S1 E31 Polite Turn Downs in Intimate Circles

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Hello and welcome to Beyond Monogamy. I'm Adam. And I'm Priz.

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And if you don't know who we are, this is what we do. We discuss

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all things lifestyle. We do say

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ethical monogamy, because that's what the swinging lifestyle lies

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in. But, you know, there's different aspects of it,

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obviously. And the thing that we're talking about today, we were having a

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discussion earlier, well, before we hit the record button,

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in the situation that seems to come up for us,

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and I'm sure it comes up for a lot of other people, too. And if

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you're listening, you've probably had this before. Let me paint the

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scenario. You maybe,

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I don't know, you're in the lifestyle, and you just

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don't seem to have the people that. That you're interested in.

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They're just not interested in you. Right? Okay. And you're looking for

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the experiences, and you want to have a good time and this and that,

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and you meet somebody,

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maybe it's a single, maybe it's a couple,

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and they seem really nice.

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You are not sexually attracted to them whatsoever.

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And for whatever reason, I'm not saying they're not attractive.

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I'm saying you as a person are not sexually

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attracted to them whatsoever. Okay. Just can't make it happen.

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Yeah, but they're sweet, they're really nice,

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they're awesome people. And so in a situation like

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that. Good vibe, good energy. Good vibe, good energy,

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but absolutely zero when it comes to the

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attraction, the sexual attraction, the physical attraction.

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It's not there. Not even in the slightest. As in,

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it can even be forced. Okay,

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what do you know what I mean? What do you do in a situation like

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that? And, you know, obviously there's different offshoots of it, because it depends

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also if it. Is it a couple, is it a single?

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What. What are the. The issues? You know, they.

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Maybe they're nice, maybe they're really nice, but maybe they're also,

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I don't know, a stage five clinger,

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you know what I mean? Maybe they're constantly,

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you know, hitting you up non stop.

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Yeah. And just going, hey, what are you doing? Hey,

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how's it going? Yeah, can we do that again? Can we

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play if you played before, you know, whatever it is. Yeah. Like there's. There's all

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sorts of different scenarios. So obviously each scenario

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is different, but it really requires you to

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have to possibly hurt some feelings, I would

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think. Yeah. If you're honest. If you're honest, you don't have to be honest

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in that kind of manner.

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So if. I don't know, if they ask.

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I have turned down people very nicely. Have you? Yeah,

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yeah. I mean, obviously it's nicely as

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far as you're concerned. Was it nice as far as they were concerned? I think

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so, yeah. Yeah. I mean, we're still friends. Yeah. So I think so.

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It's just a matter of just saying, you know, just want to be friends,

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and that's it. Now, here's a question that

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I can interject on that is when you

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say you're no, thanks, or whatever it is that you say

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because you're not interested. Yeah. I take it,

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you say it in a tone that's sweet. Right. Because you want to soften the

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blow. Yeah. What if it's not taken seriously?

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What if you say it and it seems

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like it's being taken seriously, but then it comes up. I've said it and it

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comes again. So when they've asked, I've ignored the question. I've changed

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it. I've also said we should hang out as friends or we

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should hang out, like, just regular. Yeah. And then if

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it comes up again, which it has, I'm more forward.

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I don't want to play with you, but we could still

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be friends, you know. Now, have you ever had the scenario

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where you are adamant that you

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just don't want to play with them, but they're so sweet and

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you feel kind of bad, so you essentially offer up a pity

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or, you know, you. You say, oh, man, they're just really

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sweet and they're really having a bad streak. Maybe I can. No. Make it

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a little bit better. No, I haven't. No. No,

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really, I'm so. I feel like you've. You've told me before that

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you were gonna. You were considering having sex with somebody. I was.

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Because. Yeah. But I've never. Oh, you felt bad. I think I talked to you

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really briefly about it. I think we've both done the same thing. It's like,

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should we, like. No, no, no, no. Yeah.

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Because it always. It'll Come off weird.

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Like, it wouldn't be. It wouldn't be fun. Really? It wouldn't be fun.

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Like, I would totally just like. You wouldn't be able to have fun because you,

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you. Because it's not the act itself. It's the act

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with the person. Yeah. Right. So I know some people can

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get off to the act itself. It doesn't matter who the person is. Yeah.

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Like I'm. I'm transactional and I don't need to like,

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know you for a very long time type of thing. Sure.

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But I do need to feel something.

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Like, I mean, I, I gotta fee. I gotta at

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least have some kind of physical attraction to you.

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I'm not the person that's like, you like, you like intelligence and

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you like all that stuff. I could find something in most people.

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Yeah. So I. Not only. I'm not saying

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that, oh my God, I'm the freaking hottest person in the world, but I gotta

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have some kind of physical attraction right along with.

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You can't be stupid. Obviously. Right.

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Physical attraction for me is very different. So I

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don't care if you're skinny and I don't care if you're a big guy.

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That, that's not like. I'm not attracted to just one person. Right.

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But for me, you gotta have all your teeth. Oh, yeah. That's always

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been a big thing. It's my thing. You gotta have all your teeth and you

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have to have good oral hygiene and just hygiene in general. Like, really good.

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If you've been around me and I, like,

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know your breath stinks or something now.

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Yeah, we ain't playing. Yeah. You know, I've actually seen

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you in action where you've been interested and you've been like, you know,

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I think I'm gonna. Yeah, I'm gonna try. And so. And so tonight. And then

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all of a sudden, you talk to them for a little while and you're like,

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yeah, no, that's not happening. That's not happening. Their breast stank. Yeah. Or whatever

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it was. No. Yeah. The one you're talking about, they were drinking was

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definitely. Yeah, yeah. And you know, that's how, that's how it happens.

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I'm. And I don't want to be with some, like, I, I take care of

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myself and I want to make sure that I smell delicious. Right. And I

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look presentable. Yeah. So if you don't. You do not

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think about that when you're just. When we're not even playing.

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I can only assume what you're gonna do when

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we are playing. Like all of that's gonna go out the window. Right. So,

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you know. Yeah, yeah. No, I, I, I get it. I'm, I'm actually,

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I can agree with that. You know, hygiene is, is, is a

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very big deal. And oral hygiene, especially if, if you don't take care

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of your teeth. Yeah. What else aren't you taking care of?

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You know? Although I will say not everybody has dental insurance.

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Oh. And I'm sure you know what I mean, not everybody has the money for

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dentists. Totally understand that.

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But you're an adult. We're all in our 30s

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to 40s. The people that we hang out with, the people that we know,

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you know, Toothbrush goes a long way.

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Yeah, Yeah. A mint sure. Goes a long way. Sure,

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sure. Yeah. That could. So for me, that is an automatic

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turn off. Yeah. And it's funny because we're over, we're overdone

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with ours. Like, we are constantly

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flossing and brushing, and then when we go out, we constantly have gum or

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mints on us. And I always have them on the table. Yeah. And you,

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like, throughout the night, you're feeding me these mints. Yeah. People think that

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you're giving me drugs and they're mints because if I kiss. You and I'm

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like, oh, you need a mint because your mouth was dry or

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whatever, I'm like, here you go, baby. Right. It's not, you know. Yeah.

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Yeah. And you know, some people don't respond

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well to that sometimes. No, I know that there's some people out there

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who get kind of offended if you offer them gum or a mint or something

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because they're like, oh, well. Were you saying. Well, yeah,

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I'm being nice to you. Here you go.

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Yeah. That's so sweet of you. That's very nice.

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I'll even put it on my tongue and let you take it. Yeah.

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Wow. You went there, huh? Why not?

