:02,189
You know, I remember my parents
at at 43 and they were worn, man.

1423
00:47:02,879 --> 00:47:03,059
Same.

1424
00:47:03,509 --> 00:47:09,469
They were worn, they were unhappy and
they really didn't drink that much.

1425
00:47:09,899 --> 00:47:11,579
But they just were worn out.

1426
00:47:11,579 --> 00:47:12,869
They were tired all the time.

1427
00:47:12,869 --> 00:47:12,929
Yeah.

1428
00:47:12,929 --> 00:47:14,099
They rarely went out.

1429
00:47:14,339 --> 00:47:16,169
They definitely didn't
go out on date nights.

1430
00:47:16,409 --> 00:47:21,539
They didn't act like the younger
people that they once claimed to be.

1431
00:47:21,539 --> 00:47:21,629
Mm-hmm.

1432
00:47:21,994 --> 00:47:25,409
But when I would talk to
them about their youth.

1433
00:47:25,909 --> 00:47:32,169
They acted older in their youth, my
mother was, for lack of a better word,

1434
00:47:33,129 --> 00:47:36,509
slut, you know, when she was, when
she was in her twenties, she and she

1435
00:47:36,509 --> 00:47:41,409
would straight up say that she was she
would quote unquote, date around that.

1436
00:47:42,309 --> 00:47:45,099
She was very open about,
you know, she was like that.

1437
00:47:45,189 --> 00:47:47,649
That's the way, you know, a
person in their twenties should

1438
00:47:47,649 --> 00:47:48,729
be, they should be, you know?

1439
00:47:48,734 --> 00:47:48,914
Mm-hmm.

1440
00:47:49,479 --> 00:47:51,179
They're not gonna

1441
00:47:51,449 --> 00:47:51,659
tie

1442
00:47:51,659 --> 00:47:52,709
down be with one person.

1443
00:47:52,709 --> 00:47:52,769
Yeah.

1444
00:47:52,769 --> 00:47:55,079
You know, you're gonna do all
this stuff with different people.

1445
00:47:55,079 --> 00:47:55,139
Yeah.

1446
00:47:56,129 --> 00:48:00,449
But then when she got with my
father that whole thing died out.

1447
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,869
And of course they felt
like once we become parents.

1448
00:48:04,244 --> 00:48:04,634
That's it.

1449
00:48:04,904 --> 00:48:05,174
Yeah.

1450
00:48:05,234 --> 00:48:06,164
Uh, that's the end of it.

1451
00:48:06,194 --> 00:48:06,434
Right.

1452
00:48:06,824 --> 00:48:10,604
Uh, and I think that they really said,
okay, well now we're parents, even though

1453
00:48:10,604 --> 00:48:16,604
they were shitty parents, they said, now
we're parents, so we have to go work 40 to

1454
00:48:16,664 --> 00:48:24,254
55 hours a week and just be exhausted and
go to bed by eight and wake up by five.

1455
00:48:24,284 --> 00:48:24,374
Mm-hmm.

1456
00:48:24,614 --> 00:48:25,244
Stuff like that.

1457
00:48:25,244 --> 00:48:28,574
Like whatever you would
figure an old person would do.

1458
00:48:28,574 --> 00:48:28,664
Mm-hmm.

1459
00:48:28,904 --> 00:48:29,439
That's what they did.

1460
00:48:29,939 --> 00:48:32,219
And so they always carried
themselves as older people.

1461
00:48:32,224 --> 00:48:32,414
Yeah.

1462
00:48:32,554 --> 00:48:33,094
So did mine.

1463
00:48:33,474 --> 00:48:37,139
And I always carried myself as an
older person, but I did so because

1464
00:48:37,139 --> 00:48:40,169
I didn't want to get carded and I
hadn't been carded since I was 15.

1465
00:48:40,279 --> 00:48:42,709
But then when I was of
age, it just kind of stuck.

1466
00:48:42,889 --> 00:48:43,159
Yeah.

1467
00:48:43,219 --> 00:48:46,309
And I always carried myself
as an older person, and people

1468
00:48:46,309 --> 00:48:47,689
always figured that I was older.

1469
00:48:47,779 --> 00:48:48,049
Yeah.

1470
00:48:48,139 --> 00:48:51,319
Uh, just because I was more
mature than the people my age.

1471
00:48:52,219 --> 00:48:53,119
So, I don't know, man.

1472
00:48:53,389 --> 00:48:55,154
I always I, I always looked older.

1473
00:48:55,154 --> 00:48:58,994
I mean, girls, I think they looked at your
boobs and they're like, oh, you must be.

1474
00:48:59,759 --> 00:49:00,329
18.

