S1 E11 Exploring Separate Play: Finding Freedom in Fidelity

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Hello again and welcome to another episode of Beyond Monogamy.

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I'm Adam. And I'm Pris. And today we are.

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Actually, I decided we're gonna bring up a

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topic that you and I have actually been talking a lot about lately,

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and that is separation play or separate play.

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Yeah, separation play. Yeah, that's right. We're playing like we're separated.

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No, no, no. Separate play. So I. I find

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this topic to be very interesting. I.

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I love to get your opinions on this topic. Why? Because you're very opinionated.

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I am very opinionated. And you and I, we. We see

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different. We. We do see different. And we kind of go back and forth with

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it. So I always thought that this was going to be a fun episode,

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too. Because you want to be a single hoe. Oh, my gosh.

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There she goes. There she goes. Well, you know, for some of you that are

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listening, if you have tuned into our poly episode, you kind of

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know here and there where our stances lie

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as far as. Do they. How we don't like

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to share our time. And by we, I mean

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we. But we. Yeah.

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So realistically, as of lately,

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probably the past, I don't know, four or five

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months, we have been talking about separate play.

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Yes. We have not really initiated it.

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No. Except maybe once. Maybe. Maybe.

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Yeah. And that was a whim. But we have been

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talking about separate play for a while. After our

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poly situation, we decided to end that.

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You know, I. I really felt like I needed

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a connection with other people.

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And it doesn't necessarily have to be romantic.

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Right. So I remember talking to you, and I was like, why can't we

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do, like, the friends with benefits. Yeah. Situation. Yeah.

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Because frankly, as a couple, we. And we've

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always been a couple seeking out other couples.

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Right. Well, because we like each other there. We do.

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So that's like. That's the only issue. But we can jump on that later.

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We. We are each other's safety and comfort. Yeah.

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So we do. We like each other. There's. Yeah. Initially,

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I had Brought up the discussion of separate play

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because of how difficult it

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was to enjoy myself with other

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women while you were there. Right.

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I want to say where it really came up was we were

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with this one couple where we were at their

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house, and they didn't

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know how to start things. And we were all in the living room,

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and the woman of the couple was

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like, so how do we start this? And me just being who

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I am, I went ahead and jumped out there and I started kissing her,

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and we started making out. And you were sitting on the couch.

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We were standing kind of in front of you and her, and I kind of

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got hot and heavy, and she was like, you want to go to the bedroom?

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And I was like, hell, yeah, let's do this. And so she grabbed me by

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the hand, and we started walking to the bedroom, and you were sitting on the

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couch, and you kind of had this look of like, where are you going?

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What's going on? What's happening? Why are you leaving? Because we never done that before.

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We had never done. And so just that response

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alone kind of made me a little uncomfortable. I was like,

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oh, she looks uncomfortable. This. I don't know how it's going to work. But finally

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I was like, it's okay. We're just going to this room. Yeah. You're going to

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follow. Yeah, yeah. And so we went to the room,

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and her and I, me and this woman, we got started in the room,

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and her and I were in the bed. And I remember you coming

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in very quickly and just kind of jumping

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on me and kind of. You were like, I need to kiss you and this

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sort of thing. And I could tell by your reactions

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and. And how you were looking, you seem to

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really have some sort of separation anxiety. Yeah, for sure. And I

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was like, okay, this is. This is going to be an interesting. Right time.

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Yeah. And so we ended up playing, and it

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wasn't a bad issue at all, but it was the first

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portion. It's the way it started. And seeing how you reacted

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that really made me kind of worry about you. And I saw

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I was, like, constantly checking on you, and so I really couldn't enjoy

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myself because I was worried about you, and I

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wanted to make sure that you were having a good time and everything was going

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okay with you. And so when we left there and we

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talked about everything, I remember thinking, well,

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if I can't enjoy myself,

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that's you probably with the other person. Sorry. Oh, that's.

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That's real funny. That's good. I mean, no, I did make it Hard,

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because even before that, I would tell you, hey,

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only one round or something. Yeah, no, you would make it so it

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wasn't, you know, for lack of. Of a better phrase, you really made

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it unenjoyable. Yeah, for sure. Because I couldn't enjoy myself

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with the other person because I was too busy worried about what your reactions were

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going to be and that sort of thing. You didn't know how to balance it.

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I couldn't balance it, you know, because either I had

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to pay all attention to you or I

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had to be with this other woman and still pay attention to you to

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make you happy. Yeah, that was not going to work for me because

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I can't enjoy myself sexually if I'm worried about you the entire time.

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And so I remember talking to you about it and saying,

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you know, maybe we should try separate play because I

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would like to enjoy myself. And so

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that's when we kind of came up with the idea of, okay,

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we'll do like a friends with benefit benefits situation.

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You know, for a woman, it's a lot easier to just

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put it out there and say, hey, I'm looking for

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a guy for tonight to have a little fun. You're going to have

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like 20 guys message you, and you can easily pick and

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choose, but from a guy's standpoint, it's a lot

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harder. I can't just put out there and say, hey, I'm.

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I'm looking for a little fun with some. Some girl

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tonight, you know, away from my wife. Hell no,

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man. Like, it doesn't. I have to. I mean, you've never tried it.

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No, but I have to put in some time. Yeah, for sure you do.

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For. For the ones that I'm interested in. Yeah. I have to put in time.

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I have to hang out with them. I have to talk to them. Right.

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They're not transactional. Right. I have to establish a connection.

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Right. And so that's really where, you know, I was like,

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okay, I'm gonna have to put in time. So it really is gonna have to

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be a friends with benefits situation. But either

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way, we're here now. Yeah. And this is

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where we're at. I, you know, the way you're looking at me

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is not very loving. So I don't know if this is a good topic

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to have or what. But you're looking at me like, oh, no, it's fine.

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If we were recording this session, he would be like, oh, she's pissed off at

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him. She's gonna stab you. She's got daggers for him. She's not looking at me

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very lovingly. And it's

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because separate play is kind of a touchy subject. Yeah. So we,

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I mean, so we do do separate play. We.

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And it is more with friends with benefits. So we. You like to.

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Well, we both like to establish friendship. Yeah. Right. And then be

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comfortable with everybody. Right. So we did put some rules

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on it. Yes, yes, we did. Yeah, we have a little bit of,

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of rules. So I finally realized that I like

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to plan your separate play.

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So you like to be the plan. Like that is the hot part of it.

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And I just realized that. So how did you come about that?

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So we had a friend who's looking for

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a playmate. Yeah. You know, somebody to spend some time with sexually.

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And I know them and we know them and we're.

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Even though I've only met them a few times, I could tell they're cool

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people. Yeah. And so if I get that vibe, I'm down.

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And so she reached out, I reached,

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you know, and I talked to her and, And I'm setting up a plate date

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for you, which I find is very hot.

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Hot. So I guess maybe it's me controlling it

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and that makes it more comfortable. For me rather than

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me reaching out and, and setting it up for me. Now, I'm not

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saying that I get to pick your play person. I know who you're attracted

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to. To. I'm not going to set you up with, you know,

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some girl that I don't think you're attracted to.

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Sure. And so I, I realize,

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okay, yeah, we, we can do this. I,

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I, as long as I realize that I like it, I like to set

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it up. I guess my question to you is, is it.

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So it's the act of setting up the date that gets you,

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which got me. Yeah, yeah. Got me kind of very turned on. So say,

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I say there's somebody that I'm talking to that I want to play with.

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Do I just tell her, hey, do me a favor, message my wife. Is she

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married? I don't know. I mean, this is a hypothetical. Well, that's the thing.

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It, that's why it, like it differs. Is it a single person?

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If it's. So why does it differ? So if it's a couple, I know

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how secure they are and where that's going.

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Okay. Do you know what I mean? So it's like somebody coming to us.

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Like, we are, we're secure. Sure. You're not going anywhere.

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I'm not going anywhere. Right. You know, it's different when it's a single person.

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It's a single person. Okay. Don't know if I

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met them. Like, you know, I like to at least meet if it's a single.

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So say it's somebody that we've met before. Okay. At a meet and greet or

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we've hung out a couple times. They seem like nice people or. Nice person.

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Yeah. Single girl. Yeah. But maybe she seems more into me.

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Yeah, but she's expressed interest in both of

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us or whatever. Like. But maybe she wants to play

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with you once in a while. Or she wants to play with me once in

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a while in that situation. Say they talk to me one

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on one and they're like, hey, I'd really like to set something up. Do I

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just tell them, hey, hit my wife? I would love. I would love for them

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to hit me up. Because that's her kink. She likes to set it up.

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Yeah, yeah. And. And most people in that list will

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understand that it's a kink. Right. I. I like. That's the one thing

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that I do love. Yeah. Like, let me talk to you for a bit because

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I want to know where. You know, what, What's. What is this? Like, you just.

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You're good for the. Just bang. And you may not bang them again after that

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for a very long time or f. At all. So, like, you know,

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how. How is it? Like, let's. Let's do that. Yeah, I do. I like

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setting it up. Now, of course, if you find somebody and you want

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to play with them, you just send. You know, tell them to reach up.

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Well, see, that's the funny part is I hate setting it up. I don't like

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setting it up for myself. I thought I was very hot. For me to set

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it up for you. I'd rather you set it up. Yeah. And like, I'm talking

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to her and I'm telling her, well, this is what I want. And I want

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videos. Like, are you cool with that? Because I will straight up ask

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them. You cool with videos and pics? You do not like asking a

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girl that you're gonna see, hey, can I send a picture? Well, because not everybody

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is. Yeah, I don't need to see your face. I just want to see the

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act. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, if you're. If, if the person's going down

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on me, you're gonna see their face. Yeah, because they're going down. Yeah.

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I don't know. I mean, it's. It. Whenever we record, we're not going to share

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it with others. Yeah, exactly. But it's just for us. And that's Why? I was

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like, I was telling her, like, you can record. That's fine. I.

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I want to see it. So I like the act of setting up.

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Now it's. You have different takes. You don't.

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I mean, you want to meet the person that I. If I go and play

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with them. Yeah. You don't care if you set it up or I set it

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up. I don't care if you set up or I. I would actually prefer you

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set it up for yourself, because then that means that chances

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are you're attracted to the person you're setting up with. Yeah.

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So for the longest time when we've been in the lifestyle,

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my kink has been the hot wife. Kink. Yeah. And that consented

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cheating. And so I would always tell you, hey, you know, if there's somebody interested,

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go out and play with them, and then come back and show

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me the video while we have sex or whatever, you know? Right. And so we've

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been kind of doing that for a while, and when we

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do, I feel like, you know, you.

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You don't really care about the person. It's not really something that you want.

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It's very transactional. Right. So it's almost like you're doing it

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for me. Yeah. And while I like that you

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would. Like, it's more attractive. I. That I'm attracted to the person

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and. I. Hotter for me. It's hotter for me knowing that you want somebody

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else. Right. And that you want to. To do

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that. Like, that's hot for me. Yeah. And so

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you would tell me all the time, well, just set it up. Just find somebody

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and have them come over. And while the act was hot, it just

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wasn't the same for me. Right. And so I really was like, dude,

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can't you find somebody that you like

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as a person, like, as a friend that we can both like as a friend?

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And it's somebody that you can just hit up every now and then and

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be like, hey, I could really, really use some dick right now. Yeah. You know,

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and so that's what I was really hoping that you could find as well.

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Right. And I mean, I, I, yeah, I'm looking. I'm looking.

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You're looking. Yeah. I mean, we have people that are really nearby,

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but yeah. Now with couples are.

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We have a rule for that. We do. Because I have, I made. I deal

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with fomo, so I'm like, if there's a couple out there that I.