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You are. So. I can put it on my nipple, like right there.

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It'll stay on the little right there and then

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you just grab it. Yeah. We're taking. Put that away.

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But don't, don't put it away. Leave it out. Yeah,

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no, it's. If you don't. I feel like if you

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don't want to be with somebody, there's ways to say it. Yeah.

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But, But I'm hard, though, so I. I don't like to hurt feelings.

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I think it's harder for men. And I was just telling, I was just talking

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to, I was just talking to my co worker about this. Like, it is.

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So it's Hard for me to tell

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certain women how I feel about them or whatnot. Right. I can't even imagine

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in, like, the scenario, I either get too aggressive or I get too sh.

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And I've never had to tell a woman, no, not interested,

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whatever, but I can't even imagine

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a man saying that to a woman. Like, if you're not interested.

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I don't think it's even. I have never even heard. So I, I. So I

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want to say maybe when it comes to guys, and I could be wrong on

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this, but when it comes to a guy

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who is not interested, like, maybe there's not a sexual vibe,

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he's not sexually attracted. He's going to do one of two things. Okay. He's either

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going to ghost you because he's afraid to actually tell

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you, so he'll just disappear on you.

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The other option is he'll still sleep with you.

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That sucks, because I would totally do that. I would absolutely

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do that. Because I don't want to hurt feelings. Yeah. Even if I'm not sexually

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attracted, I would try and figure out a way to.

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I mean, there's so many excuses. There is, but I don't want

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to make excuses. You could just say, wait, and I'm. Not a dishonest person.

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Yeah, but you can say something like, if it's you, you can say something like,

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oh, well, you know what? Let me run this by my wife. Oh, I can

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use you as a crutch. That's the easiest thing. Yeah, like. And I'll

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be the one that says, like, nah, sorry. I mean, I do that.

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Very jealous. Yeah. Even in the vanilla world, people are

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like, oh, can you. You want to go up and have a drink? And I'm

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like, I think Priscilla's got something going for me.

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I think I got to dig a ditch in the back and,

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you know, build a deck.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I met. I'm a

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good with my hands. So, you know,

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my thing is I am afraid to.

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And that's the key word there. That's the chicken shit part of me.

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I am afraid. I am afraid to be upfront

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and honest with such a sweet person. You can't. Because to say

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I'm not interested. There's so many. There's so many different personalities.

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I think people should know that not everybody is going to mesh well.

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I mean, we have friends, a lot of friends that we have,

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and I'm not. I'm not interested in playing

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with them sexually. Yeah, the same.

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And I'm sure they're not interested in playing with Me,

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sexually. All right. Do you know what I mean? Like, it's, It's a friendship type

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of. Thing and maybe the vibe's not there. The vibe isn't there. You know how

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somebody. If your friend knows you sober,

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your friend is gonna know you drunk. Right.

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And so if you do not mesh well when you're.

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I'm just, just painting a scenario. If you don't mesh well with somebody when you're

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sober, you ain't gonna mesh well when you're

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drunk. Do you know what I mean? Like, yeah, I suppose. Like, and, and.

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And lifestyle is a lot of non. Sober activities.

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Yeah. Do you know what I mean? So, like, inhibitions get

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lowered and whatever and whatnot. So you have to kind of be in the.

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Well, see, and that's the thing is, is I think people are hopeful

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that if they get drunk and the other person gets drunk, that maybe when

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the connection wasn't there when they were sober, maybe the connection

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will be there when, I mean, you're under the influence. Our friend said

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she was telling us a story and she was like, yeah, the.

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These people were like, oh, if I was sober, I wouldn't have

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done that. What the. Or I wouldn't

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have slept with him. What? Like,

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you know, you kind of gotta, gotta.

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You need to understand, like, when you're walking into

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a situation, kind of be alert. I'm always

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the alert one. That's true. I'm not very alert. I know.

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Especially like, you and I, we go to the club and

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we're there in the middle. Yeah. And we're making out.

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We're naked or half naked.

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Yeah. And I. It's a free for,

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not a free for all. You can ask to join where we're at.

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Yeah. We're out in the open so people can see us and they can

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ask to join if they want to join. And you're so. And you are always,

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like, severely focused on me. Yes. Which is

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fine. And I. I rarely can see the people around me, either because

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you're writing me. Yes. Or because I'm on top of you, but no matter what

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I'm doing. Yeah. I am super focused on you.

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Yeah. And so I don't know who's around. Yeah. And so I'm always ready to

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say, nope. I'll even, like, go down to

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you and I'll kiss you. And I'll be like, so and so is coming by.

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We are not having sex with them. And you're like,

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okay. You know, that's. I mean,

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that's great. You know, it's always A.

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And I think I've told you this before. It's a fear of mine that

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I will be there on the beds and

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somebody will just crawl up and start,

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you know, touching me and whatnot. And it's somebody that I don't really want

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to do that with. I mean, it's happened. I know that consent is necessary,

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and I know that you're supposed to ask, but I'll be honest. I mean,

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if. If a woman comes up to me and starts touching me

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and. And, you know, rubbing me sexually and stuff, and I'm naked, I'm vulnerable,

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I'm in the bed. I'm probably not going to

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turn them down. Yeah. I may be a little uncomfortable,

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but I'm vulnerable, I'm naked, and I'm

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in bed in front of everybody. Yeah. And I'm there for sexual

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activity. I. I wouldn't be able to say no. I would just

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be like, okay, I guess this is happening now. That's what I'm there for,

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you know? And. Yeah, that's what you're there for. So that you. You could put

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a stop. But if you're. If you're getting, you know, if you're getting a train

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run on you over there next to me. Okay. You're not going to be paying

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attention to me. No. Because there have been times where you were

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laying right next to me and you

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had another woman set of lips on yours and

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you had no idea I was even next to you for. For a spell there,

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and somebody came by and you were like, oh, yeah, go ahead and take care

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of my husband there. Take care of my husband, because I'm a little busy.

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And then the last time we were at the club, you were getting plowed by

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a guy, and I was right there next to you, and I. I don't.

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I think you looked over at me maybe twice and I was like,

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oh, okay. Well, she's lost in fury. She's lost

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in fury. Yeah. And so you're not always

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paying attention. I mean, let's be realistic here.

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You know, if you've got a guy. You got to say the.

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And you've got another guy, you doggy. Yeah.

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You're not going to be paying attention to who the is. Baby,

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you got climbing into bed with me. You got to say the secret word if

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you don't want to, and then I'll. I'll remove. Baby, we agreed there was

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no secret word. There is a secret word. There is. Yes.

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Did we do this again? Yes. It's not pineapple

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again, is it? No, it's not. Am I going to tell you what it is?

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Well, if you're not going to tell me what it is, it's going to do

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no good. Oh, well, it's not my PIN number,

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is it? Ooh, that would be a good one.

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If I heard you yelling out my PIN number, I'd be like, what the

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fuck? Are you kidding me? Just gave up my PIN number and

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then nobody knew it was your PIN number. You just said it.

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Wow, that's funny. Yeah,

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so that's funny. But that is so.

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Anytime we do go back there, though, that is in my head. I know.

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I do, I do. I know that about you. And I've been there, laying there,

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and people have come up to me and kissed me, and I didn't

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know who they were, and probably still to this

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day don't know I know who they were. Well, you knew, but I didn't.

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And that's my point. Yeah, you didn't know who they were. That's my point.

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If you're preoccupied, you wouldn't know who they were. No.