1475
00:49:00,449 --> 00:49:01,169
You think so?

1476
00:49:01,169 --> 00:49:03,089
And it's like, nah, dude, I'm 14.

1477
00:49:03,929 --> 00:49:04,319
Yeah.

1478
00:49:04,409 --> 00:49:04,919
Really?

1479
00:49:04,979 --> 00:49:05,459
Oh yeah.

1480
00:49:05,729 --> 00:49:07,079
They would, uh, they would try and

1481
00:49:07,409 --> 00:49:07,619
age you

1482
00:49:07,619 --> 00:49:07,979
by your

1483
00:49:07,984 --> 00:49:08,594
boob men.

1484
00:49:08,599 --> 00:49:11,099
I try to age you by like when
you're younger like that.

1485
00:49:11,129 --> 00:49:11,879
Oh yeah.

1486
00:49:11,879 --> 00:49:13,769
Oh, she must be 17.

1487
00:49:14,399 --> 00:49:16,229
It's like, nah, homie, I'm not,

1488
00:49:17,189 --> 00:49:18,059
well, you know, I

1489
00:49:18,059 --> 00:49:18,929
was 16.

1490
00:49:18,929 --> 00:49:23,689
I remember hearing a lot about, oh,
well she's blossomed very early on.

1491
00:49:23,689 --> 00:49:23,749
Yeah.

1492
00:49:24,049 --> 00:49:24,919
You know, that sort of thing.

1493
00:49:25,419 --> 00:49:26,969
And it's weird to hear.

1494
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:27,299
Yeah.

1495
00:49:27,304 --> 00:49:32,579
I, I had that, I was 16, 15, 16, maybe
even younger than that, but 15, 16.

1496
00:49:32,819 --> 00:49:39,809
And I remember this guy I thought was
like 21 was just trying to like go at me.

1497
00:49:40,379 --> 00:49:46,199
And he was best friends or cousins
to my favorite cousin's boyfriend.

1498
00:49:47,129 --> 00:49:47,969
And I knew her.

1499
00:49:48,029 --> 00:49:50,669
I knew the, uh, I knew the
boyfriend was older because.

1500
00:49:51,044 --> 00:49:53,204
She was 14 and I think he was like 30.

1501
00:49:53,474 --> 00:49:53,804
Really?

1502
00:49:53,864 --> 00:49:54,224
Yeah.

1503
00:49:54,494 --> 00:49:55,244
Holy shit.

1504
00:49:55,274 --> 00:49:56,294
She's her first kid with him.

1505
00:49:56,804 --> 00:49:57,074
Oh my God.

1506
00:49:57,074 --> 00:49:57,224
Yeah.

1507
00:49:57,314 --> 00:49:57,974
She was 16.

1508
00:49:57,974 --> 00:49:58,904
She had her first kid with him.

1509
00:49:59,264 --> 00:49:59,654
Wow.

1510
00:49:59,714 --> 00:50:00,014
Yeah.

1511
00:50:00,224 --> 00:50:04,694
And so, and I knew the cousin was
around that age, and I remember

1512
00:50:04,694 --> 00:50:06,584
him telling me, oh, I'm, I'm 21.

1513
00:50:06,584 --> 00:50:09,344
And I'm like, okay, well I'm still 16.

1514
00:50:10,214 --> 00:50:11,624
And then I found out he was 32.

1515
00:50:11,624 --> 00:50:11,684
Oh.

1516
00:50:12,644 --> 00:50:15,014
And I was like, oh my God, no.

1517
00:50:15,014 --> 00:50:15,794
Wow.

1518
00:50:16,574 --> 00:50:19,034
You know, that's funny that you bring
that up because I remember being in

1519
00:50:19,034 --> 00:50:23,174
high school and a lot of the high
school girls were dating guys in their

1520
00:50:23,174 --> 00:50:25,184
twenties, 25, that sort of thing.

1521
00:50:25,394 --> 00:50:28,124
And so I remember I asked our daughter
the other day, I said, you know,

1522
00:50:28,484 --> 00:50:30,734
I explained to her that that was a
thing when we were in high school.

1523
00:50:30,734 --> 00:50:30,794
Yeah.

1524
00:50:30,794 --> 00:50:31,874
I said, is that still a thing?

1525
00:50:32,444 --> 00:50:33,614
And 'cause she just graduated.

1526
00:50:33,644 --> 00:50:33,884
Yeah.

1527
00:50:34,274 --> 00:50:36,524
And she goes, that is still a thing.

1528
00:50:36,539 --> 00:50:36,759
Wow.

1529
00:50:37,039 --> 00:50:37,279
I mean,

1530
00:50:37,589 --> 00:50:38,799
that is absolutely still

1531
00:50:38,839 --> 00:50:39,159
a freedom.