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I'm into or I find attractive, but they want another

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woman to play, hey, by all means, you can go over there all day long,

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every day. But I want to be able to have

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the experience first. So I don't really create rules.

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I'm not the rule creator. Most of the rules that we have are for you.

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Okay. Or from you. Yeah. But I created

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a rule finally, and I said, hey,

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you know, if you want to play with couples, my only

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rule is that we have to all four play together. Yes.

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And at least once, all four of us have to play together and

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have a good time. So that. This way, afterwards, if you want to join them,

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I'll know what that experience was like.

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Right. And, you know, it'll be that much hotter and I

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won't have fomo. Yeah. I'll be like, oh, I got to enjoy that myself.

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I mean, that's a good. I think that's a good rule all around. Because I'm

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sure there's people that only want to play with you. So. So, like, if it's

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like, if it's a couple. So like this, for instance, they're a couple,

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but only she's going to be playing with you. Right. You know, so.

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I mean, I don't play with guys, so. No, but I meant, like her.

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It's not for you to join in as. Right? Well, I duh.

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Yeah. Well, I mean, let's be specific. Be specific. Yeah.

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So it's. That's the cool thing, that it's just going to be y. And we've

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never played with them. No, we haven't. We've never played with them.

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So that would be a new experience for you. And I thought that was

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hot. I was like, yeah, okay, go ahead. I mean, we're gonna play with

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them, but. Yeah, but I meant, like, you know, like, that would be your first

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time. Yeah. And. And you know, it's. It's. It's kind of hot.

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It is actually really hot. And I gotta tell you, as soon as it was

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set up. Yeah. You and I couldn't keep our hands off each

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other. It's been like. Because I. I'm very. I'm a very

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jealous person. Point blank. Like, I am a very jealous

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person. I am way better than I

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ever was. Like, you are getting me at my.

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But you could be better. Whatever. You could be better.

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You're way better than you are. But you could be better. But I'm

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just saying, you know, it is what it is. Throwing it out there.

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Welcome to your life, sir. Way, way better

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way. I mean, it goes both ways, right? So wait,

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what does that mean? It goes both ways? Yeah. I got no jealousy. You could

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be more sensitive to my jealousy. I. I feel like I am very sensitive

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to jealousies. Are you telling me I'm not? And this is why you get the

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looks of have dagger. Hey, man, look at me all you want, but you know

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as well as I do, I take care of you. Yes. So I am

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a very jealous person. And it's.

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It's just something I don't always look for, like. Yeah, we can play

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separately every now and then, but I did realize that I like to set it

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up for you. Yeah. So that's the fun part. It is. It is pretty

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hot. I think this is the first time that.

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That I'm gonna play with somebody separately and

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feel comfortable about it because.

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And you've set something up for me before. I've set it up,

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actually. Yeah, You've set it up. I've never. I was very uncomfortable

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the entire time. I. I didn't get to enjoy it as much because

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I was worried about you, even though you weren't there. Yeah. I was worried about

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you. Yeah. You know, your reactions are everything to me. Yeah.

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And sometimes your reactions are not great. No. And then as soon as I

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see a reaction that's not great, well, then I pull back and I'm like.

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Well, I mean, we talk about it. So, like, we. We discussed it.

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We discuss a lot of things, too, you know,

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for a long time. Because at the moment. And again,

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one, I'm. I'm not going to know if I like something or we're not going

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to know if we like something until we try it. Right. And so this is

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going to be a first. I set it up. You're going to do it.

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And I'm actually. I used to have that

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real jealous, insecure feeling

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about things like that. I don't have one.

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Really. Yeah. And I'm thinking, because,

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one, I know her, and I know her

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relationship. Okay. And that makes me feel so

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much better. Yeah. And I

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guess just the fact that I kind of, like, was like, dude,

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no, really, like, he can totally go over there and do this.

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And her. And I spoke about it like, one. She.

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I said that. And then she immediately reached out

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to me. Yeah. And we immediately had a conversation, which I thought

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was the best because she asked me,

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what are your rules? What are your boundaries? What's off limits? No,

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that doesn't happen very often. No. And I feel like that made it

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so much better. Anybody want to play with you, by all means,

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send them my way. Like that. That's all I have. That conversation that

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we had was great. Yeah.

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And I set my boundaries and I set my rules.

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You know, I'm like, you already know what they are because you and

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I have already talked about it. Right? Yeah. And then I just, you know,

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and it's more like, I guess the controlling in me

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because you feel better. I don't care how

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anybody else sees their, Their, Their lifestyle, I like, that's their thing.

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But for here, for Priscilla and Adam.

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Yeah. You are mine. I'm going to lend you out to whomever

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I want to lend you out to. Like, yeah, you are my piece of meat.

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Well, what's funny is so, so in the lifestyle, a lot of people, they,

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they get triggered by that ownership. And I'm sorry that you get

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triggered. But yeah, you know, that's kind of always been our thing. Even though we

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share with each other and we both have said, I don't own you.

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Yeah. But I. But I own you. You know what I'm saying? That's my dick

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right there exactly. Like. Like I share you with people, but you're

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coming back to me. Yeah. And so she was super, super respectful.

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Like, I give her. Hells Yeah. I was like, dude,

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I can even send him over there at night whenever we're home, like you.

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I said. Or vice versa. Yeah. You know, he can send me over there.

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Like, that's what we wanted. Yes.

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And look at that. You know, like. Yeah. Realistically, what we always

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wanted was we wanted a couple that we could be friends with that didn't live

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far. Yeah. That we could play with together as a couple.

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Right. But we could also go, hey, you know, I'm, I'm cooking and I'm

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going to have family dinner with the kids. Why don't you go over there and

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go play? Yeah. And then come back and we can have some fun. Yeah.

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That sort of thing. And so. Dude, that's hot. That is. I totally.

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I'm trying to get to. I'm trying to get to your level. I don't know

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if I'm ever going to get to your level of that uncomfortable feeling when it

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feels good far. I will tell you. Yeah. I will tell you that

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the whole transaction that happened. Yeah.

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To the setup on point. Really give her

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props. Yeah. Because she did it right. You know,

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I, I think that's so funny because

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in the 13 years that we've been Lifestyle. Yeah.

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That has rarely happened, if at all that's ever happened.

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Like, you did not tell her to reach out to me. No,

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she did it. Now that's how I, like,

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like, if I'm going to Meet up with the guy and I

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know they play separate. I'm gonna. I'm gonna tell the wife. I'm gonna be like,

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hey, you know, so and so. And I'm super happy that you

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are, you know, letting him play with me. Yeah.

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Anything you need. Like, anything you want me to do beforehand,

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something that he shouldn't be doing. You know, because in the moment,

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men can be silly. So. So,

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yeah, I. I really like that. It was really. It was really

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cool. It's making it easier for me

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to be cool with the whole.

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Sure. So. Because. Because you have. You have

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it in your head that, that people. That women

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want to take me away from you.

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No, not take away. This is where I have trouble.

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Okay. So it's not take away. It's more clinginess.

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We've had it. We've had some issues where women just are

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your friends and have

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that clinginess of just constant

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atom time. Constant atom time. Constant atom time.

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Yeah, yeah, we've had that. I mean, she didn't live. She didn't live here.

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She lived in California. Oh, that. But it's a lot of. Oh,

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can I video chat you and can I call you? Well, that. I mean,

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I know that was. That was a different situation, but I'm saying. Situation. Yeah,

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but like, still, like, I don't, I don't like clinginess.

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So I don't know how this is going to go. I don't know. What.

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Friends with benefits? Well, obviously.

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So there's one way or another, there's going to be some sort of clinginess.

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If we're going to be at an event. And I, I pretty

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much expect this from anybody I sleep with. If we're going to

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be at an event and I see somebody that I have spent

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time with and, and we've had sex and whatnot,

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I would expect that they're going to want to hang out for a little bit

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or they're going to be near me and they're going to want to, like,

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hug and do that whole thing. But, I mean, I don't expect them to stay

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by my side all night. Yeah. Like, they're my partner. Yeah. No, you know what

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I mean? Friends do that. Yeah, exactly. There's. There is some level of

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clinginess. No, you. But like, different. Like a constant.

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Like, hey, I'm by myself. Can you come over like two,

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three times a week? Nah. Nope.

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No. Okay, so it can't be a constant thing.

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No, not a constant constant thing. Why? No,

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just because it's like, don't take Away from my time. No regularity

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to it. Well, I mean, I don't know yet. I don't know yet. So that's.

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That's something that I don't know. See, this is the whole point. I'm trying

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to figure you. So it sounds. It sounds great in my head.

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But if you go there on a Monday and then you're going there

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on a Wednesday, I don't know.

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I don't know how I'm gonna feel in my head right now. I could be

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like, yeah, no, that's a little bit too much. But then is it.

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Is it? Yeah, I don't know. So I can tell you that I'm

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excited about it because the whole point of the lifestyle, for me,

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the thing that I'm excited about is the sexual freedom of the

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whole lifestyle. Right. I like sexual freedom.

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I don't like having chains put on me and say, okay, you can do

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this, but you can't do this. You can do this, but you can't do this.

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Yeah, I feel sex is. Sex is fine. I'm talking about my time.

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Like, well, yeah, but sex is time. Yeah, but it's not like I can

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walk in. Two minutes later, I'm walking out. I guess I could if it was

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really good, but I don't want to. Like, if I'm gonna go have

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fun with somebody, I want an hour, hour and a half, maybe two

417
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hours. Oh, yeah. I don't how long you're there. I'm talking about

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your time. No, I meant like, consecutive days.

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Like, no, you can do once a week,

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maybe. Like, I don't know. I don't know. And I don't know if there's.

421
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If there's supposed to be rules in my head yet, so. And see, here's the

422
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problem that I have is that it's. You've set this up

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for me. Yeah. And that's great and all. And I'm excited about it.

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And easily, this is a person that I'm. I'm friends with, and I could

425
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easily have the friends with benefit situation, which is what I always wanted.

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You, on the other hand, don't have anybody that

427
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you are interested in. Oh, I do. Do you?

428
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Yeah. And they're nearby. Yeah. Yeah.

429
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Okay. It's just I used to say, you know, I'm really

430
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busy and I just don't have time. And you go do it. Yeah, no,

431
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it's not even that anymore. Like, I just. It really is

432
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a busy time for both of us. It is. And you're. You're doing this during

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probably during the day when you can have a day off. Right. Well, do you

434
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know what I mean? For me? Right. So that's super convenient.

435
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Now, are you going to be taking days off all the time?

436
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No, no, no, Obviously, that's what I mean. Like,

437
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I mean, I can't take days. Off all the time. Yeah. I don't want you

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taking days off. Now, if. If it's like a Sunday and

439
00:25:40,790 --> 00:25:44,094
then you're like, hey, so and so wants me to go over and it's

440
00:25:44,222 --> 00:25:47,662
already been like, since like, you met her Sunday. Okay, well, I want to do

441
00:25:47,686 --> 00:25:51,198
like a Saturday morning or some. That's fine. Yeah, but like,

442
00:25:51,254 --> 00:25:53,454
don't tell me. Sunday, and then you're going to do Tuesday, and then you're going

443
00:25:53,462 --> 00:25:56,490
to do Thursday and you're going to do. No, sir,

444
00:25:56,990 --> 00:25:59,766
that is mine. That is mine.

445
00:25:59,878 --> 00:26:03,078
Okay. Reach out to me, see what you think, and I'll make your.