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You see what I'm saying? Yeah. You're gonna have to learn how to use your

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voice. I know, but that's a part of what I was saying

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as a guy, you know, I don't want to hurt women. Don't ask.

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There's a lot. There's a lot of women. If a woman were to ask you,

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can I kiss you? You'd probably still say yes. Yeah, I.

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I would. I would. See. No, because I'd be like,

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that was nice. Silly. That was very nice. No,

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it's nice when they ask. Even you said. Even you said

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if. If. Even if I wasn't a attracted

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to the guy, if he had the respect of me, if he

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could kiss me, I would absolutely say yes. You have said that is on podcast.

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I may say look it up. I may say yes. Pull up the

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transcript. No, you didn't say may. I'm telling you now. I may say

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yes. Now you're closing the legs. Yes. You were like,

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no, now I'm closing them, homie. Oh, well,

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it's. You're right. It is. It is. You're right. My body, I feel like

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I'm getting very worked up. Just a conversation. Good God.

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Getting all crazy on me. Unnecessary,

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really. Is, you know what one thing that.

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It's always trying to figure out the other couple and

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trying to figure out if we have a good vibe with them.

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What is it like, that sort of thing. Are we aligned with our thoughts

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and how we feel? One thing that we've had to learn is to

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not.

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Not. We never talked politics, but to not judge

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on people's politics. That is hard for me. That is very hard for you because.

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It'S hard for me because I'm very. We don't talk politics. We don't. We're not

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going to talk it on this show. No. But it's very hard for me because

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I am very opinionated, as are some people, too. So,

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yes, it's hard if

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you start busting out with racial slurs. And of course, then I'm

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going to call you out on it. But, yeah, no, I don't. I don't talk

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about politics because I'm so passionate about them. Yeah. Yeah. And it's always

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hard to be around people who are adamant about talking

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politics because I can. I can hold my own.

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I. I'm actually really, really good about being vague.

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Yeah. Most people do not know where

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I'm at politically or if I'm even political. Like, most people

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don't know anything about me because I don't talk about it. And when it comes

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up, I either laugh about it or the subject or I just,

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I. I stay away from it completely, you know, and so

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a lot of people don't know my beliefs. A lot

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of people do find out about yours at some point. And obviously

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I support you as my wife. Doesn't matter what I believe.

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Yeah. It's just,

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it's in the vows. But what I've. I've found was I remember

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probably for the first half of our lifestyle journey,

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maybe more. I remember

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if we found out, you know, and they,

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they talked politics and we heard what

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they thought and believed, even if it was brief. Yeah.

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We signed them off. Yes. We would

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say, nope. Yes, that's not happening. Yes. Even if we found them

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attractive, if we thought they were cool, whatever, we.

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We just pushed them off. Yeah. And then at some

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point, we realized that there's a

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lot of people who believe what they're going to believe.

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And as long as we don't have to talk about. It's all

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good. We can still get. As long as we can get along.

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And we. And you don't talk to us about. Don't talk to your

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political beliefs. You don't bring it up, It'll be all good.

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Yeah. And, you know, it's one of those things where I

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don't care what you post on your Facebook or

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whatever, your Instagram. Yeah. I know how to follow exactly.

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If I'm. If I don't agree with something or whatever, I just Ignore

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it. I don't really care. Like, that's your thing and that's

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your personal Facebook. But if you come to my Facebook and you

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start talking trash or you start saying your things,

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you know, I'm gonna be like, okay, you gots to go.

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You gotta go. Because I respect your private Facebook,

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you should respect mine. Yeah. That sort of thing.

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But I feel like we have gotten

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cornered in two ways. Not even all

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political. Some have just been really weird conversations or

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really boring conversations. Yes. I mean, I can usually.

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If I can usually wrangle us out of a conversation,

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but it does get hard sometimes because my

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adhd and I'm there and they're talking and I'm like,

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wait, what were we talking about? Yeah.

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So I. I feel like we get into this. This situation often.

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Often. Usually at big gatherings of swingers,

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whether it be meet and greets or house parties or whatever.

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Yeah. We always manage to end up

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around a couple that just is kind of boring.

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Not our vibe. Not our vibe. And. And we

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get cornered for a spell. Yeah. And. And in situations

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like that, I've. I've struggled to get out of

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them. I've gotten better. Yeah. I've gotten better about,

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you know, just kind of bullshitting for

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a few minutes and then going, okay, well, I'll see you later.

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Yeah. You know. Yeah. Just because

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I would do that in any scenario, whether I'm finding them boring or I've got

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to go, you know, I mean. You would? Yeah, I would do the same.

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That's the same thing. And so realized, oh, well, that's all I gotta do.

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And we're good. You know,

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sometimes I feel like I'm the boring one and

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I push off conversation. So I've been around

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people, like at a meet and greet or things like that, where I

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just feel like I've got nothing to say. I've got nothing good to say.

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I can't think of anything to talk about. I've got nothing good to say and

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I just need to escape. You do that in every conversation, LS or not.

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This is true. And I'm just like, okay, well, we talk

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to our. Good. Talking to you later. Yeah, we don't have all the vanilla friends.

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Or even our vanilla friends. You're, like,

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tuned out. I tend to go in and out of

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conversation mentally because I have a

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lot of thoughts in my head. And so most of the time I've got a

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lot of different things I'm processing all at once, especially if there's lots of people

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around. Yeah. But also

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I just. I really struggle to be captivated by

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conversation sometimes is. There's been conversation

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that's been so good. I haven't missed a word. I didn't miss a syllable.

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There's been other conversation that's just kind of come

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and gone. Sometimes it catches me, sometimes it doesn't. Yeah.

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You know, I'm good with just sitting there in silence. That's so

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boring, man. See, I used to have major anxiety because I'd be like, oh,

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man, I got conversation. Oh, my God, I gotta keep this conversation going.

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You said that to me so many. Times, and I still do. I'm like,

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it's okay, honey. I still feel like I gotta keep the conversation going. The difference

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is now is that I've learned how to put a stop to the conversation.

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Oh, I gotcha. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So now I know how

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to, to go, okay, well, we're gonna wrap this up.

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And you've said that a few times. I've said that before. Yeah. And I don't

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mean any disrespect by it. I just don't know how else to say it outside

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of, well, we, we need to wrap this up because I. Kind of go,

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so say you're, you're at a party. Sure.

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You're in a hot tub. Okay. Y' all are naked. Yes, we're all naked.

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All right. We're talking. Yeah, we're all okay.

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And, you know, the vibe isn't there.

422
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Okay. But they're insistent on let's

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go, let's go play let's go or come on and, you know,

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this and this and that. Yes. Do you know how to remove yourself

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from that or would you stay? It's happened

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before. Has it? Yes. Did we remove ourselves?

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You mean physically? Yeah. No. Did we

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have sex with them? Yes.

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And it was, it was on my part. I,

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I, I did not, I didn't like it. I wasn't, I didn't want to

431
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have sex with her initially.

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She seemed nice. That was a situation where

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she seemed nice. We had the occasional conversation,

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but something was always a little off. She was,

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you know, either very strong minded

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or something. Something was always off, though. She, like, I don't know what

437
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she was looking for, but I think she was

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looking for somebody that was gonna contact her every single day and that sort of

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thing. And I just, I'm busy, you know, I, I don't, I don't have that

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kind of time. Yeah. And not to mention, she really didn't interest me in that

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way. Yeah, she was not a great conversationalist.

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So how am I expected to talk to somebody

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every single day? So it was good for a while. The conversation was okay.