1532
00:50:39,584 --> 00:50:39,794
Yeah.

1533
00:50:39,854 --> 00:50:44,234
Did you know that Demi Lovato
was 17 when she was with

1534
00:50:44,654 --> 00:50:45,404
Wilmer?

1535
00:50:45,404 --> 00:50:45,554
Wilbur,

1536
00:50:45,644 --> 00:50:45,914
Wil

1537
00:50:46,139 --> 00:50:46,879
29.

1538
00:50:47,149 --> 00:50:47,439
Yeah.

1539
00:50:48,209 --> 00:50:48,449
No,

1540
00:50:49,079 --> 00:50:51,509
and I hear that he got her
hooked on a lot of stuff.

1541
00:50:51,509 --> 00:50:51,809
I don't know.

1542
00:50:51,809 --> 00:50:52,529
That's just hearsay.

1543
00:50:52,649 --> 00:50:53,249
Don't sue me.

1544
00:50:53,279 --> 00:50:55,919
I dunno, that's what the tabloid said.

1545
00:50:55,919 --> 00:50:57,749
I'm just repeating what the tabloid said,

1546
00:50:58,049 --> 00:51:04,599
but yeah, no, it's, um, girls do
it because we want that freedom.

1547
00:51:04,599 --> 00:51:08,229
We wanna be with the boy who's
ooh, older and ooh, they drive

1548
00:51:08,229 --> 00:51:09,639
and ooh, they have a car.

1549
00:51:09,939 --> 00:51:13,629
I had friends in high school when
she was dating like 20 something

1550
00:51:13,629 --> 00:51:15,309
year olds, and I was like, why?

1551
00:51:15,309 --> 00:51:16,329
She's like, because they have money.

1552
00:51:16,634 --> 00:51:16,914
I was like,

1553
00:51:17,414 --> 00:51:17,834
that's

1554
00:51:17,834 --> 00:51:18,034
crazy.

1555
00:51:18,039 --> 00:51:19,019
I did not do that.

1556
00:51:19,469 --> 00:51:20,549
But genius man.

1557
00:51:21,049 --> 00:51:22,999
I always found older
men when I was younger.

1558
00:51:22,999 --> 00:51:24,319
I always found older men scummy.

1559
00:51:24,739 --> 00:51:28,749
Now that I'm older, I know older men
are scummy, but I can control them.

1560
00:51:28,749 --> 00:51:29,499
So I don't care.

1561
00:51:29,999 --> 00:51:31,439
I can control the scummy men.

1562
00:51:31,439 --> 00:51:32,549
Back then I was scared.

1563
00:51:33,029 --> 00:51:34,589
Now, um, mama didn't raise.

1564
00:51:34,589 --> 00:51:35,729
No, no fool.

1565
00:51:35,729 --> 00:51:37,019
I, I can hold my own

1566
00:51:37,119 --> 00:51:37,479
yeah.

1567
00:51:37,484 --> 00:51:37,494
Yeah.

1568
00:51:37,749 --> 00:51:39,039
Well you're, you're pretty tough.

1569
00:51:39,279 --> 00:51:39,969
You're pretty tough.

1570
00:51:40,189 --> 00:51:45,629
That's funny because I, that leads me
into my next question for you, because

1571
00:51:45,629 --> 00:51:50,549
we've seen this in the lifestyle
quite a bit, is a, a large age gap.

1572
00:51:50,969 --> 00:51:51,209
Yes.

1573
00:51:51,759 --> 00:51:56,649
You know, you're talking somebody
who's maybe 27, 28 who's with

1574
00:51:56,649 --> 00:51:59,859
somebody who's in their forties or
somebody who's in their thirties Yeah.

1575
00:51:59,919 --> 00:52:01,149
With somebody in their fifties.

1576
00:52:01,509 --> 00:52:02,414
It's all legal.

1577
00:52:02,914 --> 00:52:03,254
All legal.

1578
00:52:03,254 --> 00:52:05,609
It's a very, very large age gap.

1579
00:52:05,669 --> 00:52:05,879
Yes.

1580
00:52:06,099 --> 00:52:07,959
And, and it's,

1581
00:52:08,919 --> 00:52:12,369
it's hard for me to, I'm gonna be
very honest, it is hard for me to

1582
00:52:12,369 --> 00:52:17,169
see a younger girl with an older
guy, especially in the lifestyle

1583
00:52:17,559 --> 00:52:23,259
because the men are very controlling
and they want a submissive woman.

1584
00:52:23,499 --> 00:52:26,379
And who are you gonna get to
submit to you very easily?