446
00:26:03,134 --> 00:26:06,246
I'll make your little schedule. Yeah, but I do want you to have the sexual

447
00:26:06,278 --> 00:26:09,094
freedom, but then you're not really going to have a lot of sexual freedom.

448
00:26:09,142 --> 00:26:11,894
See, so that's the thing is I'm excited at the fact that this. I mean,

449
00:26:11,902 --> 00:26:14,662
it's all baby steps. It is. Because it's brand new. So,

450
00:26:14,686 --> 00:26:17,750
like, I know that you don't want little chains on you,

451
00:26:17,790 --> 00:26:21,222
but, homie, you do got the chains on you. I'm just setting it up for

452
00:26:21,246 --> 00:26:24,182
you. No, no. And I'm. I'm game for that. Yeah. Like, I know.

453
00:26:24,366 --> 00:26:27,832
I know what Adam wants. Yeah. And I

454
00:26:27,856 --> 00:26:29,700
know what you want. I know,

455
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,320
homie. Do you know what I mean? Yes.

456
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,872
What do I want? Yes. But as much as you're my

457
00:26:36,896 --> 00:26:40,104
little property, I can't let that leash. But I'm curious.

458
00:26:40,152 --> 00:26:43,080
What is it that I want? You want a friend. You want a consecutive friends

459
00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:47,020
with benefits. Like, you want one. That's. That you can. Regularity. Regularity.

460
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,552
So I know what you want. It doesn't have to be one person. It could

461
00:26:50,576 --> 00:26:53,780
be, you know, whoever I. Prefer it not be. Just one

462
00:26:53,820 --> 00:26:57,380
person. Yeah. So I know what you want, and I would love that for you,

463
00:26:57,420 --> 00:27:01,200
as I want that too. I'm just different,

464
00:27:01,900 --> 00:27:05,236
going at it like, this is a. This is. This is new.

465
00:27:05,388 --> 00:27:09,012
Now, could you be that person to have a couple of friends with benefits,

466
00:27:09,076 --> 00:27:12,596
with any kind of regularity? Because you and I are different in this.

467
00:27:12,748 --> 00:27:16,436
I feel like you've always been very closed off to other people.

468
00:27:16,588 --> 00:27:20,440
You got. Well, we had one. We had. We had a friends with benefits.

469
00:27:20,820 --> 00:27:23,800
Who in our hometown. We did. Yeah. Who?

470
00:27:24,180 --> 00:27:26,972
The couple. Oh, no,

471
00:27:27,076 --> 00:27:30,492
no, that wasn't a Friends with. We were friends with benefits, but the benefits were

472
00:27:30,516 --> 00:27:34,172
not very often. Yeah. And frankly, that couple did it primarily for

473
00:27:34,196 --> 00:27:36,972
you. They didn't do it for me. Yeah. You know what I mean? Which was

474
00:27:36,996 --> 00:27:40,172
fine. I mean, and I, and I sent you over there by yourself one day

475
00:27:40,196 --> 00:27:43,596
to play with them. Yeah. But you

476
00:27:43,668 --> 00:27:47,276
are not. You're very closed off to entertaining

477
00:27:47,308 --> 00:27:50,112
other people. Yeah, I'm. I'm way better at it now.

478
00:27:50,216 --> 00:27:53,744
Yeah. Like, but I'm better at it that I

479
00:27:53,752 --> 00:27:57,520
don't mind doing it because you don't mind. I, I like

480
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,912
you there. And you like me there too, right? Oh, yeah. But I

481
00:28:00,936 --> 00:28:04,736
also don't like you there. Like, I also like you not there. Yeah. Because it's,

482
00:28:04,768 --> 00:28:07,984
it's hot. Like, I like you there. Just. Is that, Is it a

483
00:28:07,992 --> 00:28:11,088
hot husband? Is that, is that a hot husband? That's a. I think it's called

484
00:28:11,144 --> 00:28:14,202
stag. So hot wife and stagger. Oh, that's right.

485
00:28:14,226 --> 00:28:17,402
We did that. We did that show, didn't we? Did. Okay, so you would be

486
00:28:17,426 --> 00:28:19,910
the Stag. Like, I would totally send you off.

487
00:28:21,010 --> 00:28:24,570
I like that. Now would I?

488
00:28:24,610 --> 00:28:28,030
Go ahead. I know you always say, go, go play, Go play by yourself.

489
00:28:29,090 --> 00:28:32,858
I will. I have. For me, it was a trust thing. Like, I didn't

490
00:28:32,874 --> 00:28:36,650
want you to do it with random strangers. No. But people that

491
00:28:36,690 --> 00:28:39,754
we know and are comfortable with and they're

492
00:28:39,802 --> 00:28:42,874
respectful. Yeah. I'm all for mine. Is all respect.

493
00:28:42,962 --> 00:28:46,422
Like, again, you're my husband,

494
00:28:46,486 --> 00:28:50,166
you're my world, you're my love. And it's like, show me,

495
00:28:50,238 --> 00:28:54,102
show me the respect. Sure. You know, like, I don't know how you.

496
00:28:54,206 --> 00:28:57,942
I don't know how they are in their marriage or their relationship,

497
00:28:58,006 --> 00:29:01,686
but for me, it's, yes, Adam is his own person,

498
00:29:01,838 --> 00:29:04,742
but Adam is also my person.

499
00:29:04,926 --> 00:29:08,390
Right. You know, so it's like, show me and the guys that I

500
00:29:08,430 --> 00:29:11,110
want to set up with or whatever.

501
00:29:11,770 --> 00:29:15,298
You've already talked to them. Yeah. Like, you've, you met them already.

502
00:29:15,354 --> 00:29:19,298
Yeah. And that's what I'm saying. Like, I, I, they're respectful. They're good guys.

503
00:29:19,394 --> 00:29:22,690
Yeah. I have to feel that the person that you're gonna play with

504
00:29:22,810 --> 00:29:26,130
is gonna protect you as much as I would protect.

505
00:29:26,210 --> 00:29:29,442
Right. You know what I mean? Yeah. So, like, they have to be ready at

506
00:29:29,466 --> 00:29:32,994
the drop of it to make sure that you're okay. Yeah. Over their own self.

507
00:29:33,042 --> 00:29:36,050
And I would like to play with. I mean, like, that's, those are guys.

508
00:29:36,210 --> 00:29:40,770
Girls. I could do separate play with girls. But that's

509
00:29:40,850 --> 00:29:43,906
Really a struggle for you, isn't it? That's hard. Yeah.

510
00:29:43,938 --> 00:29:47,490
Like, and in theory, it shouldn't be because every other

511
00:29:47,530 --> 00:29:50,946
woman that you see post is like, oh, I'm looking for a woman. Looking for.

512
00:29:51,018 --> 00:29:55,122
This weekend, this past weekend, I met one woman who was straight up.

513
00:29:55,306 --> 00:29:58,658
She straight up flirted with me. Like, I had my hands

514
00:29:58,674 --> 00:30:01,986
in her tits. Like, really? Yeah. Was I there?

515
00:30:02,138 --> 00:30:05,176
No. But we had just met and I was like,

516
00:30:05,248 --> 00:30:09,400
that's, that's, that's me. I like that. But I.

517
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,100
And she doesn't live here, but, oh, it is freaking

518
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,580
hard because all I ever hear is,

519
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,360
well, I'm bisectuational. Yeah.

520
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:24,232
Or after I have a few drinks. Now I

521
00:30:24,256 --> 00:30:27,976
am straight up bisexual. Like, if you put a sexy

522
00:30:28,008 --> 00:30:30,152
man and a sexy woman in front of me, I'm going to go for the

523
00:30:30,176 --> 00:30:33,944
sexy woman. Yeah. You know, when I'm done,

524
00:30:34,032 --> 00:30:37,432
then I can have the sexy man. But I mean, you're talking

525
00:30:37,496 --> 00:30:41,944
to a couple of ladies that I think you have the potential

526
00:30:42,072 --> 00:30:45,064
for having a friends with benefit situation with.

527
00:30:45,152 --> 00:30:48,744
Really? Yeah. Then you definitely need to tell me who that is. You're the

528
00:30:48,752 --> 00:30:51,912
one that told me who they are. You told me yesterday that you're talking to

529
00:30:51,936 --> 00:30:54,940
a couple of these ladies. Oh, yeah, yeah.

530
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,862
But still, that's for them. They're attractive women. I mean. Yeah,

531
00:30:58,976 --> 00:31:01,762
it's. It's time,

532
00:31:01,946 --> 00:31:05,298
you know, it's time. But like, they. Well, it's like time for them.

533
00:31:05,354 --> 00:31:09,330
Like, how do you make time, you know? Well, I mean, realistically, it's time

534
00:31:09,370 --> 00:31:13,154
for you. Yeah. I'm sure that they could make. But like,

535
00:31:13,162 --> 00:31:15,506
when I play with the girl, if I just want to play with the girl.

536
00:31:15,578 --> 00:31:18,930
Yeah. That's the hard part. Like, I know you and I have that situation where

537
00:31:18,970 --> 00:31:21,986
you're like, you. You can go play with a girl. Yeah.

538
00:31:22,098 --> 00:31:25,746
Some guys don't. So realistically, as far as I'm concerned, you can play with whoever

539
00:31:25,778 --> 00:31:29,068
you want. Yeah. And I've. I've always given you that.

540
00:31:29,234 --> 00:31:32,488
Even back since we were poly. Yes. Maybe even before that.

541
00:31:32,544 --> 00:31:35,816
I would tell you, you can play with whoever. Yeah. Because you like that.

542
00:31:35,888 --> 00:31:39,544
I do. I like the. So I have this, this thing in my head

543
00:31:39,712 --> 00:31:43,944
and I've. And I've seen it, you know, in porn, obviously, which is unrealistic

544
00:31:43,992 --> 00:31:47,352
sometimes. But, you know, it's one of those things where you see

545
00:31:47,376 --> 00:31:50,680
a caption and it says, oh. After a night

546
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,960
of drinking with my husband and his friend, we went back

547
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,662
to our place and while my husband was in the

548
00:31:57,686 --> 00:32:01,118
bathroom, I started fooling around with with the friend. And.

549
00:32:01,174 --> 00:32:03,918
And this is what he came out to. And of course they're getting it on.

550
00:32:03,974 --> 00:32:07,726
Yes. Always been a fantasy of mine. I've always wanted

551
00:32:07,758 --> 00:32:11,566
you to have that kind of mentality, which is, hey, you know,

552
00:32:11,638 --> 00:32:15,214
just go find. Yeah. I'm finding you pretty sexy. Let me come over to

553
00:32:15,222 --> 00:32:18,638
you. You know what it is? I don't. I don't

554
00:32:18,654 --> 00:32:21,822
even know how to initiate that. But that's the thing about it,

555
00:32:21,846 --> 00:32:25,710
is you're a very attractive woman. It really

556
00:32:25,750 --> 00:32:29,214
doesn't take much. And that's because you. You did stripping.

557
00:32:29,262 --> 00:32:33,246
Like, you did all sorts of stuff. My shyness. But with a guy. I know

558
00:32:33,318 --> 00:32:36,366
guys are easy. And, yeah, you know, I am. I am getting a little better

559
00:32:36,438 --> 00:32:39,646
at that. You're getting flirtier. I'm getting flirtier.

560
00:32:39,758 --> 00:32:43,134
But as far as, like, just being, like, oh, you know,

561
00:32:43,222 --> 00:32:45,950
you can just go up to somebody and start making out with them, and then

562
00:32:45,990 --> 00:32:49,182
bam, you're on your knees. You know, like, stuff like that, though.