444
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The conversation was okay up to a certain point. And then I started

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checking out. And when I started checking out,

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she was already. Not too much physically

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attractive, if I'm. If I'm honest. No, but I'm

448
00:29:38,430 --> 00:29:41,650
saying, like, before we had sex with them. Well, I'm getting there. Oh,

449
00:29:42,150 --> 00:29:45,130
okay. So, geez, I'm working my way to that. Okay.

450
00:29:45,530 --> 00:29:48,610
I mean, we're on a show here. I thought you skipped it. I was like,

451
00:29:49,110 --> 00:29:51,690
no, no. I'm working my way through. So this is before. Okay. This is all

452
00:29:52,190 --> 00:29:56,090
before we had all met up. Yeah. And you

453
00:29:56,590 --> 00:29:59,620
vibed with him. Yeah, hell, I vibed with him. Yeah.

454
00:30:00,980 --> 00:30:04,340
She was okay. She was nice. We had good

455
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,100
conversation. It was very obvious she wanted me and

456
00:30:10,420 --> 00:30:14,380
that I saw in her. There was moment. There was a couple of red flags

457
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,380
here and there that made me think maybe she'd get attached. Yeah. That I

458
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,140
didn't care for. There was some negativity

459
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:25,880
that I didn't care for.

460
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,800
But she was older, so I just figured maybe this is a thing.

461
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,160
Yeah. But like I

462
00:30:35,660 --> 00:30:39,320
said, I. I don't. I don't communicate with somebody like that

463
00:30:39,820 --> 00:30:41,880
every single day because they just don't interest me. Right.

464
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,880
The conversation gets stale after a while. So fast

465
00:30:52,090 --> 00:30:55,650
You made plans. I think that this. This was a situation

466
00:30:56,150 --> 00:30:58,250
where you had made plans with them to go hang out at their house.

467
00:30:58,490 --> 00:31:01,650
No, no. But it wasn't. Yeah,

468
00:31:02,150 --> 00:31:05,050
but it wasn't a play thing. Yeah, you had made plans with them,

469
00:31:05,129 --> 00:31:07,730
and I was just kind of checked out. And you were like, oh, yeah,

470
00:31:08,230 --> 00:31:10,450
we're gonna go over to their house. That sort of thing. And then she conned

471
00:31:10,950 --> 00:31:14,090
me, and she was like, oh, so y' all are gonna come over and we're

472
00:31:14,590 --> 00:31:18,150
gonna play? And I was like, oh, okay. And so

473
00:31:18,650 --> 00:31:20,510
then you and I started talking about it, and then we started talking about it

474
00:31:21,010 --> 00:31:24,230
in the group, and. And basically figured out that that's

475
00:31:24,730 --> 00:31:27,590
what was gonna happen. And I thought,

476
00:31:29,190 --> 00:31:34,110
you know, I knew you were looking forward to kind of seeing

477
00:31:34,610 --> 00:31:37,870
what he had going on. There was an interest there. You liked him

478
00:31:38,370 --> 00:31:41,630
personally? Actually, we had the group chat. Yeah. And you

479
00:31:42,130 --> 00:31:44,430
and I were talking, and I ended up just getting on the group chat and

480
00:31:44,930 --> 00:31:48,350
being like, so is this a play party? Right. And then she was like,

481
00:31:48,850 --> 00:31:51,350
well, you're gonna be here. You're driving all the way this way. Blah, blah,

482
00:31:51,850 --> 00:31:55,030
blah, blah. Yeah, yeah, okay. Right. And so I was like, all right, babe.

483
00:31:55,530 --> 00:31:58,550
It's a play party. Yeah. It's just. Yeah. So. And that was fine. That was

484
00:31:59,050 --> 00:32:02,550
fine. And the whole time leading up to it, I was like,

485
00:32:03,050 --> 00:32:06,150
oh, it's sex. It's sex with somebody I consider a friend.

486
00:32:06,310 --> 00:32:07,670
That's cool. Yeah.

487
00:32:09,830 --> 00:32:13,500
This good. Unfortunately. So not

488
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,380
only did I not really find her attractive,

489
00:32:17,260 --> 00:32:20,140
but then to me, made her less.

490
00:32:20,940 --> 00:32:24,220
Less attractive. Right. And then I still slept with her after

491
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,820
all of that, which is that situation that I told you where it's.

492
00:32:28,060 --> 00:32:32,460
Well, you know. And so I still slept with her because

493
00:32:32,780 --> 00:32:38,380
I thought she was nice. Yeah. And then after

494
00:32:38,460 --> 00:32:42,340
all of that, I guess she got upset

495
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,980
that I wouldn't. Yeah. Contact her every single day.

496
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,780
And then she just kind of wrote me off. She just blocked that piece.

497
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,980
Yeah. She got rid of me. Yeah. And. Which is fine. Totally cool.

498
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,100
I mean, it's. It's fine because, hey, it was mutual.

499
00:32:57,900 --> 00:33:01,380
But that was a situation where I was like,

500
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,140
dude, I like, say no. Yeah. And I. I wish

501
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,430
I had. Mm. But that.

502
00:33:09,910 --> 00:33:12,550
Because of that situation, I'm just kind of like, ugh,

503
00:33:13,030 --> 00:33:16,670
if I get in that situation again, am I gonna be able

504
00:33:17,170 --> 00:33:20,070
to say no? Have I found my voice to say no?

505
00:33:20,230 --> 00:33:23,630
I've gotten better about becoming more vocal about what

506
00:33:24,130 --> 00:33:27,470
I like and what I don't like and this and that. But I think that's

507
00:33:27,970 --> 00:33:31,670
more with you. I don't know if that's with others.

508
00:33:32,250 --> 00:33:35,530
Oh, you should try it. Yeah. Yeah. It's okay.

509
00:33:36,030 --> 00:33:39,370
Just randomly tell somebody. No, but, like, if they're. I don't like that. If you're

510
00:33:39,870 --> 00:33:43,050
not interested in somebody, you just gotta tell them, oh, yeah, no, I'm not interested

511
00:33:43,550 --> 00:33:45,450
sexually. Yeah. I mean,

512
00:33:47,050 --> 00:33:49,890
well. And you know what? So here's.

513
00:33:50,390 --> 00:33:52,650
Here's the thing with. I guess if I'm propositioned,

514
00:33:54,010 --> 00:33:57,290
and then I can say that. Yes, that would make sense. Yeah.

515
00:33:57,450 --> 00:34:00,010
But to just randomly tell somebody.

516
00:34:01,850 --> 00:34:05,530
Because I've had that happen to me before. Oh. Where I've made a

517
00:34:06,030 --> 00:34:08,650
joke or I've said something and it's like, oh, well, by the way.

518
00:34:08,970 --> 00:34:12,490
But that person was a freaking idiot. Oh. I mean, I'm just saying. It was

519
00:34:12,990 --> 00:34:15,850
said. It's been said. It's been said. Yeah. It's like, well, by the way,

520
00:34:17,210 --> 00:34:20,690
it'll never happen. Yeah. Not sexually. Yeah. At all. And I'm like,

521
00:34:21,190 --> 00:34:24,490
oh, okay. And. And I was like, cool. And then.

522
00:34:24,990 --> 00:34:28,080
But I was kind of hurt a little bit because it's like, that's fine.

523
00:34:28,580 --> 00:34:31,560
But I think the tactic of how you said it was unnecessary,

524
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,640
bringing it up. Yeah. It was a little Unnecessary. But whatever. You know,

525
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:40,200
that's really the fear that I have because,

526
00:34:40,700 --> 00:34:44,160
like I said, that one situation, I went

527
00:34:44,660 --> 00:34:48,120
with it and I slept with her and the sex wasn't

528
00:34:48,620 --> 00:34:51,920
good. And you don't know until you try it,

529
00:34:52,420 --> 00:34:54,340
though. I know. I agree. I agree.