1585
00:52:26,879 --> 00:52:29,399
A younger person, period.

1586
00:52:29,769 --> 00:52:31,509
That's funny 'cause you
had mentioned this before.

1587
00:52:31,699 --> 00:52:33,169
I'm submissive by once.

1588
00:52:33,964 --> 00:52:34,504
Yes.

1589
00:52:34,654 --> 00:52:39,124
Well, so when, a long time ago
when we lived in another city

1590
00:52:39,194 --> 00:52:42,734
There was a couple that we used to
hang out with sometimes, and he was

1591
00:52:42,734 --> 00:52:46,039
like, about my age close to my age.

1592
00:52:46,069 --> 00:52:46,729
Early, mid thirties.

1593
00:52:46,729 --> 00:52:46,789
Yeah.

1594
00:52:47,289 --> 00:52:48,009
Late thirties.

1595
00:52:48,009 --> 00:52:48,019
Mm-hmm.

1596
00:52:48,579 --> 00:52:51,014
And she was early twenties.

1597
00:52:51,014 --> 00:52:51,189
Early twenties.

1598
00:52:51,969 --> 00:52:52,359
Yeah.

1599
00:52:52,659 --> 00:52:55,149
And they were in the lifestyle together.

1600
00:52:55,359 --> 00:53:00,009
Now when I see something like that, or
like, I came across a profile the other

1601
00:53:00,009 --> 00:53:06,334
day on SDC where, you know, the good
looking couple, but he was obviously

1602
00:53:06,334 --> 00:53:12,664
older and I, they had their ages on there
and it said he was 46 and she was 24.

1603
00:53:13,474 --> 00:53:16,144
And she looks like she's in the
pictures, she looks like she's

1604
00:53:16,144 --> 00:53:17,374
having a good time and whatever.

1605
00:53:17,374 --> 00:53:21,054
But you really have to kind
of ask yourself are they

1606
00:53:21,534 --> 00:53:23,304
like, whose idea was that?

1607
00:53:23,334 --> 00:53:23,514
Yeah.

1608
00:53:23,604 --> 00:53:25,609
You know, I mean, 24.

1609
00:53:25,614 --> 00:53:26,334
Okay.

1610
00:53:26,334 --> 00:53:26,394
It

1611
00:53:26,394 --> 00:53:27,954
could go either way, because I got me.

1612
00:53:27,954 --> 00:53:31,194
Maybe she's not into having sex with
an older guy, but she's with him

1613
00:53:31,194 --> 00:53:32,904
for status and maybe she gets to,

1614
00:53:33,144 --> 00:53:33,384
that's

1615
00:53:33,384 --> 00:53:34,884
the agreement she gets
to have her fun somewhere

1616
00:53:34,884 --> 00:53:34,974
else.

1617
00:53:34,974 --> 00:53:38,244
And I'm sorry, he's probably, he's
probably loaded, he probably has money.

1618
00:53:38,744 --> 00:53:41,474
I'm pretty sure he
smothers her with whatever.

1619
00:53:41,834 --> 00:53:43,604
Um, and I'm not saying it's, it's like

1620
00:53:43,784 --> 00:53:44,834
you can smother him with a pillow.

1621
00:53:44,984 --> 00:53:45,074
I,

1622
00:53:45,704 --> 00:53:46,034
yeah.

1623
00:53:46,589 --> 00:53:50,174
I mean, I think that what goes
through my mind is grooming.

1624
00:53:50,234 --> 00:53:51,014
You're just grooming.

1625
00:53:51,014 --> 00:53:55,244
You're want a submissive woman because
you can't find a woman of your own

1626
00:53:55,244 --> 00:53:56,984
age that's going to submit to you.

1627
00:53:57,464 --> 00:54:00,044
Because who in their right mind's
gonna be 40 something years old and

1628
00:54:00,044 --> 00:54:01,229
wanna date somebody to be submissive?

1629
00:54:01,449 --> 00:54:01,669
No.

1630
00:54:01,939 --> 00:54:02,229
Okay.

1631
00:54:02,259 --> 00:54:02,789
Well, okay.

1632
00:54:02,929 --> 00:54:03,149
No.

1633
00:54:03,339 --> 00:54:06,344
Okay, now let's flip that on its ear.

1634
00:54:06,674 --> 00:54:07,964
And reverse it because

1635
00:54:07,964 --> 00:54:07,994
I

1636
00:54:07,994 --> 00:54:08,894
still think the same thing.

1637
00:54:09,254 --> 00:54:11,474
Older woman with a younger, A younger

1638
00:54:11,474 --> 00:54:11,834
guy.

1639
00:54:11,894 --> 00:54:11,984
Yeah.