563
00:32:49,286 --> 00:32:53,022
I've always wanted you to have more of that sluttiness in

564
00:32:53,046 --> 00:32:56,158
you. Yeah. Just to, like, I. You and I go into

565
00:32:56,214 --> 00:33:00,350
a. A party, and before you know it, we're sitting on the couch, and I

566
00:33:00,390 --> 00:33:03,902
look one way and then I look the other way, and you're over on top

567
00:33:03,926 --> 00:33:06,942
of some guy. Like, art. You know what I mean? Like. Yeah. I want you

568
00:33:06,966 --> 00:33:10,702
to be able to feel that enjoyment,

569
00:33:10,766 --> 00:33:14,142
that sexual freedom is. Is what it's all about. Like. Like,

570
00:33:14,166 --> 00:33:16,750
we're going to a party today. We're going to go to a house party today.

571
00:33:16,790 --> 00:33:20,206
We are. And we've been talking about it, and it's like, I want.

572
00:33:20,278 --> 00:33:24,090
From the moment we walk through that door, we are on

573
00:33:24,130 --> 00:33:27,242
our slut adventures. Yes. Like, I don't want you to

574
00:33:27,266 --> 00:33:30,570
worry about me and what I'm doing. Yeah. I don't want to worry about you

575
00:33:30,610 --> 00:33:33,562
and what you're doing. Just trust that we're going to be keeping track of each

576
00:33:33,586 --> 00:33:36,778
other. Yeah. And I just want you to go with the flow. If.

577
00:33:36,834 --> 00:33:40,042
If you end up blowing someone in the kitchen and I walk in on

578
00:33:40,066 --> 00:33:43,178
it, by all means, do it, you know?

579
00:33:43,314 --> 00:33:46,906
And is it gonna happen that way? I have no idea. Super respectful,

580
00:33:46,938 --> 00:33:50,420
too. So, like, even at parties, we've never

581
00:33:50,460 --> 00:33:53,572
done the separate play. Like, we've never separated from each other.

582
00:33:53,756 --> 00:33:57,236
So the idea is. The idea is hot.

583
00:33:57,308 --> 00:34:00,500
And I do. Like, so real quick, what started off

584
00:34:00,540 --> 00:34:04,244
this whole setup that I did for you was that someone

585
00:34:04,332 --> 00:34:07,860
posted it on a group that we're in, and then she was

586
00:34:07,900 --> 00:34:11,332
like, yeah, you could borrow my husband. I get to reclaim him afterwards. And I

587
00:34:11,356 --> 00:34:14,828
thought that was so hot. Because you say that to me.

588
00:34:15,004 --> 00:34:18,956
And so I was like, yes, it was like that.

589
00:34:19,028 --> 00:34:22,460
That flipped a switch in you. That flipped a switch in me.

590
00:34:22,500 --> 00:34:26,028
And I was like, oh, Adam says that about me.

591
00:34:26,164 --> 00:34:29,516
You know what? And I said it to myself. I was like, yeah,

592
00:34:29,628 --> 00:34:32,940
that was hot. You texted me immediately, and you're like, did you see that?

593
00:34:32,980 --> 00:34:36,572
That was hot. That was hot. And that just kind of changed the entire trajectory,

594
00:34:36,636 --> 00:34:40,524
because it wasn't. But maybe an hour later, you had that conversation,

595
00:34:40,572 --> 00:34:43,784
and I friend. And you set that up. Yeah. And so it

596
00:34:43,792 --> 00:34:47,260
was like, ooh, this is gonna be hot. Yeah. Because afterwards

597
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,224
you get to. I get to see the video or the pictures, and you get

598
00:34:51,232 --> 00:34:54,984
to tell me about it. Yeah. And it's hot. It's hot.

599
00:34:55,072 --> 00:34:58,660
Yeah, it is. Yeah. I totally understand. But again,

600
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,288
I still get. If it's you setting it up, it's a different attitude.

601
00:35:03,464 --> 00:35:06,696
It's. It's a different. I don't know. I don't know.

602
00:35:06,848 --> 00:35:10,824
Property, I guess. Property. Yeah. But, I mean, I still belong

603
00:35:10,872 --> 00:35:14,390
to you one way or another. I don't know. So it's the respect

604
00:35:14,510 --> 00:35:17,830
more so than anything. That's what turns you on, is that.

605
00:35:17,870 --> 00:35:21,142
This person's asking you for. Yeah. I mean,

606
00:35:21,166 --> 00:35:23,558
I'm the one who put you out there. I've totally pimped you out. But,

607
00:35:23,694 --> 00:35:26,130
yeah. Yeah, it was. It was hot.

608
00:35:27,150 --> 00:35:30,246
But see, I can't do that with you. No, I can't.

609
00:35:30,278 --> 00:35:33,878
I, like, I even. I even re. You know, in a comment,

610
00:35:33,934 --> 00:35:37,350
and you saw. I put a comment out there that was like,

611
00:35:37,390 --> 00:35:40,542
hey, you see, sweetheart, you can. You can ask him very easily. And you were

612
00:35:40,566 --> 00:35:43,422
like, but I'm shy. Yeah. And I'm like, really, dude? But I mean,

613
00:35:43,446 --> 00:35:47,102
I could. So guys are easy. Guys are easy. It's. It's the girls.

614
00:35:47,166 --> 00:35:50,670
The girls are a little hard. Yeah. Yeah. That's interesting.

615
00:35:50,750 --> 00:35:54,254
Yeah. But no, I mean, separate play is.

616
00:35:54,342 --> 00:35:57,006
We are going to see if we like it. We are going to see if.

617
00:35:57,078 --> 00:36:00,286
If. How it goes. I'm. I'm pretty hopeful

618
00:36:00,398 --> 00:36:03,390
that it's going to be fun. It's going to be hot. I think it will.

619
00:36:03,430 --> 00:36:06,408
I think it will. Again, don't know until you try it.

620
00:36:06,464 --> 00:36:09,720
Yeah. You know, and we talk about it, and we're very

621
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,900
open with each other, and we have a lot of conversations

622
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,704
about when we're going to play and who we're playing with and,

623
00:36:17,872 --> 00:36:21,980
you know, if the person is respectful.

624
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,056
Damn, that goes a long way with Me?

625
00:36:26,128 --> 00:36:30,248
Yeah. With me. I'm. Because I'm very territorial and.

626
00:36:30,304 --> 00:36:33,770
And that person. So I guess my

627
00:36:33,810 --> 00:36:36,890
big takeaway here is if anybody is interested in playing

628
00:36:36,930 --> 00:36:40,250
with me, I should refer them to you. Yes.

629
00:36:40,410 --> 00:36:43,386
Yeah. And then let me set it up for you. Set it up? Yeah.

630
00:36:43,418 --> 00:36:46,858
Because I. You. We haven't

631
00:36:46,874 --> 00:36:50,282
met anybody like this, but. Bad judge of character. And I want

632
00:36:50,306 --> 00:36:52,874
to make sure that. I, like, I am totally a bad. Do you know what

633
00:36:52,882 --> 00:36:56,458
I mean? Like, have we met them? No. Okay, well, let's meet them. Yeah.

634
00:36:56,554 --> 00:36:59,914
I. I am not. I don't think I'll ever go back on that.

635
00:37:00,002 --> 00:37:03,878
I want to meet the person that my husband is going to sleeping

636
00:37:03,894 --> 00:37:07,302
with. Right. Well. And so we learned that because there was a girl who

637
00:37:07,326 --> 00:37:10,950
had reached out to me. Yeah. A while back. Yeah. And she

638
00:37:10,990 --> 00:37:14,278
wanted me to be one of the members of her gang.

639
00:37:14,374 --> 00:37:17,030
Do you remember? You didn't like that? I had said, well, she needs to reach

640
00:37:17,070 --> 00:37:20,774
out to me. No, I didn't. I. It made me feel very like.

641
00:37:20,942 --> 00:37:23,670
Like a kid. I don't like to feel like a kid,

642
00:37:23,830 --> 00:37:27,494
but I, too, am kind of starting to grow.

643
00:37:27,582 --> 00:37:30,822
Yes. And I'm like, okay, if this is her kink, this is

644
00:37:30,846 --> 00:37:34,522
what she likes. I have no problem telling people, hey, you're interested in me,

645
00:37:34,546 --> 00:37:37,482
do me a favor. Message my wife, because this is a part of the thing

646
00:37:37,506 --> 00:37:41,082
that turns her on. If you could just message her and say, hey, this is

647
00:37:41,106 --> 00:37:45,002
something I'm interested in. Can. Can we do this? Yeah. So I didn't

648
00:37:45,066 --> 00:37:48,714
know that you were interested in that. And how did I know I would have

649
00:37:48,722 --> 00:37:51,642
been sending. I didn't know. Right. Yeah, I didn't know.

650
00:37:51,746 --> 00:37:53,990
And so. Yeah, I like it. Now,

651
00:37:54,610 --> 00:37:58,420
you and I have a rule that we can veto anybody,

652
00:37:58,610 --> 00:38:02,220
but there's yet to have anybody where it's like, no,

653
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,872
no. Yeah. Which is kind of cool. Yeah. Well, we try to

654
00:38:05,896 --> 00:38:09,520
keep an open mind, but also we try to keep really good

655
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,056
company. So the people that we hang out with

656
00:38:13,208 --> 00:38:17,180
and the people that we know are very genuine people.

657
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,640
And I think. I like to think that.

658
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,320
That the people that. That we're always around. There's. There's already trust and

659
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,340
comfort established right before we even play.

660
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,968
Yes. And so usually when the thought

661
00:38:31,024 --> 00:38:34,296
of play comes up, it's kind of like, oh, okay.

662
00:38:34,328 --> 00:38:37,912
Yeah, sure, we can do that. Yeah. You know? Yeah. I mean,

663
00:38:38,096 --> 00:38:42,440
I don't know now. Would you ever let me play with a couple who

664
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,232
doesn't accept men? They just wanted a girl,

665
00:38:46,416 --> 00:38:49,720
you know? I would if I felt comfortable with them. I Would have.

666
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,624
We would have to go out to dinner and if they were respectful

667
00:38:53,672 --> 00:38:56,698
to me. Yeah, absolutely. So you see on that,

668
00:38:56,754 --> 00:39:00,154
I feel like I would tell them, you really need to have a conversation

669
00:39:00,202 --> 00:39:03,226
with my husband because he needs to get the feel for you. Well, yeah,

670
00:39:03,258 --> 00:39:06,906
because I'll be having fomo. Because if I'll be like, man, I want to sleep

671
00:39:06,938 --> 00:39:09,962
with the wife, like, you know, but it's something that I can

672
00:39:09,986 --> 00:39:13,658
get over. Yeah. That's kind of. It's not a big deal if

673
00:39:13,714 --> 00:39:16,394
they're. I, you know, I would rather not.

674
00:39:16,482 --> 00:39:20,170
Why? Because. But see, this is a part of the. You're very

675
00:39:20,210 --> 00:39:23,866
close minded. I don't understand why. Only because I know that you would. I mean,

676
00:39:23,938 --> 00:39:27,790
you had already told me. No. Like, no, if they don't. But if I

677
00:39:27,830 --> 00:39:30,926
say it's okay. Yeah. I have to let it sit with me for a bit.

678
00:39:31,078 --> 00:39:34,590
Only because I'm thinking about you. Yeah. But if I'm telling you, don't think about

679
00:39:34,630 --> 00:39:37,358
me. Go have fun. I know, man. I don't know.

680
00:39:37,494 --> 00:39:41,742
Dude, you are too much. Because I remember at

681
00:39:41,766 --> 00:39:45,022
your birthday party last year. Uhhuh. I remember

682
00:39:45,086 --> 00:39:48,958
us being there and your friend was there and you and her

683
00:39:49,014 --> 00:39:52,238
have had a history. Y'all been friend a long time. Flirting a long time.