530
00:34:55,460 --> 00:34:58,660
And that one. That one just kind of backfired. Bite the dust.

531
00:34:58,740 --> 00:35:02,220
Yeah, that one backfired. Now, have you ever had a

532
00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:05,580
situation like that before? I'm sure I have. I'm sure I have. I'm sure I

533
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:10,020
have. I'm sure that I have had situations,

534
00:35:10,980 --> 00:35:14,780
so it's hard for me. There are situations where it's like, God dang it,

535
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:16,740
man, what a waste of my time.

536
00:35:17,860 --> 00:35:21,900
Situations like that. More. Yeah, but situations

537
00:35:26,380 --> 00:35:30,060
man, I. I know I have. I just can't think of one where it's like.

538
00:35:30,940 --> 00:35:33,900
Wasn't really interested. Oh. When I first.

539
00:35:33,980 --> 00:35:37,420
First started. Not with you. Yeah. Yes.

540
00:35:37,900 --> 00:35:41,700
Yeah. Just for the actions, because I was only

541
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,580
with certain. Only with the other two people or three people. So it's like,

542
00:35:46,300 --> 00:35:50,060
I should try this. Yeah. Yes. Oh, my God.

543
00:35:50,620 --> 00:35:54,140
Now I remember when we first started together,

544
00:35:55,660 --> 00:35:59,620
there were situations

545
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,220
where you played and you did it for me.

546
00:36:03,500 --> 00:36:05,100
Yeah. But they weren't unattractive.

547
00:36:07,260 --> 00:36:10,740
Well, so I. I got the question today. I always like

548
00:36:11,240 --> 00:36:13,860
this question whenever it comes up in posts and whatnot, but I got the question

549
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,340
of what was my. My worst sexual experience? Now, if I

550
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,100
had to ask you, what was my worst sexual experience out of all the times

551
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,260
that we've been with people? Your worst. The one that I would consider

552
00:36:26,660 --> 00:36:30,260
not. Not my worst as far as what I produced,

553
00:36:30,820 --> 00:36:34,020
but just one that I would say. Yeah, I didn't care

554
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,940
for that. We have two. We have two. Yeah. Which. Which one do you

555
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,390
think would be the one. One with the lady

556
00:36:42,890 --> 00:36:46,750
who giggled. Oh, dude, she was biting at you.

557
00:36:47,250 --> 00:36:50,550
That one was a pretty bad one. And then where you're watching Four Brothers while

558
00:36:51,050 --> 00:36:54,670
you're. So I forgot about the. The. The lady that was biting

559
00:36:55,170 --> 00:36:59,950
at the air. Yeah. Like a raptor. Yeah. But the

560
00:37:00,030 --> 00:37:03,590
one that. Where I was watching the movie, that's the one that came to

561
00:37:04,090 --> 00:37:08,030
mind today. And that was a good situation. Now let me explain that for

562
00:37:08,530 --> 00:37:12,170
those listening. We had a. A threesome with

563
00:37:12,670 --> 00:37:16,210
this girl, and she called us late.

564
00:37:16,710 --> 00:37:19,730
She called us very late. 1.

565
00:37:19,810 --> 00:37:23,690
She wasn't very attractive. So this was a situation where

566
00:37:24,190 --> 00:37:27,330
it was more of the experience than anything else. And we had kind of a

567
00:37:27,830 --> 00:37:31,090
dry. Season, and she kind of wanted. Yeah. And she was into girls. Yeah.

568
00:37:31,250 --> 00:37:34,810
And. And you were looking for more girl experiences. And this

569
00:37:35,310 --> 00:37:38,340
is kind of the. The best we could do for the time that we were

570
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,420
at, you know, and so we set it up.

571
00:37:43,220 --> 00:37:47,100
She made it seem like she was kind of interested in me. So when

572
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,700
she got there, it became abhorrently

573
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,220
clear that she had new entry whatsoever

574
00:37:55,380 --> 00:37:58,660
and that she was there just for you. Right.

575
00:37:59,380 --> 00:38:02,780
And for me, I was. I was literally

576
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,500
just going through the actions. I don't even know how the hell I was hard.

577
00:38:06,740 --> 00:38:10,740
Yeah. Because it was so interesting to me. I was watching.

578
00:38:11,380 --> 00:38:15,020
I was looking you. You were. You were my show. I thought you were hot.

579
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,300
And I was. But, you know, for one thing, she was wearing these

580
00:38:19,940 --> 00:38:24,460
socks, white socks that

581
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,900
were just kind of curled up at her ankle. They were long socks

582
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,740
that were just kind of loose. The elastic had come loose on them.

583
00:38:33,630 --> 00:38:37,230
They. They had gotten some use. Yeah. Right. The bottom

584
00:38:37,730 --> 00:38:41,070
of them was kind of dark gray. You know, it just kind of dinged.

585
00:38:41,790 --> 00:38:45,150
Okay. I'm painting a picture here for my people.

586
00:38:45,230 --> 00:38:49,149
Okay. Anyway, not a stitch of clothing

587
00:38:49,649 --> 00:38:53,670
on her except for these horrible cat in the hat

588
00:38:54,170 --> 00:38:57,910
type socks that she's got gathered

589
00:38:58,410 --> 00:39:02,070
around her ankle. And she doggy style,

590
00:39:02,310 --> 00:39:05,870
ass up in the air and her face is buried in

591
00:39:06,370 --> 00:39:09,710
between your legs and she's going down on you.

592
00:39:10,210 --> 00:39:12,830
Yeah. I don't know if she's doing a good job or not. I just know

593
00:39:13,330 --> 00:39:16,710
that she's down there. Yeah. You're putting on the show that you normally put

594
00:39:17,210 --> 00:39:21,270
on. Yeah. And you

595
00:39:21,770 --> 00:39:25,760
motioned for me to go behind her and her. Yeah. Which a

596
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,880
doggy style is not my favorite. Yeah. But whatever.

597
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,840
I'm not a fan of trying to get momentum while on

598
00:39:33,340 --> 00:39:36,720
my knees. I'm just not very good at it. I have bad balance,

599
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,320
so I'll probably fall forward or backward, you know, Then what?

600
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,600
So that's not one of my favorites. But then on top

601
00:39:45,100 --> 00:39:48,840
of all that, I've got this woman's legs with her funky socks that are

602
00:39:49,340 --> 00:39:52,920
just grazing against my. My already. You just started watching

603
00:39:53,420 --> 00:39:57,410
tv and. And then on top of all that, we had a

604
00:39:57,910 --> 00:40:01,530
very large screen TV that was up against the wall and it was right there

605
00:40:02,030 --> 00:40:05,450
in front of me and it was playing. Such a great movie.

606
00:40:05,950 --> 00:40:09,210
Four Brothers with Mark Wahlberg. Excellent movie.

607
00:40:09,710 --> 00:40:13,210
Excellent movie and highly recommended,

608
00:40:13,710 --> 00:40:17,130
by the way. And I've seen it a billion times. And I

609
00:40:17,630 --> 00:40:20,860
had the closed captioning on. We had it on low.

610
00:40:21,900 --> 00:40:24,940
But I'm

611
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,180
behind this woman and I'm having sex with her. And it's the most uninteresting

612
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,700
sex of my entire life. Most uninteresting threesome

613
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,420
of my entire life and balls deep inside

614
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,420
this woman, and I'm watching this great movie and

615
00:40:42,380 --> 00:40:45,740
I hear you kind of cough or something. You made a funny noise.