1640
00:54:11,984 --> 00:54:16,244
It, everyone thinks that it's not,
I think you are grooming that.

1641
00:54:16,799 --> 00:54:19,679
Young man the same way you do with women.

1642
00:54:20,039 --> 00:54:20,459
Why?

1643
00:54:20,459 --> 00:54:22,349
Because it's controlling.

1644
00:54:22,469 --> 00:54:26,309
So do I think men and women can
both be the controlling benefactor

1645
00:54:26,309 --> 00:54:30,149
in this thing and the younger
one can still be the submissive.

1646
00:54:30,179 --> 00:54:32,249
I'm not saying it's a man
woman thing, it's just

1647
00:54:32,749 --> 00:54:36,649
so you figure in that dynamic,
no matter if it's woman and you

1648
00:54:36,649 --> 00:54:38,274
know, older woman or older man.

1649
00:54:38,279 --> 00:54:38,359
Yes.

1650
00:54:38,749 --> 00:54:42,099
No matter what it is, the
older person, it's the control

1651
00:54:42,099 --> 00:54:43,369
is always the more control

1652
00:54:43,369 --> 00:54:43,849
the controlling.

1653
00:54:43,849 --> 00:54:49,999
Now, now I know that, what's that
chick's name that just made that movie

1654
00:54:49,999 --> 00:54:52,159
called Baby or something like that?

1655
00:54:52,659 --> 00:54:54,729
Um, Nicole Kidman.

1656
00:54:54,879 --> 00:54:55,179
Right?

1657
00:54:55,179 --> 00:55:00,099
Nicole Kidman made a movie where
the younger guy, she is submissive

1658
00:55:00,099 --> 00:55:04,979
to the younger guy and I think
she's his boss and he's young.

1659
00:55:05,084 --> 00:55:08,474
And he's like, I'm gonna go to
your house while your husband's

1660
00:55:08,474 --> 00:55:09,584
there, blah, blah, blah, blah.

1661
00:55:09,584 --> 00:55:11,864
And I. She is so submissive.

1662
00:55:12,164 --> 00:55:12,854
Good for you.

1663
00:55:12,854 --> 00:55:13,724
Nicole Kidman.

1664
00:55:14,174 --> 00:55:15,524
I did not watch that movie.

1665
00:55:15,794 --> 00:55:17,084
I thought it was ridiculous.

1666
00:55:17,584 --> 00:55:18,214
Spoiler alert.

1667
00:55:18,244 --> 00:55:23,064
No, I, no, I do think that
the older person is taking

1668
00:55:23,064 --> 00:55:24,564
advantage of the younger person.

1669
00:55:25,064 --> 00:55:27,944
And of course the younger person,
if they're smart, they're gonna

1670
00:55:27,944 --> 00:55:29,054
take advantage in different ways.

1671
00:55:29,054 --> 00:55:31,484
But still, I find it super creepy.

1672
00:55:31,664 --> 00:55:32,804
I find it creepy

1673
00:55:33,014 --> 00:55:33,194
now.

1674
00:55:33,194 --> 00:55:35,649
You know, I have to be
the, the voice of slight,

1675
00:55:35,709 --> 00:55:36,884
of non creepiness.

1676
00:55:36,889 --> 00:55:40,204
Slight, slight opposition just in the
fact that, this is our opinion, but

1677
00:55:40,204 --> 00:55:41,224
why do you get me started?

1678
00:55:41,289 --> 00:55:46,104
But frankly, uh, we do know that
there are, age gap couples out

1679
00:55:46,104 --> 00:55:47,784
there that are right for each other.

1680
00:55:48,024 --> 00:55:48,264
Yes.

1681
00:55:48,264 --> 00:55:50,994
And that are very happy
and that is not the case.

1682
00:55:51,564 --> 00:55:53,274
Uh, but yeah, I love, I love kids.

1683
00:55:53,334 --> 00:55:56,034
I mean, our daughter Oh,
like older, older guys.

1684
00:55:56,034 --> 00:55:56,754
And that's great.

1685
00:55:57,744 --> 00:56:01,284
But if we're gonna delve d
it's because of daddy issues.

1686
00:56:01,284 --> 00:56:01,944
She's daddy complex.

1687
00:56:01,944 --> 00:56:02,634
Like it's, it's what?

1688
00:56:02,634 --> 00:56:02,784
It's

1689
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:04,279
daddy complex, right?

1690
00:56:04,559 --> 00:56:04,679
I.

1691
00:56:05,179 --> 00:56:05,989
I don't know.

1692
00:56:06,049 --> 00:56:06,649
I don't know.