684
00:39:52,294 --> 00:39:55,632
Y'all were flirting a long time. And she was somebody that you

685
00:39:55,736 --> 00:39:58,432
had always wanted to play with. And the two of y'all kept drinking more and

686
00:39:58,456 --> 00:40:02,336
more. Oh, she was drinking coffee. Coffee. That's right. That's right. You were just.

687
00:40:02,408 --> 00:40:05,648
You. You were feeling her. And the two of y'all kept talking and y'all

688
00:40:05,664 --> 00:40:08,368
were flirting with each other and she was touching you and stuff like that.

689
00:40:08,504 --> 00:40:11,792
And I remember you wanted to make out with

690
00:40:11,816 --> 00:40:15,340
her. Yes. And you didn't. No.

691
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,976
And you didn't because of me. Yeah. And I didn't quite

692
00:40:19,008 --> 00:40:22,708
understand that. I was just like, no, I'm not going to leave you here because

693
00:40:22,844 --> 00:40:26,356
I know you want in on the fun. I do. But I'm. I'm.

694
00:40:26,468 --> 00:40:29,940
Yeah. Things have changed. I know things have changed. Things have changed now.

695
00:40:29,980 --> 00:40:33,012
Yeah. Yeah. So that's. That was my. That was my thing. I would have been

696
00:40:33,036 --> 00:40:36,292
fine. Well, you know, like, you still have the. The whole thing that you.

697
00:40:36,316 --> 00:40:40,132
Don't you rather play by yourself? Because I'm in the room. But I've. I've kind

698
00:40:40,156 --> 00:40:43,364
of proven a little bit that you can play. Yeah. But now that's not the

699
00:40:43,372 --> 00:40:46,878
reason why I want to play separately anymore. The what part?

700
00:40:46,934 --> 00:40:50,590
The. I. I don't want to play separately anymore because Of. Of your

701
00:40:50,630 --> 00:40:54,638
reactions. Yeah. Like that. That. That's already gone. Yeah. We move past

702
00:40:54,694 --> 00:40:57,950
that. But I'm saying, you know how that really bothered you. Yeah. And I think

703
00:40:57,990 --> 00:41:01,150
if I make out with the girl, for some reason, I go back to,

704
00:41:01,190 --> 00:41:04,334
like, oh, he really wants to be in it. On this. Fun.

705
00:41:04,422 --> 00:41:07,886
No. So What? I've. So 20, 25 is the year.

706
00:41:07,958 --> 00:41:11,454
Okay. Adam's confidence. Okay. Okay. And I'm not gonna lie.

707
00:41:11,502 --> 00:41:14,758
I'm feeling confident. I'm feeling pretty good about myself. So. Like,

708
00:41:14,814 --> 00:41:17,526
the party that we're going to tonight, for example. Yeah.

709
00:41:17,718 --> 00:41:21,574
I am totally good with you floating around like a. Like a bee

710
00:41:21,622 --> 00:41:24,886
to different flowers. Like, you can go. And I don't want you to worry

711
00:41:24,918 --> 00:41:28,790
about me at all. Right. Because what I realize now

712
00:41:28,830 --> 00:41:32,454
is you can go and go have your fun and go do whatever.

713
00:41:32,582 --> 00:41:36,150
I can hold my own. Yeah. And you

714
00:41:36,190 --> 00:41:39,990
always could. I didn't think so before. It's a confidence

715
00:41:40,070 --> 00:41:42,742
thing. So I just. If somebody, like, say,

716
00:41:42,926 --> 00:41:46,294
at your party last year, you know, you and.

717
00:41:46,382 --> 00:41:49,702
And her were flirting and all that stuff. Well, I was just sitting in a

718
00:41:49,726 --> 00:41:52,518
chair, and I wasn't really talking to people. No. You know what I mean?

719
00:41:52,574 --> 00:41:56,134
Yes. And there were women. There were attractive women that were talking

720
00:41:56,182 --> 00:41:59,670
to me, but in my head, they were just talking to me just to kill

721
00:41:59,710 --> 00:42:01,894
some time. They weren't talking to me because they were interested in me. You know

722
00:42:01,902 --> 00:42:05,894
what I mean? Yeah. So now it's a different situation. Because what I'm realizing

723
00:42:05,942 --> 00:42:09,830
is there are some women that are interested in me, and I just haven't

724
00:42:09,910 --> 00:42:13,232
really been paying attention to social cues.

725
00:42:13,406 --> 00:42:16,844
Right. I don't either. Yeah. So if there's women attracted to

726
00:42:16,852 --> 00:42:20,284
me. Well, I. I've noticed when it comes to women, there's a lot

727
00:42:20,292 --> 00:42:23,548
of women that don't flirt. Yeah. Why?

728
00:42:23,604 --> 00:42:26,652
And they'll end up shooting me a message. They'll be like, oh, your wife's so

729
00:42:26,676 --> 00:42:30,524
hot. And I. I really. Yeah. Don't be silly, dude. Flirt with her.

730
00:42:30,612 --> 00:42:34,348
She's there. Yeah. But then at the same time, some have flirted

731
00:42:34,364 --> 00:42:37,948
with you, and they're like, she doesn't. She's not reciprocating. I mean,

732
00:42:38,004 --> 00:42:40,972
better not understanding that they're flirting. Yeah. Like, say I'm like,

733
00:42:40,996 --> 00:42:44,374
well, we have a friend that I'm like, I'm flirting with you. And they totally.

734
00:42:44,422 --> 00:42:46,570
I have to tell them. Yeah, that's me flirting.

735
00:42:48,750 --> 00:42:52,534
But, yeah, no, it's fun, I guess. We're gonna see.

736
00:42:52,622 --> 00:42:56,070
We're gonna see. We are gonna see if we like it or not. I.

737
00:42:56,110 --> 00:42:59,734
You Know, I really hope that you like it because to me, it's hot.

738
00:42:59,822 --> 00:43:03,062
Yeah. You know, to me it's, it's a fantasy. Yeah.

739
00:43:03,206 --> 00:43:06,998
It's a slow journey for me and it always

740
00:43:07,054 --> 00:43:10,198
has been. It always has been. I've always been a few steps ahead of you.

741
00:43:10,254 --> 00:43:13,522
Yeah. But so I think we were talking about it last

742
00:43:13,546 --> 00:43:17,282
night. One of my, one of my fantasies is that somebody from the

743
00:43:17,306 --> 00:43:20,530
lifestyle moves in next door. Yeah. You know what I mean?

744
00:43:20,570 --> 00:43:23,826
Yes, we were talking about that. We were talking about that last night. Somebody moves

745
00:43:23,858 --> 00:43:26,962
in next door and we find out that they're part of

746
00:43:26,986 --> 00:43:30,674
the community. We become friends and there's that four way connection

747
00:43:30,722 --> 00:43:33,986
that's established. Yeah. And it's one of those things where it's

748
00:43:34,018 --> 00:43:37,852
like, I look at you one night and I say, hey, I was talking to

749
00:43:38,036 --> 00:43:41,132
Jim next door. Okay. And we've,

750
00:43:41,276 --> 00:43:44,796
we've made this decision and at 8:00 tonight,

751
00:43:44,988 --> 00:43:48,332
you're gonna put on some lingerie, go over there and put your robe on

752
00:43:48,356 --> 00:43:51,004
and you're gonna go over there. His door is going to be unlocked. Yeah.

753
00:43:51,052 --> 00:43:54,524
And when you go over there, you're gonna pass his wife up who's going to

754
00:43:54,532 --> 00:43:58,204
be coming over here. Yeah. And you guys, we're doing a

755
00:43:58,212 --> 00:44:01,324
wife swap tonight. That's hot. That is hot. That is

756
00:44:01,332 --> 00:44:04,808
so hot. Absolutely. Yeah. And so that is a

757
00:44:04,864 --> 00:44:08,232
great fantasy. Yeah. That I don't know

758
00:44:08,256 --> 00:44:11,672
if it's necessarily reality. And I, and it's funny because I told you last night,

759
00:44:11,696 --> 00:44:14,872
I was like, that's a Cinemax movie. Yeah. I, I really think. Well,

760
00:44:14,896 --> 00:44:18,696
like our friends were saying. Yeah. They have somebody who's like two houses

761
00:44:18,728 --> 00:44:22,088
down or two blocks away or something. I'm like, that's, that's, that's awesome.

762
00:44:22,184 --> 00:44:25,640
Yeah. I mean, we have friends in the, in this area. In this area.

763
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,064
But not walking. I mean, I guess I could walk to

764
00:44:29,072 --> 00:44:31,860
them, but I'm not gonna smell very good by the time I get there.

765
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,000
That's not good. You know? No. So, you know,

766
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,424
ideally, yeah, it'd be great if we lived across the street or if we lived,

767
00:44:38,472 --> 00:44:42,376
you know, next door to somebody. That would be ideal. Yeah. But in

768
00:44:42,448 --> 00:44:45,560
that situation, would it still be the

769
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,288
same thing where it's like, okay, well, you can only play with them once every

770
00:44:49,424 --> 00:44:52,920
few weeks or something. Like, you can't have any regularity. I don't know,

771
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,888
Adam, but that's what I'm saying. Like, oh, me and my hypothetical.

772
00:44:56,984 --> 00:44:59,944
I don't know. I mean, hypothetically.

773
00:45:00,072 --> 00:45:03,416
Yeah, I can answer you. No, but I'd have to sit on it.

774
00:45:03,488 --> 00:45:05,860
Sure. You know, like, sit on it. We.

775
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,072
I have a. I have a process, and I have to. And I

776
00:45:10,096 --> 00:45:13,380
talk to you through my processes until.

777
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,624
Not until I see your part. Yeah. But until I see the logic

778
00:45:17,672 --> 00:45:21,320
in it. I think the. The hard part about your processes, and this is something

779
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,776
that I figured out last night, is that a large

780
00:45:24,848 --> 00:45:28,590
part of you processing is. You're processing

781
00:45:28,750 --> 00:45:32,670
the fact that I won't get taken away from this

782
00:45:32,710 --> 00:45:36,382
relationship. Yeah. You still have it in your head that I'm gonna

783
00:45:36,446 --> 00:45:39,886
leave you or somebody's gonna come and take me away from you.

784
00:45:39,958 --> 00:45:43,150
Not. Not take away. I think we talked about it last night,

785
00:45:43,190 --> 00:45:47,770
and I was like, I don't want it to end up to be a.

786
00:45:48,390 --> 00:45:51,822
A fall in love type of situation. I need to be

787
00:45:51,846 --> 00:45:55,344
with that person. So. Not. You're never leaving

788
00:45:55,392 --> 00:45:58,416
me. You're afraid that I'm gonna fall in love with someone. Yeah.

789
00:45:58,448 --> 00:46:02,160
And it's like. And. And. And my response to that was, who cares

790
00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:05,744
if I fall in love with somebody? Like, what's the big deal? I. Yeah.

791
00:46:05,872 --> 00:46:09,680
Because honestly, if I fell in love with somebody,

792
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,800
I would not tell you. I would not tell you. I would

793
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,032
not tell anybody. Yeah. I would keep that shit to myself

794
00:46:16,176 --> 00:46:19,632
because, you know, it's. It's my own internal feelings. And frankly, I don't have to

795
00:46:19,656 --> 00:46:22,894
tell anybody because I'm not gonna act on it. Right. You know

796
00:46:22,902 --> 00:46:25,742
what I mean? Like, what's the point of me? First of all, I love all

797
00:46:25,766 --> 00:46:28,446
my friends. I tell all my friends. Yeah. I love different,

798
00:46:28,598 --> 00:46:32,190
but like a romantic. I'm fallen in love with

799
00:46:32,230 --> 00:46:35,822
you. Yeah. If I felt like that for

800
00:46:36,006 --> 00:46:39,182
anybody that I connect with, I wouldn't say anything.