616
00:40:45,990 --> 00:40:49,510
And I look down at you and you're giving me this look of daggers

617
00:40:50,230 --> 00:40:53,670
like, what the fuck, dude? Join me.

618
00:40:54,950 --> 00:40:58,470
And I was like, I just. I'm sorry. But after, after she,

619
00:40:58,550 --> 00:41:01,510
you know, I had. I. I think I faked an orgasm.

620
00:41:02,010 --> 00:41:05,670
Yeah. And that's because I was wearing a condom. I faked an orgasm

621
00:41:06,070 --> 00:41:08,390
and kind of ended that.

622
00:41:09,190 --> 00:41:12,070
And when she left, you were like, what the hell, man? And I was like,

623
00:41:12,570 --> 00:41:15,860
hey, I wasn't into it. Yeah. It was very obvious. She wasn't

624
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,500
into me. Yeah. I didn't find him. On top of that.

625
00:41:19,860 --> 00:41:23,140
That was a situation where I. I had sex and it was just not.

626
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:27,220
It wasn't a good situation. Yeah. And that was probably my worst

627
00:41:28,500 --> 00:41:31,940
sexual. I have had so many. Yeah. Oh, I know.

628
00:41:32,020 --> 00:41:33,940
I've had so many. It's like,

629
00:41:35,460 --> 00:41:39,220
stick with girls. We kind of had. I think

630
00:41:39,720 --> 00:41:42,860
at one point you said, I'm not having sex with men anymore. Yeah.

631
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,500
Like every single one I have is. Is just really,

632
00:41:46,580 --> 00:41:49,220
really not good. Or they.

633
00:41:49,380 --> 00:41:52,860
For their own pleasure. Yeah. Or, you know, like this

634
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,380
long list of. I have so many. You had situations with.

635
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,380
You know, so. But now

636
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,660
that's kind of changed, huh? It has.

637
00:42:05,140 --> 00:42:08,740
The guys are way better now. Yeah. I don't know what it is.

638
00:42:08,990 --> 00:42:12,350
They're just. They're better maybe because. I don't know.

639
00:42:12,850 --> 00:42:16,830
I honestly, I don't know. And again,

640
00:42:17,330 --> 00:42:20,790
I have. I have sympathy. I understand. Nervous situation. Yeah,

641
00:42:21,290 --> 00:42:25,029
whatever. But I

642
00:42:25,529 --> 00:42:28,830
also. Don't waste my time. Yeah. Yeah, don't waste my time. I'll get up.

643
00:42:29,790 --> 00:42:33,030
I'm like, you know, I. I have a theory.

644
00:42:33,530 --> 00:42:37,680
And. And I could be wrong. I mean, it's. Obviously you would know, but I

645
00:42:38,180 --> 00:42:41,760
think that it's because you've broadened your horizons,

646
00:42:42,260 --> 00:42:46,200
so to speak. Or maybe became just a little bit less

647
00:42:46,700 --> 00:42:50,280
selective than you used to be. Well, you started taking chances

648
00:42:50,780 --> 00:42:54,080
on people that you wouldn't have normally taken chances on and found out

649
00:42:54,580 --> 00:42:56,040
that they can actually be pretty satisfying.

650
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,080
Yeah, I really didn't have too much of a mentality here

651
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,440
just because I was going in, being selective. But then a lot of

652
00:43:04,940 --> 00:43:08,460
the guys were like, oh, good looking. And I was like, oh, I'm pretty attracted

653
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,980
to them. Yeah. But yes,

654
00:43:13,020 --> 00:43:17,500
yes, you're probably right on that. But bad experiences,

655
00:43:18,220 --> 00:43:21,420
they do happen. They do happen. Like now

656
00:43:21,820 --> 00:43:25,460
can you have sex with somebody that you have nothing in

657
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,700
common with? Like, there's no common ground. Maybe there's

658
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,090
like a. Well, I mean there's a physical attraction, but there's no

659
00:43:34,590 --> 00:43:37,850
vibe outside of that. Just don't talk. Really. You can have

660
00:43:38,350 --> 00:43:42,170
sex with somebody and, and not be able. Yeah. Are you there sexually?

661
00:43:42,250 --> 00:43:46,050
If you're there? Yes, I can do that. I like you to

662
00:43:46,550 --> 00:43:50,450
watch me. Okay. If I'm not there. Nah, I wouldn't

663
00:43:50,950 --> 00:43:53,370
even bother. Really. No. Interesting.

664
00:43:54,570 --> 00:43:58,370
Wow. If I'm something I'm not interested, like no vibing with.

665
00:43:58,870 --> 00:44:02,020
It's pretty much just for your pleasure. I gotcha. Yeah.

666
00:44:03,060 --> 00:44:06,260
That's very transactional. Very transactional. Yeah.

667
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,700
Yeah. Wow. Huh? Yeah.

668
00:44:09,860 --> 00:44:12,820
It's pretty easy. It's pretty easy.

669
00:44:13,380 --> 00:44:17,260
It's pretty easy. I can't do it. But like

670
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,980
I said. So you wouldn't be good in a different. You wouldn't be good in

671
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,860
an unorganized orgy. An unorganized orgy.

672
00:44:25,380 --> 00:44:29,480
I could, I could if I knew and were attracted

673
00:44:29,980 --> 00:44:32,920
to the people that were there. You don't know them. Well then, no,

674
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,440
I couldn't. They're attractive, but you don't know them. Yeah,

675
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,840
yeah. That's what I'm talking about. Like, it's the same thing.

676
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,120
Yeah. With a key party, you know, it's like the,

677
00:44:43,620 --> 00:44:47,400
the idea first off, somebody. No,

678
00:44:47,900 --> 00:44:50,160
somebody just put one out there. Yeah. But they post. They were like, oh,

679
00:44:50,660 --> 00:44:52,200
I'm thinking about doing a key party. And I was like, what?

680
00:44:53,410 --> 00:44:57,010
Dtf, let's do this. That's, I mean that's essentially what that is, is a key

681
00:44:57,510 --> 00:45:00,810
party, is a down to fuck party. The only difference is that you gotta,

682
00:45:01,310 --> 00:45:04,050
you gotta fuck the person that you got their keys, you know?

683
00:45:05,170 --> 00:45:08,530
And so I think that the

684
00:45:09,030 --> 00:45:13,930
thought of that is

685
00:45:14,430 --> 00:45:18,050
hot. As long as I know that everybody at

686
00:45:18,550 --> 00:45:22,900
the place is somebody that I would be attracted to even, even slightly,

687
00:45:23,620 --> 00:45:27,060
you know? And I, I, I can find something attractive

688
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,980
about a lot of people. You can, Very easily. Yeah.

689
00:45:31,700 --> 00:45:34,980
So part of me wouldn't worry about it, but part of me would

690
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,900
worry about it because I have bad luck. Yeah. And just my

691
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:43,060
luck, I'd pick the one person that I

692
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,380
am not physically attracted to and cannot vibe with whatsoever.

693
00:45:48,740 --> 00:45:52,980
That would be. Meanwhile you would be in a room with probably

694
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,660
the one person that you've been wanting to sleep with for your entire time and

695
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,620
you're turning them out. You know what I mean? Like, and then we

696
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,980
leave and we go get whataburger. And it's like, well, I had a shitty time.

697
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,700
Oh, I had a great time. And then I have to resent you, you know?