1693
00:56:06,889 --> 00:56:10,069
Well, let me ask you this
before we, uh, wrap up here,

1694
00:56:10,519 --> 00:56:11,149
because I'm hungry

1695
00:56:11,509 --> 00:56:14,569
because my good friend
really, really wants to know.

1696
00:56:15,109 --> 00:56:19,159
What advice would you give someone
who's worried that they might

1697
00:56:19,159 --> 00:56:20,779
be too old to start exploring?

1698
00:56:21,264 --> 00:56:21,384
I

1699
00:56:21,884 --> 00:56:26,434
would say you're not too old
because I know you, so you're not

1700
00:56:26,434 --> 00:56:26,524
Yeah.

1701
00:56:26,524 --> 00:56:27,064
But say you

1702
00:56:27,064 --> 00:56:27,994
don't know this

1703
00:56:27,994 --> 00:56:28,144
person.

1704
00:56:28,219 --> 00:56:28,619
I dunno.

1705
00:56:29,119 --> 00:56:29,339
Huh?

1706
00:56:30,189 --> 00:56:33,969
I would say educate yourself
a little bit in the lifestyle

1707
00:56:34,029 --> 00:56:36,014
and educate yourself on words.

1708
00:56:36,514 --> 00:56:36,974
On words.

1709
00:56:37,109 --> 00:56:40,259
On words and what they mean,
because that's gonna show your age.

1710
00:56:40,709 --> 00:56:44,374
Um, it's, it's like, do
you know what FMM is?

1711
00:56:44,794 --> 00:56:45,814
What band is that?

1712
00:56:45,844 --> 00:56:47,614
No, dude, it's not a band.

1713
00:56:48,114 --> 00:56:48,404
Yeah.

1714
00:56:49,119 --> 00:56:50,649
Type LOL after every

1715
00:56:50,649 --> 00:56:50,769
class.

1716
00:56:50,769 --> 00:56:51,789
But am I, am I right?

1717
00:56:51,789 --> 00:56:52,119
Yes.

1718
00:56:52,119 --> 00:56:52,509
Like,

1719
00:56:52,779 --> 00:56:52,989
yeah,

1720
00:56:53,019 --> 00:56:55,209
that's, that's like the simplest advice.

1721
00:56:55,309 --> 00:57:01,219
Educate yourself in the lifestyle
and try to surround yourself around

1722
00:57:01,219 --> 00:57:04,379
people that are your age that you like.

1723
00:57:04,709 --> 00:57:08,669
And I'm not saying to have sex with,
just to be around because you're,

1724
00:57:08,849 --> 00:57:11,819
if you're in your forties, you ain't
gonna hang out with a 20-year-old.

1725
00:57:11,874 --> 00:57:12,624
Come on now.

1726
00:57:12,774 --> 00:57:13,224
I don't know.

1727
00:57:13,224 --> 00:57:13,674
Maybe.

1728
00:57:13,734 --> 00:57:16,374
I mean, I guess, but I'm just,
maybe you're asking my advice.

1729
00:57:16,374 --> 00:57:17,274
This is what I'm telling you.

1730
00:57:17,544 --> 00:57:19,464
If you're in your 40 somethings,
don't be hanging out with

1731
00:57:19,464 --> 00:57:20,604
the 20 something year olds.

1732
00:57:20,634 --> 00:57:22,074
You got no business bear.

1733
00:57:22,224 --> 00:57:23,874
Your kids are almost that age.

1734
00:57:24,444 --> 00:57:24,504
No.

1735
00:57:25,344 --> 00:57:26,634
Stay within your limit.

1736
00:57:27,144 --> 00:57:32,544
Find the people that you like that
are in that age limit and slowly

1737
00:57:32,544 --> 00:57:34,284
start, building your little community.

1738
00:57:34,764 --> 00:57:36,054
God damn, you're so cute.

1739
00:57:36,054 --> 00:57:37,434
I fucking love you so much.

1740
00:57:37,434 --> 00:57:37,794
Get me

1741
00:57:37,794 --> 00:57:38,454
all wound

1742
00:57:38,544 --> 00:57:38,874
up.

1743
00:57:38,919 --> 00:57:39,139
I'm

1744
00:57:39,139 --> 00:57:39,499
hungry.

1745
00:57:39,879 --> 00:57:41,394
So that's, that's her opinion.

1746
00:57:41,704 --> 00:57:46,384
If I were to give, uh, advice to someone
who's worried that they might be too old

1747
00:57:46,384 --> 00:57:49,054
to start exploring, yes, I would say this.

1748
00:57:50,044 --> 00:57:52,504
Don't focus on being too old.

1749
00:57:52,594 --> 00:57:54,454
Don't focus on being too outta shape.

1750
00:57:54,724 --> 00:57:57,724
Don't focus on being too
wack of a personality.