801
00:46:39,326 --> 00:46:42,462
And I damn sure wouldn't tell you because,

802
00:46:42,646 --> 00:46:46,062
A, I don't like your reactions. B, I don't want to be dealing with this

803
00:46:46,086 --> 00:46:48,922
for the next month. And then you probably wouldn't let me be friends with that

804
00:46:48,946 --> 00:46:52,346
person anymore. You know what I mean? Like. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.

805
00:46:52,378 --> 00:46:56,090
I would never say that to you. Yeah. And I definitely wouldn't act on

806
00:46:56,130 --> 00:47:00,186
it. Good. You know what? What gets me is, you know, We've been together 14

807
00:47:00,258 --> 00:47:03,674
years. Yeah. We have five kids together.

808
00:47:03,762 --> 00:47:07,190
We do two dogs, a house,

809
00:47:07,570 --> 00:47:10,922
a side business. We have a whole empire that

810
00:47:10,946 --> 00:47:14,186
we have established thus far and we're still building. Oh,

811
00:47:14,218 --> 00:47:17,534
yeah. Why on earth would I let

812
00:47:17,622 --> 00:47:21,022
somebody come in and. And break that up? And I

813
00:47:21,046 --> 00:47:24,062
mean, I. You know, it's my. That's why I said it's my process,

814
00:47:24,166 --> 00:47:28,110
because I know that. I know nobody could break

815
00:47:28,150 --> 00:47:31,422
it, you know? I do. It's. I don't know

816
00:47:31,446 --> 00:47:35,050
what it is. I don't know what it is. It's not like

817
00:47:35,750 --> 00:47:39,422
I don't think anybody's going to take you away. It's not that. It's not the

818
00:47:39,446 --> 00:47:43,214
takeaway, but it's still coming up, though. Like, it's not

819
00:47:43,222 --> 00:47:47,482
the takeaway, though. I told you last night. It's not the takeaway. It' the.

820
00:47:47,666 --> 00:47:50,922
I don't know how to react to the feelings. And I think it

821
00:47:50,946 --> 00:47:54,090
all goes back to. We were talking to

822
00:47:54,130 --> 00:47:57,658
Paulie. Yeah. Traumatic experiences.

823
00:47:57,754 --> 00:48:02,074
And so for me, I have. I have. Yet since Paulie,

824
00:48:02,122 --> 00:48:05,450
we have never done this. Right. So this is. That's why I'm saying, like,

825
00:48:05,490 --> 00:48:09,226
these are processes. Like, I don't know. I don't. I don't know. It's like.

826
00:48:09,298 --> 00:48:12,362
It's like if you almost drown when you go swimming, right? And then you

827
00:48:12,386 --> 00:48:15,580
got to take baby steps to get back in the water. It's like,

828
00:48:15,700 --> 00:48:19,196
I'm there. But let me,

829
00:48:19,268 --> 00:48:22,492
Let me see. Let me. Let me get a feeling of it.

830
00:48:22,596 --> 00:48:25,852
I don't know. I don't know how I'm going to react and if

831
00:48:25,876 --> 00:48:29,164
I like it and I don't know how to. What the feelings are going to

832
00:48:29,172 --> 00:48:32,732
be so that we could discuss it. Right. So until it happens,

833
00:48:32,876 --> 00:48:36,524
I do not know what's going to happen.

834
00:48:36,612 --> 00:48:40,124
Yeah. But I do have processes. And I tell you

835
00:48:40,132 --> 00:48:43,448
about them and I'm like, look, this is how I feel. This.

836
00:48:43,504 --> 00:48:46,600
I tell you, best friend ears. This is how I feel. I did not like

837
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:50,200
this, but I want to know why I didn't like it. Like, let's talk about

838
00:48:50,240 --> 00:48:53,300
it. Like, what is it? Am I not gonna ever like it?

839
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:58,056
And, you know, that's the thing about it is I. I really was

840
00:48:58,128 --> 00:49:01,960
very positive and excited when

841
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,176
you came to me yesterday and you were like,

842
00:49:05,328 --> 00:49:08,568
this is hot. Like, yeah, I just set this up for you and

843
00:49:08,624 --> 00:49:12,682
I really liked it. I really like it. And you

844
00:49:12,706 --> 00:49:16,458
still got me very excited. You still have a little bit of

845
00:49:16,514 --> 00:49:19,610
like, back office, you know, I'm a little

846
00:49:19,650 --> 00:49:22,442
scared because I'm like, I'm a little scared. Hey, did she reach out to you?

847
00:49:22,466 --> 00:49:25,978
And you're like, yeah, yeah. And I was like, okay, so details.

848
00:49:25,994 --> 00:49:29,530
And you're like, no, not yet. And I was like, that's. That's the atom.

849
00:49:29,610 --> 00:49:33,210
I don't like because he does not share. Well, so that Adam

850
00:49:33,290 --> 00:49:36,570
comes out. Mr. Adam a certain way. Mr. Adam needs

851
00:49:36,610 --> 00:49:39,982
to over share. And I will overshare as soon as

852
00:49:40,006 --> 00:49:42,814
I Start feeling comfortable. But, Mrs.

853
00:49:42,862 --> 00:49:46,014
Alvarez, you got to stop looking at me like you want to kill me.

854
00:49:46,102 --> 00:49:49,454
That's a problem. You know what I mean? So your reactions.

855
00:49:49,582 --> 00:49:52,350
Yeah. Are very, very. And difficult.

856
00:49:52,430 --> 00:49:56,062
Sometimes you get passionate, and I get killer eyes. You get

857
00:49:56,086 --> 00:49:59,614
killer eyes, and you really kind of. You straighten

858
00:49:59,662 --> 00:50:03,406
up. Yeah. You get very tight changes.

859
00:50:03,598 --> 00:50:06,750
Because I'm processing it, and I have no other way to do it other

860
00:50:06,790 --> 00:50:10,422
than step out of the conversation we're having and go

861
00:50:10,446 --> 00:50:13,686
into my little bubble. Yeah. And process it there.

862
00:50:13,758 --> 00:50:16,678
Right. Because I have to process it and have to process it super, super,

863
00:50:16,734 --> 00:50:20,086
super fast because we're still in front of other people. Right.

864
00:50:20,238 --> 00:50:23,958
So. So you. So you can't just sit back and go,

865
00:50:24,094 --> 00:50:27,158
I'm gonna revisit this later. No, think about it.

866
00:50:27,214 --> 00:50:30,294
I can sometimes. Not all the time.

867
00:50:30,382 --> 00:50:34,010
Okay. So I can sometimes, if I have a lot of really good clarity,

868
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,984
I can. I can say, oh, I'll deal with that later.

869
00:50:38,152 --> 00:50:41,312
And I don't know yet how to. How to deal

870
00:50:41,336 --> 00:50:44,736
with my initial reaction. And you noticed

871
00:50:44,768 --> 00:50:48,368
that I was processing something last night, and you were so freaking sweet

872
00:50:48,384 --> 00:50:51,840
about it, and I didn't want it to

873
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,072
anger me because it was going to go one or two ways. Right.

874
00:50:55,256 --> 00:50:58,000
Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, I. I was like, where's it gonna go?

875
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,164
Where's it gonna go? And so I knew where I was pushing it was going

876
00:51:01,172 --> 00:51:04,716
to be a good way, and I wasn't on my meds,

877
00:51:04,748 --> 00:51:08,172
and so I was like, okay, wait, I need to talk to you. But you're.

878
00:51:08,236 --> 00:51:11,612
You're very. You were very calm, and you were very talkative

879
00:51:11,676 --> 00:51:14,588
to me, and you're very understanding to me. And I was like, yeah, I don't

880
00:51:14,604 --> 00:51:17,836
know how to react to that. I know. I don't like it. So sometimes it's

881
00:51:17,868 --> 00:51:20,892
hard not to get defensive. Oh, yeah. When you react

882
00:51:20,956 --> 00:51:24,412
a certain way, sometimes your reactions will. Will pull a

883
00:51:24,436 --> 00:51:27,772
trigger. You trigger. They will trigger me. And I'll be like, I want to get

884
00:51:27,796 --> 00:51:31,960
defensive. And sometimes I really have to work on not getting defensive

885
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,528
and be like, okay. And so I'll listen to everything that you have to say,

886
00:51:35,664 --> 00:51:39,080
but I can't hold back either. So then I'm like, dude,

887
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,344
like, I understand that you feel this way, but at the same time, you need

888
00:51:42,352 --> 00:51:45,640
to understand that this is where I'm coming from, and I don't like this.

889
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,224
Yeah. And, you know, we've been together 14 years. You know, I'm not going

890
00:51:49,232 --> 00:51:52,472
to leave you. Like. Like, we talked about it. We talked about

891
00:51:52,496 --> 00:51:56,104
it, and I was like, oh, yeah. No, I understand that. No, I see that.

892
00:51:56,192 --> 00:51:59,320
I see that. Yeah. Okay. And I. That's the good thing about you,

893
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,632
is that we can talk. And you may take a little bit. You may

894
00:52:02,656 --> 00:52:06,488
even take a day. Yeah. But you're gonna really work

895
00:52:06,544 --> 00:52:10,136
that. And you know, you know our boundaries. I don't

896
00:52:10,168 --> 00:52:13,128
like. You share everything with me. Yeah.

897
00:52:13,224 --> 00:52:16,420
You know, there's no secrets. There's no none of this.

898
00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:20,392
And I guess for me, that. That has to be there.

899
00:52:20,416 --> 00:52:23,796
That has to be put in place. Like a slip

900
00:52:23,828 --> 00:52:27,236
here, a slip there, I could understand, but a consistent slip, slip, slip,

901
00:52:27,268 --> 00:52:30,740
slip, slip. No. No. Well, it changes everything. Also,

902
00:52:30,780 --> 00:52:34,564
a part of. Of what affects how I share

903
00:52:34,652 --> 00:52:37,604
or overshare. Yeah. Is as of lately,

904
00:52:37,652 --> 00:52:41,412
you've been going through some hard times. Oh, yeah. You have to catch me.

905
00:52:41,516 --> 00:52:44,836
The past couple of weeks, you have been down in the dumps.

906
00:52:44,868 --> 00:52:48,876
You've been feeling blue. Yeah. You've been feeling very insecure about yourself.

907
00:52:49,028 --> 00:52:53,116
Yeah. You know, you. You've. So you have to tread lightly. I. I really

908
00:52:53,188 --> 00:52:56,364
don't feel comfortable coming out and going, hey,

909
00:52:56,412 --> 00:53:00,076
so and so texted me. Yeah. And we're talking about this because

910
00:53:00,228 --> 00:53:03,660
I can feel your eyes on me sometimes. And then I look at you and

911
00:53:03,700 --> 00:53:07,004
I'm like, oh, she's. She's giving me that look. Yeah. You know what

912
00:53:07,012 --> 00:53:10,876
I mean? It's. Your reactions are everything. And it's not even

913
00:53:11,028 --> 00:53:14,492
so much bad reactions as it is. I just don't want

914
00:53:14,516 --> 00:53:17,612
to make you feel bad. Yes. And I don't want to be the person to

915
00:53:17,636 --> 00:53:21,578
make you feel bad. Yeah. So when I find out that I

916
00:53:21,634 --> 00:53:25,098
did something to make you feel bad, it makes me feel bad.