698
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,060
It's okay. It's happened. I've never resented you.

699
00:46:12,460 --> 00:46:15,580
No, I resented you. Yeah, that's true.

700
00:46:17,020 --> 00:46:21,340
That's true. You know, I. I'm always just

701
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,340
afraid of that. That idea that I'm just not

702
00:46:25,820 --> 00:46:29,420
physically attracted. Because what. What used to happen

703
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,140
was when we were early on, if we

704
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:37,490
didn't find somebody physically attracted, we just stopped talking to them.

705
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,160
We didn't pursue a friendship. That was it.

706
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,600
It's like, okay, nice to meet you. And then we walked away and

707
00:46:46,100 --> 00:46:49,600
we never attempted again. Or we ended up at the same parties, but we just

708
00:46:50,100 --> 00:46:50,760
didn't. We didn't talk.

709
00:46:53,559 --> 00:46:57,480
That's different now, because now

710
00:46:57,980 --> 00:47:01,400
we make friends with everybody. Yes. And so while

711
00:47:01,900 --> 00:47:05,160
we may not be attracted to somebody, you know, you. You get

712
00:47:05,660 --> 00:47:07,720
to know them and you become friends with them. And it's like, well,

713
00:47:09,610 --> 00:47:13,770
would I, in the heat of passion at

714
00:47:14,270 --> 00:47:18,410
a DTF party where I'm getting on, would I maybe.

715
00:47:18,810 --> 00:47:21,210
I don't know. I don't know.

716
00:47:21,450 --> 00:47:25,290
You're. It's easier, I think, for. And I

717
00:47:25,790 --> 00:47:28,650
don't know, people will probably disagree with me on this, but I think it's easier

718
00:47:29,150 --> 00:47:32,810
for a woman to say no than it is for a man. Some women don't

719
00:47:33,310 --> 00:47:36,630
like to hurt feelings. Yeah, some women are

720
00:47:37,130 --> 00:47:40,230
very sweet and they don't like to hurt feelings. I'm not that woman.

721
00:47:40,710 --> 00:47:43,470
But you're good at saying things. Oh, I don't say.

722
00:47:43,970 --> 00:47:47,350
Horrible way. Yeah. I'm like. But I don't mind speaking my mind. Right.

723
00:47:47,850 --> 00:47:51,110
And I can do it very nicely. I wouldn't hurt your feelings. I'm not a.

724
00:47:51,750 --> 00:47:54,590
Yeah, I mean, I'm A when I want to be a. But no, not when

725
00:47:55,090 --> 00:47:58,630
it. Not when it comes to LS people. Like, I'm very considerate.

726
00:47:58,790 --> 00:48:02,240
Okay. And I don't want

727
00:48:02,740 --> 00:48:06,080
to leave a bad taste in their mouth. You know, Just because I'm not gonna.

728
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:10,000
You doesn't mean we still can be friends. Right? You know?

729
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,320
No other people outside of the ls. I'm A to them and I'll

730
00:48:13,820 --> 00:48:16,520
tell them straight out. But no, my LS peeps.

731
00:48:17,020 --> 00:48:20,440
No, I'm nicer. Way nicer. Yeah. Because these men are

732
00:48:20,940 --> 00:48:24,240
vulnerable. Like, period.

733
00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:27,960
They're vulnerable. They're asking you to sleep with them.

734
00:48:28,460 --> 00:48:31,700
They're asking you to get naked with them.

735
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,180
They're asking you to do something. Of course I'm going to be super kind about

736
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,420
it. I'm not gonna. Right. You know anybody else? Yeah.

737
00:48:41,500 --> 00:48:44,140
Yeah, yeah. No, not my LS people.

738
00:48:44,380 --> 00:48:47,500
No. Nice. Yeah. I'm nice to them now because I'M

739
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,420
sympathetic. Do you find yourself ever losing interest in

740
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,950
somebody because maybe they pushed

741
00:48:56,450 --> 00:48:59,670
a boundary or broke a rule or anything

742
00:49:00,170 --> 00:49:02,390
like that? I. This is where I come in and I'm the odd person.

743
00:49:02,470 --> 00:49:06,310
I will lose interest in people if they've sour me

744
00:49:06,470 --> 00:49:09,670
in something. Yeah. If they said something,

745
00:49:10,170 --> 00:49:13,910
if they did something. And it could be something they didn't even think did

746
00:49:14,410 --> 00:49:19,270
anything to me. Yeah. But maybe they posted something or something.

747
00:49:19,590 --> 00:49:23,740
I will lose interest immediately.

748
00:49:24,220 --> 00:49:28,540
Like seconds. That's incredible.

749
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,700
Yeah. Judge of character. I'm a big

750
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,380
judge of care. And I can judge your character so quick.

751
00:49:36,860 --> 00:49:40,460
Really? Yeah, yeah, that's true. I say really, like,

752
00:49:40,540 --> 00:49:43,820
so quick, like I already know the outcome and how it's

753
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,940
gonna play out and whatever. And it's like. Yeah,

754
00:49:48,290 --> 00:49:52,250
yeah, no, I know what you mean. And I've

755
00:49:52,750 --> 00:49:56,410
seen it in action. I've seen it in play. Yeah. And it's

756
00:49:56,910 --> 00:50:00,690
that quick. Yeah, it is literally that. It is that quick. I have

757
00:50:01,190 --> 00:50:04,650
had you literally from second to second.

758
00:50:05,150 --> 00:50:08,730
You've seen somebody kiss somebody that you didn't care for. And then you

759
00:50:09,230 --> 00:50:12,170
looked at me and you went, nope. Well, I guess I'm not him. Oh,

760
00:50:12,670 --> 00:50:16,040
yeah. And I'm like, yeah, I'm very quick like that. Yeah,

761
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,200
yeah. Or. Or. Did you hear what he said when we were out?

762
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:24,120
Yeah. Nope, not him. No, it's like,

763
00:50:24,620 --> 00:50:26,360
damn. Or if I see someone.

764
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,560
No, never mind. What? No, I got. What? Like, if I

765
00:50:33,060 --> 00:50:36,920
see somebody that I like, comment on somebody they don't like, I'm like

766
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,640
that, dude, I ain't you. Her and I are not

767
00:50:41,140 --> 00:50:43,370
on the same level. Like, I know. No,

768
00:50:44,730 --> 00:50:47,610
no, that's. You know, I mean,

769
00:50:48,810 --> 00:50:52,650
you, You. I hold myself.

770
00:50:52,970 --> 00:50:56,850
Myself up to very high standards. Sure. Myself.

771
00:50:57,350 --> 00:51:00,170
I'm not saying I'm a snob, but I hold myself up to very high standards.

772
00:51:00,670 --> 00:51:04,010
Because I was never like that. I didn't care.

773
00:51:04,410 --> 00:51:07,730
But I hold myself up to high standards. I hold my husband.

774
00:51:08,230 --> 00:51:11,450
I hold you up to high standards. Like. Yeah, you have. We ain't picking

775
00:51:11,950 --> 00:51:15,450
the bottom of the barrel here. This is. I think that you and I

776
00:51:15,950 --> 00:51:19,490
are. Are well liked, nice enough

777
00:51:19,990 --> 00:51:23,130
people. And we are not ugly. Like,

778
00:51:23,690 --> 00:51:27,130
we're not unattractive. We're not unattractive. So it's like, yeah,

779
00:51:27,290 --> 00:51:30,970
you can be a little picky. Choosy. You can be a little picky too.