1751
00:57:57,724 --> 00:57:59,524
Don't focus on any of that.

1752
00:58:00,304 --> 00:58:04,594
If you want to enjoy your ride and
the lifestyle, you're gonna go in.

1753
00:58:05,179 --> 00:58:09,499
You're gonna be yourself and the people
who are meant to cross your path.

1754
00:58:09,529 --> 00:58:13,789
The people who like you are gonna stick
around and they're gonna, they're gonna

1755
00:58:13,939 --> 00:58:17,929
enjoy you and they're gonna find out
really quick what kind of person you are.

1756
00:58:17,929 --> 00:58:19,279
And it's not even gonna matter.

1757
00:58:19,549 --> 00:58:20,569
Find that was better.

1758
00:58:20,779 --> 00:58:21,799
It's not gonna matter.

1759
00:58:21,979 --> 00:58:23,239
You are not too old.

1760
00:58:23,269 --> 00:58:24,559
No, you're not too large.

1761
00:58:24,619 --> 00:58:28,429
Or whatever the hell kind of insecurity
that you may have in your head.

1762
00:58:28,929 --> 00:58:31,569
This is a very accepting community.

1763
00:58:32,169 --> 00:58:32,709
It is.

1764
00:58:32,789 --> 00:58:34,439
You know, there's a pot for every lid.

1765
00:58:34,859 --> 00:58:35,189
Yeah.

1766
00:58:35,189 --> 00:58:38,519
And all you gotta do is just have
enough confidence in yourself.

1767
00:58:38,939 --> 00:58:42,629
At least fake it till you make it to
get out there and meet new people.

1768
00:58:42,689 --> 00:58:43,649
That's what I would say.

1769
00:58:44,249 --> 00:58:45,059
That's what you said.

1770
00:58:45,559 --> 00:58:46,339
Well, that's what I would say.

1771
00:58:46,839 --> 00:58:47,129
Nice.

1772
00:58:47,884 --> 00:58:52,264
Alright everyone, that was a fun
conversation and if you, if this

1773
00:58:52,264 --> 00:58:55,954
episode got you thinking, we would
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1774
00:58:56,374 --> 00:59:00,814
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1775
00:59:01,549 --> 00:59:06,169
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1776
00:59:06,169 --> 00:59:10,789
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1777
00:59:10,789 --> 00:59:12,619
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1778
00:59:12,709 --> 00:59:15,349
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1779
00:59:15,349 --> 00:59:17,929
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1780
00:59:17,929 --> 00:59:18,649
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1781
00:59:18,949 --> 00:59:22,399
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1782
00:59:22,399 --> 00:59:24,559
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1783
00:59:24,979 --> 00:59:27,169
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1784
00:59:27,469 --> 00:59:28,039
He does.

1785
00:59:28,204 --> 00:59:28,364
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1786
00:59:28,364 --> 00:59:29,239
Does a good job about that.

1787
00:59:29,299 --> 00:59:29,689
I do.

1788
00:59:30,049 --> 00:59:34,609
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1789
00:59:34,909 --> 00:59:35,959
that says events.

1790
00:59:36,079 --> 00:59:37,429
Speaking of events,

1791
00:59:37,429 --> 00:59:39,739
it's a birthday month.

1792
00:59:40,239 --> 00:59:41,549
Happy birthday.

1793
00:59:42,049 --> 00:59:45,379
Yeah, we have a few really
exciting things coming up.

1794
00:59:45,379 --> 00:59:49,939
On March 14th, we will be at Club Eden
in San Antonio, celebrating Pris's

1795
00:59:49,999 --> 00:59:54,709
birthday, as you've just heard, and
hanging out with the Beyond Monogamy crew.

1796
00:59:54,709 --> 00:59:57,739
We have a lot of special people that
are traveling to be here for that.

1797
00:59:58,219 --> 01:00:00,769
It is an open invite if you are listening.

1798
01:00:01,169 --> 01:00:05,459
If you want to join us, if you want
to travel to San Antonio, you are

1799
01:00:05,459 --> 01:00:07,319
welcome to meet us over at the club.

1800
01:00:07,529 --> 01:00:08,969
We will have the VIP.

1801
01:00:08,969 --> 01:00:11,489
All you gotta do is look for
the Beyond Monogamy logo.

1802
01:00:11,489 --> 01:00:11,579
Mm-hmm.

1803
01:00:11,819 --> 01:00:13,979
Because we'll have it up on balloons.

1804
01:00:14,189 --> 01:00:15,689
You gotta pay for your membership.

1805
01:00:15,689 --> 01:00:17,339
You have to pay for your membership.