917
00:53:25,154 --> 00:53:29,130
Yeah. And you don't know. No, I don't. And so. Because it's not

918
00:53:29,170 --> 00:53:32,602
malicious. We know now. Yeah. Like, I'm not doing anything to make you

919
00:53:32,626 --> 00:53:35,770
feel bad. Like, not on purpose. Yeah. But then I find out.

920
00:53:35,810 --> 00:53:39,258
Oh, yeah. My actions brought you to this place.

921
00:53:39,314 --> 00:53:42,842
Yeah. And then I'm like, damn, man. Yeah. I should have. I should have been

922
00:53:42,866 --> 00:53:46,176
in tune to that, you know? But again. Right. You didn't know.

923
00:53:46,248 --> 00:53:49,856
Right. Had you known, you would never have. The reactions

924
00:53:49,888 --> 00:53:53,712
would have been totally different. Right. Right. But you will. You did notice.

925
00:53:53,776 --> 00:53:57,024
You noticed something. And you were very extra

926
00:53:57,072 --> 00:54:00,608
loving after that. Yes. So. But you know what's funny

927
00:54:00,624 --> 00:54:04,560
is you've always told me you were like, after. After every time that

928
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:08,864
you and I have played with others. Yes. You say that. I'm always extra

929
00:54:08,912 --> 00:54:12,112
loving to you. Yeah. And I. I connect with you more and that sort of

930
00:54:12,136 --> 00:54:15,804
thing. I never realized I did that. Yeah. It was just natural to

931
00:54:15,812 --> 00:54:19,196
me. Yeah. If I'm with another woman or say it's a weekend

932
00:54:19,228 --> 00:54:24,156
of orgy or something. Whatever. Yeah. And we've been playing our.

933
00:54:24,308 --> 00:54:27,916
My immediate is to have downtime with you.

934
00:54:27,988 --> 00:54:31,324
You're my best friend. We're going to talk about everything. We're going to watch movies,

935
00:54:31,372 --> 00:54:34,716
we're going to relax, cuddle. That's always been my process.

936
00:54:34,788 --> 00:54:38,252
Yeah. And I've never really thought about it outside of when you told

937
00:54:38,276 --> 00:54:41,192
me. Yeah. I love it when you do that. And I was like, I do

938
00:54:41,216 --> 00:54:44,520
that. Yeah, you do. You do. But, you know,

939
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,752
so you are in tune. Like, give yourself some props to that. Like, you're really.

940
00:54:47,856 --> 00:54:51,608
You're in tune into my feelings and how I'm. How I'm reacting.

941
00:54:51,704 --> 00:54:54,580
So. Yeah, we're gonna see. I,

942
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,260
again, like the setup. I like.

943
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,120
I like the. The. The idea of

944
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:05,498
you playing separately. Yeah. Like, I think that's

945
00:55:05,514 --> 00:55:08,230
gonna. I think that's gonna go really well,

946
00:55:08,850 --> 00:55:12,282
especially with the way the transaction went down.

947
00:55:12,466 --> 00:55:15,962
Yeah. Yeah. I really, really like that.

948
00:55:16,146 --> 00:55:19,594
Yeah. Well, I mean, that's definitely something. It is hot. That's definitely something to

949
00:55:19,602 --> 00:55:22,762
keep in mind. I don't mind you setting stuff up for me. Like,

950
00:55:22,866 --> 00:55:25,914
for me, like I said, logistics of it all. Yeah.

951
00:55:25,962 --> 00:55:28,266
If you tell me, oh, yeah, go ahead and put something in the calendar.

952
00:55:28,298 --> 00:55:31,790
I'm like, yeah, I don't. I don't. Like,

953
00:55:31,830 --> 00:55:34,894
they can reach out to you for, like, a time, whatever. Yeah.

954
00:55:34,942 --> 00:55:38,062
But the whole. You cool with it? Yeah, like,

955
00:55:38,086 --> 00:55:42,814
the whole talk about it. Yeah. And what's funny is now I.

956
00:55:42,902 --> 00:55:46,494
I don't feel like I've ever had any women that were interested

957
00:55:46,542 --> 00:55:49,998
in playing with me solo previous to

958
00:55:50,134 --> 00:55:53,422
recently, and it seems like now I'm starting to

959
00:55:53,446 --> 00:55:56,862
run into more women who are more interested in

960
00:55:56,886 --> 00:56:00,178
that idea. They're. They're interested in me. Yeah. And I'm like,

961
00:56:00,234 --> 00:56:03,970
what is going on? What is happening right now that

962
00:56:04,010 --> 00:56:07,730
all of a sudden the interest is in me? Yeah. I don't know. Maybe.

963
00:56:07,810 --> 00:56:11,394
Maybe it's the way I trim my beard. Maybe somebody told me

964
00:56:11,402 --> 00:56:14,482
I had Riz. I got Riz. Yeah, I saw

965
00:56:14,506 --> 00:56:16,834
that on a comment. I was laughing. I was like,

966
00:56:16,922 --> 00:56:20,834
yeah. I said, adam likes to really get the daggers

967
00:56:20,882 --> 00:56:24,322
is what he likes. I got some Riz. Yeah, that's. The kids say,

968
00:56:24,346 --> 00:56:27,774
I got Riz. You got rid of that. I'm like, thanks, Gol. I don't

969
00:56:27,782 --> 00:56:31,262
know what that means, but thank you, but. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, so this

970
00:56:31,286 --> 00:56:34,958
is definitely a different experience. For us. And. And it's something that we've

971
00:56:34,974 --> 00:56:37,998
talked about for a while, which is what we did with the lifestyle period.

972
00:56:38,054 --> 00:56:41,374
When we first started talking about the lifestyle, we talked about it, and things for

973
00:56:41,382 --> 00:56:44,958
us change. Like. Yeah, they change on a daily.

974
00:56:45,054 --> 00:56:48,414
At the beginning of the shows, we were saying, nope,

975
00:56:48,462 --> 00:56:51,982
no separate play. And now we're here. Right, Right. Did anything,

976
00:56:52,046 --> 00:56:55,582
like, traumatic change in us? No.

977
00:56:55,766 --> 00:56:58,974
Well, you know, realistically, it's all you. Yeah. We're just growing.

978
00:56:59,022 --> 00:57:02,190
And it is me. And you're. You're growing in.

979
00:57:02,230 --> 00:57:06,318
In this lifestyle and in this journey. And, like, you are 100

980
00:57:06,454 --> 00:57:09,774
whatever I say. And I finally made the joke

981
00:57:09,822 --> 00:57:13,422
of, well, you're gonna have to let me process this. I'm letting you sleep with

982
00:57:13,446 --> 00:57:16,702
other women. Yeah. Like, I never use that. And I thought

983
00:57:16,726 --> 00:57:19,824
that was so funny because I was like, pump your brakes, dude.

984
00:57:19,872 --> 00:57:23,472
Like, Well, I mean. And I don't complain about. You do not, obviously,

985
00:57:23,536 --> 00:57:26,320
because you are letting me sleep with other women. Yeah, that's the way I look.

986
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:30,160
And so you see, for us, that's okay for us to say. Other people get

987
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,888
really offended. Yeah. They're like, oh, don't. Don't use the. Don't say

988
00:57:33,944 --> 00:57:37,168
letting. Yeah. You're your own person. No, she's not letting

989
00:57:37,184 --> 00:57:39,712
you. You can do whatever you want. And I'm like, you know, I'm married to

990
00:57:39,736 --> 00:57:43,824
her. And really, it's our relationship. Our relationship. I'm giving her that

991
00:57:43,912 --> 00:57:47,440
over me. I'm letting her say that she

992
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,912
lets me. Yes. You know what I mean? Exactly. Because to me,

993
00:57:50,936 --> 00:57:53,952
it's the respect for you, it's the respect for our marriage and this.

994
00:57:53,976 --> 00:57:57,024
And I do it with you, you do it with me. That's our understanding.

995
00:57:57,072 --> 00:58:00,608
That's our understanding. Nobody can really tell us that we're doing

996
00:58:00,744 --> 00:58:03,856
what we're doing wrong because it works for us. It works for us.

997
00:58:03,928 --> 00:58:08,208
Yes, absolutely. It's not like I'm disrespecting you. That's our. That's our

998
00:58:08,264 --> 00:58:11,584
thing. Yeah. And so. Yeah. So I finally

999
00:58:11,632 --> 00:58:15,332
used the. Just let me process. I'm letting you sleep with

1000
00:58:15,356 --> 00:58:18,628
whomever you want, but let me just kind of deal with it. Like,

1001
00:58:18,684 --> 00:58:22,084
let me figure it out how I feel inside. Because each

1002
00:58:22,172 --> 00:58:25,572
person is different. Sure. Just because it's a blanket of you can

1003
00:58:25,596 --> 00:58:29,252
sleep with whomever you want. It's not a very big blanket.

1004
00:58:29,316 --> 00:58:32,852
I mean, in the. In the situation that you're so worried about, what happens

1005
00:58:32,916 --> 00:58:35,972
if, say, I'm. I have a. Friends with

1006
00:58:35,996 --> 00:58:39,454
benefits and we're semi regular,

1007
00:58:39,502 --> 00:58:42,158
maybe once every couple of weeks we play. Yeah.

1008
00:58:42,254 --> 00:58:46,062
And you're noticing that maybe they're wanting

1009
00:58:46,126 --> 00:58:49,422
more of my time at events or whatever, or they. Maybe they're getting a little

1010
00:58:49,446 --> 00:58:53,070
bit clingier. What's your reaction to that? I would talk

1011
00:58:53,110 --> 00:58:56,286
to them. Yeah. Yeah. I am. I am an open book.

1012
00:58:56,358 --> 00:58:59,950
Yeah, you're. You are my. You're my husband.

1013
00:59:00,030 --> 00:59:03,530
Yeah. You are mine, like, 100,

1014
00:59:04,110 --> 00:59:07,446
all of mine. Right. So no, if I saw that, I'd. Be like,

1015
00:59:07,518 --> 00:59:11,702
okay, but see, that clinginess, it exists

1016
00:59:11,846 --> 00:59:15,490
in people who haven't slept with us.

1017
00:59:16,350 --> 00:59:19,350
It's different, but it exists.

1018
00:59:19,430 --> 00:59:22,950
It exists. And I've seen it with you where people are very

1019
00:59:22,990 --> 00:59:25,798
clingy with you. It exists, and you haven't slept with that.

1020
00:59:25,854 --> 00:59:29,190
It is. It is very different. It is very different because you

1021
00:59:29,230 --> 00:59:32,874
have people who have slept with you, and they're

1022
00:59:33,002 --> 00:59:34,550
like a fly on.

1023
00:59:35,650 --> 00:59:38,970
Okay. I don't know who I am. Yeah. Am I the

1024
00:59:39,010 --> 00:59:42,410
fly or the. Oh, thanks, guys.

1025
00:59:42,490 --> 00:59:45,930
I'm the. So you know what I mean? Like, it's.

1026
00:59:46,010 --> 00:59:50,150
It's. Jesus. It's. Just call me the.

1027
00:59:50,930 --> 00:59:54,234
I feel like it's supposed to be. What's another good. I don't know. That's.

1028
00:59:54,282 --> 00:59:57,338
You could have said, like, white on rice. Oh, white on rice. Okay, so you're

1029
00:59:57,354 --> 00:59:59,350
the. You're the little rice and the little white.