780
00:51:31,470 --> 00:51:35,130
I think so. Yeah. I mean, if people disagree,

781
00:51:35,630 --> 00:51:38,890
that's okay, but. And I'm. I'm not a snob about it, but. Yeah. And you

782
00:51:39,390 --> 00:51:42,170
gotta be a little picky choosy. Yeah. I Mean, there's gotta be a. There's gotta

783
00:51:42,670 --> 00:51:46,770
be some sort of physical attraction. Yeah. And what you and I find attractive

784
00:51:47,010 --> 00:51:50,210
can sometimes be the same, and sometimes it can be very different.

785
00:51:51,330 --> 00:51:55,010
It's almost always very different. Oh, we've had some that are the same.

786
00:51:55,090 --> 00:51:58,450
It's sometimes. Yeah, sometimes. Oh, hey.

787
00:51:58,690 --> 00:52:02,130
Always different. I. For the most part, you're attracted to something else,

788
00:52:02,630 --> 00:52:05,250
and I'm. I can be attracted to the same person but for a different quality

789
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,480
is what I'm trying to say. Yeah. Oh, okay. I get you.

790
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:13,520
I get you. Well, you know, that's. And that.

791
00:52:14,020 --> 00:52:17,920
That kind of leads me to, you know, because there's all these different scenarios.

792
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:23,000
Another scenario I have here is say

793
00:52:23,500 --> 00:52:26,920
you, you know, you're talking to a

794
00:52:27,420 --> 00:52:31,570
couple and they let

795
00:52:32,070 --> 00:52:35,810
you know that they've been exposed to an STI and

796
00:52:36,290 --> 00:52:39,650
you really were looking forward to playing with them, but then you find that out.

797
00:52:41,090 --> 00:52:41,730
What? That.

798
00:52:44,290 --> 00:52:47,970
Then we're done. Completely. I mean,

799
00:52:49,570 --> 00:52:53,650
I guess it would depend what STI it is and proof

800
00:52:54,150 --> 00:52:57,380
that they're not contagious anymore. Do you

801
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,820
know what I mean? Huh? Nah. Honestly, it's me.

802
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,660
No. Yeah. I wouldn't play with them. That would be. That would be.

803
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:06,740
That would. For me, that would be a no. That would be a no.

804
00:53:07,240 --> 00:53:10,460
Only because I'm very paranoid about stuff like that. Yeah. Like. Yeah. I've never had

805
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:15,060
one, and I don't want to have one. And. No. Yeah. I'm so susceptible.

806
00:53:15,700 --> 00:53:18,540
Oh, you are. Like, even if you have a cough, I don't want to go

807
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:23,860
around you or what. What's the word that we use? You are immunocompromised.

808
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,670
Yeah. So it's like. No. Yeah. You get sick real quick. No.

809
00:53:28,070 --> 00:53:31,550
And then antibiotics, forget it. Then I'm gonna get a yeast infection, and then I

810
00:53:32,050 --> 00:53:35,190
gotta get on medication for that. Oh, yeah.

811
00:53:35,350 --> 00:53:36,150
Sexy hour.

812
00:53:38,390 --> 00:53:41,990
Okay. Yeah. You know, I mean, there's. There's just different

813
00:53:42,390 --> 00:53:45,990
situations. Different scenarios. And some. Some people just don't

814
00:53:46,790 --> 00:53:50,350
know how to voice that. Yeah. I know

815
00:53:50,850 --> 00:53:54,240
some people get ghosted over situations like that. Yeah. Because people don't know how

816
00:53:54,740 --> 00:53:58,400
to communicate. I feel like we're in such a good community, and if you

817
00:53:58,900 --> 00:54:01,760
have that and you have somebody you want to play with, tell them.

818
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,320
They may be okay with it. You know, they may be

819
00:54:05,820 --> 00:54:08,320
okay with waiting and. And figuring it all out.

820
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,960
Some people do. Yeah. No, I know plenty of people that do.

821
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,080
Yeah. So I. I find it.

822
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,820
I find it interesting, though, is.

823
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,940
Is the different scenarios, the different personalities,

824
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:30,300
the different types of people that we have in this Community. It's. It's really diverse.

825
00:54:30,780 --> 00:54:34,540
Very. It's really diverse. And, you know, of course, people travel

826
00:54:34,700 --> 00:54:38,420
all the time. This isn't your work where you see

827
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,340
the same people all the time. People come and go in your area. All of

828
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,620
a sudden there's somebody new who's popping up, and they just moved here from

829
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,080
wherever. Maybe they were in the lifestyle there,

830
00:54:50,580 --> 00:54:54,080
maybe they weren't, you know, maybe they come with other lifestyle friends, you know?

831
00:54:54,580 --> 00:54:58,560
Right. But it's so diverse, and there's so many different personalities

832
00:54:59,060 --> 00:55:02,480
and so many different types of people

833
00:55:02,980 --> 00:55:06,400
that you wouldn't even figure you'd be friends with. But then you

834
00:55:06,900 --> 00:55:10,120
meet them and you're like, oh, wow, this is. This is our people.

835
00:55:10,620 --> 00:55:14,310
These are our people. And I think that's really

836
00:55:14,810 --> 00:55:17,590
cool. And I think with that, we're going to go ahead and wrap up the

837
00:55:18,090 --> 00:55:22,110
show today. But just letting our diverse,

838
00:55:22,510 --> 00:55:24,030
crazy, crazy diverse,

839
00:55:25,470 --> 00:55:28,190
crazy diverse community.

840
00:55:28,829 --> 00:55:32,790
I want to let you guys. Why are you repeating it? Because we're

841
00:55:33,290 --> 00:55:35,550
crazy, crazy diverse. That's what we are.

842
00:55:36,430 --> 00:55:40,370
I just want to let our community know that we are very

843
00:55:40,870 --> 00:55:44,010
happy that we're a part of it. We're very happy that you're a part of

844
00:55:44,510 --> 00:55:47,770
it, and we're glad that you're listening,

845
00:55:48,270 --> 00:55:51,730
and we're glad that we can maybe provide some

846
00:55:52,230 --> 00:55:55,290
entertainment. We're not experts by any means.

847
00:55:55,790 --> 00:55:58,610
We're just a couple of people just like you in the lifestyle.

848
00:55:59,570 --> 00:56:02,810
And I'm sure that there's a lot of different situations where we don't know

849
00:56:03,310 --> 00:56:06,760
what the hell we're talking about. Yes. So, you know,

850
00:56:07,260 --> 00:56:10,360
obviously we're not to be used as textbook, but,

851
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,960
you know, we are here for entertainment purposes and. And we

852
00:56:15,460 --> 00:56:18,560
hope enjoy our show because we do it for

853
00:56:19,060 --> 00:56:22,800
you. Yes. And. And. And get feedback from

854
00:56:23,300 --> 00:56:26,280
y' all. Just. It tickles our pickle. Yes.

855
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,640
Yeah. Yeah. Tickles are. Tickles are pickle.

856
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,220
How about to tickle your pickle? Okay. All before

857
00:56:33,720 --> 00:56:37,060
supper. Hey. All right. Well, thank you guys for tuning in. By the way,

858
00:56:38,260 --> 00:56:42,020
if you haven't noticed, this is normally our quickie episode.

859
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:46,540
That's not so quick. We actually decided to

860
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,540
take a little break. We have family and.

861
00:56:49,940 --> 00:56:53,380
And so we took a. An episode off. So we went ahead and made this

862
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,140
one an hour long and the next one be an hour long.

863
00:56:57,380 --> 00:57:00,590
So we'll see you guys next. Bye,

864
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:23,960
Sa.