1806
01:00:17,339 --> 01:00:18,899
This is not a free thing.

1807
01:00:19,409 --> 01:00:20,279
Gotta sign up.

1808
01:00:20,339 --> 01:00:22,589
Don't knock on the door
and go, Hey, let me in.

1809
01:00:22,589 --> 01:00:23,849
I'm partying with prison now.

1810
01:00:23,849 --> 01:00:25,319
Now you gotta get a membership homie.

1811
01:00:25,419 --> 01:00:26,289
That's how this works.

1812
01:00:26,559 --> 01:00:26,709
Mm-hmm.

1813
01:00:26,989 --> 01:00:30,379
But that is what we're doing on
March 14th, because my lovely ladies,

1814
01:00:30,769 --> 01:00:32,719
uh, actual birthday is March 15th.

1815
01:00:32,719 --> 01:00:33,409
Yes.

1816
01:00:33,409 --> 01:00:36,919
And on March 29th, we are doing
our in-person Swingers 1 0 1

1817
01:00:36,919 --> 01:00:38,089
Workshop at Forbidden Fruit.

1818
01:00:38,734 --> 01:00:40,294
Here in Austin, Texas.

1819
01:00:40,294 --> 01:00:40,474
Oh yeah.

1820
01:00:40,474 --> 01:00:40,774
So,

1821
01:00:40,779 --> 01:00:40,959
yeah.

1822
01:00:41,044 --> 01:00:41,374
Oh yeah,

1823
01:00:41,434 --> 01:00:42,484
that's on our events tab.

1824
01:00:42,484 --> 01:00:43,354
Sign up for that.

1825
01:00:43,354 --> 01:00:44,284
That's gonna be super fun.

1826
01:00:44,284 --> 01:00:45,724
You get to hang out with us too.

1827
01:00:45,784 --> 01:00:46,744
In person.

1828
01:00:46,744 --> 01:00:46,834
In

1829
01:00:46,834 --> 01:00:47,464
person.

1830
01:00:47,464 --> 01:00:47,959
I think they

1831
01:00:47,959 --> 01:00:48,439
give you like what?

1832
01:00:48,439 --> 01:00:48,839
We keep it real.

1833
01:00:49,079 --> 01:00:51,104
I think they give like, wine and like,

1834
01:00:51,104 --> 01:00:51,704
there are

1835
01:00:51,764 --> 01:00:52,154
little

1836
01:00:52,184 --> 01:00:52,724
Yeah.

1837
01:00:52,814 --> 01:00:53,234
Food.

1838
01:00:53,234 --> 01:00:53,414
Like

1839
01:00:53,414 --> 01:00:54,764
you cannot bring anything.

1840
01:00:54,854 --> 01:00:55,064
No.

1841
01:00:55,184 --> 01:00:55,964
Just yourself.

1842
01:00:56,204 --> 01:00:56,864
Just yourself.

1843
01:00:56,894 --> 01:00:57,314
That's right.

1844
01:00:57,884 --> 01:01:01,874
Um, this, this workshop is specifically
designed for people who are curious

1845
01:01:01,874 --> 01:01:06,314
about the lifestyle or just getting
started and they wanna learn the basics

1846
01:01:06,314 --> 01:01:07,574
and be comfortable in that environment.

1847
01:01:07,659 --> 01:01:07,949
Yeah.

1848
01:01:08,174 --> 01:01:08,294
Yeah.

1849
01:01:08,294 --> 01:01:09,194
We're gonna talk about it all.

1850
01:01:09,284 --> 01:01:09,614
Yeah.

1851
01:01:09,884 --> 01:01:16,124
Uh, if you do wanna attend, you can sign
up at www.forbiddenfruit.com/workshops.

1852
01:01:16,124 --> 01:01:16,634
Nice.

1853
01:01:16,754 --> 01:01:19,994
Uh, and you can also find their
website through our website.

1854
01:01:20,534 --> 01:01:21,584
Just refer back to it.

1855
01:01:21,584 --> 01:01:22,034
Mm-hmm.

1856
01:01:22,454 --> 01:01:25,814
Uh, and then the weekend of April
11th, we will be in San Antonio for

1857
01:01:25,814 --> 01:01:29,894
the Texas Desires Hotel Takeover,
which is always an incredible event.

1858
01:01:29,894 --> 01:01:33,909
We did that in December, so be
sure you check the events tab on

1859
01:01:34,004 --> 01:01:35,564
that website for all the details.

1860
01:01:35,804 --> 01:01:36,614
And with that.

1861
01:01:37,439 --> 01:01:40,109
We thank you for listening, and
we will see you guys next week.

1862
01:01:40,409 --> 01:01:40,769
Bye.