1030
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:05,072
So it's like. So. Yeah, it's. It's a. It is very

1031
01:00:05,256 --> 01:00:08,976
different because you've had people that have slept with you

1032
01:00:09,048 --> 01:00:12,272
and are very clingy, and I'm like, okay, you need

1033
01:00:12,296 --> 01:00:15,136
to calm down. You've had people who are not.

1034
01:00:15,288 --> 01:00:18,592
Who have not slept with you and are

1035
01:00:18,616 --> 01:00:22,352
clingy, and I'm like, okay, whatever. It just depends,

1036
01:00:22,416 --> 01:00:25,712
because what's the difference. If they've slept with me

1037
01:00:25,736 --> 01:00:29,222
or not, if they're still clinging? I think it's the want. And I know that

1038
01:00:29,246 --> 01:00:32,198
you like that. You know what it is. It's the want.

1039
01:00:32,254 --> 01:00:35,942
It's. First of all, yes, I. I love the wand. I love to feel wanted.

1040
01:00:36,006 --> 01:00:39,190
I dig that feeling. Yeah. And it's not like I don't have enough at home.

1041
01:00:39,230 --> 01:00:42,790
I feel wanted from you. Yeah. But I did not feel

1042
01:00:42,830 --> 01:00:45,926
wanted my entire life before you. Yeah. And so it's

1043
01:00:45,958 --> 01:00:49,318
kind of nice to feel that. It's nice to feel. I don't

1044
01:00:49,334 --> 01:00:51,670
know. I don't know what it is. I just don't like attractive women that.

1045
01:00:51,710 --> 01:00:55,582
That. That want me. It's not just coming from my spam folder that

1046
01:00:55,606 --> 01:00:59,310
there are hot, attractive women waiting to meet me. There are actually some hot

1047
01:00:59,350 --> 01:01:01,918
Attractive women that are waiting to meet me, which is pretty cool.

1048
01:01:02,094 --> 01:01:05,102
But, you know, that's the whole thing about it,

1049
01:01:05,126 --> 01:01:09,374
is what is the difference? Clinginess is clinginess,

1050
01:01:09,502 --> 01:01:13,214
whether I've slept with them or not. Now, what I think is, I don't know,

1051
01:01:13,382 --> 01:01:17,130
is that you liked me, but then we had sex,

1052
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:21,460
and you were done. You were like, I'm marrying this man.

1053
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,032
Am I wrong on that? No, that was that. I. I literally

1054
01:01:25,096 --> 01:01:28,904
we. You. You were falling in love with me. We had sex.

1055
01:01:28,992 --> 01:01:31,816
Yes. And then you were like, this is it. This is the deal. Yeah.

1056
01:01:31,848 --> 01:01:35,240
Like, I was like, okay. And from that point on, you got very

1057
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,632
territorial. Oh, yeah. Well, I'm a very territorial person. You are.

1058
01:01:38,656 --> 01:01:42,104
But, like, from that. Extremely. But you were fine up until that point. Yeah.

1059
01:01:42,152 --> 01:01:44,792
The moment we had sex, and you were like, this is mine. All right.

1060
01:01:44,816 --> 01:01:46,792
Let me. Let me tell all these other guys that I don't want to talk

1061
01:01:46,816 --> 01:01:50,180
to them anymore. Exactly. And I rem. Moment when you called

1062
01:01:50,220 --> 01:01:53,604
me and you were like, oh, yeah, I. I've deleted all the contacts of guys

1063
01:01:53,652 --> 01:01:56,804
from my phone. And I remember sitting there going, I was driving, and I had

1064
01:01:56,812 --> 01:02:00,292
you on speakerphone, and I remember thinking, why? Yeah. Why did you do

1065
01:02:00,316 --> 01:02:03,748
that? Yeah, I was like. And you're like, because you're it. That's it, man.

1066
01:02:03,804 --> 01:02:06,516
And I'm looking at my contacts on my phone going,

1067
01:02:06,668 --> 01:02:09,684
wait, do I have to delete these now? Even though I didn't really have anybody

1068
01:02:09,732 --> 01:02:13,600
anyways, but, you know, my thing is,

1069
01:02:14,060 --> 01:02:17,182
is you can't. You're gonna have clinginess no matter

1070
01:02:17,206 --> 01:02:20,382
what. But I. I think that. You think that if I'm gonna have sex with

1071
01:02:20,406 --> 01:02:24,174
somebody, then not only are they going to be clingy, but they're gonna be really,

1072
01:02:24,262 --> 01:02:27,742
like, stalkerish. Yes. Because that's all

1073
01:02:27,766 --> 01:02:31,278
I know. That's all you know. But that has not happened since we've

1074
01:02:31,294 --> 01:02:34,622
been. It doesn't matter. That's all I know. So I. It's like

1075
01:02:34,646 --> 01:02:38,030
I said, you're gonna. It's dipping my toes in, like, even. The girl that

1076
01:02:38,070 --> 01:02:41,012
caused you this trauma that you have, because.

1077
01:02:41,166 --> 01:02:44,312
Yeah. You know, she was so clingy, and she wanted me to call her,

1078
01:02:44,336 --> 01:02:47,260
and she wanted to do this and that. Whatever. Yeah.

1079
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:51,512
That was not even a month's worth of time.

1080
01:02:51,616 --> 01:02:54,696
Yeah. And as soon. And I.

1081
01:02:54,768 --> 01:02:57,928
I'm the one that. So that's the one. That's the one thing about you that

1082
01:02:57,984 --> 01:03:01,704
you are. You do not like that

1083
01:03:01,792 --> 01:03:05,192
anyways. So I don't even have to worry about it, because you would Be the

1084
01:03:05,216 --> 01:03:09,314
one to be. Like, I'm not big into clinging. Yeah. And once somebody

1085
01:03:09,472 --> 01:03:12,910
is really clingy, you're. Like, even with friends,

1086
01:03:13,030 --> 01:03:16,462
like, even with basic friends, like, it doesn't have to be sexual at

1087
01:03:16,486 --> 01:03:20,046
all. Like, I have guy friends. It's just. Even with friends,

1088
01:03:20,198 --> 01:03:23,486
I don't care for the clinginess. Even with my kids. No,

1089
01:03:23,558 --> 01:03:26,910
I don't care for the clinginess. I'm like, you only let one. Give me some.

1090
01:03:26,950 --> 01:03:29,486
Give me some space. Well, I only let the one because I know he's.

1091
01:03:29,518 --> 01:03:32,958
He's. He's like me. He's having anxiety. He needs somebody.

1092
01:03:33,134 --> 01:03:36,856
But realistically, you're the only person in.

1093
01:03:36,928 --> 01:03:39,720
In my entire life and I've ever let. And that's what keep. What I.

1094
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,472
Yeah, that's what I keep going back to, is that he's not going to let

1095
01:03:42,496 --> 01:03:46,136
it cross the line that it used to be. Like, he will stop it.

1096
01:03:46,288 --> 01:03:49,560
1. You stop it because it makes you feel uncomfortable.

1097
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:53,380
Yes. Because. Because you know,

1098
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:57,016
you're either going to tell me or I'm gonna find out or I'm gonna,

1099
01:03:57,048 --> 01:04:00,440
you know, and you're like, it's gonna come. I can't lie to you.

1100
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:04,440
Yeah. I'm not a good liar. No. And I'm very bad about hiding.

1101
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,770
Yeah. And we share everything. Yeah. Like, we. We do.

1102
01:04:07,810 --> 01:04:10,858
And it's. It's accessible and it is what it is.

1103
01:04:10,914 --> 01:04:14,410
And it's. So. Yeah. So we're going to.

1104
01:04:14,530 --> 01:04:17,946
We're going to see. We're going to see what. We're going to see what Priscilla

1105
01:04:17,978 --> 01:04:21,162
thinks about this. And we're going to see how this. Yeah. Okay. Well, I mean,

1106
01:04:21,186 --> 01:04:24,714
I'm. I'm interesting. I'm. I'm excited. Yeah.

1107
01:04:24,762 --> 01:04:27,690
Well, you know, I can. I can tell you that this is the first time

1108
01:04:27,730 --> 01:04:30,906
that I've seen your reactions to this.

1109
01:04:30,978 --> 01:04:33,882
Yeah. And have felt positive about. Right.

1110
01:04:33,986 --> 01:04:37,476
And I don't feel. I'm. I'm a little nervous, but I don't

1111
01:04:37,508 --> 01:04:40,612
really feel that uncomfortable feeling of. I want to. Like,

1112
01:04:40,636 --> 01:04:42,756
the last time I told you, I was like, I want to cancel. Yeah.

1113
01:04:42,788 --> 01:04:45,892
I don't feel good about this. Yeah. Because I know you're.

1114
01:04:45,956 --> 01:04:49,220
You're struggling with this. Yeah. But no, you seem

1115
01:04:49,260 --> 01:04:52,804
to be okay. I am. Okay. If I wasn't okay, you would definitely

1116
01:04:52,852 --> 01:04:55,828
know. And. And I'm very. Because I'm very vocal. Definitely know.

1117
01:04:55,884 --> 01:04:59,508
Yeah. I'm very vocal with you. And as much as you don't like it,

1118
01:04:59,644 --> 01:05:03,048
we. We agree to disagree. We. We talk about

1119
01:05:03,104 --> 01:05:06,472
things. We look at things. And yeah, like you said, if I'm not

1120
01:05:06,496 --> 01:05:09,880
comfortable with it, we. We push things back just to

1121
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:13,816
see. Okay, well, let's see how she's going to react. So you having a conversation

1122
01:05:13,848 --> 01:05:16,952
with me is very helpful. And again, the way

1123
01:05:16,976 --> 01:05:20,712
the whole situation went down was amazing.

1124
01:05:20,856 --> 01:05:24,312
Okay, well, that's good to know. I mean, I guess the big takeaway here would

1125
01:05:24,336 --> 01:05:27,000
be that if anybody wants to sleep with me, they need to contact you first.

1126
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:30,722
Yes. Yes. Because I also have the choice of saying yay or

1127
01:05:30,746 --> 01:05:33,858
nay. This is true. This is true. Okay,

1128
01:05:33,954 --> 01:05:37,090
well, with that, we're gonna go ahead and wrap up this show because this

1129
01:05:37,130 --> 01:05:40,386
has been an interesting discussion, and what you guys just heard

1130
01:05:40,578 --> 01:05:44,498
is essentially a. A raw and

1131
01:05:44,554 --> 01:05:48,018
real conversation that we're. That we're. We've been having. I mean, this is. This is

1132
01:05:48,074 --> 01:05:51,682
really, really taking place, and we're kind of figuring this out. And I

1133
01:05:51,706 --> 01:05:55,124
want you to understand that it's okay to have these conversations

1134
01:05:55,172 --> 01:05:58,420
with your spouse. It's okay to feel defensive

1135
01:05:58,500 --> 01:06:01,812
sometimes. It's okay, like, all of your feelings are valid. But understand

1136
01:06:01,916 --> 01:06:05,556
that if you're not having the conversation, then it's

1137
01:06:05,588 --> 01:06:08,420
just not going to work. So I hope that everybody out there is having that

1138
01:06:08,460 --> 01:06:11,972
conversation. I hope everybody feels comfortable with your spouse to be able to

1139
01:06:11,996 --> 01:06:15,012
talk the way that we talk. And if you don't give it a shot,

1140
01:06:15,076 --> 01:06:18,308
it might work out better for you. I think it would. So with that,

1141
01:06:18,444 --> 01:06:21,540
we just want to say thank you. Thank you for tuning in. We hope

1142
01:06:21,580 --> 01:06:24,588
to see you guys next week.